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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 14 2015 21:01 GMT
#2081
VisceraEyes, which role did you claim?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 14 2015 21:02 GMT
#2082
On May 15 2015 06:01 Trfel wrote:
VisceraEyes, which role did you claim?

Day-Vig.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 14 2015 21:02 GMT
#2083
I shot Xatalos.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 14 2015 21:02 GMT
#2084
On May 15 2015 05:52 KelsierSC wrote:
HTS here is my thoughts on Obi so far

- contributed nothing to the game, filter reads like a lot of one liners.

- quick to shoot town town reads or throw suspicion on people.

Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 14:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 14 2015 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sweet.

Anyway, the mafiateam already know so I'll just say it. Marv made a mason group on D1 with me and Palmar in it. Unless you think marv mafia recruiting mason invited a mafia teammate into the group in Palmar, then marv is pretty much lock-clear town. That doesn't make me town or anything, but I can assure you I'm town and I /think/ marv would vouch for me.

Marv is like confirmed town, or should be imo.


Marv is not confirmed town.

I literally JUST lost a game because people went on about suboptimal masoning in regards to masoning two mafia together, when for all we know a mason link doesn't even exist.

This is entirely wifom.


Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 10:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Terrible switch to Vivax that really shouldn't have happened. Just because you read Marv as town doesn't mean you should just up and sheep him whenever he shows up ITT. He said he was stoned and he basically switched off of BH for no reason.

On May 13 2015 09:51 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm still in the world where BH is town, his posting EOD and his decision with the nuke, town to me.

I still think Xat is mafia so that is going to be where I look in the night, xatalos was a real lynch but it never quite got there and the lynch ended up between vivax and BH, i need to know how that happened.

If BH is town and we know vivax is town then you know i'm more looking at people who wanted the lynch not to be xat or who just seemed happy to sit where they were,

off the top of my head, I'd look at these people tomorrow
Xat
JAT
TD
LS
Rs

i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case.

then I also think it is important to consider the people who didn't give a shit EOD and seemed to float under the radar
bats
RoL
obi

palmars play was really weird aswell just leaving his vote out on sand when that was never really going to be the lynch.

I also don't see stutters vote so I'm not sure what is happening with that.

I will look through things more closely during the night phase but that is where I am at right now.



Why do people think this guy is town? He just name dropped more than a third of the game without any real sense of direction or context and just made almost all of them seem suspicious. It's an incredibly unfocused post and reeks of mafia casting doubt.


- then i remembered this awful post

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 12 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote:
On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own.

The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not.


Beautiful.

Back to townpile with you.


so that is why I didn't like him, I saw he was in the thread with his "kill jat" but he wasn't really posting or contributing in a meaningful way that I could see, I thought i'd call him mafia to see his response,


His response disappointed me, he instantly popped up so he was in the thread and rather than contributing just wants to know why he is mafia, ok that is understandable, but him now voting me and calling me mafia just seems like a huge overreaction. Again he isn't interested in truly scum hunting just hugely overreacting to someone calling him mafia.

Think i might be right on this one.


>Quick townreads.
>Calls people suspicious.
>Isn't contributing.

You can't just say someone isn't contributing while saying their contributions are bad. The fact that my posts are small or one-liners is completely irrelevant.

Why are my quick townreads suspicious?
Why is my calling people suspicious suspicious in and of itself?
Where am I not contributing in my posts?

Your case is basically just a bunch of contradictions and buzzwords.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 14 2015 21:05 GMT
#2085
In more relevant events, I'd say that Onegu ignoring LS's claim and trying to lynch him anyway is a spectacular reason to lynch him.
Retired.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 14 2015 21:08 GMT
#2086
On May 15 2015 06:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In more relevant events, I'd say that Onegu ignoring LS's claim and trying to lynch him anyway is a spectacular reason to lynch him.



I just told you why you shouldnt believe his claim...
Try TL Mafia!!!
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 14 2015 21:09 GMT
#2087
On May 15 2015 06:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In more relevant events, I'd say that Onegu ignoring LS's claim and trying to lynch him anyway is a spectacular reason to lynch him.



I just told you why you shouldnt believe his claim...


Your reasoning is really dumb tbh. He might be mimicking his town meta so he's mafia? What if he's just town? How do you tell the difference?
Retired.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 14 2015 21:09 GMT
#2088
On May 15 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 05:52 KelsierSC wrote:
HTS here is my thoughts on Obi so far

- contributed nothing to the game, filter reads like a lot of one liners.

- quick to shoot town town reads or throw suspicion on people.

On May 14 2015 14:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 14 2015 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sweet.

