[T][I]OT vs The Mods Mafia

On June 16 2015 02:25 GlowingBear wrote:


Me too

I won't let rsoultin alone in a room with that man

On June 16 2015 06:10 rsoultin wrote:


lol i'm not sure which part of that scenario you're more concerned about xP

On June 17 2015 03:23 MoonBear wrote:
This thread feels really hostile for some reason...

On June 18 2015 07:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Can I /in this?

I think I can right?

On July 02 2015 06:04 plotspot wrote:
/in

On July 02 2015 10:20 WaveofShadow wrote:

You are and always will be second to the great MemeWolf.
Also I want mayor.
I won't fail or anything.
I swurr.

On July 02 2015 10:51 Cixah wrote:
Soniv who are you and why aren't you voting for asmo.

On July 02 2015 10:56 Holyflare wrote:
Kill soniv with fire!

On July 02 2015 10:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
come on help a brother out im trying to meme over here
somebody just has to do something awesome for me to meme to

you work on that, ill work on lowering my standards adequatly

On July 02 2015 11:22 Cixah wrote:
Can't give power to people who don't want it, won't give power to people who do want it. This is worse than anything else we could have discussed in our d1.

All euros read scum to me right now. Soniv is town, wave might be town. Let's party friends we've got so much more time to play games today!

Let use hear from so euros tho. Dandel. What is your favorite type of shower and is it the one you use to wipe all the scum off your face?

On July 02 2015 11:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:


You're smart. Power is scary.

I don't want no puppet power that could be run by better players. Anyone voting for me knows I barely played in my other game and will be ineffective. Thus, pimping me is an early scum move.

And Dandel pointing out when you're a troll isn't defensive, it's just mentioning a fact.

On July 02 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:


I was expecting people asking me why I wasn't voting asmodeus. I'm disappointed.

The quoted is the reason why. I know that Bill Murray, as scum, pushes his scum agenda very hard. I wouldn't be surprised if mafia Bill is voting scum partner asmodeus here. His reason to vote is weak (asmodeus wants to be mayor?).

That said, I am not risking voting him for this sole reason.

On July 02 2015 11:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:


You're smart. Power is scary.

I don't want no puppet power that could be run by better players. Anyone voting for me knows I barely played in my other game and will be ineffective. Thus, pimping me is an early scum move.

On July 02 2015 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
so you're trying to.....moderate me?
how townie of you

On July 02 2015 22:07 WaveofShadow wrote:

How so? (Aside from generic 'stuff is weird')
Also I think I'm giving soniv a free pass this game

On July 02 2015 21:45 plotspot wrote:
Hi guys, yesterday I had duty at the lighthouse and I was enjoying the view when suddenly... AHHHH

Your role in this game:+ Show Spoiler +

Tragic story. Still have the headache, would rather not go there. So let's start the game.

Ok I notice a lot of people like mordek, asmodeus, jcarlsoniv, Cixah, (Dandel Ion) I've never seen before, but BM, GB or HF seem familiar with you. So what's the story? Do you guys know each other from playing mafia together before?

On July 02 2015 23:14 plotspot wrote:


uhuh, so you guys were actually LoL players or interestees, who over time frequented this off-topic thread:
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/shopkeepers-inn/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=5160
From just a few pages I already see you, Lord Tolkien, Comadose, Cixah, asmodeus, Dandel Ion, WoS and HF. The closure of this thread caused some debate with the mods, right? And then yamato thought this was a nice theme to have an mafia game on? So are there any mods over there playing here (I guess not)? ... ok I also spotted yamato and mordek.. in the Lounge thread.
So that leaves GB, VE, BM and me basically as the only one not frequenting the liquidlegends forum?

About my roleclaim, I think you know what it means.^^

11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.

On July 02 2015 23:26 plotspot wrote:
It's like the only role you're allowed to recite with impunity. Can't have it all in the specific rules book. Would be too cluttering.

On July 03 2015 00:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
As no one trusts the obvious townie, I could settle for you then.

On July 03 2015 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote:

I like this.
Doesn't mean you're not scum, but still.

Too much focus on roleclaiming and mayor shit.
Guess what?
Mayor elections don't win us the game ladies.

On July 02 2015 23:26 plotspot wrote:
It's like the only role you're allowed to recite with impunity. Can't have it all in the specific rules book. Would be too cluttering.

