Carnaval do Brasil Mafia

On May 22 2015 10:43 geript wrote:
I think Damdred's Mafia. Rsoultin's doing a very similar thing to what she did in Ver's game. Yet Damdred gives no read on her. Specifically he stuck by the rsoultin read and defended it despite multiple people, myself included, disagreed with it that early. Instead he gives a very random and wholly unsupported read on Ritoky. And it's a very loose read at that. It's something he can change at will or whim. He's just super passive compared to how I usually think of Damdred who just says what he thinks and doesn't give a fuck about what people think about him.

Sandroba has a decent chance of being scum as well. He just sort of popped in and complained about the stupid posting that's been going on. The fact that he hasn't found a single read to the point at which he posted is the thing that most concerns me. He's usually very good at finding minor things to townread people on. In the least I'd imagine that he'd think rsoultin is town considering the similarities between her posting in this game and Ver's (despite the post restriction).

I still think Ninjabunnies is mafia for her opening. Her coming back to basically defend something that shouldn't be important at all and she's experienced enough to know that the opening could be trolling bugs me.

On May 22 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:


you could be town :/ but i don't think this necessarily makes geript scum, either

being a non-entity is what i associate with your scum game and this was your first post worth its weight in toilet paper lol ><

On May 22 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:
oh and just in case you actually do read my posts and you're just being a purposeful asshole instead of an inadvertent one, sandy ^^ damdy did actually read me early and correctly in the last game we all played together, so geript's post makes sense from that perspective

the ritoky "soul read" is a thing, too, though...just not sure if geript should know that or not :/

On May 22 2015 22:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:


It's mostly just paranoia and me viewing him as mafia. So as him being mafia, I can see why he would push pressure off of him and onto someone else. He was getting pressure for not having reads, then BAM. Just comes out with reads right after this pressure on him.

I also just dont know how to read this now, because geript is pushing equally as much onto Sand. I feel like this is going to be a mexican standoff. Like if one gets lynched as town, we lynch the other. lol

On May 22 2015 23:18 Holyflare wrote:



I don't like liars

On May 22 2015 18:05 yamato77 wrote:
Seems a bit early for that aggro of a meta case

dunno if just bad, or mafia

On May 22 2015 23:26 Holyflare wrote:
what led to the early ritoky town read?

On May 22 2015 23:36 Holyflare wrote:
well that's absolutely fine then so geript is just bad

On May 22 2015 16:49 geript wrote:
ewbop: fixed
Like here's a TL;dr timeline
1. Sandroba has no reads
2. Ritoky asks useless pointless questions that lead nowhere
3. Sandroba gives ritoky townread
4. Sandroba retracts townread because of point 2

How is this critical thinking or reading that's characteristic of Sandro's townplay?

On May 22 2015 10:44 sandroba wrote:
I think I like ritoky, ff and I guess damdred for liking them. Would kill anyone else at this point. Funny that I can't think of any way to produce any useful info this game. Hopefully some scummy fucker will say something that I can pounce on soon.

On May 22 2015 11:57 ritoky wrote:


is that very different from his norm? is he not normally a passive player?

On May 22 2015 11:56 ritoky wrote:
could you explain the yamato read to me rsoul, especially how it relates to VA.

On May 23 2015 03:23 geript wrote:

Why should I care how a post comes off? Like that's completely irrelevant to me. I care if the points are good and if I'm missing/reading things right or wrong. Why should I care if people are misreading my emotional state? That's pretty obviously fucking irrelevant. Like people focusing on how angry or whatever the post is/was instead of the actual points bothers me.

On May 23 2015 05:13 ritoky wrote:
I like when yamato insults people. It makes me feel like he is townier.

On May 23 2015 07:30 prplhz wrote:
@sandroba How likely is it that scum!27ninjabunnies sheeped scum!geript's scum read on town!sandroba?

