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On August 28 2015 23:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:39 justanothertownie wrote:On August 28 2015 23:37 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:On August 28 2015 23:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town: VE, marv, JAT, rsoultin, Vivax
Town lean: KelsierSC, MrCC
Mafia lean: Moosy, Hopeless
Mafia: Trfel, Palmar
Everyone else is very null. Even Wave, which is really disconcerting. I feel like I'm probably wrong somewhere in my mafia reads, and if I'm wrong on more than one I'd probably put Wave as a mafia lean at this point for being so forgettable. You actually think Trfel could be scum with Palmar? It seems very unlikely to me that Palmar would associate this heavily with a mafia partner. lol, if i could think of anyone who has zero problems with massively tying himself to people (whether his team-mates or a townie) as mafia, Palmar would be one Not like this I don't think. i do i know precisely why you think what you think, i just don't agree there was a game not so long ago where i was mafia with Palmar and i got quite annoyed he boxed himself into a corner because of how he tied himself to certain people, it's very anti-intuitive. he'll say himself that he'll hard townread his scumbuddies for no reason and then use these hard townreads to attack other people, just ask him
Are you talking about an offside game?
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On August 28 2015 23:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2015 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I don't know what you want me to say Marv. Too many townreads, wrong about the only mafia read he has, it's a bad fucking post. meh, it's just not how i read it so he's wrong, so what? and he knows he has too many townreads. i think the explanations for why he came to some of them read ok. Do you have specific reads in there (other than the one on you) where you disagree with how he arrived at a certain conclusion? Over half the reads in there don't have any thought-process leading to them. If you have specific ones that you think are good that would be the place to start, but like, Kels: no reason given - Palmar/marv: no reason given - rsoultin: no reason given - VE: no reason given my question was more to do with the reasoning he gave on the ones that he did give i guess i'll retract a few townie points anyway as 2 people are saying they don't see it my way
To clarify: I don't think that post is that scummy. Only that it isn't exactly a towny revelation.
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I can only remember assassination and there he did tie himself to sandroba exactly like he did to me here but that's a totally different thing.
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On August 28 2015 23:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
The point is you should try and read him off something else, and off everything else Palmar looks like scum. are you seriously telling me you haven't seen towngames like this off him? can you show one of his mafiagames that looks like this one?
Assassination to a degree.
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On August 28 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote:
tell me exactly what this "everything" is that makes him look like mafia.
and if he's done the same a hundred times as town in games YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH HIM i will be quite unimpressed
I will let you continue this questioning first but you should really tell us afterwards why you are so sure that palmar is town.
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On August 28 2015 23:57 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On August 28 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote:
tell me exactly what this "everything" is that makes him look like mafia.
and if he's done the same a hundred times as town in games YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH HIM i will be quite unimpressed I will let you continue this questioning first but you should really tell us afterwards why you are so sure that palmar is town. my read on Palmar is irrelevant to this question
Yes, so?
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I think points 1-3) are not bad tbh.
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On August 29 2015 00:14 marvellosity wrote:
wow i'm actually gonna open his filter to see if i can substantiate my feelings. marv2pro
Very impressive.
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On August 29 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else. Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town). The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual. On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum? Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum. On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game. He claimed VT Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".
Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta. BRO JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant. JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me. (these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town) Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.
I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes). so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar. I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread. tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried
I might sheep your read and blame you if you are wrong but I don't think any of those posts is particularly towny.
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On August 29 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else. On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town). The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual. On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum? Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum. On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game. He claimed VT On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".
Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta. BRO JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant. JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me. (these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town) On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.
I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes). so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar. I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread. tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried I might sheep your read and blame you if you are wrong but I don't think any of those posts is particularly towny. you also don't have the excellent record for reading Palmar that i do, so if i think the posts are towny that means a hell of a lot more than what you think. just sayin 
Which would explain why I said I might shep you? What's your point?