On July 03 2015 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your turn.
All I see from you is speculation and 'I don't trust this guy.' How about something a little more concrete?
If you don't happen to think anyone is scum yet, perhaps you might hav an idea as to who is town?

Let's chat.

On July 02 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
O HAI

I'M town

On July 02 2015 11:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Choosing mayors is boring

I want to lunch people

On July 03 2015 02:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Anyways, I've decided. I'm putting Wave in OT Mafia, Episode I, category for now until he sobers up.

Also Soniv, I would probably peg you town, but you're questioning my obvious townie status. How dare you question my inane, jocular statement.

As for GB, I've played a few mafia games with him, and I'm fairly certain I know how to read him.

On July 03 2015 03:48 GlowingBear wrote:


It's not a leap to assume BM could be Mafia and that when he is Mafia he pushes the scummiest agenda possible. He doesn't worry to look townie. In a Mafia game he played together, he publicly nuked thread's top townie. That's why if BM is Mafia, I can easily see him voting for his partner out of nowhere.

Your assumption that Asmodeus is more likely to be scum than BM doesn't make sense to me. And why BM is starting a scum agenda IF Asmodeus is town? It's actually the opposite.

I have no people I want to vote for mayor yet. I'm eliminating possible scums first. I'll decide about it later. For now, I'm not voting Cixah, Asmodeus or BM.

On July 03 2015 03:55 ComaDose wrote:

I think he is just drunk right now. But he is consistent.

On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
sorry for the fluffy post that was my first post and i'm really new to mafia but yes i did not support asmo as mayor

I legit have no history to read into in mafia and it seems like a lot of people know how others play from the past so i feel at a disadvantage and dont want to put myself out there too much making hard claims

who do i support for mayor... hmm... well LT, mordek, cixah, and asmo seem inclined to vote for plot. I dont know how common it is for someone to fake a claim but if he is on the level then a "neutral" mayor would probably lynch the most popular pick at the time in the thread which seems probably good.

I agree that soniv and wave seem to be doing good town work and maybe that would be an okay place to bestow the mayor mantle as well. might even stretch to include LT in this group because i feel like his statement about HF was more for bait than an actual clumsy scum move.

cixah was a proponent for asmo and only said plot would be an okay choice too but a few people are leaning toward thinking he is scum: soniv, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, and wave seemed pretty set on voting for someone who would lynch him

On July 03 2015 06:00 Holyflare wrote:
vote me or dandel

On July 03 2015 23:13 ComaDose wrote:

I have always been, and will continue to be, an anti-mod activist + Show Spoiler +


The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

On July 04 2015 01:35 GlowingBear wrote:


I explained why I think Wave is most likely town

On July 04 2015 02:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I said it was interesting, not plausible or believable.

On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.

Still,


I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.

Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.

Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.


You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).


pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.

This is the section which I really don't like.



Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.

Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.

My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else

On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10

On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.

On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.

On July 04 2015 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:

I will vote you if you lynch 6ah then.

On July 04 2015 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:

Wat
Well then who do you want to lynch? I thought it was 6ah up until now

On July 04 2015 06:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
what the fuck is this roll-over-and-die-day or what

at least get salty

On July 04 2015 06:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
reading through his filter, he's been on cruise control this entire game. Being too nice and all, and his opinions are bland. Oh and trying to pick a fight with a bear, despite the obvious townie things he's doing.

Like being the first one to go against the plotspot for mayor train which I was leading.

On July 04 2015 06:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:

i may be relying on meta

On July 04 2015 06:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
also yeah i wasnt really planning on yoloing soniv (if i was i wouldnt have said anything about it) i was just pissed off by his post

but instead of giving me a reaction he decides to have his balls cut off
i cant work with that shit

On July 04 2015 08:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
who knows!
it'll be a surprise
or maybe not
the real surprise is if there will be a surprise

On July 03 2015 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Eh, at this point I wouldn't vote dandel. He likes to troll as scum and I don't see a reason to take a chance on him.

On July 04 2015 09:38 WaveofShadow wrote:

He likes to troll as scum but he's not more actual work. I don't THINK he's scum at this point. You'll not I'm not voting for him though, but I'm not going attempt to push anyone else through. I'm not invested in a yolo lynch as I'd rather it be 6ah but it doesn't seem as though I have a choice.