On May 23 2015 08:18 Holyflare wrote:


no her posts are so blatantly honest this game

On May 24 2015 06:33 Holyflare wrote:


Fuck you and all of your posts that say nobody looked at your shit on sandroba. You even mentioned what you do as town to just get a read out of someone "tunnel forever". Now you've made this bull shit sandro stuff into just a "difference of opinion instead of lying". You don't even give a shit about this sandro push at all. You've abandoned it completely. You have no real stance on anyone. The main people that look scummy you ignore.i bring up a good case on bunnies and you only bring a shit "dunno how to read her cz video mafia". Despite initially scum reading her and nothing having changed you abandoned it for something useless as that. None of the reads you have are substantiated at all.

Where is towny geript that pushes inconsistencies to his modkill/grave. You don't even give a shit about your own reads. Just complaints that nobody talked about it and doing shit all to talk about it more.

On May 24 2015 06:38 Holyflare wrote:


DEFENCE?

DEFENCE?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABABABA

On May 24 2015 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
/confirmed sandroba not giving a shit about the game.

Have you even read it?

On May 24 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
Geript/sandroba are team

On May 24 2015 06:54 ritoky wrote:
i just get the feels nb has extra info....does anyone else get those feels?

On May 24 2015 06:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Maybe Im a role.

Who knows

On May 24 2015 06:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:


And what do you have that makes you think im mafia?

On May 24 2015 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
bunnies probably mafia and they have a framer/gf anyway so don't waste checks on her just shoot

On May 24 2015 07:18 Holyflare wrote:


i don't really read you town at this point

On May 24 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
perhaps you should be more irritated with damdred and not me for afking his vote for 48 hours?

On May 24 2015 07:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm hardclaiming a role. Vig don't shoot me thanks.
If cop wants to check me, go ahead.

I'll give my reads later on.

I didn't want to lynch geript for who was voting on him.

As of now, im going to enjoy family time and let you all stew over which role i am.

Hint: I softed throughout this entire game basically to ritoky....

On May 25 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:


^^ yup, awfulest player ever

eh, it's the same problem hf had with it, i'm pretty sure: an apparent inability to see the claim from both sides

though there's an epidemic of that lately so maybe it doesn't mean as much as i first thought it did

where you been?

On May 25 2015 07:58 rsoultin wrote:
any opinion on fuba whatsoever? i couldn't find him in your filter -_-

On May 25 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:
Also ok not really knowledable currently I still haven't read anything since n1 start so take what I say as a grain of salt. Really likely to change quickly when I get to it eventually

On May 25 2015 13:26 rsoultin wrote:


-_- my point was that i didn't see a bunnies switch as as inevitable as you were painting it out to be, though when i thought about it more that doesn't matter really so lol >< just ignore me. i see your point now. she should have been more interested in getting you lynched sooner if she was that sure about geript

On May 24 2015 06:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Onegu/Sand/ wouldnt lynch geript ever.

On May 23 2015 07:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I'll try and get everything straight.

Yes, there are a lot of holes in the sand read, but I don't post everything I think at the time. It's alll a jumbled mess in my head that I try and get on paper.

Sand read- Mafia

Why- Comes into thread complaining, has no town reads, when I call sand out on said reads and put pressure on Sand for not having any reads, Sand comes out with case on Geript. This seemed to me like Sand was putting pressure on someone else on because I was pushing pressure on him for no having reads.

Geript Read- Possible Mafia

Why- The initial reason why I called Geript mafia is for his read saying that I used two different entrances in two different games I am currently playing. While I think that this isn't alignment indicative, apparently Geript did so. I questioned and made a comment on it, geript (and someone else) calling it me being defensive, but I thought it was a genuine reaction. The reason why I switched Geript to neutral, maybe town, was because his read on Sand aligned with mine, I also liked the read he gave on Damdred and Rsoul. I know I'm town, and if he is thinking along the lines I am, he could possibly be town. But I didn't call him out right town.

The 1maf/1town read- Usually in video mafia when people go against each other like Geript and Sand are, one is mafia one is town. I rarely see two town fighting as such. So yeah, they could both be town prp, but to me this seems highly unlikely. Like they are only focusing on each other, and not really looking outside of each other. It just seems very weird, so that is where my mind is at..

