Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal

On March 23 2015 23:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
/in
Turns out I might not be as busy as I thought.
I'll give it a shot.

On March 25 2015 05:23 Blazinghand wrote:


See any time someone tries to talk about my RNG and brings up random.org I know they don't actually know how my RNG works.

On March 25 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:

I have great respect for you for this, VE. I'd rather a game filled with people like you than a game filled with people who misunderstand my RNG, even if they agree with me.

On March 25 2015 05:34 Blazinghand wrote:

FWIW in a big themed setup like this RNG lynch isn't actually a good idea. Ideal scenarios for RNG lynch are like, cell games, or smallish multifactional games. Minis can be ok since we're bad at D1 lynches in minis. Big normals, maybe. But a big themed game like this? too many roles involved for RNG to be legit as a straight-out-the-gate suggestion.

On March 25 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote:
I'm glad this discussion is happening pregame and not actually during D1 with 20 people talking about it.

VE gets my vote just for this.

On March 25 2015 11:57 GreYMisT wrote:


You don't own me

On March 25 2015 07:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Your gossip flows like water. I am the mighty salmon that swims against the stream. I defy you.

On March 28 2015 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
I promise not to lynch anyone who votes me.

:D

On March 28 2015 09:37 Keirathi wrote:

Scum #2

2/X down. X-2 to go.

On March 28 2015 09:40 sicklucker wrote:


you know you just voted him for mayor right?

On March 28 2015 09:44 Keirathi wrote:

I already found 2 scum. What more do you want from me!?

On March 28 2015 10:48 justanothertownie wrote:

About time he rngs himself the first time.

On March 28 2015 10:49 sicklucker wrote:


People dont respect my town game im never a nk

On March 28 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:


get out of my head xP

On March 29 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:


voting me to cull koshi and hapa

On March 29 2015 00:56 Holyflare wrote:


i don't lynch ve's!

On March 29 2015 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:

I wouldn't trust this either.

On March 29 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:

Exactly.

On March 29 2015 03:18 batsnacks wrote:


1) I think the best, and towniest, way to deal with that post by VE is to ignore it. That is such an easy call out I don't even consider it a call out.
2) How do you know he's never played scum before? Someone else I forget who said he plays on another site. I doubt he's never rolled scum if he plays forum mafia on two different sites. Even if he has literally never played scum this is wifom.

.01% chance he's scum? Why do you feel like you need to exaggerate?

On March 29 2015 06:14 Onegu wrote:

Will you vote for me? Will give you something during the night if you do I am a salesman afterall

On March 29 2015 06:15 Keirathi wrote:
Yea, that post is crap.

Why is BH town? Why is Hapa town? Why is Sepulchre town?

Why are any of those people scum?

Why are you just making a baseless list post that does absolutely nothing for the game? :o

On March 29 2015 06:23 ExO_ wrote:


Yeah I got a question. Why in the world did you put me in the could lynch today? I've been asleep but I was trying to be helpful when I was awake. It just didn't seem like anybody besides HF/Rsoultin/Keirathi was really being super active.

For that matter why are any of these people on the list? I get that SL is kinda a wild card but the rest I have no idea. Did you draw names out of a hat?

On March 29 2015 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:

This. Me posting about Keirathi was as much a joke as him calling me mafia was (I think). That he calls me out for it doesn't make him town at all, and in fact makes him look like he's trying to find just anything to call out.

Like, I never claimed to be this beacon of towniness this game, and he's all "What makes you any better?".....nothing? I never said I was any better than Keirathi, I said I wasn't voting for him for the reasons I gave.

On March 29 2015 14:03 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa SEEMS lynchable... idk.

Hapa why?!

On March 29 2015 14:48 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I have yet to explain why I want to lynch you, or to update my read, so it's a bit presumptive to post as you've been.

Hm.

On March 29 2015 21:38 Chezitwo wrote:

The Bank has no use for Greymist points

On March 30 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote:


despite lack of anything towny but want him d2...?

