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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 17 2015 19:11 GMT
#1001
LS why did you out so early and under no pressure didn't you trust me yo save you?

That's frustrating
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 17 2015 19:11 GMT
#1002
On June 18 2015 04:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.

I not I blue :O


you're not actually a blue because no blue would be that stupid.


ah yes, the "dumb = scum" trap

Ironically I think this is a dumb thing for you to say.

Although your anger comes off really fake to me...why must the worst people in the game be the hardest to read?


who exactly are you scum reading btw? don't remember you saying a single thing since rsoultin penis battle
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 17 2015 19:15 GMT
#1003
On June 18 2015 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:08 Onegu wrote:
Here is the best meta read on the site. When HF and Rsoul are both town they get along. When one of them is scum they shit fight with each other.


you mean like the thing that i already mentioned as a reason for her being scum this game? ^^



Still havent read whole thread yet
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 17 2015 19:17 GMT
#1004
I'll be more active in a couple hours I have some interesting thoughts.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 17 2015 19:19 GMT
#1005
w/e i'm going to go relax for a bit
Zerg for Life
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 17 2015 19:20 GMT
#1006
On June 18 2015 04:10 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.

I not I blue :O


you're not actually a blue because no blue would be that stupid.


ah yes, the "dumb = scum" trap

Ironically I think this is a dumb thing for you to say.

Although your anger comes off really fake to me...why must the worst people in the game be the hardest to read?


It is best if you go back to your stance of not talking to me.



Why, cause you know I'm right and you're dumb? oh maybe you're scum after all!

for the rest of the thread, Kelsier is griping on things that are not scumtells. Indeed him getting so mad at everything leads me to believe he actually isn't town, given that nothing in this game so far that he has gotten mad about has actually been something I would get mad about...and many of you know how mad I would get if I actually thought this game was going poorly.

Case in point, from the game I hosted, a town but dumb artanis did this:

On June 06 2015 04:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think this game needs some action, berating for people being bad and stuff like that.
I hardclaim jailkeeper.


This out of the blue claim makes almost no sense from a mafia perspective, especially coming from a mafia player who is so weak like LS. This actually pretty much makes LS 100% town because as scum there is no way he would ever consider taking that much attention completely out of the blue (hehe geddit) on day 1 under almost no serious pressure.

Kelsier is scum for not being able to see this and instead getting "mad" at everything and everyone. I would expect someone who even considers themselves half good as town to be able to understand basic scum and town motivations, and Kelsier so far has not demonstrated that ability.

##unvote
##vote KelsierSC


On June 18 2015 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.

I not I blue :O


you're not actually a blue because no blue would be that stupid.


ah yes, the "dumb = scum" trap

Ironically I think this is a dumb thing for you to say.

Although your anger comes off really fake to me...why must the worst people in the game be the hardest to read?


who exactly are you scum reading btw? don't remember you saying a single thing since rsoultin penis battle


Did a couple rereads on rsoultin and not feeling that great about lynching her. Would prefer Kelsier at this point because his play doesn't make much sense to me from a town perspective.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 17 2015 19:22 GMT
#1007
i don't think kelsier is scum either :D :D :D
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 17 2015 19:23 GMT
#1008
On June 17 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 12:04 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
yo hf you got a real scumread on me

i'm curious

so very curious


well i'm taking your old meta on me and reversing it so you being an ass to me for no reason is scummy since we usually get along as town

either way continue doing stuff



bugsss i mean i can see where you're coming from i suppose but no motivation to explain things and stubbornness isn't a mafia trait, in fact it's usually a town trait? i'm gonna do some lawyer shenanigans right now though and mediate:

bugs outline your main gripes in concise bullet point format
rsoul answer them in concise bullet point format

let's all be nice and hug it out



you disappointed me

(more to the point, we got along fine when i was scum, so that's just bad, hf. i expect better from you)


Except for the fact she always talks in QT about this meta.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 17 2015 19:23 GMT
#1009
totally great reasoning!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 17 2015 19:26 GMT
#1010
so boxerfreds 2 hours has long past


##unvote
##vote boxerfred
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 17 2015 19:27 GMT
#1011
jesus i can't even english any more
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 17 2015 19:27 GMT
#1012
Man why are all a bunch of spammers I play like 1 game of dota and there are like 7 more pages...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 17 2015 19:28 GMT
#1013
On June 18 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
jesus i can't even english any more



Thats because you are British and they dont use correct English anyway.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 19:31 GMT
#1014
On June 18 2015 04:11 Damdred wrote:
LS why did you out so early and under no pressure didn't you trust me yo save you?

