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On April 10 2015 06:03 Half the Sky wrote: Think you're nr 3 Bourneq, how does it feel to be playing in your first game at TL? Its my first ever not just outside TL. I am mostly doing it to up my post count like everybody else. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:07 Half the Sky wrote: ........ Is that crickets I hear chirping? Bah, I must have scared him away. Anyone else around? I am on a crappy phone and watching a movie so it just takes a while | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:08 Half the Sky wrote: Have you played in other formats? Video, IRC? Real life? There's a bit of talk about video mafia around here, but unfortunately the times they have it are not EU friendly. My only experiance is watching ryuzilla and trump on twitch playing it. Looked like a blast! | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote: Well you're in for a treat if this really is first time ever for you, but there always has to be a first time for everything ![]() That said, what do you think of prplhz's comment? Which one? | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:16 Half the Sky wrote: EBWOP at Bourneq - specifically this: Sorry again the phone.. It does not help me gain any information of any kind so I am not bothered. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:21 Half the Sky wrote: Not even a tone read? The comment leaves no impression you whatsoever? I could not hear his tone over the internet. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:25 Half the Sky wrote: Okay, I think you could be taking me too literally. Let's try it this way. When I mention "tone read" does the fact that he's asking us this question, what does it make you think of him? That's what I am trying to ask. It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion. | ||
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On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote: ##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote: because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. | ||
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On April 10 2015 08:41 Breshke wrote: What do you think of the other people who have placed votes? The vote on Ace1312 seemed mafia as hell seing he has not even made an introduction so what is the point of throwing such an early vote on somebody who is not here to drive a discussion? The vote on plotspot was weird but he defended him self by throwing insults at a new player which makes me think poorly on him in general. The vote on Onegu seems stupid from a mafia perspective tho as he is playing very poorly so I dont know where I stand on plotspot. | ||
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You did not know to vote in this thread and you edited one of your posts. Thats why i said you were playing poorly. Or what is the huh? about? | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:15 Onegu wrote: Lol, but he still hasn't said why I am playing bad... I take that back! | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:24 Half the Sky wrote: I'm interpreting the alphabetical vote as a joke vote - or NAI. I have seen it happen a few times in some of the newbie games. I know it has happened in Carol, and happened in Student IV. Why make a joke vote? Seems to me like its just going to drive the conversation in a confusing direction. | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:35 Half the Sky wrote: I'm not sure I agree with this. I didn't like his entrance or his opening at all. I need to take a closer look at his filter. Scumreads so far on Bourneq and prplhz (pending filter recaps) and BD. Townleans on Soren, Onegu. Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum? | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:28 Breshke wrote: What are those weak arguments and explain where he has been generally scummy. I have not confirmed him as mafia but the dwarf avoided questions at the start, discredited some fair points with nonsense and did not really try to get any relevant information from what I could see. Relevant quotes + Show Spoiler + [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 09:28 Breshke wrote: Especially this [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wow Soren is really digging old things :D Cant we let past be past?[/QUOTE] This gives me a bad vibe aswell. So try to fish for something to scumhunt with?? [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 08:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 07:54 prplhz wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wow Soren is really digging old things :D Cant we let past be past?[/QUOTE] you should really just answer him and answer breshke why you are voting me[/QUOTE] Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all? Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then? [/QUOTE] Not much with what to scumhunt ![]() [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 08:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 08:06 Soren333 wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 07:51 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 07:48 Soren333 wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: [QUOTE]On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote: i might or might not be scum any thoughts?[/QUOTE] Everybody has little scum inside them.[/QUOTE] What the bloody hell does this mean?[/QUOTE] Come visit me and I'll show you ![]() Are you really hinting your role to me.[/QUOTE] Wow this guy is hardcore. He is like failed psychiatrist. Never got his papers out of the university. I think you.are trying too hard :D[/QUOTE] | ||
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On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote: Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this: The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can. Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum. Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious. | ||
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Yea I did! | ||
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I messed the "relevant quotes" up pretty bad tho, must of missed an end quote somewhere. I hope you can read it anyway but I can correct it in the morning if you insist. | ||