Other Reads

HF-Town
FF- Town
Rsoul- neutral- seems like mostly filler stuff. Idk the meta here or why people are reading as town.

Fuba- expected more out of, but would put neutral

Mafia- Ritoky is leaning mafia for me,

Onegu- I actually really like onegu. Not necessarily the best cases he has presented, but I think everything he has done comes from a townie perspective.

On May 25 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:


for reference

not that she ever did find what read she supposedly thought was his -_- bueno

i don't think this is getting us anywhere, to be frank

On May 25 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:


i really don't get how we're reading the same post here -_- are we talking about the same big post? cause what i quoted doesn't look like she's reading onegu town

On May 25 2015 08:28 fuba wrote:
I lost 10 bunnies somewhere...

On May 26 2015 09:06 Onegu wrote:
It should now be obv that I am town

On May 26 2015 14:43 prplhz wrote:

"to him"

Do you mean that specifically me, prplhz, should town read you now? Or do you mean that everybody should town read you and, consequently, so should I?

On May 27 2015 02:23 prplhz wrote:

what makes you think i know anything about how sandro plays as whatever

On May 22 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
... I'm not sure I like what you're doing here ritoky, you're asking me to make a snap read on you based on how you interpreted a post that I find slightly scummy? I'm not sure what you want me to say. I'm just going to look at your filter.

On one hand, it feels like you're trying to force me to fumble my words or something. Like you're waiting to prey on me...

On the other hand, you're actually talking about ingame stuff and trying to get reads, rather than posting gifs. Yet it's still lighthearted enough.

Yeah I could read you town for now. I just don't like this interaction we've just had.

On May 22 2015 16:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
That's a really angry post, geript. Atleast that's how I took it.

##vote sandroba

On May 27 2015 03:26 Fecalfeast wrote:

I just woke up. I actually already explained that ritoky isn't my main scumread last night I was just getting tired of him accusing me for non-reasons

On May 27 2015 03:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Without understanding geripts case?

Are you really spinning my post where I said "explain this last paragraph" and then posted right after "oh I get it" as me not understanding his case?

On May 27 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote:
eh, sandy, where's the double-bus thing coming from? i know ff voted rit, but looking back through his filter i'm not seeing any real push from him? it almost looks like exasperation more than anything

still haven't looked at ritoky's lol ><

On May 25 2015 12:18 ritoky wrote:
2 claimed roles in the thread and hf gets shot....and no1 protects him....blowing my mind a bit atm

On May 27 2015 05:49 rsoultin wrote:
he claims to have jkd ritoky

unless sandy thinks there is missing kp i'm not really following

On May 27 2015 05:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Idk see a sft from ritoky though.

Id love to sheep this, honestly....but can we trust fuba's claim.

Did fuba actually blocck someone?

On May 27 2015 05:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:


apparently this is why fuba is town

On May 28 2015 08:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol rsoultin you could have just claimed for us, idk why you wanted me to do it.

me and rsoultin are masons so its likely bunnies vet claim is fake. But then again masons and vet are 2 pretty powerless roles so who knows. Maybe mafia has some good roles. hard to tell

On May 28 2015 23:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm confused as to what is going. I'll reread once I get back from working out.

why is the last few pages just rsoul and oats arguing?

On May 29 2015 04:56 prplhz wrote:
well i'm voting va because i don't see him doing this as town or 3p you guys have fun with whatever

@rso is slam scum

On May 29 2015 12:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
that is true slam.

actually sandros day 1 is also really bad, the only thing that makes me think hes town is his postcount.

On May 30 2015 06:14 Onegu wrote:
Plus his scum reads on me are shit. First Im scum because it looks like my scum game. When that is incorrect I am scum because it doesnt look like my scum game.

On May 30 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
-_- wtf is this? bunnies is like obv scum all game and suddenly everyone shifts off her at the drop of a hat because the 3p says ff is scum?

