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On August 16 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, try to downplay it
you're trying to lynch someone who won't be lynched today while saying that you're not sure about chez' alignment ^^ hell, you won't even commit to saying that you think i'm more likely to be scum than chez despite voting me
you're laying it at rayn's feet, saying that he seems to think chez is town
and then you bring me up? out of the blue?
this will end with chez being lynched. you're also ignoring who rayn wants to lynch, but apparently his opinion is good enough for you to sheep off chez?
call it omgus all you want, but this push accomplishes nothing while looking busy and attacking a player who isn't "low-hanging fruit"
well, sweetie, i just attacked hf in gaiden lol >< don't assume i'm gonna sit here and pull a palmar and go "well anyone who attacks me must be town cause they'd be insane to do it as scum"
I'm not trying to downplay it, I think you're omgusing for shitty reasons.
I don't have a good read on Chez. Rayn, a person I value highly and am fairly certain is town, says he's pretty sure Chez isn't scum. He brings up Trfel, but I have a reason to think Trfel isn't mafia. I don't really have one for you.
This push accomplishes that more people give their opinion on you, and allows me to get a better read on you.
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On August 16 2015 00:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 00:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote:
It just another thing this game, RS isn't getting lynched today. Of we entertain RS being scum (which I'm pretty sure she isn't) we have to entertain the idea that rayn is scum with how he's jumping forgetting scum reads etc.
Truffle stopped playing and hasn't cared since the flip tbh, he even goes to question chez and afk. Though I think its more telling prp is doing jack shit today then trfel.
So maybe pro is scum chez is town and we have a sleeper mafia Why are you pretty sure that RSoul isn't scum? Also, which scumread did Rayn forget about? I'm not following. Also, why do you bring up Trfel and Prpl both as suspicious, but then end up just on Prp/? ? what do you think about truffle? you just ignored it when rayn brought it up ^^
I didn't. Read my filter.
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On August 16 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 00:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, try to downplay it
you're trying to lynch someone who won't be lynched today while saying that you're not sure about chez' alignment ^^ hell, you won't even commit to saying that you think i'm more likely to be scum than chez despite voting me
you're laying it at rayn's feet, saying that he seems to think chez is town
and then you bring me up? out of the blue?
this will end with chez being lynched. you're also ignoring who rayn wants to lynch, but apparently his opinion is good enough for you to sheep off chez?
call it omgus all you want, but this push accomplishes nothing while looking busy and attacking a player who isn't "low-hanging fruit"
well, sweetie, i just attacked hf in gaiden lol >< don't assume i'm gonna sit here and pull a palmar and go "well anyone who attacks me must be town cause they'd be insane to do it as scum" I'm not trying to downplay it, I think you're omgusing for shitty reasons. I don't have a good read on Chez. Rayn, a person I value highly and am fairly certain is town, says he's pretty sure Chez isn't scum. He brings up Trfel, but I have a reason to think Trfel isn't mafia. I don't really have one for you. This push accomplishes that more people give their opinion on you, and allows me to get a better read on you. lol >< sure and that reason is?
Apparently you think I'm mafia for trying to push you when you can't be lynched today, which is a shitty reason. You also think I'm scum for it being presumably shitty reasons, which is basically OMGUS.
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On August 16 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 00:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:On August 16 2015 00:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, try to downplay it
you're trying to lynch someone who won't be lynched today while saying that you're not sure about chez' alignment ^^ hell, you won't even commit to saying that you think i'm more likely to be scum than chez despite voting me
you're laying it at rayn's feet, saying that he seems to think chez is town
and then you bring me up? out of the blue?
this will end with chez being lynched. you're also ignoring who rayn wants to lynch, but apparently his opinion is good enough for you to sheep off chez?