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Dwarf I am interested in how you did not know what scum means. It is meantioned twice in the OP and twice in the followup post right after. Seeing how you missed the part about editing it makes a bit more sense since you obviously did not read the thing. But under coaches for example it says Town: Scum: It is pretty hard to missunderstand what scum in this context means. As a fellow newbie I understand you could be speaking the truth but did you really not read the OP? | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:07 Soren333 wrote: Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up? Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game. What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia. | ||
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On April 10 2015 20:49 Bourneq wrote: What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia. Here more specifically and not two thousand posts later neither. You are making some really poor arguments here. + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote: It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion. On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote: The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. | ||
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On April 10 2015 21:00 Soren333 wrote: You're also contradicting yourself since you said it did not make you think of anything. " too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in" " it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion." "The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information." | ||
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On April 10 2015 07:48 Soren333 wrote: Everyone might or might not be scum. So asking this is just stupid. Precisely | ||
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On April 10 2015 21:11 prplhz wrote: nothing he is prodded he shows up and says whatever more of the same Meanwhile you have mainly been pushing a lynch on me since first days page based soley on me answering to your vote on me. From reading your filter you seem to have mainly been defending yourself in the same fashion when having been voted on and making jokes and from what I can tell not contributing that much to getting some serious mafia reads. | ||
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Obviously I am leaning towards scum on you. | ||
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On April 10 2015 22:59 Stutters695 wrote: So this game started apparently. What's up guys? Where have you been hiding? Welcome back. | ||
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On April 10 2015 23:27 prplhz wrote: i'd like someone to explain to me why bourneq is town Someone other than me I presume since I already answered this. | ||
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Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever. I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however. Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here. rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town. Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now. prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1. Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was. jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment. Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard. Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning. I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more. I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here. Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. | ||
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On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote: I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me. "Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically." "ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them. "He's playing like a fucktard." I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table. I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. | ||
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"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them. with a ROFL and haha, it's just silly. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote: OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I was not calling you scum untill late today, you had a fair reason to bring to attention that I was acting strange at the beginning for mainly just answering to pokes. But my poiny lately is that I have been over why that was the case and you're still going after me like I slayed you family in cold blood or something. I find that odd behaviour if you were town. You were fine in my back untill a few pages back. | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote: and waffling means not having any strong opinions. thank you | ||
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On April 11 2015 02:35 rsoultin wrote: lol i'm waffling on bourneq myself...fun word, waffle ^^ you're just really hyper-focused on things like joking around, emoticons, pretty much anything light, bourneq it's kinda normal for people to be a little laidback day 1? (depending on the player) simply 'cause there's not a lot to work with and it's actually kinda hard for scum to loosen up i'm not sure if this is just your inexperience or what though :/ do you think the ROFL looks forced? It could very well be my inexperiance. Im to inexperianced to answer that. What would you concider not be light? I did say my thoughts on peoples votes for example and I would not call that light. Yes the ROFL looks forced. | ||
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From trying to lynch me from the very start of the game. | ||
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On April 11 2015 03:29 Half the Sky wrote: Right now Dwarf. We're past the nicties part of this game and I don't recall reads from him. Others have given them and we're thirty pages deep at this point. You would not lynch Ace for his inactivity? | ||
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On April 11 2015 05:07 Stutters695 wrote: Bourneq: You listed myself, onegu, rsoultin, prpl, jarjar, ace and Bloody as null/scummy. That's obviously too many people to be scum and we can only lynch one today. Ignore Ace (assume he's dead either way for this question), who do you lynch today and what makes them scum? Anyone else here? I only count 2 people I put as scum. I said I was leaning towards this or that on some people but I did not list them as scum. | ||
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TBD. What about you? | ||
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On April 11 2015 06:51 jarjarbinks wrote: hey guys i'll be around for a while. reading up. let me know if you want my thoughts on something I want all of your thoughts. Can I have them? | ||
