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On May 22 2015 07:26 Fecalfeast wrote: You're so smart wow how do you make reads so fast? I can't give away my meta read on ritoky, I thunk it applies this game though | ||
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But really rot is town and I'm town it's a good day in townville | ||
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On May 22 2015 07:48 rsoultin wrote: lol you're cute xP my post actually indicates that i find it interesting ff keyed in on damdred's read and not geript's reads if you want my opinion on the read on you lol you guys spout this soul read thing all the time, and damdy's not infallible (down under 2) ^^ all his read on you really indicates is that he probably isn't town!damdy townreading scum!ritoky and little else For the record I instantly called rit soon as I died. He will even attest to this | ||
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Not sure how I'm,boringyet | ||
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But on a serious note I fell asleep XD | ||
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However I have a goodly amount of town leans/reads so game isn't that bad so far. | ||
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Rsoultin Ritoky FF 27nb kinds got a on the verge tr on sand as well. And town lean on uou | ||
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The most interesting thing that I'm going to parrot I believe and wish would get more attention is the sudden flip of sand. While it's all well and good to agree with another read what's the point of,going through all,the motions that he put together with Geript to stop pushing just to sheep another case on 27nb. Which I'm actually pretty sure 27nb is town at this juncture, posts just read really naturally to me she's involved in almost everything in the thread amazing follow up and has a actual thoughts. Meta wise so different from scumbunnies to me at least. I'm not sure this makes sand mafia btw, I'm a bit torn while it's apparent that what he did was scummy he's posting so free and so much I still think he's town. It would be an amazing break to his meta to substation thus amount of posting for so long. | ||
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If you would rather say well it hast o be drug put of hi my hats a valid point not this he lied about sleeping. | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:49 Holyflare wrote: so it's totally interesting but maybe not mafiaish and that's all you got? :/ Don't be a stick in the mud and only cling to one thing hf. If That had all I had posted about I possibly could see but don't be like that | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:54 Holyflare wrote: yes but it's different when it kind of issssss the only thing you've actually talked more than a sentence about? although i don't know if you're mafia or not because i feel similar it's just weird to see it written out as your only real post so meh for now Hrm I think while true it'd my only large post of note with any thoughts you can follow I think it's a misrepresentation that it's my only thought that sand is interesting but not sure if Scum. In fact I still think,sand is a town lean presently but that is besides the point. The point is I even have other thoughts in that post that could be asked about and earlier posts with bare minimum content that people haven't tried toe engage me in at the large. So while it's a fair point at some level at another it isn't as well | ||
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Phone posting is difficult some days. If you would rather say that it is scummy that my reads had to be dragged out rather than given freely when I entered the thread. That would be a valid point | ||
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On May 23 2015 09:00 rsoultin wrote: mmm :/ damdy one read more impressive if damdy one read wasn't echoing a couple of others' (hf, mine, etc. etc.) reads on sandy...what had you reading ff town so early, damdy? (assuming the honest bunnies thing is the reason for the bunnies read; correct me if i'm wrong xP) Cause tone read and posting style early on. My bunnies read was in my post | ||
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On May 23 2015 09:16 rsoultin wrote: natural, honest, whaaaat's the diffeeeerence? xP a yes would suffice meh i know it's hypocritical cause i rely on tonereads all the time, but i can't follow up on tonereads lol >< Its not only that, simplifying a somewhat complex ready uninvolved tone meta into a yes and no answer isn't entirely fair or accurate. | ||
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Yamato is interesting in that when I sat down earlier he was in my Poe list that I was working on and is on the outskirts of town reads. He's just missing something for me that I can't put my finger on, usually when he's town I can just look and see the way his thoughts run. But here I have a harder time seeing that in some of his interactions, his anger towards sand I think it was felt a bit off and a little over the top for no reason. So real hesitation on my part now | ||
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I'll tell you updated read on rit when I get to his filter but from what I see he's still town. | ||
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Good morning though | ||
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Yamato why you do that to me, it makes me sad. I don't think,I was following thread sentiment though. I might actually get lynched its kinda exhilarating. | ||
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On May 23 2015 23:25 rsoultin wrote: it's not a point? it's a question? he was traitor last game, so i can't tell how much of what he said then was real or not lol >< I suppose the main thing is I'm wondering if you do think it's alignment indicative rather. I don't remember every game you played with Geript but I know you were in assassination and joat but not sure about town geript | ||
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I'm kinda at a strange spot I don't trust myself to read geript... Some of what he posted makes me think town that fight with sand was bad though. His other reads seem ok to a point though, the read on me even makes sense to an extent with how I've been posting. | ||