On July 05 2015 22:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
So...who would actually be afraid of me considering most people think I'm shit after last game?

Probably people who weren't in the last game

I'd go GB
Maybe even over 6ah today

On July 04 2015 01:33 GlowingBear wrote:


I don't care. I think you're town and you've got a scumread on Cixah too

On July 06 2015 00:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
I have reason to doubt LT and 6ah are scum now actually.
They could still be but right now GB is number 1

And I could totally see why a town GB would vote me over you BTW, to me its more that he didn't take an obvious explanation for it.

Why do you think LT is scum

On July 03 2015 00:50 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Uh. Obviously? I am the towniest town that has ever townied this town. And anyone who doesn't townread me is the scummiest scum that has ever scummed this mafia game.

On July 03 2015 02:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:

You, because you're questioning obvious town.

In all seriousness, we're just over half a day into the game. If you have strong reads, I'm calling bullshit, because there's nothing to base any lynch accusation on right now besides lulz and hunches.

[B]On July 04 2015 09:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Probably 6ah or asmo.

Maybe holyflare because he's still memeing after his other mafia game ended.

On July 06 2015 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:
tolkien it's not 100% he died saving someone more like 15%

On July 06 2015 02:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:



while I agree it's not necessarily 100%, it seems odd that they'd shoot at mordek, no?

unless it's just lurker crapshoot I guess

On July 06 2015 02:47 ComaDose wrote:
so a martyr jumps in front of someone to die instead of them?
rip mordek the hero we needed.

On July 06 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah you're defs scum. I remember this flailing.
##vote: GlowingBear

On July 06 2015 03:31 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm going to assume you didn't catch up yet GlowingBear but pls. I already listed all the reasons why mordek probably saved wave.

I'm pretty much sold on this as well, unless you give me something better to go on.

For now.

#vote: GlowingBear

On July 06 2015 03:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
if omgus is the best you have GB, my meta read is pretty clear here.

On July 06 2015 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oops I meant to answer LT, not Soniv

I didn't have a meta read on him, I thought he was town, but I don't think town wave would be this stupid to rely on DOUBLE wifom to forge a scumread on me. It's horrid.

On July 06 2015 03:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I'm still loling over the fact you

1) doubt obvious town
2) think I would be scumteam with GB given our interactions

On July 06 2015 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Somebody find me a link to OT mafia I
I have to look into Soniv's play. He just feels so distant.

His points on Tolk ring true though, and I can't determine how I feel on his sudden dropping of the arrogance towards me now that he realizes I'm likely on the right track.

On July 06 2015 11:05 AsmodeusXI wrote:
This bandwagon seems fairly unstoppable, so I'm in too.

Frankly, Wave's calls were my favorite beforehand and they'll continue to be until I see something weird.

##vote: GlowingBear

On July 06 2015 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
His points on Tolk ring true though, and I can't determine how I feel on his sudden dropping of the arrogance towards me now that he realizes I'm likely on the right track.

On July 06 2015 11:15 WaveofShadow wrote:

Where did I call you arrogant?
No I just can't remember if the way you're playing right now is always how you play.
Link me that game plz

On July 06 2015 11:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not noticing anything abnormal about soniv's play. At least, it seems about standard for what I'm used to.

On July 06 2015 11:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Change of plans.

#Vote: Cixah

On July 06 2015 11:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not noticing anything abnormal about soniv's play. At least, it seems about standard for what I'm used to.

On July 06 2015 22:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wonder why you keep asking people about LT when you sounded nowhere near as certain as you did/do about GB. I think your point about LT just accepting plot's claim is strong, but it seems pretty reliant on GB flipping mafia, or at least that's the way it looks to me.

On July 06 2015 22:20 VisceraEyes wrote:

Like, I get that, but you're voting for GB and you seem more sure he's maf, but it's like you don't care to push him. Like you're trying to switch to LT, though your read on him kinda hinges on GB's flip.

On July 06 2015 22:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah it didn't look like you were actually TRYING to switch, that's just the impression I get when I read you asking Wave and I repeatedly about LT.

What do you think about Cixah?

On July 06 2015 23:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Really? We're not lynching GB today?
K.

On July 06 2015 10:35 Cixah wrote:
##vote glowing bear

This still doesn't sit right and feels weird. Glowingbears defense reads flimsy to me. They're are lots of alagations against him but he flips on the same paragraph specifically leaving things brought against him open. I will vote like this for now and hope to be surprised tomorrow.