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I think we hit the nail on the head with plotspot in the recent pages. My personal reasoning behind scum reading plotspot is mainly from theese quotes On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote: prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^ I hate this post + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote: whoa a post from the past.^^ How should I answer this. There is a world of mind. A world of speech and a world of action. I certainly said prplhz is town, I think his early initiative and throrough way of examination befits that of a townsperson caring for the town. about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far. Onegu? 70% town. I think the host screwed up. Everybody is town^^. Or he is lazy giving out the roles according to the order on the front page.^^ This should be easy. Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^ I mean I observe, this game it really helps to know the posting style or habit or a person. I really cringe at some conclusion about me, you are all paranoid.^^ Ok, I don't have the super reading powers. I just know that Half the Sky and Soren thinks 100% that I'm town. Make of it what you can. Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote? Mainly because of "Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^" And "I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town." when he himself said prplhz was 100% town really early on. Not to meantion the 5 ^^, but I wont go into that. TBD is making my scum radar beep and its driving me crazy. I would like to see the dwarf do anything, just anything to further towns agenda. Or at least theorycraft with us. But he has done noone of that what so ever. The recent points brought against him also look solid. Now I will carefully examine prplhz and see if I have anything to bring to the table. | ||
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On April 11 2015 22:07 plotspot wrote: Yeah you hit the nail on that one. I guess that means we were not born for eachother. ^^ The funniest thing would be if you'd really be a mafia. I'd really like that. Useless townsfolk who confuses the fuck out of everyone or mafia, what does it matter who gets lynched? I'm totally always rooting for mafia regardless of alignment. Go guys.^^ What are you even saying here? Is it me you're calling useless townsfolk? Where am I confusing you? It matter a lot who gets lynched. | ||
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At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote: bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote: dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote: ##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote: okey plotspot ##Unvote ##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote: welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it. He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote: OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? | ||
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On April 11 2015 22:56 rsoultin wrote: Okay yeah same page as your question prp, so im not completely out to lunch but lol...bourne dude why would you lynch ace over someone (tbd in this case) you think is more likely to flip scum? My reasoning at the time that if Ace is not a mafia scared of posting or just flat out staying out of the game as a tactic, then he is at least to most useless town. Since he is not posting and thus not contributing anything then even if he was town it would not be a massive loss for us since he is not helping anyway. That being said I would wrather lynch somebody we can say is the most likely mafia and I will not be voting ace today. In fact, ##Vote Plotspot | ||
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"My reasoning at the time that if Ace is not a mafia scared of posting or just flat out staying out of the game as a tactic, then he is at least to most useless town. " Should read My reasoning at the time was that even if Ace is not a mafia that is scared of posting or using his absence as a strategy then he is at the very least the most useless town. | ||
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On April 11 2015 23:38 rsoultin wrote: to be clear the way youre talking i dont get why youre not voing aces slot bourrne That being said I would wrather lynch somebody we can say is the most likely mafia and I will not be voting ace today. | ||
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On April 12 2015 02:22 Tubesock wrote: Why ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Probably best point ever. | ||
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On April 12 2015 02:23 plotspot wrote: No sir Bourneq, I've changed my mind, like almost everybody here.^^ Maybe you could read and understand my posts.^^ I cant, all I see is ^^. | ||
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On April 12 2015 01:02 Bourneq wrote: Stutters can you give us some reads please? I would still love some reads from you when you get back from work. | ||
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On April 12 2015 03:01 Onegu wrote: Went to ER last night and narcotics haven't worn off. So yeah don't expect anything from me today. Can someone TLDR the last like 10 pages? If this was 100 years ago before IV pharmaceuticals I'm certain I'd be dead. Chronic pancreatitis is a bitch. Shout out to alakaslam's mom I hope you have a speedy recovery! | ||
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On April 12 2015 04:27 Half the Sky wrote: I don't have a problem with you saying this, I'm used to your tinfoil theories ![]() But there's something I don't understand from a gameplay standpoint. (See bolded). Even if the cop, if we have a cop, checks him, how is he going to know who the cop is? How do you know the cop will out with a check esp this early in the game. I haven't played student game in awhile, checked the rules, and nothing is jumping out to me that indicates if he were scum, that he'd be getting any sort of added information this way. Am I misunderstanding you? It would not get him any additional information but it would waste a cop check. | ||
