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On June 13 2015 04:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm now evaluating a world in which BOTH Damdred AND Ticktock are tryharding as mafia and I'm just fucking retarded. Please standby. Please do check this option. I mean I am thinking about this game, but I do not see swaying Onegu from his vote -I could probably get NHM to change it, but that just leaves too many options for scum. The other wagon is me. I am town. | ||
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 But if that's the case, there's a mafia on me and can last minute switch anyway and it's over.I've always had mixed emotions about yourself. | ||
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On June 13 2015 06:20 scott31337 wrote: VE is the one I'm most in doubt of. But the other two I'm pretty confident of now - TT should be dead and he's not. After the three mislynches he went after me But if that's the case, there's a mafia on me and can last minute switch anyway and it's over.I've always had mixed emotions about yourself. Keep fearmongering. It's helping my case, not yours. | ||
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On June 13 2015 06:20 scott31337 wrote: VE is the one I'm most in doubt of. But the other two I'm pretty confident of now - TT should be dead and he's not. After the three mislynches he went after me But if that's the case, there's a mafia on me and can last minute switch anyway and it's over.I've always had mixed emotions about yourself. Sure I went after you. Has nothing to do with me trying to follow Onegu's thinking about Damdred. Reading Damdred's filter and coming to my own conclusion that he is town. Also has nothing to do with how you claimed you want to sheep me after I made these two posts. Which since you now bring up that I was on multiple (2 btw) mislynches seems like an odd thing to want to do. Unless it was an attempt to pocket me. I has been reading Onegu as town most of this game as well as made a case on Damdred early on when he irked me after EoD. You prob figured I'd fall in line and lynch him next. Also this post, where you are almost conditionally voting based on the night kill... wth was that? You say we should dismiss those posts kus you were messing around while drinking... sounds to me more like your trying to cover up your drunken slips since you felt like you had this game won. I'm gunna have to find some of those fabled Town Rainbows in your filter for me to reconsider my vote. | ||
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On June 12 2015 11:50 milo109 wrote: Alright. Let's look at the worlds. Quick thoughts on votes. Day 1 It seems impossible to believe that zero mafia voted on our blue. Also... I actually think wasting your vote there was towny. Both mislynch targets were town. Mafia could have hopped on any bandwagon they wanted. Day 2: GGTemplar was also an easy person to call scummy, so I think that at least two of the mafia were on him. Day 3: What sucks is that the same people are voting on the easy mislynches. Correlations and conclusions: I don't think Ticktock and NMH can both be scum and I don't think Onegu and Damdred are both scum. I also think just from voting that Onegu is town. Ticktock is also probably town. Just need to find one more. Either way, from voting and play, Damdred is a good lynch. He's playing like scum trying to close out a game. What changed your mind from this Milo? | ||
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The Case for Scott being town On June 03 2015 07:12 scott31337 wrote: I know how you don't like to give away your "magic secret meta tricks" but can you elaborate a little more on this? I just showed the MMM2 game you were scummates and he showed his XXX town game. What's the difference you see? So I still wonder how he knew this - There is either a specific word Ritoky uses - or something to that nature. Damdred noticed as well I asked about this as well. Damdred gave away his LS meta read and I can understand why he wouldn't want to spill this, and he never did... On June 03 2015 07:08 scott31337 wrote: I like Kickstart's post so far, slight town read I did like Kickstarts posting even when the thread consensus was that he was scum. This was an early D1 read, but I saw things in his posting that made him townie to me. I never voted for KickStart D1. Kickstart flipped JK. On June 04 2015 15:36 scott31337 wrote: Who would you be willing to lynch beyond GG, Kickstart? Tictock got one of his first town reads on this, that I was looking for other alternatives, or seeing what his train of thoughts were. KS was still a scumread for quite a few here. On June 05 2015 03:14 scott31337 