On July 07 2015 02:46 Cixah wrote:
I would really like to lynch GB today. But you guys already know that. I'm going to be leaving for work in the next 30 minutes or so, but probably won't be able to do much other than read until deadline . Hopefully we play correctly and lynch GB here.

On July 07 2015 02:51 Cixah wrote:


Its fine.

Its fairly obvious I don't get how this game is played. Things that work in person aren't working here.

Either that or everyone else is just playing awful and troll. I can't tell. I do know that when I flip Town all of you will be very sad.

On July 07 2015 04:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry joebro, not switching to cixah today. I'll reevaluate him tomorrow.

In other news I learned a new combo I wanna try on you later
:D

On July 07 2015 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote:

What is so egregious about 6ah's most recent posts as compared to his earlier ones?

(And I don't expect to beat you, or even get the combo to work particularly often. It's got a frame-perfect link in it but if I get it right I have the bonus of getting you mad 'cuz kitty :D :D

Also I think R. fortune is released tomorrow. I should work on her.)

On July 07 2015 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

Well I mean I would do the same thing, but I'd be more likely to do it as town to save myself.
As scum I'd be concerned with how shitty that looks, and he doesn't appear to be concerned with it, no?

On July 07 2015 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:

This guy has looked worse to me as the game has gone on.

Soniv I need to know I can trust you. I actually need to look into OT mafia I.

On July 07 2015 05:47 WaveofShadow wrote:

Do you have reason not to believe this?
Last time you were right and I was wrong, so go ahead and evaluate.

On July 07 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

This is how newbie type games tend to go.
Blues get outed right away or killed and you're forced to play the game vanilla. Last game I played we destroyed town for just this reason.

You don't get to waffle here.
You unvoted, so where is your vote going? Do you believe CIxah? Does GB have a point with his accusations?

On July 07 2015 05:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

Go ahead and evaluate, but you'll excuse me if I read this post and saw you just making excuses.

On July 03 2015 04:58 Cixah wrote:
Pointing a lynch at me isn't a good idea. I get some people don't like my posting so far, but how about this what would you like me to elaborate on? Soniv is still town in his posts even if he doesn't like me. Soon i will get senpai to notice me.

On July 03 2015 06:57 Cixah wrote:
Forum mafia is a silly game, no way to catch peoples emotions. Lynching me will hurt town when I flip. 100% mislynch but go ahead, this game is already a shitstorm.

Still haven't heard anything non-meme related from HF this game. You ain't trump play games bro.

On July 07 2015 05:58 plotspot wrote:
I believe this claim, it looks like it is written out because he was provoked and was not a premeditated action prepared in the scum QT. Furthermore scum would probably claimed way later. Cixah feels like standing alone and not have mental support from scum mates.

On July 07 2015 06:12 plotspot wrote:
VE I know you're scum, you guys have settled on Cixah from the getgo, because he is too nice as town to fabricate scumreads and always has a flair of uncertainty and irresolution in everything he does.

On July 02 2015 21:45 plotspot wrote:
Hi guys, yesterday I had duty at the lighthouse and I was enjoying the view when suddenly... AHHHH

Your role in this game:+ Show Spoiler +

Tragic story. Still have the headache, would rather not go there. So let's start the game.

Ok I notice a lot of people like mordek, asmodeus, jcarlsoniv, Cixah, (Dandel Ion) I've never seen before, but BM, GB or HF seem familiar with you. So what's the story? Do you guys know each other from playing mafia together before?

On July 07 2015 06:57 yamato77 wrote:
D2 Votecount

GlowingBear(5): Wave, LT, Bill, Cixah, Plotspot
Cixah(2): Soniv, GlowingBear
Bill Murray(1): Asmo
Plotspot(1): VE

Currently GlowingBear is set to be lynched with with 5 votes. If there are any mistakes in the votecount, please notify the hosts immediately. Please vote with the correct format or your vote may not be counted. Voting is mandatory.

Day ends in .

On July 07 2015 07:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
...my vote is on 6ah.

On July 07 2015 07:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:


If Mordek was protecting Cixah, he would probably post posted something vaguely related to Texas.