On March 30 2015 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
My issue with snarfs is the really "pro-town" intro post with a complete lack of followup with regard to actually finding mafia and deciding on a lynch target as a town. Like, his whole thing was "I want a Warrior who will lynch according to the majority decision" but has opted out of discussing who actually IS mafia or who SHOULD be lynched today, all day.

On March 30 2015 02:42 batsnacks wrote:


Why not lynch exo who is pretty much the same minus any kind of pro-town intro post?

On March 30 2015 02:44 kitaman27 wrote:
For the record, I still welcome any and all votes to send me on an adventure.

On March 30 2015 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
do you think greymist would put a role in that limits someones ability to post and makes them not able to talk about it?

On March 30 2015 02:47 Damdred wrote:
VE you tempt me sir....

On March 30 2015 02:49 kitaman27 wrote:


Eh from your list I'm towny on three, towny-null on one, and null on the remaining two so if by sick you mean vomit inducing then I guess you're technically correct.

On March 30 2015 02:52 Chezitwo wrote:

I hear we're allowed to privately communicate when dusk falls.

On March 30 2015 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely do not want koshi as a rogue though that's just the biggest liability in the history of mafia

On March 30 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
im voting rsoul already

On March 30 2015 03:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


If we don't elect HF, who do we elect?

On March 30 2015 05:01 ritoky wrote:


VE why are you not begging me to give you free stuff?

I feel like you would be all about getting free stuff as town.

On March 30 2015 05:03 ritoky wrote:


I mean all you gotta do is tell me why you're town and I will consider giving you shit.

On March 30 2015 05:04 yamato77 wrote:

I fixed that real quick

On March 30 2015 05:06 kitaman27 wrote:


Aside from the difficulty with figuring him out, are you saying he is not a good person to bounce ideas off of if he is indeed town?



Wait...I....uhhh......I never said that was a scum list. Maybe you're about to win a prize? Please don't leave me

On March 30 2015 05:08 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why VE is town? I am not saying he is mafia. Just tell me what he is.

On March 30 2015 05:08 Chezitwo wrote:

I might say that kitaman is one of very few players I think might try to pull that off as mafia.

On March 30 2015 05:12 Keirathi wrote:

VE is reasonably likely to be town. He "cares" more about people calling him town when he's town than when he's mafia. When he's mafia he just ignores people calling him out and does his own thing.

On March 30 2015 05:14 ritoky wrote:
VE called me a bitch, when I offered him free stuff, he is town

who on this list should I remove to put VE on?

town:
ritoky
rsoul
ls
sl
yamato
hapa
batsnacks
onegu
kita
koshi

On March 30 2015 05:17 Blazinghand wrote:
ok I'm back and there's 50 more pages. I really am not a fan of all this reading guys so I'm just not gonna do it

looks like lead mayoral candidates are hf, ritoky (who has a deal with rsoultin judging by voting), and VE and Koshi. since I'm lazy anyoen want to tell me what the platforms are?

On March 30 2015 05:19 Keirathi wrote:

If I'm 100% mafia, why don't you want to lynch me?

On March 30 2015 05:20 Keirathi wrote:

100% implies you're sure you're not wrong though!

On March 30 2015 06:54 kitaman27 wrote:


Was this by choice or were you tied to BH via the mod? If you did choose to tie yourself to him, please explain your reasoning.

On March 30 2015 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Where did HF go?....He passes on the mayorship and choice of lynch to support rsoul, a player who wants to lynch his null read.

On March 30 2015 07:16 Chezitwo wrote:

You scare me about as much as something extremely unscary.

Like a pink, inanimate, fluffy mouse, for example.

On March 30 2015 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:

I obviously don't. What I see so far is you voting VE who isn't very towny for our adventuring party and as far as I understand your reason for this is that BH who also isn't very towny did so too.

On March 30 2015 07:24 justanothertownie wrote:

Do something towny and I will townread you. Being towny is so much more than being there and posting some irrelevant shit!

On March 30 2015 07:33 Alakaslam wrote:

You know what?

Fuck it.

