EPT[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1
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On June 03 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote: someone doesn't know history. why is trolling mafia indicative? and what is the proper amount of trolling? It's not. It's just annoying. But when you are belligerent towards town from day one, I don't see any reason to keep you in the game. I don't know enough about your meta to decide if this is town or mafia, but I'm happy to leave my vote where it is at the moment. | ||
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Can you explain why you threw a vote on ritoky? You posted these posts: On June 03 2015 06:27 milo109 wrote: I want to vote Ritoky just for making me look at that image.... On June 03 2015 06:32 milo109 wrote: Alright. I'll bite. For the reasons of trolling a little too much and misspelling the quote in your signature: ##Vote ritoky While I also expressed my concern with his posting style, I have been trying to find out if this is his usual style of play. My concern with the way you went about this situation is that you didn't like his posting style (which to be fair it seems many people don't either) and seem to have voted solely based on the fact that you don't like his posting style without bothering to see if he always does this. TO be more concise, the goal is to find players who are acting scummy; if, as you self proclaimed, you haven't played with him before, and you do not know if this is his usual style, you have no information to tell you if this style from him is suspicious or not. So I think your vote on him is suspect in that you made the vote because you read him as annoying, not because you read him as scummy. Thus, I would like to hear more on you about your vote.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure I explained above. I'm not comfortable reading people scummy yet, due to that lack of information. I am certainly not convinced that ritoky is town from the way he has played. I see no reason not to pressure him. | ||
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I don't like the use of the word 'Unfortunately' in Kickstart's accusation of me. It seems to be an attempt to come from the point of view of a paternal town, who only sadly pronounces judgement. It's possible that he actually feels that way, but it feels scummy to me. I'll read Damdred town for now just based off his questioning of me. He caught my mistake of logic, while Ritoky and Kickstart both seem to just dislike my vote. Ritoky is still null for me. Still don't like the playstyle. Still keeping my vote. No idea on the others. | ||
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On June 03 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote: nope, this is my reason for voting you: and the contradiction is very clear. Perhaps I'm blind, but I still can't see a contradiction. I said I voted you for your playstyle, you said you voted me for a variety of reasons that I suppose I'll attempt to refute now. but you're not pressuring me: The whole pressure attempt went down the drain after everyone pressured me got my vote. you're taking the game very seriously from the start which a new player is more likely to do as mafia than town: Just how I type and how I play. Perhaps as I play more I'll start feeling comfortable enough to post links to images. you can't see a joke which is a mafia tell for many players: I got the joke. I just didn't find it very funny. you called me mafia at a point only when it became popular opinion and for not good reasoning: As I have said before, it was indeed not good reasoning. That wasn't why I voted. Also.. this scumread on me is more popular than voting on you. you're ignoring my posts that aren't pictures.: It's hard to answer four people at once. | ||
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On June 03 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote: Wait, I'm confused by your stance here as well. You "voted" him + Show Spoiler + thanks scott for point out there's a separate thread for that Def could be scum there. @Milo SL asked before and I didn't see you answer. What is your prior Mafia experience? Alright. There is no certainty in life. I should have said more certain. I've been busy typing, so I apologize for any posts I might have missed. I have played video mafia for a couple months, never played forum before. | ||
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To concede to the points questioning my reasoning. I'd never pretended that I knew you were scum, and I wanted to make that clear. | ||