That's frustrating

Tired and frustrated with KSC it seems like he loves to tunnel me when I blue.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 17 2015 19:31 GMT
#1015
On June 18 2015 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think kelsier is scum either :D :D :D


why? he's pushing the lowest-common-denominator players in LS and shockeyy, and I wouldn't call what he did with respect to shockey much of a push.

When you look at his posts in general and in particular on LS they all come off as fake anger. Literally every post he has is angry for no particular reason. When townies get angry they generally do it in reaction to happenings in the thread. Kelsier is just faking angry all the time.

Within his first few posts in the game he says stuff like this:

On June 17 2015 07:26 KelsierSC wrote:
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On June 17 2015 07:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't like kelsier either. Stupid thing to go on rofl. I think that if I saw someone else post what I did I'd be like "great that doesn't really mean anything. Let's move on" haha


then you don't know how to play the game


On June 17 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
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On June 17 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI

I'm town

Really anyone can just claim town you know -_-


On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o


derp.


LOL

good old LightningStrike

he used :o already but I imagine if he rolled scum he'll be more careful this time to not get caught by me. Take this as your warning, you know that I know your meta. You better help me out this game or I hope for your sake that you are scum, cause you'll be dead before you know it.

anyway, come out and play, Mig. You better not have rolled scum this game or I'll be disappointed I have no one good to talk to

##vote Mig


lol that has to be the most fabricated, weak shit i've ever seen.



On June 17 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:
On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
Really anyone can just claim town you know -_-


On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o


derp.


LOL

good old LightningStrike

he used :o already but I imagine if he rolled scum he'll be more careful this time to not get caught by me. Take this as your warning, you know that I know your meta. You better help me out this game or I hope for your sake that you are scum, cause you'll be dead before you know it.

anyway, come out and play, Mig. You better not have rolled scum this game or I'll be disappointed I have no one good to talk to

##vote Mig


lol that has to be the most fabricated, weak shit i've ever seen.


Actually he does know my meta and in fact he made a meta case on me in Witchcraft III when I rolled scum and here was the case:
On June 09 2015 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
##vote LightningStrike

I think Lightning is like 95% scum.

At first in my notes I had Lightning as having a scummy entrance, focusing a lot on asking people questions but using a tone and posting style that is very non-confrontational. This causes LS's posts to come off as forced and I find it hard to piece together his logic if he were town. e.g. this post:

On June 08 2015 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?


not really. Do you?

On June 08 2015 08:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
[quote]

I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.

Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.

It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.

You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing.


Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that.

Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying

I kinda dislike his pressure on FreezingFoot since FreezingFoot could be a smurf and him calling him out so early just seems like it's a preplanned motion from him regardless of his alignment so null.


Notice the qualifications I've bolded here.

He doesn't like it, but goes back and says oh I guess it could be preplanned. So it's null. Null is not a read.

There's also this that follows:
On June 08 2015 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Also sure it would be nice knowing FreezingFoot's aka but it's not as important as finding scum.


Notice LS says it's not as important as finding scum but LS doesn't actually ever attempt to find scum.

Half of LS's posts focus on "hey I'll be back later" and are also seemingly very self-aware. e.g:

On June 08 2015 09:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Well guys I going to get some dinner and when I come back I will check everything that goes on after this post!


Townies don't generally do this so freaking often. You don't need to announce to everyone that you're going to do your job as a townie, unless you are very new or scum.

So at first I ignored LS because I thought, maybe I'm wrong and this dude is new. I needed more info, however, so I posted this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?page=14#262 while looking into LS's past games.

TL Mafia database has a LOT of games for LS. So he is NOT a new player. This instantly made me more suspicious, but I wanted to see if as town LS was more confident and helpful. Turns out, LS is one of those players I would say has a very clear cut difference between town and mafia. I would suggest you all to skim over some of LS's past games, but in particular the ones that stand out are:

Jack of All Trades
Horn of Africa
Student Mini Mafia (although this one is from when LS was newer)
XXX Mini Mafia

Compare these quotes in the spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +


1.
LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and I finding Geript pretty townie this game but than again I never played vs his Mafia yet but so far I feel he's pushing and asking a ton of questions is pretty much him being town.
Slam is thinking logically so far although I hate how he suggested a RNG shot Blazinghand style but he been pushing out ideas and not being boring like he was in Slytherin and Student IV when he was Mafia so I giving him a town read by meta.
HTS looks really shakey and starting to look a tiny bit like her Void and Newbie LX Mafia games so possible Mafia by meta.
rsoultin I love you and all but I need some extra time on you from the fact that I just coming off of 2 games of you being Mafia and might get some paranoia which I might have still on HTS because I not completely forgiven her for lynching me in Newbie LX. But you being very cheerful so far but idk if that is alignment indicative.
Tubesock I hated the No Shoot idea but the logic behind it seems townie but I have yet to see him play as Mafia.
Breshke is asking some questions and also reconsider his own thoughts and looks townie.
Damdred you need to bleed town this game to me because the last time I played with you in Titanic you were Mafia yet you looked so townie in my eyes I just couldn't really play right
Your Mom and Sepulchre are both smurfs and idk their other ids but I finding Sepulchre pretty townie on his large post and asking questions with some good explanations for why he thought of stuff like HTS making them intentionally bad or bait and his thing on OBS but I remember OBS having bad Day 1s as town so I would give OBS some extra time to see if he bleeds town.
Your Mom haven't posted much either and got Null on him simply because he got very short questions and posts so far so I might need more posts from him to see where he lies for now.


vs

2.
LightningStrike wrote:
Town:
Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game.
Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions.
Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me.
Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game.
Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before.
Null:
Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative.
sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad.
VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him.


Both summary posts, early in the game.

Answer:

+ Show Spoiler +
1 = mafia, 2 = town


1.
LightningStrike wrote:
I don't disagree for now on the Eden read. Rsoultin just seems to happy to be Mafia given she played as Mafia twice in a row into Town with me lol. I'm sorry I was Mafia in that game Damdred it just hurt when you called me Mafia but Geript carried me till he died and did a hilarious bus on Sandroba when sicklucker got lynched lol........


vs

2.
LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
sicklucker wrote:
##vote dandred

Okay what reasoning you got for voting Damdred because I don't see anything but just the vote onto him without a explanation.



Answer:

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Both town


1
LightningStrike wrote:
I agree with you on kita Rayn considering a lot has happened since his last post and not really commenting anything relevant except for the shot ideas. Also I remember Toad being mostly carefree early in Hammertime when I was a Cohost when he was Town and he coming across the same way so I incline to think he's town.
Rayn you know how to read Sicklucker from my past experience with you and him together any thoughts on Sicklucker so far?


vs

2
LightningStrike wrote:
I now also torn because I like the case from JAT but HF does seem to play his town meta at the same time from Void Mafia I guess I will need to Yolo on one of them :|
rsoultin and Breshke can you read HF's filter from Void Mafia and JAT's filter from Void also please?
Here is their filters:
Town Holyflare: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=Holyflare
Scum JAT (Smurfing): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=Wile E. Coyote



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3

LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was playing LoL game and HF's case on JAT is legit now that we seen HF flip Town and he made many good points on JAT and honestly the bully behavior that JAT displayed this game when people were voting is consistent with his behavior in Void mafia where he bullied people off him in the entire game as scum. Here's his filter from that game although he just was smurfing in that game that is why the name might be off
His scum game in Void: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=Wile E. Coyote


answer:

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1 = Mafia, 2, 3 = Town


1.

LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and sicklucker is fighting Breshke instead of the other cell mates o.o Also Geript being mad at Kita too and Tube fighting Geript this is interesting stuff going on here and personally I never played in a Cell Setup before so this interesting. Also Geript claimed he got Vig powers and claimed to had shot Sep but yet Sep survived so most likely Ninja in Sep if what Geript was saying is true. I will admit I guarded the Button since we don't know what the button does I thought it was safe play since it kind of like the presents in Carol where we gotten random Presents 1 from a Mass Murderer when unwraped instant kill the person 1 with a Cop power for the Night and 1 with a Vig Shot for the Night and since it prob pure rng what we get I really don't want to give Mafia extra powers or extra powers for ninjas either and weighed it in myself and decided to guard the button.


vs

2.

LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry for not posting much and a update on reading Sandro's past games and will come up with stuff for tomorrow and sicklucker paranoia went through my head sorry and now seeing some light that you are more likely town than Mafia. Tomorrow I will present my findings on Sandro's past games as both alignments and present everything I have on him.


vs

3.

LightningStrike wrote:
I was just wating for more posts to get some better reads that why I haven't posted much because there was really much for me to ready. I still waiting for alakaslam, Dicksmash McIroncock, and Meatpudding to post.
My reads are atm the following
Town: Oatsmaster, sicklucker, Damdred, kushm4sta, Trfel
Null: Half the Sky, Breshke, Alakaslam
Scum: Dicksmash McIroncock, Meatpudding.
Dicksmash didn't post anything after his first post for the day and Meatpudding is either trolling us with the stuff he posted earlier or he scum but time will tell.
Alakaslam at least gave a good explanation for his posts.
Breshke gave a explanation on why he voted for sicklucker
Half the Sky made some decent posts but it reads null in my eyes but I still kind of new to TL Mafia (2nd game in TL mafia).


vs

4.