call it omgus all you want, but this push accomplishes nothing while looking busy and attacking a player who isn't "low-hanging fruit"
well, sweetie, i just attacked hf in gaiden lol >< don't assume i'm gonna sit here and pull a palmar and go "well anyone who attacks me must be town cause they'd be insane to do it as scum" I'm not trying to downplay it, I think you're omgusing for shitty reasons. I don't have a good read on Chez. Rayn, a person I value highly and am fairly certain is town, says he's pretty sure Chez isn't scum. He brings up Trfel, but I have a reason to think Trfel isn't mafia. I don't really have one for you. This push accomplishes that more people give their opinion on you, and allows me to get a better read on you. lol >< sure and that reason is? Apparently you think I'm mafia for trying to push you when you can't be lynched today, which is a shitty reason. You also think I'm scum for it being presumably shitty reasons, which is basically OMGUS. eh, honestly if you really don't have much an opinion on chez it doesn't much matter. i still don't like it because it looks like you're just doing something to appear productive, but if you don't have a hard townread on chez then just throwing out suspicions that won't go anywhere is whatever
If you honestly think this is how I try to appear productive as mafia then our opinions on eachothers play this game are on par.
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On August 16 2015 00:18 Vivax wrote:
I don't think there is an iteration of a scum team without a strong scum player on it (or at least that potential), so I'm not reassured by people who only have been pushing people like chez/hope/decon (I think I called rso scum for that during the night). Prp might be there too given his weak start but better followup at night, remains to be seen what he does today.
I am pretty sure that ruxxar is town by now given the amount of his solemn posts. Sounds like a member of the catholic inquisition when he believes what he says. Pretty annoying thouh cause he's all hung up on Chez for not playing the way he wants.
So what do you think of her now? You had a (mild?) scumread on her before which you haven't updated at all since.
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On August 16 2015 00:29 Vivax wrote:
Btw I don't think I've ever seen Chez making these kind of posts (the long emotional ones). Artanis can you explain what made you vote chez most of all without telling me to go read the day and expecting to have the same opinion ( a la ruxxar).
The biggest reason was that I had reasons for everyone else to be town. Pretty much PoE.
Insert Rsoultin questioning how that's compatible with the suspicion I had on her
I actually scrolled through her filter in between and found a few analyses that I was okay with, but then as the day progressed that stopped happening and I felt like there was no real drive anymore.
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On August 16 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:Else I have trouble reading through her filter, whenever I walk through it every smilie thingy in a post is a lego brick I step on. Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 00:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:29 Vivax wrote:
Btw I don't think I've ever seen Chez making these kind of posts (the long emotional ones). Artanis can you explain what made you vote chez most of all without telling me to go read the day and expecting to have the same opinion ( a la ruxxar). The biggest reason was that I had reasons for everyone else to be town. Pretty much PoE. Insert Rsoultin questioning how that's compatible with the suspicion I had on herI actually scrolled through her filter in between and found a few analyses that I was okay with, but then as the day progressed that stopped happening and I felt like there was no real drive anymore. So you're certain enough that everyone besides Chez and rso is town? How are you certain with Palmar? I'm not.
Not certain enough by any means. I still think Trfel Prpl and Palmar can be scum too, maaybe Damdred. I'm quite sure on Rayn/You/Ruxx though.
Palmar solves itself since he basically claimed blue. Either he's going to get shot or he dies at lylo.
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On August 16 2015 00:39 rsoultin wrote:
he has shit reasons like
hopeless talked to truffle
therefore truffle is town
why is prp town, artanis?
Call it shit all you like, but I do think it holds some water.
I don't think he's capable of the activity stint he did when he was being suspected a lot as mafia, but part of it was connection to Chez which I've brought up before.
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On August 16 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
artie gives the reads i do
but i'm mafia
okay artie lol ><
it holds no water whatsoever. the bit on prp is decent, though. it's what had me waffling on him
I find it ironic that you say that my observation holds no water whilst claiming I should read you as town because your reads overlap with mine. You do realize that's not relevant at all right?