Anyway, the mafiateam already know so I'll just say it. Marv made a mason group on D1 with me and Palmar in it. Unless you think marv mafia recruiting mason invited a mafia teammate into the group in Palmar, then marv is pretty much lock-clear town. That doesn't make me town or anything, but I can assure you I'm town and I /think/ marv would vouch for me.

Marv is like confirmed town, or should be imo.


Marv is not confirmed town.

I literally JUST lost a game because people went on about suboptimal masoning in regards to masoning two mafia together, when for all we know a mason link doesn't even exist.

This is entirely wifom.


On May 13 2015 10:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Terrible switch to Vivax that really shouldn't have happened. Just because you read Marv as town doesn't mean you should just up and sheep him whenever he shows up ITT. He said he was stoned and he basically switched off of BH for no reason.

On May 13 2015 09:51 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm still in the world where BH is town, his posting EOD and his decision with the nuke, town to me.

I still think Xat is mafia so that is going to be where I look in the night, xatalos was a real lynch but it never quite got there and the lynch ended up between vivax and BH, i need to know how that happened.

If BH is town and we know vivax is town then you know i'm more looking at people who wanted the lynch not to be xat or who just seemed happy to sit where they were,

off the top of my head, I'd look at these people tomorrow
Xat
JAT
TD
LS
Rs

i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case.

then I also think it is important to consider the people who didn't give a shit EOD and seemed to float under the radar
bats
RoL
obi

palmars play was really weird aswell just leaving his vote out on sand when that was never really going to be the lynch.

I also don't see stutters vote so I'm not sure what is happening with that.

I will look through things more closely during the night phase but that is where I am at right now.



Why do people think this guy is town? He just name dropped more than a third of the game without any real sense of direction or context and just made almost all of them seem suspicious. It's an incredibly unfocused post and reeks of mafia casting doubt.


- then i remembered this awful post

On May 12 2015 02:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 12 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote:
On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own.

The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not.


Beautiful.

Back to townpile with you.


so that is why I didn't like him, I saw he was in the thread with his "kill jat" but he wasn't really posting or contributing in a meaningful way that I could see, I thought i'd call him mafia to see his response,


His response disappointed me, he instantly popped up so he was in the thread and rather than contributing just wants to know why he is mafia, ok that is understandable, but him now voting me and calling me mafia just seems like a huge overreaction. Again he isn't interested in truly scum hunting just hugely overreacting to someone calling him mafia.

Think i might be right on this one.


>Quick townreads.
>Calls people suspicious.
>Isn't contributing.

You can't just say someone isn't contributing while saying their contributions are bad. The fact that my posts are small or one-liners is completely irrelevant.

Why are my quick townreads suspicious?
Why is my calling people suspicious suspicious in and of itself?
Where am I not contributing in my posts?

Your case is basically just a bunch of contradictions and buzzwords.


I don't think there is value in debating with YOU over whether or not your posts are scummy, I gave reasons to the thread why I didn't like your posting and your contribution or lack of contribution to the game. This led me to ping you out

I then think your reaction to me calling you out was terrible. Again you are being overly defensive here. It is up to others to consider the case laid out against you.

--

so bat's role is VT and he is using pleb as a way to check if people are town or not?

I don't know what to make of TD after this revelation I need to check it out

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 14 2015 21:11 GMT
#2089
TD can you go through the order you recruited people into the mason chat and also why you selected them?
Zerg for Life
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 14 2015 21:13 GMT
#2090
lol dude

There is enough information to solve the game already.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 14 2015 21:16 GMT
#2091
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD
I'm adorable.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:17 GMT
#2092
On May 13 2015 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
TOWN
21. VisceraEyes
1. marvellosity
3. GlowingBear
4. Trfel
5. sandroba
6. Half the Sky
8. yamato77
11. rsoultin
18. KelsierSC
19. TalkingDead
14. Blazinghand
17. Damdred
23. Vivax
24. Stutters695

MAFIA
2. Onegu
7. Xatalos
9. batsnacks
12. Oatsmaster
15. RebirthOfLeGenD
20. Palmar

IDONTKNOW
10. ObiWanShinobi
13. LightningStrike
16. Bill Murray
22. justanothertownie

This is where I'm at currently. As for my mafia list, Onegu and Xata are pretty much either/or...if one of them is mafia, the other probably is not. They've both done things I would classify as scummy, but Xata was going on and on about Onegu being the Traitor and voted for him (uselessy) D1. I...don't think they do that as mafia/mafia.

Batsnacks is pretty straight-forward. I mentioned earlier how he came into the game early on spouting nonsense, and then when he came back he pretended to have contributions (Sandroba is mafia, but I can't tell you why because ROOOOLLEEEE).

Oatsmaster is more of a tone read. As town I feel like Oats gives fewer fucks what people say and think, and in this game he seems to care a great deal what people think.