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I don't think that Chocolate is necessarily mafia for his one post. It's possible he had to go, and he was basing his read on Tiktok off of two posts. It seems a fine opener. Not sure if I like VE attempting to turn attention to someone unable to defend himself. Nydus is my white knight, and I'm sure that will skew my opinion of him but he seems town just from the irreverent way he gave his reads. I still don't like Kickstarter. I didn't like the tone of his accusation, and the way he quickly attempted to insure he wasn't thought of 'bandwagoning on me' as if he knew I would flip town. | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Now just how do you know that he's unable to defend himself? In fact, he's already responded to my point so that makes the bolded completely irrelevant anyway. He didn't seem to be online, thought that has obviously changed. It is easy to accuse someone who can't respond to your points until later. | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Like okay wtf.... How did milo know that Chocolate was AFK? He literally gave no indication that he was leaving, he said he was STILL PLAYING actually because he said "I'm gonna go look at something brb", how did milo know that Chocolate was in a position where he actually physically couldn't respond (i.e. grabbing dinner)? ..... He hadn't posted in the last.. half an hour? It was pretty clear that he wasn't participating in the current discussion. | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that's not how it works in forum mafia. At least, that's not how I play it. I play the game as if everyone is here all the time (regardless of whether it's true or not) because there's no way to be online all the time - so chances are I'm going to miss people when I'M online. Therefor it doesn't make any sense to wait to accuse someone until they're IN the thread because I MIGHT NOT BE IN THE THREAD THEN. Savvy? Hadn't thought of it that way. You're correct. I still don't think you had a reason to call him mafia, but I was wrong about diverting. | ||
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I assume you're talking about Nydus about the fast reads/perfect information? Because if you're speaking to my point on Chocolate, I don't think fast reads are bad necessarily. Mafia might shy away from them even with perfect information, for fear of future ramifications. As for Nydus pocketing me, I specifically pointed that out. I'm aware of the possibility, but at the moment I don't think he is. Saying 1v1 me is a promise is... stretching it. | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Well you're wrong about that too. My reasoning is explicit. Whether you think it's a good reason or not is up for debate, but you can't just say "you don't have a reason" when I gave my reason explicitly. Again you are correct. Apologies. I don't agree with your reason. | ||
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My top mafia at the moment is indeed Kickstart. I didn't mind his opening, as I can see it happening from a dedicated town perspective. I don't mind his questioning of me. My problems start here: On June 03 2015 07:01 Kickstart wrote: Unfortunatly milo this again makes no sense to me, you say you are not comfortable reading people scummy yet throw a vote on him because you just said you don't think (or you aren't convinced) that he is town, which means you DID in fact read him as scummy. But an even bigger issue than that for me is that that is not what you said when you threw down the vote, you threw down the vote because you didn't like his posting, and as I said, you had no way of knowing if this was his usual posting and thus the vote was NOT a vote on who you thought was scummy, even though now you seem to be trying to indicate that it was. I do not like your actions and I do not find this explanation from you satisfactory. ##Vote: milo109 While I am happy be proven wrong in my logic, this seems to be an inept attempt to bury me. First of all, me saying "I'm not convinced that ritoky is town" is -not- an attempt to call him scummy. I'm calling him Null. I also stated beforehand that was -not- why I was voting him. His bigger problem was that I was trying to indicate my vote was "was NOT a vote on who you thought was scummy," while every post I've made conceded this point. Then we come to this post. On June 03 2015 07:02 Kickstart wrote: Seems people are already on milos ass for this before I could throw that post together, just keep in mind I raised the initial concern and it took me some time to write my last post, I don't want to be accused of hoping on the milo wagon! This seems to be a mafia perspective. He was the second one to indicate a dislike of my posts. Why was he so paranoid that he would be accused of bandwagoning? He responds to this with: On June 03 2015 07:09 Kickstart wrote: Because from my limited experience on here, hoping on a wagon is the ultimate sin. But I guess you are right, I did do it with ample justification and pressure beforehand. Not everything has to be original. You're allowed to agree with people. If you're more afraid of being seen as hopping on a wagon than lynching mafia, you're not playing right as town. I can't tell if he didn't read my responses or is just trying to bury here: On June 03 2015 07:27 Kickstart wrote: Like ritocky I see many contradictions, some of which I just pointed out. But you just made the same contradiction by saying you don't think he is necessarily mafia for voting on you, yet that seems to be exactly why you've thrown a scum read on me. I clearly stated why I didn't like Kickstart's vote, and why I was fine with ritocky's. In summation: I've already taken too much time on this, so I'll wait for a further analysis of his later posts until later. I dislike the way he attacked me. I'm privy to the information that I'm town, and that helps put all this in perspective. | ||