wrote: VE just stealth voted onto GG - I'm about 70% GG is town just by how the votes are going. The case can't be that great... I already have a spider sense someone who's pocketing me is mafia - just need to figure out who. How true this has become until today when I was being townread until Fidei died. Now it's all on the choo choo lynch Scott train. Oh how I remember this interaction with Ritoky - On June 05 2015 05:55 ritoky wrote: this EXACT read is why i am defending chocolate and templar. they did the same shit you did that game. it is literally the same scenario. i just realized it too late in that game. I was a bit inactive in the last 24 hours of this game, but when I got online - I only had about a half an hour, made a post - voted away from the wagon. It's interesting how I had the same thoughts here. On June 05 2015 14:47 scott31337 wrote: The second paragraph is crap - Kick announced at 59 after and nobody would have time to change their vote. I was suspicious of the unvote because who had both threads open at the time? Even my having the internet in 1992 linux skills and bolding in time I would not have been able to pull it off. I do not like your coloring either. Dumb town or try to hard scum. It's not my response I want to look at, I see how his colorings are looking now, I apologize I gave him crap for this. Hmmm.. On June 05 2015 15:40 scott31337 wrote: 11:30pm - thoughts One of VE/Damred/Ritoky is mafia, maybe two. VE pocketed me early, a little too early. I'm suspicious of him. Ritoky is playing really well if he is mafia, better then what I have read. I really want to town read him, but, see above. Onegu is a meta town read - Needs to show up D2/D3 - which he normally does. GG Is a town read, and maybe ritoky is throwing my chain, but I got lynched in Newbie X D1 for the same reasons. Keep an eye out - like I mentioned, when Day three comes and they are not dead, start to worry. Chocolate I have not liked since the start - and maybe mafia moved their votes to protect their guy - It's too early to tell. I still do not like him - still scummy Ritoky - I really like his thoughts and I want him to be town so we can win - I have seen his play before as well though confusing us - and Kickstart saw it a little bit as well - Another D3 worry - I want to like him though. Fidei86 - crap. Milo - crap. TicTock - He improved his game a lot if he rolled scum this time. We talked back and forth and I think he's town. Day 4 then be worried. Look, It's day four, and I'm worried that town is going to lose. I must be a fucking magician. Do you think I would keep him or Damdred alive this long if I were mafia? On June 07 2015 05:47 scott31337 wrote: I'll take a page from Damdred's book If you think I'm scum fucking vote me This has not happened AT ALL until today, where mafia are going for the win. On June 07 2015 06:58 scott31337 wrote: I see a slight townlean from reading NHM's filter - I know I gave him shit for this post earlier on the coloring - I see a lot of honesty here for some reason. Admits to being a little lurky (which Scum normally wants to try not to stand out) and how important JK is (could've asked in the mafia QT?) He's a slight town lean. I don't like his Tictock read - with Tic's big case I like him a little more, but he isn't Tunneltock either and if he thinks someone is mafia as town, he will tunnel Unless he's learning his mistake. I'm trying to do critical analysis here, and figure out who is actually town and who is not. On June 07 2015 08:01 scott31337 wrote: We both may be misguided on Tictock and he is mafia, but I'm really doubtful of it at this time. The only thing that makes me wonder is he is not TunnelTock like our last game, but that's not that important. He still gets a townread. If you are actually town, beyond me, who would you like to lynch? Who do you see as the scumteam? I'm still weary of Tictock kicking it up, and he has - He townread me until day 3 and now, time to GG it out. On June 08 2015 13:58 scott31337 wrote: There's a "vet" in the scum team, and that is why Ritoky is dead. And by vet I mean Onegu/VE/Damdred. I have not like Fidei's play but let me re-read his filter - The game is over now. I think it is a litle unsettling you call out that game though, SPIDEY SENSE going off. Fuck me. I just want to town Tictock - I really do, but another pointing of out that there is something not right. On June 09 2015 03:51 scott31337 wrote: Shendel/Tictock are town, they are trying to solve the game. Slight towns on Onegu/VE/Milo109, but I'm pretty sure there's a vet in the scum team (Onegu/VE/Damdred) - Milo's eod1 unvote was pretty towny, but like I mentioned, don't give him a free pass if he keeps slacking