LightningStrike wrote:
Guys fyi I wont be here from about 11:45 am to at least 4:30 pm CST and I still think Sandroba is Mafia based on meta and Oats I getting him as Town as he playing like he did in Office, Void, and New Years Eve Party where he was a little lazy but he seemed a little motivated now to play the game although I wished he had played on Day 1 but he's here now.


5.

On March 08 2015 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and will answer your question.
Tubesock I thinking some resemblances of her last game in Titanic now and Day 1 I had paranoia because before Titanic when I played her she was Mafia and rolled Mafia in another game too. The reason I seeing some resemblances from this game to Titanic because in that game she also was confused on setup stuff esp on the fact we had 2 Jail Keepers ( Nigella in Carol) and she having some confusions this game on setup stuff too. So a slight Town meta read on her.

Onegu since you confirmed town by the Cop Check I will do as you ask just promise me you shoot Geript okay?

HTS Happy Birthday Girl I assuming you going to party for a bit
##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu


Answer:

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All scum




LS's scum play is very very non confrontational and he generally gets away pretty well with just asking questions and making excuses for not having strong opinions or posting much. Tends to be very self-conscious in the thread when he rolls scum, which makes it very easy to recognize him

He knows me inside and out :o


But now you're self aware of it and it can't be used anymore

I was just making a point to KSC as to why I didn't think it was fabricated stuff from bugs that's all.


I see that he made a good case on you in a previous game. that wasn't what was fabricated. The content of the post i quoted was weak and fabricated. my mafia sensor went red alert.

Is the vote on Mig by him that making it go red alert or are you sure it's not yellow alert?


it's his bullshit defence of you, his weird fucking "oh be careful i've got my eye on you" crap and then his stupid fucking vote.

since then he read the thread backwards which is usually mafia and he asked some stupid question about how good nydus is on a scale...which is totally pointless and serves no purpose.

He is mafia and you should all vote him.


why does he need to qualify every other word with "fucking" and "stupid"? At this point in the game almost nothing had happened, yet he was already angry.

Take a look, on the other hand at this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=KelsierSC&view=all

Just ctrl-f "fucking" and you see that he uses it exactly once over like 3 days.

He posts like this

On May 10 2015 23:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 23:30 Xatalos wrote:
On May 10 2015 23:09 Stutters695 wrote:
Cool, this started. I don't think I've ever done a n0, anything special about it?


Not really except the really strict post restriction.

I can't read the LS post TLDR / conclusions, if any?

KSC: I can sort of agree with the fact that making weird plays (Damdred) more often comes from town. It's just that this assumes that it *was* in fact a prepared play and not to cover up questionable reads. In any case, how exactly did LS's post make you change your read? I at least couldn't really extract anything from it.


well, my initial scum read on him was because the first few posts were terrible and didn't say anything. He said he was going to post in a specific, albeit terrible, way and now he has actually made a contribution to the game I don't have any reason to scumread him anymore.

I'll reevaluate him when he gives more as his post didn't break any new ground, null for now


Where he is actually diplomatically posting and explaining himself instead of just going "well fuck you're dumb" and running his mouth all the time about random shit that he says makes people scum but actually doesn't say anything at all.

Another good example is this:

On May 11 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote:
3/10

Kelsier -

Through the course of the game yes - particularly when I was pushing him D2 and after I died, he was calling me scum hardcore (the only one to do so) in that game. You'd have to read either in the obs qt or the post-game but he was particularly noted for being the only one to scumread me all game, that's how he stuck out that game.

Also Kels, I find it interesting you pulled that up because in this game he's saying

On May 10 2015 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:

[...]

I remember HTS overreacting to my opening post in Newbie LX and everyone talked about it so it could be alignment indicative for her O_o[spoiler]

[...]


He's saying that because I was scum in Newbie LX, that my opening this game could be alignment indicative.

Though that still raises an interesting point.

Why does he say "alignment indicative" instead of straight up calling me scummy or leaning scum on me?


ah ok I get what you're saying now. you're saying he should very much be calling you scum or town because of the previous game in which you were scum. I thought you were saying at the beginning of that game he called you scum which isn't how I read it.
LS has been pretty all over the place so far , kind of looks like floundering scum, pressured into a read and shows a bit of push back calling HTS scum, then instantly retracting and now calling her town.