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I don't like VE. He's obviously a strong player, and I don't think he's contributed as many reads as he should have. Sicklucker is an another possibility, but with people who still haven't posted, I don't think I need to find a third scum yet. | ||
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I assume you have a problem with my reasoning or is calling you scum blasphemy? | ||
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On June 03 2015 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Nah, I've thought you were mafia since you scumslipped that you knew Choco was AFK. You voting for me just gave me the incentive I needed.  I didn't know he was AFK, I knew he wasn't posting. This is the oddest reason to have a problem with me, considering all the other flaws in my reasoning. | ||
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On June 03 2015 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Except he did directly respond to my accusation. Directly. Whatever, I get what you're saying. In the future, just don't bring up your teammates ESPECIALLY if someone is drawing attention to them. Trust THEM to dig themselves out. Otherwise you end up digging BOTH of you a grave. I didn't. Which is why this is even more frustrating. I was wrong on the statement. But I was not predicting an AFK. | ||
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On June 03 2015 14:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Hmmmm...I DID get that timeline wrong. I'm not sure why that happened, I think maybe I got the sense that milo was typing his response to me WHILE Chocolate posted and maybe I took that and ran with it. You're right. I did start typing the post before Chocolate posted, which is why I didn't bring it up. | ||
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On June 04 2015 09:35 NydusHerMain wrote: How do you get blue reads on people in forum mafia? Have you read the post? | ||
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On June 04 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote: @milo - can you explain how else I'm supposed to read the Damdred quote? Honest question here. I've thought about it a bit, and my understanding is that only role town/Mafia get to act during night. So how could Damdred do anything, unless he had a role? He's going to revisit his reads during the night, as in checking them over. If he was going to cop visit, he wouldn't be 'revisiting'. Also, he'd have to be a pretty new or subpar player to claim cop. | ||
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On June 04 2015 10:04 Tictock wrote: Care to explain what you mean by dumb tells though? I've heard the phrase before but only sorta get what people mean when they say it. Can you give me an example so I can see what you mean? Not knowing what VT means, and assuming an random phrase was a cop claim. These are all potentially innocent mistakes, and God knows I haven't been all correct this game. Just pointing them out for what they are, blatant signals that the author is either newbie town or experienced mafia. | ||
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Dunno. It just came to me and sounded cool. | ||
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On June 04 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote: I said who "people think is scum" not specifically you. i.e. look at the vote thread You misunderstand me. That was me openly agreeing with you, not attempting to refute a point. Also.. This Tictock kid. Stealing my phrase. Everyones hopping on wagon of calling you nitpicky. :/ | ||
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On June 04 2015 16:30 scott31337 wrote: Milo - This looks like a "I solved the game" post which can come from either alignment, although unsure how serious he is. I saw Shining do this and got scummed for it hard when he was town though. Unless this is a smurf, I do not see this read coming so early by his posts. Showing anger and emotion - Mafia 101? He doesn't quote the interesting Fidei's post but he quotes every other post from his filter above and below this. hmmm This looks like a really wishy washy reply about Milo- And i'm not town-reading Tictock yet. I had Milo townread yesterday by his defense to the pressure though. Still worries me no one defending GG much. Going to sleep now I think. I'm still having problem with formatting which is why you see me quoting some posts and not others. Anyway. 1) That was half joking, half I solved the game. I feel like an important part of playing mafia is having confidence in yourself. 2)Not a smurf. But it's logic that I've used in video mafia before, and as VE is/used to be a video mafia player before... 