Lynch BH.

Lose the warrior.

Lose me.

On March 30 2015 07:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Gotta step out for about 15 min. Voting HF in the unlikely event that I won't be back in time and will make my final decision once slam comes clean.

On March 30 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:

Why would you vote HF right now...

On March 30 2015 07:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Man, I'm bout ready to just give up and let it happen.

On March 30 2015 07:51 Keirathi wrote:

Wasn't GreYMisT a scum role in the last Aperture?

On March 30 2015 07:59 Blazinghand wrote:
wait, I can block jat! hehuehuheue

##unvote
##vote VE

On this night phase sometime kitaman27 wrote:
...some nonsense about me being a hypocrite

On March 31 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
don't think i'd ever get into power if i was playing even remotely scummy + i'm actually scum hunting

On March 31 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
not imo, i'd be tunnelling on stupid shit and be all up in someones face and not trying to get a big picture of the game

either way, i'm 3p survivor so let's just drop it and find mafia k? you can check me if you wish i don't care

On March 31 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
the only other ones i told were my actual town reads

On March 31 2015 02:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
But wait if I was a town read of yours (which you did hint at since you said you didn't really think I was scum) why did you let the thread perpetuate suspicion to the point of further demotivating me?

On March 31 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
the only other ones i told were my actual town reads

On March 31 2015 02:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


ahahaha

On March 31 2015 02:41 justanothertownie wrote:

Don't lie to him you cruel bastard. This isn't the first time in this game you laugher about him.

On March 31 2015 02:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE what about pork chops?
If you use all your salt on those you'll have none left

On March 31 2015 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:


I find this believable and probably evidence HtS is town. I'm gonna lay it out and say Scum is very unlikely to forget that I'm a cop

On March 31 2015 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

Words cannot express the depth of my disbelief in your claim of being a cop.

On March 31 2015 03:50 Blazinghand wrote:

you really think I fakeclaimed a role with 2 counterparts? what kind of insane player would do that?

...hmm, actually that IS the kind of thing I'd do as scum. Then I'd laugh at all the newbs in post game for believing me. gah

On March 31 2015 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Yep. Sent roleclaims to Koshi, Holyflare, JAT, Chezitwo, and Kita.

That's really all I have to say about the matter. I was planning to do a re-readthrough of the game before deadline, but I just don't have the focus or the willpower to do it. If you think that's me mafia claiming, you should lynch me tomorrow so you don't have questions later on during the game.

If I am somehow alive by Night 3, my role allows me to kill myself for some chaotic town fun, which is an option I will be taking if I get there.

Until then, my contributions will be briefly keeping up with the thread and sheeping people that I think are making sense. If you want more explanations for why I don't feel motivated, feel free to PM me. I would rather not bog down the thread with such stuff.

On March 31 2015 04:01 justanothertownie wrote:

Explain.

On March 31 2015 04:02 yamato77 wrote:
If people want my thoughts on the game I'll talk in PMs.

On March 31 2015 04:03 Koshi wrote:
He calls me shit and wants to lynch me when I don't play.
when hapa doesn't want to play he is pming me to spare hapa.

FUCKING QDFQSFQSDFQSDFQSDFQSDF SHIT MAYOR IS MAFIA.

I FUCKING BLAME ALL OF YOU.

On March 31 2015 03:58 Koshi wrote:

The reason I called you genius is because you said something smart about me and then about somebody else as well. And then when I saw your filter and that giant list I thought you could be mafia.

But there is some serious humor in your filter and you are focusing on people I am not focusing on. So you might be my homeless counterpart.

On March 31 2015 04:13 justanothertownie wrote:

I hate to break it to you but this is what Koshi does.

On March 31 2015 04:18 Snarfs wrote:

No, my thoughts on Damdred have not changed.

I've been leaning scum on hapa because of his case on Trfel. He seemed like a target people were already leaning scum towards and hapa's contribution was underwhelming but very wordy.

VE, leaning mafia. I expected him to push his scum reads to try to determine their reactions/motivations but despite the fact that we've both been active in thread today he's made no effort to engage me.