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On August 16 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 00:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
artie gives the reads i do
but i'm mafia
okay artie lol ><
it holds no water whatsoever. the bit on prp is decent, though. it's what had me waffling on him I find it ironic that you say that my observation holds no water whilst claiming I should read you as town because your reads overlap with mine. You do realize that's not relevant at all right? if you're going to claim that i've had no impact on the game then come in with the same reads (kind of because for whatever reason you seem to think that you have reasons to townread other people you're suspicious of but not me lol ><)...where is your head actually at? if this is a true, good way to evaluate a player, you're scum by your own heuristic or are you claiming that you've had more of an impact on this game somehow? btw this has nothing to do with your truffle townread being weak as shit. if there's a reason to townread truffle (and there is), it's not that. it's because his town this game has been pretty light and he's not good at replicating that as scum but what you're focusing in on is hopeless talked to him? lol >< do you even realize how fake that sounds?
I was the driving force behind the Deconduo lynch, however misguided it might've been. I've been more influential in the game. That we have similar reads doesn't matter shit; it matters how much we've changed the course of the game, and I'm certain I've done that a lot more than you have.
Anyway, I went through Carnaval a bit and I think I picked something up. I'm not interested in pursuing you right now.
As for Trfel, I was pointing out something that was on the top of my head and something I had noticed that I figured other people wouldn't. You can keep repeating that it doesn't mean anything, that's okay. You may have that opinion.
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On August 16 2015 01:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 01:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:On August 16 2015 00:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
artie gives the reads i do
but i'm mafia
okay artie lol ><
it holds no water whatsoever. the bit on prp is decent, though. it's what had me waffling on him I find it ironic that you say that my observation holds no water whilst claiming I should read you as town because your reads overlap with mine. You do realize that's not relevant at all right? if you're going to claim that i've had no impact on the game then come in with the same reads (kind of because for whatever reason you seem to think that you have reasons to townread other people you're suspicious of but not me lol ><)...where is your head actually at? if this is a true, good way to evaluate a player, you're scum by your own heuristic or are you claiming that you've had more of an impact on this game somehow? btw this has nothing to do with your truffle townread being weak as shit. if there's a reason to townread truffle (and there is), it's not that. it's because his town this game has been pretty light and he's not good at replicating that as scum but what you're focusing in on is hopeless talked to him? lol >< do you even realize how fake that sounds? I was the driving force behind the Deconduo lynch, however misguided it might've been. I've been more influential in the game. That we have similar reads doesn't matter shit; it matters how much we've changed the course of the game, and I'm certain I've done that a lot more than you have. Anyway, I went through Carnaval a bit and I think I picked something up. I'm not interested in pursuing you right now. As for Trfel, I was pointing out something that was on the top of my head and something I had noticed that I figured other people wouldn't. You can keep repeating that it doesn't mean anything, that's okay. You may have that opinion. lol your argument is that i parked on condor when it looked like hopeless was an inevitable lynch and your rally behind the spreadsheet argument that ultimately saved scum!hopeless was a bigger impact on the game and that makes you town? you're great at this artie yes, you're right ^^ i didn't push hard to save my scum buddy while not taking credit for his lynch. must be scum
The strawman is strong in this one.
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On August 16 2015 01:11 rsoultin wrote:
>> what you found i actually lead lynches and have an impact on the game as scum, what? what?
-rolls eyes-
didn't i say it was obvious to anyone who has read those games that your argument was weak as shit? though kudos for bothering to actually look the game up -golf claps-
who are we lynching artanis?
That's not exactly what I found, but we'll see if it comes up.
I'll tell you when I get there.