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 03:18 Xatalos wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
How is her entrance scum-specific exactly? Does she open some way as scum, not as town?

Wait I retracting I had misread it she done this type of entrance as town just been a while since she did (Titanic) sorry about that HTS just bleed town for me please? <3


Right -.- And what's your read now if we ignore that?

On May 11 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 11 2015 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: BlazingVivax

badass


Not 3P?

Town she had some good large posts on analyzing stuff about GlowingBear and is thinking critically.


so LS do you agree with the analysis that HTS did ?

HTS I also don't like TD , but i don't agree with your reasons. point 1 is kind of meh, if you don't like someone you can give your read and a reason without asking them a question. Point 2 is ok , I sort of think at first glance the argument damdred puts forward looks strong and it certainly comes from a townie place, but is actually weak in retrospect, I definitely think not explaining why the argument is weak is a negative for him. for point 3 I don't know if he blows it out of proportion, he hasn't really pushed any agenda as far as i'm aware.

As i said, he did some stuff I didn't like but nothing like concrete I guess.

Your GB points are interesting but I don't think they make him mafia. You don't have to respond every time someone calls you scum or if someone else doesn't share a scumread with you.
I think GB is town for some reason

But I like the effort your putting in and you have pushed some interesting stuff so I like you so far.


And I like this one because he actually comments on LS, who is also in this game we are playing now. Notice the difference here; in Assassination Kelsier actually gives his reasons and asks particular questons. e.g. he points out how he thinks the GB points are interesting but he doesn't think it makes GB mafia.

Here he just does stuff like this:

On June 17 2015 23:00 KelsierSC wrote:
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On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.

@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?

@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.

The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).

@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.

I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible.


thanks for your life story and the reasons you play mafia. I'm glad you avoided non-sense and spamming the thread.
Congratulations on your wife's birthday.


which is just needlessly antagonistic and goes against what appears to be his normal style as town.


LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 17 2015 19:31 GMT
#1016
On June 18 2015 04:09 Onegu wrote:
Just saw something.

Going to PLynch LS. Going to do so every single time he claims blue in thread. Until he stops doing it.

##Vote: LightningStrike

You would rather lynch town than scum? Clearly you going for the most antitown move by lynching blue.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 17 2015 19:32 GMT
#1017
On June 18 2015 04:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:09 Onegu wrote:
Just saw something.

Going to PLynch LS. Going to do so every single time he claims blue in thread. Until he stops doing it.

##Vote: LightningStrike

You would rather lynch town than scum? Clearly you going for the most antitown move by lynching blue.


yo, you're a self proclaimed meta master. How would you describe KSC's play as scum vs town?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 17 2015 19:35 GMT
#1018
On June 18 2015 04:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 04:09 Onegu wrote:
Just saw something.

Going to PLynch LS. Going to do so every single time he claims blue in thread. Until he stops doing it.

##Vote: LightningStrike

You would rather lynch town than scum? Clearly you going for the most antitown move by lynching blue.



Dont care, I have told you already if you claim blue again for shit reasons I will PLynch you. So Im going to push it.
Try TL Mafia!!!
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 17 2015 19:35 GMT
#1019
you know kelsier gets banned on tl like every month right WBG? the guy is just an angry man
I come in for the scraps
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 17 2015 19:36 GMT
#1020
btw another hint to KSC's alignment here appears in one of his scum games

On December 11 2014 01:31 KelsierSC wrote:
K idiot proof version.

Kush said sky is blue, wait sky is red. Ff went back to the op and worked shit out and was like, wait Kush there is no way you could believe sky is red, explain. It basically showed ff as really try hard.

I'm ob my phone so cant quote but it did happen.

you need to ask yourself what the fuck I could.gain from heynscrooge claim oh wait don't in terms.of actual game progression.


Look at the attitude he displays in this post and then compare it to the one here. Then compare them both to the town game I referenced earlier, Assassination. Notice the anger in this post.

In one of the games I read he died day 1 but it still appeared that KSC still managed to say shit like this:

On March 06 2015 21:36 KelsierSC wrote:
This whole series really pissed me off because it makes no fucking sense. If you are going to "attack" someone you should actually have a decent reason, you can say this is "applying pressure" but firstly. If he is the best player in the thread he isn't going to reveal anything under this pressure. And also YOU ARE TELLING HIM IT IS JUST PRESSURE which removes the point entirely. He also throws in a line about HF being the best player which feels like a butter up.


And again you can see the difference in tone between KSC's scum and town games. Here he is all-capsing stuff and saying "oh it pissed me off because it makes no fucking sense" when as in his town performance in Assassination you rarely if ever see him say things like this.
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