On July 07 2015 08:51 Cixah wrote:
Last time we did this we moved off scum and on to town. Can we not do this again?

On July 07 2015 08:54 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Soniv, I also feel weird with your relative lack of posts. I get that I'm pot-calling-kettle-black here, but you have a history of dense participation (at least from the only other game I was in) as town. That reads a little strange to me. Not "confirmed scummo" strange, but still.

On July 07 2015 09:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
WHERE IS THE VOTECOUNT shitlord mods.

On July 07 2015 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:
God I AM THE COP AND I HAVE A RED CHECK ON CIXAH, THAT'S WHY I DON'T BELIEVE HIS CLAIM

On July 07 2015 09:43 Cixah wrote:


The absolute worst post I've seen in the thread. You can't red check me because I'm already town tracker.

On July 07 2015 09:46 plotspot wrote:
no no no, no way we got this GB cop vs tracker claim again.^^

On July 07 2015 09:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
We're doing this NOW, everyone.

On July 07 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:
I AM TOWN

I'M THE COP AND I'VE GOT A RED CHECK ON HIM

I'VE CRUMBED THIS ALL OVER MY FILTER

PLEASE UNVOTE ME AND VOTE CIXAH

On July 07 2015 10:27 Cixah wrote:



This post basically confirms bill as town.

On July 07 2015 11:02 Cixah wrote:


Wouldn't that just confirm him mafia in this case then?

On July 07 2015 22:54 ComaDose wrote:
soniv why did you leave your vote on plotspot even though it wouldnt matter and you were there at the end? do you still think he is a mod?

On July 07 2015 07:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
One thing I will ask you, Wave - do your actions this day not feel reminiscent of you tunneling me last OT mafia? But this time around it feels like you're almost entirely basing your tunnel on meta (although it's possible that it's because I'm not on the receiving end of it this time, so it looks different). I want to be able to trust your judgement, but I need you to answer this.

On July 08 2015 00:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
wat

no, it was most certainly me

On July 08 2015 02:18 plotspot wrote:
I just wonder why HF never got the "TLLOLOTGD Poster" flavor that yamato posted for Wave when he died. Ok it could be because Onegu posted about HF's death, but still, if any vanilla "TLLOLOTGD Poster" got the same flavour with a picture of Jinx, then it could be HF was modkilled because he posted his Jinx picture in the thread. It was just coincidence then that Dandel also picked HF.
"HF the Vanilla Townie got kicked out of the thread", is that all? Notice the word "kicked". Also, no flavor unlike every other person who died? Ok; maybe he was not modkilled, but I think there is a reason why the host don't post HF's flavor, probably because the full extent would include the picture he posted as his first post?

On July 07 2015 10:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
The very thought that GB flipping scum implicates me is hilarious.

On July 08 2015 08:00 Bill Murray wrote:

yeah but i was already confirmed town

just people dont know how to read me

On July 08 2015 20:06 plotspot wrote:


Actually, if you don't believe my claim, there's no way I'm scum here. Cixah has the most suspicions about him from everyone else. No one dared townreading him. If I was scum with GB, I'd surely done everything possible to cement Cixah's status as scum. Like, how difficult is it to cast down suspicion on his claim or his general play if I just parrot GB?

But I didn't. I went the way of high resistance and hard-defend and ride with him when you guys were still wondering what is what. Why, pray tell, would I do that as scum? I voted GB in a phase where everything was still undecided and stayed with it to the end . If I was scum with GB, why would I consolidate with Cixah at a critical juncture?

On July 08 2015 23:59 plotspot wrote:
Soniv I think you're in some serious tunnel or confirmation bias if you think I am scum when I don't even know whether I am town or scum.

On July 09 2015 01:21 plotspot wrote:


Like do you really believe I planned it all out up to this point? So that I copy-pasted this defense (which could be expressed in half the words) and be done with it? I do everything can I to get GB lynched, so that I am here telling you all this, instead of getting the lynch on Cixah and go "oh I thought he was scum, awww that's such a pity, but his tracker claim was so unbelievable, you guys agreed, right?"

Like please please pretty please, consider some scum outside of me or LT, that would really help.

On July 07 2015 05:58 plotspot wrote:
I believe this claim, it looks like it is written out because he was provoked and was not a premeditated action prepared in the scum QT. Furthermore scum would probably claimed way later. Cixah feels like standing alone and not have mental support from scum mates.