RoL is probably mafia because of his repeated promises to contribute and then lack of following through. I think he does this as either alignment, but as town he actually has content in his few bouts of activity. This game we get ZERO content. It reminds me very much of his play in Storm, where he was AFK mafia.

Palmar is just fun to lynch, but I also think he's probably mafia here too. His case on sandroba is laughably bad (in that it ignores the fact that sandroba is capable of everything Palmar is accusing him of as town, and meta-wise sandroba is like never mafia this game) and his responses to people calling it bad are bad (marv is mafia?!?!?!).

Everyone on my town list is there because they're active in the game and seem to be obviously trying to figure it out. My order isn't important (I think most of it is in order of the playerlist) but I moved myself to the top for obvious reasons.

If you're in my IDONTKNOW list then you should probably do something about that before tomorrow.

On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count:


Vivax (8) - BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster,
Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike
Rsoultin (1) - Onegu
Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend
Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks
BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear,

I think I missed some of this a bit earlier. I think I'd rather give Batsnacks a pass than RoL. Both Batsnacks and Palmer voting together on Sandroba as mafia is really, really unlikely. RoL has basically done nothing this game yet is magically right on Palmer; that feels far more bussy to me than not. Onegu and LS aren't bad targets based on them both being smart enough to not throw away their votes. That said, Stutters/Kelsier/Oats/OWS/Trfel/Xatalos are the next people I'd look at.

My reserve on Xatalos (having re-filtered him yet) is that the way things look, no mafia were up for the D1 lynch and rather mafia could just freely organize wherever semi-naturally without having to fear about losing one of their own.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:21 GMT
#2093
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

very little, TD was the one influencing me and VE was away
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#2094
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

He was just pretty certain about Vivax being mafia...nothing outside his normal parameters imo. Frankly though, considering his target got lynched he didn't really HAVE to do anything, at least in my QT, regardless of his alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#2095
On May 15 2015 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

He was just pretty certain about Vivax being mafia...nothing outside his normal parameters imo. Frankly though, considering his target got lynched he didn't really HAVE to do anything, at least in my QT, regardless of his alignment.

note ^ not at EoD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 14 2015 21:23 GMT
#2096
On May 15 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

He was just pretty certain about Vivax being mafia...nothing outside his normal parameters imo. Frankly though, considering his target got lynched he didn't really HAVE to do anything, at least in my QT, regardless of his alignment.

note ^ not at EoD

Yeah I wasn't around at EoD obviously, evidenced by my no-vote.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#2097
so scummy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#2098
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

For the most part, Marv made his points but he was happy to let Damdred and I do whatever we felt was best. He was fine with me waiting to join BH so I could watch how votes/wagons formed and he was interested in the Vivax thing despite being high.

Damdred and Marv I picked because I feel like I can read him well and he's a really strong player. Damdred I didn't think woudl try to figure out (or out if he knew) my smurf and Marv wouldn't either as he hates when his smurfs are outed.

Yamato I picked because he's a strong player that I wanted connected in the mason chain.
Rsoultin I picked because I didn't think she had much experience with QT play from both sides and would be easier to get a read on in direct contact

I was going to pick Sandroba and Rsoultin, but Marv wanted to grab Sandroba and he knows Sandroba much better than I do so it was fine.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#2099
22/60

On May 15 2015 06:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In more relevant events, I'd say that Onegu ignoring LS's claim and trying to lynch him anyway is a spectacular reason to lynch him.



I just told you why you shouldnt believe his claim...


....and I've just told you why your reasoning in of itself does not particularly make him mafia. I just gave an example of my own where he plays suboptimally as both alignments and him not taking your advice, my advice on things does not make him mafia.

So you either need to build a stronger case, or find another candidate for scum. Focusing on 1-2 scum at a time isn't going to save you as you're the leading wagon nor am I buying that argument for you not continually scumhunting.

The chances of you two double bussing as both mafia I'd say are low so if I had to pick a mafia from both of you, I'd say you over him. Given both of your respective gameplaying though I'd highly doubt it's town on town.

Also fairly confident Xatalos was scum, so him pushing LS as an easy lynch was plausible (yeah unflipped association, yeah I know...).

KSC, now that we know BH was flipped, go to the case that TD made on BH. Does anything strike you as potentially off? I am assuming you are more experienced playing with BH than I am.

As for Obi...he always posts one-liners and he doesn't bleed town as either alignment to be fair. His WIFOM post can come as either alignment. Don't agree with his post on you, you just gave a purposes where to start looking post-lynch.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#2100
On May 15 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD

very little, TD was the one influencing me and VE was away

I'll take that as a major compliment.
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