Damdred's play hasn't been too impressive, and can see what he is doing as mafia Fidei/Chocolate/NYM - so if the above is true on the vets, then one of these are town. After D1 his play Chocolate's play went to shit. Choc- And to answer your question - because you have shit the bed after day one, if it's legit vacationing or just reasons to not post - you also say who I think are town are mafia. If you are active and start doing some critical analysis, that help town with their PoE (Process of elimination) If everyone craps town rainbows, the mafia have no where to hide. NYM- His list post here is allright - although he had GGTemplar as red, GG called him out that he's been mafia siding all game and wants SL back, and then he does his "Templar is town" with little time left before the lynch - to look better? His post here though Makes me think he is a town lean though - He's going thru Chocolate's thought process and sees an unnatural flow. Fidei- A lot of phone posting and one liners - He also had to half scum me in that Ritoky WIFOM post. Fidei - can you follow up on this for me? Because you might be on something here. Keep re-evaluating guys, we got two ML's left, and we can get scum tomorrow, we'll have something to start checking with their filter and finding the other two. I have faith in you If I make it thru the night, I'll do some more digging, make Onegu post a case (You can do it!) among other things.Damdred was posting the same things I did and it was a nice feeling - and very doubtful he wrote all that in 25 minutes (the time between our two messages). On June 10 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote: So here is a VE game as scum that he survives until the end. Carnival Cruise Mafia Mafia Absorber Survived Night 5 When the worry is off him (about day 3) he doesn't post for shit until a "Sorry catch up in the thread" - The obvious town in obviousone calls him out and VE starts posting like a madman again. He says Obviousone is scum as well. VE wins the game. Hmmm looks awfully familiar I spent time looking up VE's previous games as town and mafia. I learned some tricks from LS (although I'm far from the meta master, it sure does help) - VE died off until he needed to be important again. I already gave away my trick (doesn't show so much emotion as town) so he can play on this now and adapt. On June 10 2015 06:15 scott31337 wrote: You know what, I'll feel better if I lose because I took a stand then just let VE do nothing and win as mafia while we all kill each other. And VE starts posting again. On June 10 2015 06:48 scott31337 wrote: Who were these people? And yes, this is the pocket I was referring to if you are mafia - get on my good side? The Won't lynch today pile you have - Won't Lynch Today / I WANNA say town, but I just can't yet for some reason: Damdred Onegu You have not interacted with either of these people at all when you got to this. Has this changed? ![[image loading]](http://galeri2.uludagsozluk.com/388/and-its-gone_399107.jpg) Wow, you do actually interact with Damdred... Once... Yeah... This tinfoil fits soooo well though. VE never replied about how he never interacted with Damdred until I looked into his filter and called him out. I searched many filters (using the all thing) and for others nicks - this one was suspicious, he only interacted with Damdred once. He interacted with the other people alive (me, fidei, etc) much more. Some scum do not interact since they have the QT, and it also leaves town information if one of them gets lynched. On June 11 2015 08:31 scott31337 wrote: Sigh. Triple LYLO? great... Well I sure kicked up my game as well If I am scum, just like Tictock. Sounds like Damd wants to go after me and GG it out - not surprised. Let's see how well that will work. I'll re-read after a bit though. And the finalization - when I've been mostly townread until today by just about everybody. They are trying to point out my drunk "if this person dies" post. I WAS TOWNREAD BY ALMOST EVERYBODY UNTIL TODAY! Now it's all disappeared. Got to get that mislynch somehow and win for scum, and I am the target. | ||