On July 09 2015 03:31 plotspot wrote:


here soniv, just do it like this. Imagine me, GB and another person sitting in the scum QT, discussing the events before and after Cixah's claim. I'm sure you're in the fire for it now. Give it your best, imagine the craziest scenario. You can do it. Creativity makes happy.^^

On July 09 2015 02:52 plotspot wrote:
And no I'm not giving out my scumread at this time, same reason I don't give out my townreads besides you two.

On July 09 2015 19:37 plotspot wrote:
Guys, it's true, I haven't checked out my role pm. That's all there is to it. Why do you pay attention to the formatting and stuff? The italic stuff is the important ones. That's the reason why I could post it without getting modkilled, because it's not the real pm.

Calm down, we still got enough time left. Let's start with my townreads. ComaDose and BM. Not sure why the irony wasn't apparent? Maybe forum posts are really bad for it. My apologies.

On July 09 2015 20:04 plotspot wrote:
And why do I do that? Because then people can't scumread me, and I can just try my best and find scum. The downside is of course as the days go on, people want to know what I am and where I am at. So probably one day when they ran out of ideas, they will probably go for the statistical chance of me being mafia and grab it. They just need to find enough paranoid townies who support it and bam there you go.

If I was mafia in this, then it's actually better you find my remaining partner, and when you see no NK, there you go. Game won. If I was mafia you're actually playing with an additional townie, who really tries his best to find scum here. And I did read Cixah correctly and I did read GB correctly. But ok, if the confusion is more than you can handle, I can understand why you would want me out. I always thought people who play this game likes to be confused and surprised.^^

On July 10 2015 06:54 Cixah wrote:
Holyflare would be proud friends.

However we have scum to lynch and I don't think its plot. Soniv, talk to me about dandel please.

On July 10 2015 08:23 Bill Murray wrote:
jcarlson has surprised me this game

On July 10 2015 11:07 Cixah wrote:
The thing is, going back and reading where you guys start the end of d2 stuff his story makes a lot if genuine sense. Even to the point where soniv also trys to argue with my discrediting of gbs claim.

On July 07 2015 09:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:


oh what the hell guys come on



the fuck does this even mean?

On July 12 2015 14:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE.

On July 13 2015 06:56 ComaDose wrote:
soniv are you scum for not voting billybobmurrton or are you afk?

On July 13 2015 07:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
goddammit, a soniv modkill would have been the best

On July 13 2015 07:14 Bill Murray wrote:
jcarlson is likely mafia for trying to discredit the post where GlowingBear labeled me as the person he wanted to lynch

he said oh hes just bussing

thats scum for you

##unvote;
vote: jcarlsoniv

On July 13 2015 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Actually, show of hands.

How many people want to yolo onto Dandel RIGHT NOW.

On July 13 2015 08:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:


No shenannies swaglord

On July 13 2015 08:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Blue claim? Fuck no.

They just roleblocked me. That's ALL I'm saying.

On July 13 2015 08:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Stop wifoming and convince me you aren't scum pls.

On July 13 2015 08:53 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I explained why I townread you. Soft pushing GB all D1. However, re-examining my read I realized that since GB is vengeful, that's a terrible, terrible read, since you ended up voting plotspot D2 as well (plus soft pushing vengeful is something scum would normally do). Beyond this you've had no town presence.

I explained this multiple times.

On July 13 2015 09:27 ComaDose wrote:
so its about to go down right?
its between son5 and billy mays if we gank wrong we loose
I think bill is more likely but im thinking asmo is a mod too...

On July 13 2015 09:34 Lord Tolkien wrote:
and why is asmo a mod too?

On July 13 2015 09:37 ComaDose wrote:
son5 ur on the fucking block u cant start a train what are you LT?!
asmo is a mod cause he doesnt do shit

On July 13 2015 21:09 Bill Murray wrote:

well played dude i thought you were town until you made 1 slip (which made me vote you in mylo)

you played a perfect scumgame for like 70 pages

On July 13 2015 21:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:
The biggest issue town had was the absolutely DISASTROUS D3.

On July 13 2015 21:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I mean, after plotspot posted a second flavor text that was different from the first, then decides to go "COMA BANNED, CONCEDE GG [no wait, this was all a ploy! Really!]". At that point....a policy lynch was in order.