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On August 29 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:On August 26 2015 19:07 Palmar wrote:
The JAT point is the most important one. JAT's opening is very different from everyone else. On August 26 2015 21:59 Palmar wrote:It was weaker than I remembered (but tbh, so is my marv townread. I just don't care all that much about calling a mafia or two town). The idea is I'm expecting him to be a newer player (I don't remember playing with him) so I'm applying the generic "he is going to be awkward as mafia". Both the posts he made are completely non-awkward and the tone is extremely relaxed/casual. On August 26 2015 11:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 26 2015 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
How many emotes is that?
uscum? Don't forget the punctuation rule where perfect punctuation = 100% scum. On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game. He claimed VT On August 26 2015 23:08 Palmar wrote:On August 26 2015 23:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like expecting me who's never played with JAT to just trust you all and go lynch him is you guys thinking wrong. If you guys are trying to make me vote for him, then you're going to have to come up with an actual case and points rather than just saying "trust me he is mafia because of what i remember, yeah".
Which is why I'm saying rsoultin saying that JAT is mafia read because he's clinging to one thing is a good point because it's not just based off of meta. BRO JAT is mafia because he's trying to build a case out of something that is irrelevant. JAT is mafia because his opening was awkward and sad JAT is mafia because he tried to dismiss me instead of argue me. (these are very much the sort of reasons Palmar uses more as town) On August 27 2015 02:14 Palmar wrote:
moosy seems to get people mixed up easily.
I think that is irrelevant and at best slightly townie (doesn't worry too much about mistakes). so these are all posts i think are quite a lot more likely to come from a town Palmar than a mafia Palmar. I think I debunked your 1&4 ok, which leaves 2&3 as the reasonable points. tbh I do agree with 2, unless Palmar has some new reasons of his own to be less suspicious of jat. re:3, i prodded palmar more than once on his townread on Trfel, and it came down to him deconstructing one of your only posts. i think it's certainly a read town-palmar can make, and certainly one that he'd overplay with bias in response to his jat scumread. tldr: there are several posts that make me think Palmar is town, his tunnel/approach to reads seems largely in line with his towngame, you may have something with the lynch-jat thing and it would be nice if he could say more smart stuff so i don't have to be worried I might sheep your read and blame you if you are wrong but I don't think any of those posts is particularly towny. you also don't have the excellent record for reading Palmar that i do, so if i think the posts are towny that means a hell of a lot more than what you think. just sayin Which would explain why I said I might shep you? What's your point? my "point" is, i don't know why you'd bother saying those posts don't look townie to you. who gives a fuck, you asked about how and why i was reading him and you've never really grasped how i do so, so what you think about them is largely irrelevant so why mention it
Ok, I will stop giving my opinion on things then. But don't lynch me for not contributing.
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On August 29 2015 01:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 29 2015 00:56 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2015 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE time to detunnel.
Also palmar I assert that Trfel is only allowed to be 95% town if I am. I disallow this. Well unfortunately that means I just can't trust your reads because you've proven them to be bad this game. Not really I didn't vote a townie yesterday, or at least I haven't been confirmed to vote a townie.
You DID vote a townie yesterday no matter how much of a saint you think you are. Maybe you didn't END UP on a townie. That remains to be seen.
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On August 29 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think ignoring palmar is going to be super productive actually.
Yes, my mood tells me to sheep marv on palmar, palmar on Trfel and ignore every word palmar posts because his posts are literally cancer.
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On August 29 2015 01:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 01:12 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think ignoring palmar is going to be super productive actually. Yes, my mood tells me to sheep marv on palmar, palmar on Trfel and ignore every word palmar posts because his posts are literally cancer. literally
:D
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On August 29 2015 01:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not sheeping palmar on Trfel but you're welcome to.
Yes, I have to admit that's a little selfish but it is win-win for me. If he is right - nice. If he is wrong he will have to apologize to me profusely later on.
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On August 29 2015 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
post-game bragging 100x more important than winning game, of course
^^^^^^
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Nope, deal isn't fair. You would be wrong on me AND Trfel. I would only have been wrong on Trfel.
Also I never called Trfel 100 % mafia.
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On August 29 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 01:21 Palmar wrote:
I'm not wrong on you if you're mafia.
I'm also not wrong on you if I never vote you at the day end and you're town. tldr: Palmar always right, everyone else always wrong
Who would have thought...
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Ok, so my plan is to lynch anyone outside of this list for now then:
Palmar
Marv
Moosy
Rsoultin
VE
Trfel
Sounds like a start.
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On August 29 2015 01:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 01:13 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2015 01:12 justanothertownie wrote:On August 29 2015 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think ignoring palmar is going to be super productive actually. Yes, my mood tells me to sheep marv on palmar, palmar on Trfel and ignore every word palmar posts because his posts are literally cancer. literally -_-
I knew you would like this :p
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