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Basement shit took most of my time today, plus I missed work kus i had to be around to let the plumber in. More shit from there... I ended up passing out early due to frustration and exhaustion. Trying to get out ~6 inches of standing water from your basement sucks, and there's still the bit were I have to sort through all my shit and pick out the things not completely ruined by this. End Rant I'm taking your bolded points to be the main arguments you are making here. On June 13 2015 12:38 scott31337 wrote: Look, It's day four, and I'm worried that town is going to lose. I must be a fucking magician. Do you think I would keep him or Damdred alive this long if I were mafia? ---- I WAS TOWNREAD BY ALMOST EVERYBODY UNTIL TODAY! I'm not impressed that you had already stated that by D4 you would be willing to lynch me. In fact I find this to be very poor town thinking in general. You don't give players X amount of time before you lynch them. You take the posts that that player has made and update your reads as the game develops, or you use their filter to see if you missed something or if things make more sense later. Saying "Welp, it's D4 and he ain't dead yet, time to kill off TT" is pure nonsense when we are in LyLo. The fact that you keep trying to push this logic as your "read on me" is both insulting and clearly scummy thinking. In regards to your two points here (I find them oddly interrelated) well I did some digging through our departed Townies reads (well the NK's at least) and noticed that they did all have something in common, and I think we can take a guess as to why Fidei may have been the last NK. Ritoky isn't easily townreading you. In fact he has you, Onegu, and Nydus as null reads. Sure I'm his main scumread (or at least he still heavily suspects me) there but if you clear out the rest of the confirmed towns from his list there, that just leaves Scott, Onegu, and Nydus. Interesting... On June 08 2015 22:52 Shendelzare wrote: I'm extremely busy at work. Once I get off work though, I'll look into Damdred/VE/NHM given the concerns I'm reading. I'm pretty sure Scott is okay but will probably give his filter a runthrough to make sure I'm not missing anything. Milo is making me a little nervous as a lurker, NHM for that and the reads day two. Shen only had one full cycle to spend on this game and she was mostly looking into chocolate. She did say this about you late into her last Night. Ok it's not much, but its another person who says them want to look into you a little deeper. AND Shen was proving herself to be quite capable at catching little details. WIFOM spoilered! Read with Caution! + Show Spoiler + I've actually wondered a fair bit about why Shen would have been killed off. I'm fairly convinced it was because she was an unknown element and did a lot of work to overturn the reputation that SL left the slot in. Compared to Myself (who was almost lynched D2) and Damdred (who had gotten a fair bit of flack about his style as well as the KS lynch) and VE who up to that point was on the completely wrong track, I think Shen was clearly a greater threat to the scumteam and a much more difficult Mislynch as she was gaining support. Then there was Fidei... On June 12 2015 05:56 Fidei86 wrote: I just don't think it's possible for anyone to read Onegu as town. I also don't understand the Scott read. Scott hasn't led anything. He hasn't stuck his neck out once. He also reacted super badly to me calling him scum the first time. He was actually very rude ("your heart is going faster now, isn't it?") - I found that actually a little intimidating, and I don't know why a townie would say it. Of course, NHM could just be misguided town. But I hate the read. Oh thats right, Fidei didn't like Scott did he? He also clearly had some issues with Onegu as well... He also was clearly working on a case against Scott On June 12 2015 06:31 Fidei86 wrote: If I die before I can post my "this is why Scott is Mafia" bible post, I'm going to be frustrated. This tube ride has lasted forever. Thank god for the wifi at stations though. Made this shit bearable. On June 12 2015 06:41 Fidei86 wrote: Okay first thing then look back at his day 1 and see how he gets on the chocolate wagon. He gave no reasons. In fact, he said several times that he thought both wagons were town. He did exactly the same on the GGT wagon - saying several times he thought GGT was town, but keeping his vote there anyway. There's tons more but given the impending NK I just want to get it out there. Besides the fact that Fidei was one of the most townread people comeing into today this seems like a great reason Scott and the team would have wanted Fidei gone. I'd point out that GG was also scumming Scott, but honestly I dont see much reason to trust his reads. Still just another person who wasn't townreading Scott. So the idea that you have only been townread this game is clearly false. Also by looking through the NK's I can find statements by each of them saying they think you are worth a closer look. Then of course there was Fidei who was clearly working on a case against Scott. I'd wager than Scum really wanted to kill off either Damdred, VE or Myself N3 but they settled with Fidei since he was a hard person to push for Mislynch today and he clearly was onto something with Scott. And with that I'm off to read your filter Scott, though tbh I think I'd be perfectly happy just sheeping Damdred at this point. Both because I'm willing to stake the game on Damdred being town at this point and you've given me plenty of reasons to think you are scum today besides his Case on you. | ||