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On May 24 2015 00:21 rsoultin wrote: xP yes, i've already prodded him over the bunnies thing...and i hate it when people ignore me -_- @damdy honestly? lol >< i've learned not to expect much from onegu. he usually has a little more than absolutely nothing, but saying it over and over like he has been makes me inclined to lean town on him for shitty reasons? if you want to lynch him; i won't stop you but if you want to lynch someone other than geript i'd prefer yama or fuba if you're determined to plynch xP Like this isn't about expectations to a degree. O don't think oneg posts are coming from a town mindset here. Oneg is missing some of his inquisitive nature, crazy plays etc. But something that really caught my attention was the bunnies read. He changes it for No reason to my eyes, and then jeeps his vote in bunnies. Doesn't engage a anyone and is just existing in the thread without doing anything. | ||
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On May 24 2015 00:52 rsoultin wrote: eh -_- rereading his filter, you could be right? i just find it hard to believe that a scum onegu is this zzzzz when it's like his favorite role lol >< tbh Eh neat and tidy mafia and xxx night of debauchery probably would be the only examples of zzz suck onegu | ||
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However I,think it has merit. I just don't only want to talk about that. | ||
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On May 24 2015 02:05 geript wrote: Can you at least make one post that makes me hard before the end of the day? Probably not going to happen today still at work for 8 hours. However Fubas follow up post is kind of weird, says could lynch Yamato for over explaining his Geript vote when he did the same thing. And obviously he's just sheeping hf doesn't believe what he's saying... | ||
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Like oneg just isn't playing carefree has none of his usual town traits hasn't true to make any plays. Hos only read on 27nb followed thread sentiment to an extent and then basically for no reason he said he didn't have it anymore but continues voting for 27nb anyway. Nb hadn't done anything more than she had previously imo and didn't deserve the flip of you are hard Scum reading someone. Fuba had two really bad posts if,an remember. He super over explained his vote on Geript and doesn't even believe that Geript is Scum but is just a keeping to sheep. His next post h puts Scum on Yamato for over explaining his vote on geript? It's extremely hypocritical to an extent and he's not really Scum hunting being actively involved and jus hopping on a lynch and leaving | ||
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On May 24 2015 05:19 ritoky wrote: well i like the fuba read quite a bit. i was getting similar feels from him where he was just floating into lynches rather than actively seeking lynches on scum targets. plus i am a sucker for hypocrisy making people mafia. the onegu one. to me he is literally doing nothing all game long. for some people that is alignment indicative, for onegu i am not sure. i have seen him doing a whole lot of nothing as both alignments. you have a tone read there and you don't think nb did anything to alter his read, i don't have those same feels. i don't know if these should be the lynches today though, i think they should be high on the list tomorrow. i am interested as to why your focus fell here though. do you not like geript/nb/sandroba lynches? i am not used to you targeting inactives day 1 as either alignment. also you had a town read on FF, still have it? Firstly FF is really towny I think. He's one of the people I'm most sure of here. I don't think I like a 27nb lynch today, I liked her yesterday today it's been a bit worse but I don't think I would lynch today. Sand and Geript I'm not sure, sands absence is a bit worrying at this jubcture but I still think when he was in the thread the way he went about things I liked. I wouldn't lynch him today at All. Geript is a bit different. I think he's taken a lot of heat for inconsistencies in some of his reads and not trying to jeep up with things and just dropping them. However (here comes the pitchforks), I remember Geript doing almost exactly this as town before. Impeial mafia Geript got,lynched for some of the same things. His outbursts and spoke things remind me of alythern mafia where I pinged him out early as town (he was town). Some of the frustration and anger seem genuine. Granted there are problems with Geript I think hf pointed out things with merit. I kinda want to give him more time as I get better then longer I am in the game with him reading him. And Yea I generally don't go for lurkers early, unless something really sticks out to me. I caught gobble in a game he was lurking because I saw something that was scummy/caught,my attention. Fuba has caught my attention and wouldn't engage me. Even though hew as here | ||
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Rit how isn't he pushing things that are interesting to him forward? His case on me isn't that bad it's built around a meh event but it's applicable | ||
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Bah this is kinda hard | ||
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I disagree with it. I don't thunk ff not interacting on a specific subject makes him,scum at this point. He took a stance on what's important to him and tried to push it. He's townimo | ||
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Kinda Bothers me hf isn't here pushing | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:40 sandroba wrote: I don't understand what is funny. You said nb seemed honest in her posts and that's why she is town. I don't see that at all. Care to explain? Have our read the game | ||
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Geript why the sudden change on sand? What did he do to really change your mind | ||
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On May 24 2015 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote: oh wait scum damdred never placed a vote until the last minute? Oh yeah I bet that was a toal accident to post right at 15:00 If this isn't trolling that's so dumb ff. Considering I'm at work, but hey obviously you lied about falling asleep must be Scum | ||
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But the soft claim shouldn't be a determining factor because how it was done, it was super scummy way to try to save herself | ||
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But I just do it | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:09 prplhz wrote: holyflare: bunnies town geript scum choo choo proceeds to vote bunnies granted i didn't read from page 31 onwards but wtf Should read those pages.... | ||
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Perhaps should be I have a suspicion a very high suspicion. However if rather not make baseless claims and allegations before I read the game. But just from looking the pie atm is pretty simple. | ||