3) I was angry. VE's method of accusation is uniquely frustrating. 4)Already half responded to this. My post was more of a reaction post than an analytical one. 5) Tictock: I have no idea where this kid is coming from. I disagree with most of his reads, but he seemed to have his own point of view that is consistent enough he might be town. Not my fault he can't get a hard read on me either. Thoughts on the lynches today: Chocolate/Templar I both believe to be town. Lynching them is a mistake. So let's look at alternate options. My favorite is VE. He has a town circle that includes everybody except those he is OMGUSing and people already under pressure. He's done nothing this game that seems unique aside from attempts to bury me, and when that failed, Chocolate. I wouldn't mind a Damdred or Kickstart lynch either. These two have both been saying quite a bit, but are careful not to do anything that might seem radical. I can't believe that this game is so cut and dried that you don't find any scum in people that haven't been under pressure. | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote: Firstly I don't think I have a town read on Milo, he's still null for me at this point but he is on the upper level of null. I kinda going to put kick towards the bottom of null here. . This whole... upper/lower levels of null thing seem to make it easy to pressure or defend people without actually committing to a read. On June 04 2015 01:39 Damdred wrote: Actually there is a very large difference to you making a bad point that I'm not responding to you whip I'm not here or you are still posting. To me saying you ignored my post since it was three hours after my initial post and you decided to interact with another post on a superficial level and now you are only making a show because you got called out. I really don't like the tone of this post. Unless you truly think your question is gamebreakingly clever, move on. On June 04 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote: So basically almost 24 hours in game you only have a strong opinion that 2 people are town one lean and the rest is null. Meh that post just irks me, it says a lot without actually doing much bah. The only reads in your filter before this are the upper level null and lower level null stuff and your 'god' townread on Ritoky. By your own reasoning, you should have more. On June 04 2015 10:27 Damdred wrote: I'm leaving of fi now because his post was...interesting. This is exactly what I said. -_- On June 04 2015 10:27 Damdred wrote: kick templars chocolate Low hanging fruit of the game. | ||
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On June 05 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote: not sure why me not wanting to lynch fi because you said it before makes me scum? You used the -exact- same wording. Just weird. On June 05 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote: The point is that kick was giving everyone hard times about giving reads and not doing so himself and when pressed didn't even answer the questions applied to him. So how does this make me scum? The point is that you were doing the same. Hypocrisy is often scummy. On June 05 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote: None of this makes me scum a majority of it makes me town and you neither state why it males me scum or any conclusion you bring yourself on the matter. My conclusion is that you're third on my lynch list. You could be wishywashy town, or you could be mafia. | ||
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On June 05 2015 01:52 Damdred wrote: I don't actually believe you believe anything you say That's just a weird thing to say. Why do you think that? | ||
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Chocolate Town VE Mafia I really don't want to get into that again. But I think that this is the way things do and should line up. Other reads: Ritocky is super town from the combination of both his activity level and the thought he puts into the game. I called him nitpicky earlier, but as the game goes on I appreciate the pressure he is putting on. Nydus is a light town. I'm sorta getting a dimwit silly impression from him, and it seems hard to understand why mafia would want to fake that. I realllly don't like his last post though, so that bumped him down. Fidei is town just for doing for the long, clear, and well-written way he conveys his thought processes. I've never felt jarred by of his logic. Damdred is scum. His vote on Kickstart and the way he has been playing is so noncommital. I still like Templar. You people don't understand his utterly dopey playstyle in video mafia. He plays here like he does there. The problem with these reads is that means only one scum voted on Kickstart. And that's a real problem. I'll rethink this in the morning with my Onegu/Ticktock/Scott/New Guy sequel. | ||
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Onegu is just so... weird. I'm fine lynching him anytime. Can't read him. Tictock is town. Same reason for my read on Fedei. Scott is also probably town??? Weakest town read. New Guy might be scum. Weakest scum read. I hated SL's play, and I'm getting a 'desperate attempt to turn things around' vibe. | ||