On May 30 2015 06:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
The one person on my side this whole game and you succumb to a fucking shenanigan?

On May 30 2015 06:35 rsoultin wrote:


...

fuck it you're right ><



so he's on oats? -snorts-

On May 30 2015 07:22 rsoultin wrote:


how the fuck do i know why she didn't vote ff?

not gonna keep answering the same question. read

On May 23 2015 07:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I'll try and get everything straight.

Yes, there are a lot of holes in the sand read, but I don't post everything I think at the time. It's alll a jumbled mess in my head that I try and get on paper.

Sand read- Mafia

Why- Comes into thread complaining, has no town reads, when I call sand out on said reads and put pressure on Sand for not having any reads, Sand comes out with case on Geript. This seemed to me like Sand was putting pressure on someone else on because I was pushing pressure on him for no having reads.

Geript Read- Possible Mafia

Why- The initial reason why I called Geript mafia is for his read saying that I used two different entrances in two different games I am currently playing. While I think that this isn't alignment indicative, apparently Geript did so. I questioned and made a comment on it, geript (and someone else) calling it me being defensive, but I thought it was a genuine reaction. The reason why I switched Geript to neutral, maybe town, was because his read on Sand aligned with mine, I also liked the read he gave on Damdred and Rsoul. I know I'm town, and if he is thinking along the lines I am, he could possibly be town. But I didn't call him out right town.

The 1maf/1town read- Usually in video mafia when people go against each other like Geript and Sand are, one is mafia one is town. I rarely see two town fighting as such. So yeah, they could both be town prp, but to me this seems highly unlikely. Like they are only focusing on each other, and not really looking outside of each other. It just seems very weird, so that is where my mind is at..

Other Reads

HF-Town
FF- Town
Rsoul- neutral- seems like mostly filler stuff. Idk the meta here or why people are reading as town.

Fuba- expected more out of, but would put neutral

Mafia- Ritoky is leaning mafia for me,

Onegu- I actually really like onegu. Not necessarily the best cases he has presented, but I think everything he has done comes from a townie perspective.

On May 23 2015 08:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:


You know you could just ask me what my reads are or further explain reads instead of going ham. I'd be more than happy to give them to you.

I'm not sure which of sands points you are talking about. I havent even fully read through sands filter, just ping out the things i notice most while reading through.

Geript is a good read for me. Of course im going to comment more on something i am sure about than something im not.
I gave my justification about why they are both not town. read again.

Which one out of HF and FF do you think deserves a tr? I'm honestly curious. And say why.

More posting does not equal town. You know this from many of my previous games as mafia. Content= town. Reconsideration and evaluation of the game=town. Not mass posting. Just cause they are pushing and posting does not make them town. Easily done as mafia.

Fuba- I definitely didn't say Fuba wwas town. I said neutral, as in neutrally dont have a read either way. Dont put words in my mouth.
Says in thread he has been lurking,comes back basically 24 hours later with two questions that holyflare (I think?) answered yes to only, and hasnt said much yet.... NEutral

VA- haven't read anything worthwhile on commenting from VA
Onegu- I gave a read in an earlier post that I admitted to that was wrong

Now that I've basically discredited your entire post, Ritoky, you want to tell me how you're town, and not mafia?

On May 30 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:


-_- now you're just killing my high

yeah i guess ff is probably scum here lol ><

On May 30 2015 07:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like you said before the deadline 'this pretty much confirms 27nb town' so there's no reason not to vote me if i am scum since it'd be the best play to keep the claimed vet confirmed town alive.

But you keep making up your story and ensuring we don't actually get any use out of our first scumlynch

On May 30 2015 07:36 Onegu wrote:



For the uber credz

On May 30 2015 07:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
No my argument is that it makes no sense as either alignment. I'm saying that you are assuming 27nb was here before 1500 pdt when the optimal play IN EITHER SCENARIO is to vote me.

On May 30 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
like why do i even switch there if both are scum? what possible benefit could i get from that? you're all fucking retarded -_-

On May 30 2015 06:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
What was your ocnlusion on onegu?