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HF was the player most likely to solve the game, he was arguably the best player alive he was generally town read and he might of been right on some things. Read his filter find the nuggets you can and ho from there. Also stop talking about roles its pretty bad and we should focus on discussing or forcing some of the lurkier players to give reads. Here's one I feel pretty comfortable with slam, VA is a bit to try hard from what I remember for a scum to not have flipped here | ||
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But it did look like she was lying or being a bit disingenuous with the talk with hf it didn't line up with what was going on in the thread at the time I believe from memory so after reading back it made me second guess where I was | ||
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On May 25 2015 12:54 rsoultin wrote: -squints- are you saying both slam and va, or talking to slam? o.0 Should of hit enter I suppose. I like slam. Va however is a bit to try hard for no scum flipping. | ||
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On May 25 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote: nah, i get that. but that was i dunnae maybe 30 mins before the lynch? i figured there was some sorta catalyst or something? at least, there should have been purely circumstantial I think, look at this way I think the people who were up for lynch were NB and geript. I definitely was less in live with lynching geript I was just an idiot with missing deadline. | ||
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Its part of the reason I think i'd rather not lynch NB today (and agree with hf assessment to save NB till last) if she is a role mafia is never going to shoot her last night anyway. They could potentially role block her due to the fear of being another role hiding, if anything they shoot her tonight since they can't rb twice in a row or wait till n3 and rb+shoot in case they are really scared of the vet being in the game. Either way HF is right and that we need to save NB to the last lynch, it forces mafia to shoot her at some point if she is a power role and we get to hunt mafia besides her and get information that way. I disagree with her claiming vet in the thread like she did, I wont' go over my idea of balance but it is what it is. But it is what it is and I don't think we should lynch her today. | ||
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On May 25 2015 13:50 rsoultin wrote: :/ sorry your weekend sucked? i linked picture of half-naked dancer lady? xD seriously, though, i don't understand your eod Probably wont' totally understand it, as I don't even remember what exactly I was thinking during it, it was a really tough end of day and I didn't know where I wanted my vote to go till very nearly eod and at that point my boss distracted me. I was torn between lynching Oneg/fuba and trying to push that angle and consolidating with the rest of the thread. At that point I felt like I couldn't really lynch into the oneg/fuba type players because of so many afk votes and our options were extremely limited I think between Geript and basically bunnies unless you moved about. So I had to decide to do my own thing or get the scummier person lynched, I thought it was bunnies | ||
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On May 25 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote: last post tonight i think since it's late and i appear to be talking to myself anyway xP i generally agree with this on principle, but i don't want to unvote her atm i also don't want to lynch va I'm not positive I want to lynch VA either atm either, I think Fuba/Oneg deserve closer attention maybe make them give reads and contribute a bit more. I'm pretty sure Ritoky is town here, Slam is townish(?), You are town Rsoultin, FF is still town to me even though i'm not sure what he did during the night. And I still have reasons to think sandroba is town. And Prp is sorta meta from what I remember o fhim this game so far. Kinda puts it into perspective that NB, Onegu, Fuba, VA So its not exactly a terrible place to start with currently. What do you think? (try to break that last posting by you rsoultin) | ||
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FF is just bad though and vastly dissapointed in him now | ||
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On May 26 2015 04:10 rsoultin wrote: -squints at- why are you trying to blow smoke up my ass? student v, linux, and those are just the ones off the top of my head; bullshit you enjoy getting lynched...lol unless you're referring to aperture and that definitely doesn't help your case xP Better than the alternative | ||
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Town atm Rsoultin Ritoky Slam FF Town leaning though I think he's wrong sandroba Believes claim NB BASICALLY I have a town read or lean on most of the game I keep debating sand in my head before I read his filter but I still think he's town before a reread. | ||
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But I'm not 100% on that | ||
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The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler + On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote: Good morning~ I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^ A few questions: 1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town. 2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote: [/spoiler]Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones... I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about. ##Vote geript Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. | ||
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He has no interest in hunting scum or being interested in the game and finding them. He had the information already. Oneg is in the same boat no plays no push, no real reads. There's nothing here he is scum | ||
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Yes I quite liked that point myself ff, the way he went about that post is quite strange to me. And idk what you mean I always play. Do I play well all the time, nope but its just trying to get to that consistent point of being ok all the time and great sometimes. I feel kinda strong about the dubs lynch. However lets get me out of the way while I can get your questions thoughts to me so we don't lynch town today | ||
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Ty for the game hts and really good job rs hard carrying like this | ||
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