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On June 05 2015 14:40 NydusHerMain wrote: Can you elaborate the dimwit silly impression? wtf does that mean The smily faces, and questions about posts that make it appear like you haven't read them. | ||
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On June 07 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote: Nydus might not be bad, actually I'm thinking might be a very good lynch D3. Sorry I have to head out or I'd discuss more. What does that even mean? Why does it matter what day we lynch them, if we think they're scum? | ||
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On June 07 2015 22:37 scott31337 wrote: What do you think about GG kind of giving up? Trust me, as someone who almost did the same thing, it can be frustrating to know that you're just being ignored by the people voting on you. | ||
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Damdred is almost the opposite. He started the game by mildly townreading everybody. None of his early posts take a stand. Then, when he is accused he defends himself by saying, 'make a case' or 'you're dumb' instead of actually proving himself town. | ||
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On June 08 2015 01:26 Shendelzare wrote: Edit - at Milo - "you still think Damdred and VE are both scum by the way they are in this thread right now?" Yes. | ||
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On June 08 2015 07:00 scott31337 wrote: Since GG flipped town and mafia knew this was coming, i suspect at most only one mafia on him. Unless Ticktock is mafia. Then there is probably at least two in the votes on GG. | ||
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On June 08 2015 07:12 Damdred wrote: Are you that sure about Fi and chocolate milo Hmm? | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:41 Damdred wrote: You said that there were at least two scum on Templars right? IF ticktock is scum. Which I'm not certain about, though the votes on him look pretty good. | ||
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On June 08 2015 09:13 Tictock wrote: Why DO you think I could be scum? Honestly atm, I only understand Fidei's reasons for voting me. I guess I understand GG's reasons too, I just found them to be shit. Damdred then VE then maybe you then maybe Onegu then maybe Scott then maybe Shendel | ||
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[QUOTE]On June 08 2015 09:08 milo109 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 08 2015 08:41 Damdred wrote: Why DO you think I could be scum? [/QUOTE] Oops. Misread question. Why do I think you could be scum? You just lead a mislynch on a town. | ||
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Onto the future: I want to lynch Damdred. He did indeed vote on both town. Why is he proud of that? He spends most of his post calling everything I've done except the vote scummy and then doesn't even have the courage to lynch me until day 5(Which if we don't lynch a mafia by then, won't happen.) He knows I have too much town cred over my unvote to lynch me, so he'll try to get courage cred by mildly scum reading me while mislynching town. If you keep lynching in the Me/Chocolate/Fidei/Templar circle you're going to lose. I believe that we are all town. If Damdred flips town I'll revaluate but until we lynch outside that world, we can't move forward. I implore you town, don' t be swayed. | ||
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VE NMH Damdred Scott Tictock. | ||
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On June 11 2015 17:39 scott31337 wrote: If Tictock dies - ## Damdred/VE/Fiei86 If I die - Tictock/Onegu/Milo if Onegu dies - Damdred/Milo/VE If Damdred dies - NHM/Onegu/Fidei86 If VE dies Damdred/Milo/Fidei If Milo dies Damdred/VE/Onegu (doubtful) If Fidei dies Onegu/ If NHM dies Why do I keep forgetting about NHM? NHM needs to die. This is inviting mafia to get a mislynch by choosing the world they aren't in, killing the person that indicates it. | ||
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Quick thoughts on votes. Day 1 It seems impossible to believe that zero mafia voted on our blue. Also... I actually think wasting your vote there was towny. Both mislynch targets were town. Mafia could have hopped on any bandwagon they wanted. Day 2: GGTemplar was also an easy person to call scummy, so I think that at least two of the mafia were on him. Day 3: What sucks is that the same people are voting on the easy mislynches. Correlations and conclusions: I don't think Ticktock and NMH can both be scum and I don't think Onegu and Damdred are both scum. I also think just from voting that Onegu is town. Ticktock is also probably town. Just need to find one more. Either way, from voting and play, Damdred is a good lynch. He's playing like scum trying to close out a game. | ||