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What I wonder is how TBD can justify not doing anything what so ever to help town in any way shape or form? I can only justify it with a scum read. I was hopin to get some reads from him today but all I got was On April 11 2015 23:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I dont find anybody really suspicious.. ![]() Stutters695. Checking his filter and I mostly see questions. Looks like he doesn't really have own opinion but is asking others what do they think. btw, I dont like you Tubesock, you have been chasing me from the beginning ![]() ##Vote thebloodydwarf There is a lot of talk about stutters. Top of page 2 of his filter he says "Assume I'm town for a second(you'll see why d2)." and I have yet too see why. There is still quite a few hours left so I am interested in what he has got for us. | ||
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On April 14 2015 20:52 Half the Sky wrote: Good afternoon Bourneq. Last night I did a VCA (vote count analysis) starting with the people I felt looked most suspicious. You were one of the most likely though I still need to look into the "less" suspicious individuals, but looking through you, my biggest beef with you was not your activity, but that you appeared to jump reads. The 15 hour gap between you wanting dwarf and Ace (now Shining) gone and then thread sentiment swung plotspot's way made me assess whether you were going along with the crowd when you'd been able to keep your options open by casing him earlier. I can see where you cased plotspot before and after ranking your scumreads, but Rasputin did point out ONE redeeming quote where you seemed to have original content and thought on prplhz. If you can answer the questions that I (and I know a few others posed for you) I think it would help greatly. Also if you can clarify where you stand on prplhz given his activity/etc D2, that would also help greatly. Good afternoon! Ill start with me "jumping to reads". My feelings on dwarf day 1 "I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here." Basicly I thought I should give TBD some time to give reads and get into the game before I jumped to a conclusion. Next up was Ace because he had not said a word all game. Since I did not have much to go on so early in the game I was concidering making a policy lynch. So when asked if I had to cast my vote right now who would I cast it on I said Ace. There was still plenty of time left of d1 so I was almost certain I would never acctualy cast that vote. As d1 went on and I got to read the cases against plotspot and my own personal reads of him I felt plotspot was the correct lynch. I had been keeping "my options open" because I did not feel I had very strong reads but that my strongest read was on plot. That was my first ever day of mafia so I would be a fool to trust my very first reads to much. So to answer "2 Was queried multiple times on the read switches from plotspot to TBD to Ace (who would be policy) to plotspot. Gives an answer to prplhz saying that TBD was most likely scum. " I am not sure what you meant by "read switches". Early on in the day I was getting bad vibes from tbd who was acting pretty suspicious to me. But it was early on in the day so I was going to give him time to redeem himself. He did not do much of anything for the rest of the day while plotspot was making a very bad case for himself and I thought that my reads on him were stronger than thoose I had on tbd. Somewhere in the middle of d1 I am asked who I would vote on if I had to vote that very second. I answered Ace because I did not feel enough information had surfaced on anybody so a policy lynch would be in good order. | ||
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On April 15 2015 03:57 Tubesock wrote: First, I'm glad you're voting Dwarf. Second, the way I read your list post you basically scummed everysingle person on that list except for Breshke. Later you said you only have 2 scums...Can you update please? I was not aware of the expression of "nulling" somebody. I would have used that word instead on a few reads. What I was saying in that post was that I was leaning this or the other on that person at that time. Obviously since it was early on in the game I was not sure about anybody. | ||
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On April 15 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote: meh this is like the only smart thing bourne has posted since the beginning of n1 objectively i agree that prp's done almost jack all, and ignoring the hypocrisy of bourneq criticizing someone else's activity lol >< his statements are either really obvious or unverifiable...the one good thing is the last sentence also finished rereading tube...i suppose he could be scum, hts, if only because i'm used to him pushing things more than he has been, but there are so many good insights in his filter that i can't see myself wanting to lynch him over players like bourne/tbd/shining/prp xP Where in the world am I criticizing prplhz activity? I am not saying he has not been active I was saying he has not contributed anything of note. | ||
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On April 15 2015 04:57 rsoultin wrote: considering the answer to your question "prplhz activity in d2 is really poor" is right in the quote i quoted? more to the point, unlike dwarf you actually started out day 1 with at least an opinion...as i said, that one post was pretty much the only contribution you actually made. got something to say to that or are you going to quibble over semantics ^^ cause i just looooove those sorts of arguments. they irritate me no end You are absolutely right it does say activity. What I meant to write was contributions, I absolutely don't think prplhz has not been active in the thread. My misstake. His activity doesnt really feel like its helping town in any way however. I am trying to contribute. I read peoples filters and really look for things that strike me and contribute best I can. D2 has been a little lackluster from my side purely due to real life obligations. The problem I have is that I dont feel confident in some of my reads because I have so little experiance in finding scum or scummy behaviour that it might just derail town from better reads. I will be more and more vocal as time goes on tho. | ||
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On April 15 2015 05:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I really feel bad tho. People asking me what I think and why I dont post scumhunting. Simple fact is that I don't really find anybody scummy. I only see if people are active or not and are they answering questions. Pretty bad at analyzing posts :/ I hardly remember who is scumhunting who and who they were scumhunting. This was almost reasonable if it was not for the fact that I dont get the feel that you even tried to scumhunt. Or to make a case for yourself. | ||