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On August 16 2015 01:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 01:08 rsoultin wrote:On August 16 2015 01:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 01:01 rsoultin wrote:On August 16 2015 00:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
artie gives the reads i do
but i'm mafia
okay artie lol ><
it holds no water whatsoever. the bit on prp is decent, though. it's what had me waffling on him I find it ironic that you say that my observation holds no water whilst claiming I should read you as town because your reads overlap with mine. You do realize that's not relevant at all right? if you're going to claim that i've had no impact on the game then come in with the same reads (kind of because for whatever reason you seem to think that you have reasons to townread other people you're suspicious of but not me lol ><)...where is your head actually at? if this is a true, good way to evaluate a player, you're scum by your own heuristic or are you claiming that you've had more of an impact on this game somehow? btw this has nothing to do with your truffle townread being weak as shit. if there's a reason to townread truffle (and there is), it's not that. it's because his town this game has been pretty light and he's not good at replicating that as scum but what you're focusing in on is hopeless talked to him? lol >< do you even realize how fake that sounds? I was the driving force behind the Deconduo lynch, however misguided it might've been. I've been more influential in the game. That we have similar reads doesn't matter shit; it matters how much we've changed the course of the game, and I'm certain I've done that a lot more than you have. Anyway, I went through Carnaval a bit and I think I picked something up. I'm not interested in pursuing you right now. As for Trfel, I was pointing out something that was on the top of my head and something I had noticed that I figured other people wouldn't. You can keep repeating that it doesn't mean anything, that's okay. You may have that opinion. lol your argument is that i parked on condor when it looked like hopeless was an inevitable lynch and your rally behind the spreadsheet argument that ultimately saved scum!hopeless was a bigger impact on the game and that makes you town? you're great at this artie yes, you're right ^^ i didn't push hard to save my scum buddy while not taking credit for his lynch. must be scum The strawman is strong in this one. lol what's a strawman? (real question, i don't know what that means o.0)
I'm sure you have a functioning search engine.
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On August 16 2015 01:26 ruXxar wrote:
I'm confident there's minimum 1 more scum in this group:
Chez
Trfel
Prpl
Also possibly 1 scum amongst these 2.
Rsoultin
Artanis
So you consider both Damdred and Palmar confirmed town?
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Like Rayn case. Will sheep.
Prp's ninja vote is worrying but seems stupid to do as either alignment.
##Unvote
##Vote Trfel
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On August 16 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 02:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Rayn case. Will sheep.
Prp's ninja vote is worrying but seems stupid to do as either alignment.
##Unvote
##Vote Trfel so rayn's case is better than hopeless spoke to truffle? @.@ what about it makes you want to switch?
Like I said, I think it holds some water and makes it less likely for him to be mafia, but Rayn's case is good enough to easily overcome that. Especially the part about Trfel 'forgetting'/downgrading his scumread on RuXx in his reads post when he'd been on him before is damning. I don't think town Trfel acts like that.
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On August 16 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote:
This whole thing just makes me tear my hair out.
Like 100% what Vivax has said speaks ot me about rayn, hes somewhat forgotten his ruxxar scum read during the night phase. I mean I think rux is town, but his play was really similar to last game, and the d1 vote switchto hopeless and rayn never considering rux super bussing or anything past n1 is just weird in a sense. I think hes town still at this point but it just bugs me a bit.
Because Prp is more prone to just not do shit as mafia even when he needs to, which is alignment indicative.
However truffle being afk isnt' as alignment indicative.
Rayn said I think during the night that He wasn't going to bother lynching Ruxx anymore and just blame me if RuXx turned out scum. Later, when Hopeless flipped mafia he decided RuXx is town for being on the right wagon. He didn't forget about it.
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Speaking of soup, voice mafia tonight?
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On August 16 2015 02:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't care ruxxar.
He says stuff i don't believe is possible for him to say if he is town. Chezinu is way worse in this department. The fact that prpl hesitated to vote for chezinu but jumped straight on the trfel train makes me more suspicious of him. The only two people I will lynch today is chez and purple.
People hesitated to vote for chezinu?
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Okay, I'm happy to lynch Trfel. He's too certain of himself, and too abrasive for Trfel standards.
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