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On June 13 2015 03:21 NydusHerMain wrote: Stfu if hes town and I'm mafia I have no incentive to even post. I've already won with the amount of People voting on damdred if he's town. I'm dying to determine his alignment. Why shouldn't I try Milo? YOU ARE NOT in my town circle so why shouldn't I just vote on you for telling me to stop trying to win the game?d The only possible way that you aren't opposite alignments is if I'm mafia. You should be attempting to confirm my alignment if you want to solve the game. | ||
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And VE/you, but VE especially gave reads and then expected everyone to fall down in awe. That last day you explained your reasoning, and I made a choice. Obviously the correct one. Honestly. If Nydus was scum with both Ticktock and I, why would he vote with us? He's trying to make his death make you mislynch me. We're still in permanent MyLo | ||
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On June 09 2015 04:48 milo109 wrote: When I voted you, there was only two votes on Tick. If I'd been back in time, I would have switched to him. It wouldn't have changed anything, but you're right, that would have been the correct play. Still. Just because I think Templar was town doesn't mean I think he is correct on everything. I still don't think Tick is hard scum. My statement on the two scum in voters if tick rock is scum is for future reference. Just thought he would have been a better lynch than Templar. On June 09 2015 05:06 milo109 wrote: I'm not freaking calling Ticktock scum. | ||
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On June 15 2015 07:35 Onegu wrote: Also if someone is blue it is the time to claim ...... | ||
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On June 15 2015 07:00 scott31337 wrote: Do you see the quote above? Scott/Onegu/NMH vs Ve/Damdred/Tictock - He would not want to vote against Tictock, we all know he's AFK and wouldn't come back and Milo will be too to change any votes. He would want to vote where he does as well. The vote at that time was against two townies, so maybe I'm overthinking this. He wouldn't care who gets lynched - but he looks better on me then Damdred on a vote switch. What are you talking about? If you were both townies mafia would have won if either one of you died. If I was scum there, then why would I care about voting against party lines when I could win? | ||
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On June 15 2015 08:03 Onegu wrote: We are in 5 player Lylo with how the vote went yesterday getting another confirmed town is the correct play Our blue died.... Not sure how you missed that. | ||
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On June 15 2015 08:07 scott31337 wrote: Because you had to board your flight and had to take your best chance - what would it matter if you voted Damdred then? Damdred would have fought for his lynch just like how he had second thoughts about my lynch. We vote HYM - and you look even worse to everybody. Are you willing to bus your teammate TT today instead? You think you were the easier lynch, instead of someone I pushed on for three days straight? Also.. it's NHM. And obviously I'm not letting you lead another lynch. | ||
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On June 04 2015 14:18 scott31337 wrote: I see this as Onegu's town game. He tries much harder as mafia and likes rolling mafia - but we can agree to disagree for now. He'll show some more when he feels the need. Scott is the first aside from Onegu to mention the Chezinu rule, and then defends Onegu. On June 05 2015 03:09 scott31337 wrote: Bad post - seems to look like trying to go for an Onegu Mislynch in my opinion, try to start a bandwagon. Is this from a town who doesn't like Onegu or a scum trying a wagon away from GG or Chocolate? I know Onegu isn't playing great, but he will shine his moments when need be or we can worry about him tomorrow. I don't want to lynch him today. Onegu thinks Chocolate and Milo are town though. The perfect thing to say about your mafia partner to preserve him from the mislynch. On June 11 2015 02:18 scott31337 wrote: So KS's hard claim post was http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view.php?post_id=24368838 and Milos unvote with proper BBCode was http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view.php?post_id=24368841 There were a TOTAL of two Teamliquid posts in between these - and we know BH uses this number for RNG. Is this possible? Did scum!Milo see a soft claim and had this prepared? He then tries to get rid of the unvote with a conspiracy theory. And uses it to push another town read on Onegu. On June 11 2015 15:19 scott31337 wrote: Milo with this carry fucking unvote sucks NHM and Onegu are useless but I have to go with Onegu town to make this work On June 11 2015 16:41 scott31337 wrote: Tictock who do you want to lynch tomorrow? He hopes to get Ticktock to help push a mislynch, but fails because Ticktock reads him scum. On June 11 2015 17:39 scott31337 wrote: If Tictock dies - ## Damdred/VE/Fiei86 If I die - Tictock/Onegu/Milo if Onegu dies - Damdred/Milo/VE If Damdred dies - NHM/Onegu/Fidei86 If VE dies Damdred/Milo/Fidei If Milo dies Damdred/VE/Onegu (doubtful) If Fidei dies Onegu/ If NHM dies Why do I keep forgetting about NHM? NHM needs to die. THIS POST IS SO DUMB. TOWN WOULD NEVER POST THIS. [QUOTE]On June 12 2015 13:48 scott31337 wrote: [QUOTE]On June 12 2015 13:40 Damdred wrote: Because I'm not completely sold on Ticktock yet, and I'm trying to line up votes to avoid shenanigan plans. For Onegu? I have to basically go on an instinct that he is town at this moment for the above reason or the games over anyway. [/QUOTE] ..... | ||