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Scott starts off this game with a bit of filler, some weak townreads, posting old games (of other people), and some easy advice posts ("There is a voting thread" type stuff). Pretty NAI stuff. This is scotts first post with any real opinions. He is mostly scumming Fidei in this post and is suspicions of Damdred and VE. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2015 04:11 scott31337 wrote: I'm back now - I do not like this post. It really does not say much and have any conclusions - although he shares the same ideas with VE as I do - I'm going to keep an eye on him for now. Damdred never did reply to my meta question and has magic meta townreads, but we wait until Day 2 unless something comes up. VE is noting Chocolate is trying to get a easy ML on me, I like where he's going with this - and I don't think it's a VE pocket, although I've seen him play like that either way. From how Milo defended himself I believe he is town. I still like Kickstart although the thread consensus seems to be the opposite. I'll reread a few pages of the thread I was pretty blitzed last night when I did so. Yet in his very next post his top scum are GG and Choco... + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2015 04:27 scott31337 wrote: GGTemplar and Chocolate would be at the top of my scum list. I could sheep Kickstart's case on GG, It brings up fairly good points. I was awaiting a response before I voted, and we got another whole day as well. Skipping past more filler posts... Then spends a lot of time/effort explaining Chezinu rule, some questions to KS, moves Choco to possible town, so his scum is Fidei and GG, Votes GG. This post struck me as a bit odd, Scott is just being nitpicky but it's reading almost like a weak attempt to solidify his vote on GG. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2015 15:25 scott31337 wrote: I can understand a Nydus town read, but SL? Do you see SL as townie? I see a null at the moment and unsure how to pull a townie read from SL's filter. He cannot even get Milo's or Fidei86's name spelled right. Fail on one maybe, but two? You have townreads and haven't read enough to get their name right? I can understand a "Palmar/Palmer" thing, you know what I mean? Just seems weird to me. I've explained how I feel on Kickstart (another misname) already Does any of this strike you as suspicious or am I over-reading things? Like he's throwing a shit list out and going poof? Then there is the quote that Scott says I townread him for + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2015 15:36 scott31337 wrote: Who would you be willing to lynch beyond GG, Kickstart? Here is another odd post... I had stated my conerns that Scott was so far looking pretty similar to his scum game, this post is a weird way to reply to that. It's more confrontational and inflamitory (like he is stirring up trouble) than trying to help show me he is town. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2015 15:54 scott31337 wrote: What do you think so far Tictock? Has your opinion changed on me? You are being scumread by a few people as well - ![[image loading]](http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003133139/5747562267_21410032_answer_1_xlarge.png) Here is another post that on the surface looks good (like the question I mentioned before) but if you look closely he is just mimicking ritoky's own opinion back at him. It's actually brilliant because it deflects the suspicions ritoky is stating while refocusing him on GG. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2015 16:01 scott31337 wrote: Could this be how you feel about GGTemplar as well? I see very little resistance so I'm starting to get that mislynch him mafia doesn't care. This post is also interesting, Scott is throwing out suspicions on Milo and myself, but not really doing much about it. He also just restates this "I'm not sure about GG, nobody is defending him" logic. I'm not even sold that this thinking has much value, + Show Spoiler + it's interesting but fails when scum buss their partners. I could see Scum defending a town mislynch, or Town trying to defend Scum who they don't think is so bad. A scum up for lynch (with partners that buss them) would have few defenders and a town playing really bad could easily get lynched without anyone bothering to step in to stop it. I think I liked this post when I first read it because I kinda understood where Scott was coming from on his opinion on Onegu. Looking at it now though I find it weird that Scott is scumming Fidei for wanting to lynch Onegu when he himself says that Onegu isn't playing great. It's also interesting Scott keeps saying we should keep Onegu around since he will improve later on, I find it rather interesting Scott promises this FOR Onegu. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2015 03:09 scott31337 wrote: Bad post - seems to look like trying to go for an Onegu Mislynch in my opinion, try to start a bandwagon. Is this from a town who doesn't like Onegu or a scum trying a wagon away from GG or Chocolate? I know Onegu isn't playing great, but he will shine his moments when need be or we can worry about him tomorrow. I don't want to lynch him today. Onegu thinks Chocolate and Milo are town though. I didn't spend a whole lot of thought, I copy/pasted most of what it was about from another thread. Your vote (and you never did really vote) was fairly early and seemed to be of starting a wagon going early. Do you know what I mean? I would agree because I do not see SL being re-motivated, but I'd rather not vote him today either unless you aren't seeing bigger fish. More promises of Onegu's great scum finding abilities as Town and a meta read as to why Onegu isn't Scum. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2015 03:16 scott31337 wrote: He's really good at finding mafia when he's town, but he doesn't build cases very well. I've observed probably at least five of his games. He likes to roll mafia and enjoys it more. As town he's usually pretty meh the first day until he's got votes and such to look at - and that's why I want him for at least another day. If day two still sucks we can go after him. This post adds nothing at all and is a pretty clear attempt to pocket ritoky. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2015 04:16 scott31337 wrote: I've been thinking about this quite a bit actually, just haven't put it in the thread. Let's do it! Next few posts add little to Push for Choco as a lynch D1 or as a Defense of KS, Scott is just riding the EoD storm... exactly where I would imagine scum to be when both lynchs are on town that day. He even makes this post saying he thinks both wagons are town. However still says "Get on Chocolate!" after Kick claims. Easy moves for scum to make to show that they did not want to lynch either of the townies D1, and scum actually doesn't care if KS gets lynched, they can always NK him that night. That is just up through D1... I may split these up if I keep finding this much stuff... or I'll stop after D2 and just leave my vote on Scott. I'm actually ready to do just that after re-reading his D1. Scott posts this after his initial reactions to EoD. I'm noticing a pattern where Scott likes to make big posts with lots of quotes, but with very little of his own thoughts posted in between... seems like a scum strat to posting. Scott responds to Nydus' massive N1 post here and he is oddly focused on formatting stuff? I don't get why he says the Gree/Red text is a waste of time... + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2015 14:50 scott31337 wrote: Nydus can you give us a list of your scum to town? You wasted time with the green/red, and I know that takes time to do so, so this won't ask for much. Here we see that Scott has once again switched up his scumreads without a ton of reasons. GG has dissapeared, Choco is back up there, Damdred is now a scum lean, and even though they both scum Damdred Scott thinks Milo rounds out this team? + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote: Maybe - Chocolate town? EZPZ read - scum don't like scumming anybody. Rit super town? No, he's a light town. I see Fidei's ideas of "if this one mafia, etc" but he could be coached that as well, do not see any of it. ## Chocolate / Milo / (one of my pocketed vets, Ritoky/VE/Damdred) with a lean on Damdred. Damdred is playing his shit game, at least Onegu is pulling more off. I'm about 85% sure one of these are mafia, a slight lean on two. Ritoky looks a lot better then the other two, but worry when none of them die Day 3, check them out again. Then another post related to Nydus' coloring of names? A claim that Scott will have the game solved in a day or two... This post is actually REALLY telling. On June 05 2015 15:40 scott31337 wrote: 11:30pm - thoughts One of VE/Damred/Ritoky is mafia, maybe two. VE pocketed me early, a little too early. I'm suspicious of him. Ritoky is playing really well if he is mafia, better then what I have read. I really want to town read him, but, see