On March 31 2015 04:20 Blazinghand wrote:
We should lynch koshi even though there's no particular reason he's mafia

On March 31 2015 04:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Snarfs may not be scum either. He has a very self centric view of his reads and how they interact with him specifically which reads towny to me.

On March 31 2015 04:22 yamato77 wrote:

I'm working on people I think aren't being talked about much, keirathi up next

On that note, HTS seems townish. Nothing glaring in that filter.

Also, I know I'm on some people's shit lists but my role really only works well if I know other people's roles, so if I could be somehow given some information about important actions taking place and the results of those actions tomorrow, that would be cool.

On March 31 2015 04:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

Killing is killing.

VE what happened to us?

<\3

On March 31 2015 04:31 justanothertownie wrote:

I really don't get why you are so angry?

On March 31 2015 04:32 Snarfs wrote:

Could these actions not also be described by someone who was away during the weekend but wanted to get town started out on the right foot?

On March 31 2015 04:34 VisceraEyes wrote:

They could, but your actions when you returned were not congruent with that explanation.

On March 31 2015 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:

??????

On March 31 2015 04:44 justanothertownie wrote:

I know.

On March 31 2015 04:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


It was supposed to be a secret.

On March 31 2015 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
HtS SEEMS townie but I get a REAAALLY cautious feel in general from filter.

On March 31 2015 09:54 kitaman27 wrote:
People voting VA should be explaining their vote, rather than assuming marv checked him.

On March 31 2015 09:55 kitaman27 wrote:


Because he didn't say he was checking him at any point.

On March 31 2015 13:12 kitaman27 wrote:


....we have a player who hasn't claimed to JAT?!

I'm totally going to get to him before you.

On March 31 2015 16:22 rsoultin wrote:


is keir scared of me too i promise i don't bite...much lololol

On March 31 2015 22:53 Koshi wrote:

How? Really. How?

On March 31 2015 23:15 Koshi wrote:

I still don't get how it doesn't make him mafia. The longer he lives the more he can use it. And the roles are fake anyway. Or not. Nobody cares. Just telling people your role and tell them you are too depressed to play and want to do sudoku using your role N4 is just fucking sadness incorporated. Hapa is so demotivated that he 150 hours from now knows he will suicide?

hahaha.

no.

Kill with fire.

Piss on his grave if he is town.

On April 01 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Or at least to randomize the whole item delivery. That's what I have been suspecting for a while now.

On April 01 2015 02:51 justanothertownie wrote:

BH is some kind of cop he only receives the results of 2 other cops together with his own.

On April 01 2015 12:23 Keirathi wrote:

He said that he got to choose his own kill flavor.

On April 01 2015 12:25 Crossfire99 wrote:

Ask rsoultin. I told her my kill flavor beforehand. I told her immolation on the pyre, but changed it after that to immolation upon the altar because that sounds cooler lol.

On April 01 2015 12:29 Keirathi wrote:

I'm kind of confused where you're going with this?

Are you suggesting that it's possible that he is scum, got one of his teammates to shoot him, then claimed that he made up the kill flavor to disguise that he was killed by someone?

Because if that's not what you're suggesting, then I'm not following.

On April 01 2015 12:30 Crossfire99 wrote:

Read the thread please. I answered this like twice already.

On April 01 2015 09:29 Crossfire99 wrote:

The things I noticed is that Keirathi actually did work looking at my meta to determine if I would bus. He legit did the work there because I remembered the stuff he was talking about. Whether he would do that work as mafia idk.

Sep also seemed to care about my flipped role and seemed to care about it as is so it seemed like he believed it. Outside of that I'm not too sure.

On April 01 2015 08:32 Crossfire99 wrote:
Feels great to be alive. No, seriously. I'm Strong Bad, and you don't know it yet, but I'm the reason you're here. Check me out! No, seriously, check me out.



You all already seem to know of the existence of Strong Bad. I am he. Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. My breadcrumb is my first post.