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On June 15 2015 10:02 scott31337 wrote: Milo - So what happened to your Damdred read on day four? I reevaluated like everyone was asking me to do. Like us town do. And it worked. | ||
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On June 15 2015 07:35 Onegu wrote: Will be voting milo. Scott is like 99% confirmed to me as town or game would be over. Like if me and scoot were mafia Damdred would have been lynched. ... This is a factually incorrect statement. There were three votes on Damdred including you and scott. If you two had unvoted and moved to Damdred, Damdred/VE could have moved back to you. | ||
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On June 15 2015 14:22 scott31337 wrote: Process of elimination. I've been weird on you still alive for a long time, especially when Day 4 came. You have to get me mislynched today. if Milo gets lynched and flips scum you're fucked and you know this. And town loses the game... Which is also something worth fighting against. From either side, this is the game today. Calling Ticktock scum for defending me works equally well on Onegu defending you. | ||
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On June 16 2015 00:15 scott31337 wrote: If I was mafia, why would I shoot Damdred who had a lot more open mind, instead of you who seemed more at my head? To try and frame me. | ||
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On June 16 2015 00:47 Onegu wrote: Day 4 Vote Count Damdred (1): Scott (2): Tictock (0): NydusHerMain(4): Damdred, Scott, VisceraEyes, Onegu VE be smart. If me and scott are scum and move to damdred its 3-1-2 with damdred being lynched. Use your brain Unless Damdred and VE both move back too. | ||
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On June 16 2015 00:49 Onegu wrote: Me and scott were both around EoD we tell hosts we are switching at 30 sec to deadline and fucking switch and there is nothing town can do about it. I would be the worst fucking mafia player on this site if I was scum this game and didnt do it. Town could also... freaking.. switch. That's the point of a separate voting thread. If that's the only argument for you being town... it sucks. | ||
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On June 14 2015 05:33 Damdred wrote: Ad long as you are here ve I have a tab open for last second vote switch. Though it's scary but tt is wielding me out a bit to | ||
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On June 16 2015 06:58 scott31337 wrote: Scum aren't doing shit - I would be doubtful if we see another Milo post. I hereby prove this false. | ||
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On June 16 2015 09:43 Onegu wrote: This post is complete BS. Why does town have to OMGUS. Your statement that town has to do this is shit. You are making things up. If you're town, you know that out of the four votes, one has to be mafia. More likely, it's two or three. So the odds of you hitting someone who is voting on you versus voting with you is much higher. And why NMH and not Onegu? He instantly with no hesitation picked NMH after Damdred vetoed Ticktock. A prearranged bus. Honestly, I know you guys don't believe what you're saying but this is the world you have to push. I am proven not mafia with Chocolate, so my unvote makes no sense from a scum point of view. And then, right after Ritoky calls me -inno child- he dies. Like if I was scum I would kill someone who would never vote to lynch me. | ||
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On June 16 2015 09:45 Onegu wrote: @VE On my knees begging, what can I do to prove to you that I am town? Scum's favorite question. | ||
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On June 16 2015 10:00 Onegu wrote: Dude you are making shit up. He wanted TT, then Damdred said hey lets go on NHM. Read my post fully before commenting please. | ||
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On June 16 2015 10:10 Onegu wrote: My point is why would he go on someone else when damdred was the one pushing for a NHM lynch. The fact he compromised when the game was at stake is insane, unless he knew that it wasn't a risk. | ||