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On April 15 2015 06:01 Stutters695 wrote: Breshke Prpl scum. Discuss. Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that. | ||
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Well now I don't have any doubts about prplhz. I should of lynched him while I had the chance. | ||
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On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote: Explain? So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course. | ||
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lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did. | ||
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On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote: What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone? Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes. | ||
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On April 16 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote: I guarantee you that the timing of a vote made barely over an hour after the day began will not have any effect on a potential tiebreak for the lynch. How come? Quoted from OP "If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch." Concidering there is talk of not voting at all then there is quite the chance that it could matter. | ||
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I am vanilla town. So the claims are problably legit. Secondly, the evidence against prplhz has mounted up for quite a while now. ##Vote prplhz I am very confident that he will flip scum. | ||
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I am not scum, I have done nothing but tell the truth the entire game, sometimes I get it wrong but that is simply because this is my first game and I am having a hard time keeping up. I have been doing my best but sometimes my lack of posting has simply been down to not being familiar enough with the game to feel confident in my suspicions. Now that there are so few people left I feel I can say with some certianty who the scums are. | ||
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1. Everybody left is in the americas so I am not up for their busses. (excluding prplhz but he seems to be up 24/7) 2. I am going to get lynched and town will loose. 3. Anything I say will just make me look worse. I am going to put my thoughts down anyway. Scum here is certinatly prplhz, jarjar, tube/trfel. Right now there is 2 scums voting on me. Another scum is waiting to see where the rest of the votes go so they can switch onto me if necessary. So everybody that is town will have to vote on the same person to save me. Since I am not universially town read this means I will most certinatly die here. I will flip VT, we will loose. | ||
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2. Tube and trfel could absolutely be scum together. Jarjar never left a town nor scum impression on me but I know its 3 of the 4 people I put on that list that is scum so I put him on there from the process of elimination. | ||
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On April 17 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote: bourneq lol >< i know you've already explained this, but it's sitting weird cause when I ctrl-F'd prplhz' name your wording in your posts (it's in the spoiler in the big post i posted earlier) suggested you were frustrated/dropping your prplhz push because you were accused of OMGUS. when did you start thinking that you were maybe just scumreading him for scumreading you? (i find this especially weird since both of you seemed pretty adamant about each other day 1 but ended up pushing other players) also, why do you think tube and truffle could be scum together? I did not have a prpl push before now. I was never sure about him untill d3. I was questioning whether he was pushing me because he is scum or because he wants to solve the game. Since I was not sure I did not push prpl. Prpl has been adamant about me not the other way around. | ||
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On April 17 2015 22:56 prplhz wrote: considering this is your first game i don't you've been that bad lol what makes you think you've been playing poorly? My votes have all killed towns. I was not confident enough in my reads and did not want to derail town so I was not as active as I should have. Thats bad play too me. | ||
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I will flip VT and town will loose. | ||
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The day is ending soon and I dont think they will conveniantly be back for eod. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote: On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this This also bugs me How can TBD be anybodys top town read? This just seemed really unmotivated. + Show Spoiler + [QUOTE]On April 16 2015 06:58 Bourneq wrote: A no lynch could make sense. But I think our case against prplhz is absolutely lynch worthy. He has pushed both hts and stutters but not got his way. Now they are dead. He defended dwarf most likely to get some town cred to his name after we surely lynch him. He has pushed a lynch on me since I got of on a bad footing and is the newbie that would be easy to be made to look bad. I don't concider his reads or most of his posts to have been helpfull to town at all. He also wasted his vote D2. Not to mention all the other reads against him like the one hts did. I feel very confident in lynching prplhz. + Show Spoiler + [QUOTE]On April 16 2015 05:59 Half the Sky wrote: In case I die: [...] Lynch it with fire prplhz - Do I need to beat a dead horse with this one? | ||
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On April 18 2015 06:24 rsoultin wrote: bourneq your game was great man for your first game...i think you got discouraged later because of the scumreads all game but you really did do a good job lol >< prp townreading the other two for basically nothing but giving you flak was unfortunate, cause i would have said you were the most clearly town of the 3 ^^ Lol! I was about to write I feel really discouraged in one of my last posts but I didnt. Thanks for the kind words :D. I really struggled putting together cases against people and D3 I was sure that whatever I said scum would be able to pick apart and make me look bad. I bet I could of defended me quite nicely but the more I defend myself the more guilty I look. I have learned SO MUCH this game so I think I can confidently sign up for another one with a little more experiance. | ||
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