above. Onegu is a meta town read - Needs to show up D2/D3 - which he normally does. GG Is a town read, and maybe ritoky is throwing my chain, but I got lynched in Newbie X D1 for the same reasons. Keep an eye out - like I mentioned, when Day three comes and they are not dead, start to worry. Chocolate I have not liked since the start - and maybe mafia moved their votes to protect their guy - It's too early to tell. I still do not like him - still scummy Ritoky - I really like his thoughts and I want him to be town so we can win - I have seen his play before as well though confusing us - and Kickstart saw it a little bit as well - Another D3 worry - I want to like him though. Fidei86 - crap. Milo - crap. TicTock - He improved his game a lot if he rolled scum this time. We talked back and forth and I think he's town. Day 4 then be worried. Notice how almost everyone is scum? Either Scott doesn't like them currently, or they have one of these arbitrary timers next to their name "D4, be worried!". I can't help but notice Nydus isn't on this list either... Onegu was a topic of discussion but why list Nydus if he is a scum partner who isn't under much suspicion? And then just more, Well they could be town but be scared if they are mafia posting On June 05 2015 16:03 scott31337 wrote: Damdred posts a lot of null/blah shit when he's mafia (or town) and it's hard to distinguish which side he's on. He's more of a busser (votes for his mafia peeps) - And doesn't want to take a stance so it'll mess up his "meta" for future games. VE is a little more aggressive as town but to be honest he's a tough one to read as well. He has more of a hard-on as mafia. I do not see that as of yet. Ok I actually need to stop there. This post is already massive and I'm only on page 3 of Scott's filter. I'm going to stop doing post by post analysis from here and just continue reading on my own. I'll update if my opinion changes, but honestly I'm amazed at how much I have found rather scummy in Scotts filter and have barely scratched the surface... I'm rather disappointed in myself for holding off reading his filter for so long. | ||
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Tictock
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I can find clear evidence of him fearmongering as VE put it. On June 07 2015 07:18 scott31337 wrote: Oh and I have this magical thing called the Subscribed viewer counter. I know it gets thrown off at times by Observers like myself, but when peeps refresh the thread and no body posts it is noted.  Reading the thread is a great thing to do, and it is often better to reread and think through what you are saying than to post your knee-jerk reaction to something. On June 07 2015 07:53 scott31337 wrote: What stops them is the "Why am I still alive" policy. You can only run that towncred for so long and wonder why that person wasn't shot by the mafia, unless they are mafia. I can get into it more if you would like, but that's the jist of it. There might be some truth to this theory, but I think it pertains much better in a latergame situation (like 3-5 people left with 1/3 still being mafia) and someone has skated by on weak towncred alone. The way Scott uses it in this game is more like a countdown timer before a player can be lynched. He goes back on his silly argument about Nydus' formatting I noted earlier, swaps Nydus to town.. then uses it himself... On June 08 2015 03:09 scott31337 wrote: Damdred/GG/Fidei/Chocolate I think they are in these four. Milo's play hasn't been splendid, but that unvote in day 1 is pretty telling - although I don't want him to just ride it and not do a whole lot. He throws himself out as a likely NK each night. Which is a odd little way to look towny, but it kinda worked on me when I was more tunneled on Choco. Claims he is mostly townread by everybody & therefor suggests he shouldn't be suspected/lynched... I had a few more points but upon reviewing Damdred's case again I found that they lined up with his own reasons for scumming Scott. I also find it funny how Scott multiple times in this game mentions that he thinks there is a veteran player on the Scumteam, and that it is one of Damdred/VE/Onegu, while he gives townreads to Onegu in general and often makes posts that look like vauge pockets attempts to Damdred. On June 09 2015 06:12 scott31337 wrote: Okay dokey What shall we do Damdred? Scott you played a pretty good game buddy, I'm impressed. Between you and Onegu and my own misgivings on Damdred I was almost swayed into voting him with you guys, but I'm doing my reading and it tells me that Damdred is town and that you are scum. My vote stays. | ||
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