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On June 16 2015 19:32 Onegu wrote: If scott is town he know 100% town loses the game if he is voted. So switching to anybody at that point even if he is town is 100% the correct play. He wanted a TT lynch and asked for it. When that doesnt go through in order to not just lose the game there he has to have someone else lynched. Doesnt matter who. He chose to have scum NHM lynched over town damdred. There is no scum motivation to do that in lylo. You are trying to make town scott look bad and you are using incorrect logic to do so. You are scum 100% You're correct that he has to switch. But you don't switch to just anybody. You switch to your top scum read. He could not have lynched Damdred, so making it seem like he switched away is a misnomer. | ||
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On June 16 2015 20:52 Onegu wrote: We were in the last hour, how much do you want him to fight? If he was town, that last lynch was the GAME. I want him to fight at least a little bit for it. | ||
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On June 16 2015 06:58 scott31337 wrote: Scum aren't doing shit - I would be doubtful if we see another Milo post. Also.. Screw you. I wasn't around as much due to travel, but to try and use that as a scum read today is idiotic. I've posted the most today. So stop trying to pretend that I'm an evil lurker. | ||
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On June 10 2015 02:59 scott31337 wrote: My order would be - Tictock Milo VE Damdred Fidei NHM Onegu Chocolate ................................ It's almost as if he takes the town, puts them at the top, and then takes his mafia partners and puts them at the bottom. Show me where he read NHM as scum, not fence or town. | ||
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He literally has four town in descending order, and then his two mafia partners, and then one last town as camo. | ||
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On June 16 2015 21:23 Onegu wrote: Here he reads NHM scum. Abit before he votes TT then changes to NHM I meant before the day when he was being voted by everyone. Obviously at this point he has to set up the bus if he's going to do one. Until this post, he always had NMH as town or fence. | ||
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On June 16 2015 21:59 Onegu wrote: The only way that works I think is if milo and scott are scum together and Scott knew milo was going to be afk. Wait. You think if I was mafia with Scott I wouldn't tell him I was going AFK? | ||
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On June 16 2015 22:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Milo over the course of the game you've had a pretty unshakable mafia read on me. I'd like you to explain it for me in detail plz, why were you unable to see me as town for so long during this game? K. At the start, I really didn't like the way you called out that 'slip' on me or the accusation on chocolate. I just felt like out of all the interactions out there, to choose those to focus on was weird, as if you wanted to get some easy mafia reads. Then once we lynch Kickstart, you pressure GGTemplar and keep going on Chocolate. I was pretty sure they were both town from the way they were playing, and the reasons you gave seemed to be tenuous, without much logic. At that point, GG/Chocolate/I were pretty hard aligned. We were defending eachother. And you seemed to be the enemy. As they both died and flipped town, it seemed like I was right. Town was defending itself against scum, but just not well enough. Then Fidei/I formed a bond, and we both agreed on the fact that you were scummy. And then he dies... But that last day, it was pretty clear to me the groups of three based on the votes, and you guys were all trying so hard. It was the lurkers vs the posters, and I just couldn't justify carrying my read on you any further. The world where you were with TT was pretty tenuous too. | ||
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On June 06 2015 18:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Jesus VE's pwning mafia in here and everyone just runs and hides. On June 06 2015 18:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyone hear that? It sounds like the ghost of town Jesus showing us the way. GGTemplar is trying to keep attention off Chocolate, in exactly the same way he's accusing me of trying to "attack Ticktock's accusor". It's pretty cut and dry. On June 06 2015 22:25 VisceraEyes wrote: I literally don't even know what you are referring to. Plz stop shitting up the thread and let townie voices be heard. when you're proven wrong. Obviously I was wrong about it, but I didn't like the way you pushed your reads. When they were also reads I didn't like... I thought you were scum. | ||
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On June 17 2015 03:46 scott31337 wrote: 2. Milo's play has been scummy beyond the unvote, and he's trying to ride it until the engine blows up. I've been responding to every point made in the thread today, so stop trying to say I'm riding an unvote. | ||
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On June 17 2015 03:56 scott31337 wrote: You were quoted one right afterwards. This is the point you choose to fight? | ||
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