If you think the crumb is that I typed gibberish because I wear boxing gloves, you'd be forgiven for thinking so, but you're wrong. I obviously can answer emails fine while using my hands because I don't take my hands off. Sheesh. The real bread crumb is the bolded part, the fhqwhgads. Click it to see the reference.

Anyways, my ability was to fake my own death and choose the role name, abilities, alignment and flavor text of the fake death me. For the next 24 hrs after fake death I cannot post or be targeted or do anything. After 24 hours a host will announce me as alive. Seeing as how this ability is very weird, I had to think of an inventive way to use it. So I did.

I chose a random role, abilities, and flavor, but made it so that I flip mafia. Since I am town, being flipped as mafia will cause confusion. Mafia will know that I'm not mafia because I'm not in their qt. They won't know what is going on and will be unsure of how to proceed with their reads and how to treat connections with me and how to analyze my reads. Everyone else will not care about that and just assume that I am actually mafia. When I actually return to the thread I will be able to point out who had weird reads regarding me after my death. That was the goal at least. Unfortunately, pms were allowed today which means I don't have many reactions to go over lol. Hopefully people will have gotten stuff in pms that they can bring forward.

Feel free to ask me whatever questions you want. Right now I don't know a lot of what is happening because it is all happening in pm land, so feel free to pm me because I want to chat.

Oh, I also had another ability that would allow me to give one person the ability to PM once during the day. I could then respond in kind, just like how Strong Bad answers emails. Anyway I used it day one to try to better interact with Hapa. He just said hi, I asked him why he was playing that way and told him to respond in thread. Looks like I was wrong and he just really didn't have time to play. T_T

On April 01 2015 12:46 Crossfire99 wrote:

Did you actually read my stuff? "Unfortunately, pms were allowed today which means I don't have many reactions to go over lol. Hopefully people will have gotten stuff in pms that they can bring forward." So I went over the reactions I could. It's not my fault pms were allowed. The result was not what I wanted and think my ploy failed in the results honestly, but the reason for it was not my fault lol.

On April 02 2015 00:53 Koshi wrote:

the PMs for example is also why he is mafia. He is lighthearted about not tryharding, but then is overdramatizing the PMs.

I don't know who exactly complained about the PMs but except for rsoultin and maybe kita nothing special is happening there that is hurtful for town. I am reading the thread and almost didn't PM and I can follow just fine. I am not missing anything.

On April 02 2015 01:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Proposed plan:

Trfel claims 3p with the ability to enact a 1:1 bonus lynch dual for the following day cycle. Town should agree on a target and request Trfel to use said lynch on target player. If he refuses to cooperate with town, we kill him off. Worst case, mafia has to waste a roleblock on a claimed 3p.

Thoughts?

On April 02 2015 01:41 yamato77 wrote:

#mafiastrats

On April 02 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:


-flicks- dude i'm not interested in getting into a pointless shitfight

which does happen to be a scum tell for you...i've seen it in all your scum games. stop while you're ahead

On April 02 2015 03:25 rsoultin wrote:


don't care about your willies?

would you rather me sit here and argue for pages with HF? cause that's where this thing goes otherwise

On April 02 2015 03:29 rsoultin wrote:


lead by example

i've put thoughts out. not my problem you're not paying attention

you know what. forget this

i said i'd put something out when i was finished going through things, you guys continue to be stubborn fools about it, so i'm just going to ignore the thread until i'm done ^^

have fun

On April 02 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote:


i was only making a snide comment at your sillyness, not really an arguement?

On April 03 2015 10:34 Blazinghand wrote:
Whatever, Damdred's a fine lynch, but he's no VA. We've had a redcheck on VA. We have a redcheck on VA. I don't have energy for this. I can't even convince you with a case on VA's play because VA's towngame is to do nothing and be useuless, as I found out.

On April 03 2015 14:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't know why we're presuming that the Sherlock 3 are 1/1/1.

On April 04 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:

What happened to this?

On April 04 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:

I got to it. I wanna lynch VA/BH.