On May 30 2015 07:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
GG no re

Lol it was fun game.

On May 30 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
eh gut says slam

i don't think i've been wrong on prp all game

On May 29 2015 03:34 Alakaslam wrote:
I dunno, I think Yamato is a better town player than me, however he had old info.

You all should have listened to him about VA lol

Oh well. I doubt VA is scum, I think he is Survivor. I relate to his play as survivor.

Oats is Damdred, don't forget this. Damdred almost got lynched and Oats is doing scummy stuff. (Trying to cut out the cussing XD- I volunteer with Kids now and don't want it to carry over, cussing is like that...)

I think maybe one of Sandro or Prplhz is scum. I have liked stuff from both though.

I don't want to get into the stuff regarding vet or not vet from 27

Rsoul & FF likely town. However, if I am right above, one of them is required to be scum.

On May 31 2015 10:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
dissecting the voting thread, following the timelines closely (specifically day 1 being the most important) I could also see a prphlz/rsoultin scum team. damdred's slot is pretty much cleared, i dont care how badass he thinks he is i dont think he risks hammering his partner like that. i didnt think oats was scum anyway so not like it matters.

Really up to FF though to make this scum team believable. Rsoultin has had this mysterious town read on prphlz all game so meh.

On May 24 2015 03:01 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, continue to call me mafia for shitty reasons and dodge giving a real read on geript while consenting to his lynch.

And Sandro, idk what you're doing because your geript read actually doesn't make sense to me anymore and it looks like you're just trying to push shitty lynches.

On May 31 2015 13:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
why did onegu die?

Pretty much means rsoul is 100% scum.

On May 28 2015 11:39 VayneAuthority wrote:


of course.. guess whos winning? lol

On June 02 2015 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like I really can see VA doing this shit as scum.
Really.

On May 25 2015 12:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
had to work dat overtime on a sunday. Instant pile on of NB is...interesting to say the least.

I know the holyflare kill here is a respect kill, but he was pretty much the only person willing to let NB slide with her claim. So either they just completely ignored that and killed him anyway if nb is mafia or this is an incorrect lynch.

If the former you would have to think about who might disregard everything and kill holyflare out of fear. I don't know the playerlist that well so unfortunately I can't really help there.

Anyone that has played with me knows I do not do fear kills, i make game kills so if it wasnt already obvious that i wasnt mafia well that should seal it up.

On May 25 2015 12:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
i dont really care about worthless claims like being a vet, it is unverifiable and unless we want to mass claim right now it is 100% useless info.

What is important is how nb basically held the game hostage for a short time and stalled on her claim and has been giving extremely vague maybe im a role maybe not hints. I don't know better then anyone else if its just some one overexcited at being a blue but its generally more mafia-ish play as it gives you outs.

My other reads were damdred who is bracketed against nb (dont think they are mafia together) and then i had a very mild scum/neural read on yamato who just got replaced.

Onegu/fuba could both easily be mafia. thats about it for me as of now

On May 25 2015 12:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
im going to keep our options open and vote for damdred again, hopefully one of them get lynched.

##vote damdred

On May 25 2015 13:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
a bit too tryhard meaning i am town i guess? It wouldnt make any sense for me to be tryhard as scum with no scum flip. that would mean the game is in control and i could just afkmeta to victory

On May 26 2015 12:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh fuba is mkfuba...probably town then. compare his early filter here to his early filters in these games.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/439654-a-quiet-game-of-mini-mafia?user=mkfuba07 - town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/432880-white-flag-mafia?user=mkfuba07 - mafia

both super short filters to illustrate a point, his tone and focus is quite different. As town he'll tend to get right into it and back posts without needing prompting, while as mafia he just responds to people directly and has a slightly different tone/way of typing. you could look at more games if you want but i think these are sufficient.

On May 27 2015 11:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
ok one of bunnies or fuba is definitely lying/scum if fuba legit claimed jailkeeper.

On June 02 2015 16:34 prplhz wrote:
wait

slam or va tomorrow