EPTOn February 14 2015 15:49 liancourt wrote:
who we lynching today?
who we lynching today?
The objective RNG picked VA, which is a 30% chance of being scum which is pretty darned good for D1, so let's lynch VayneAuthority.
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Blazinghand
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The objective RNG picked VA, which is a 30% chance of being scum which is pretty darned good for D1, so let's lynch VayneAuthority. | ||
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On February 14 2015 15:54 Half the Sky wrote: BH, come on. Yes that was a reason, no I am not denying he got RNGed. But you stated another reason to objectively scumread him. My criticism is of the bolded: I am disputing your OTHER objective reason for scumreading him. Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On February 14 2015 17:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Blazinghand, let's be honest: Are you forging that read on vayne? The one besides rng? Of course. I don't know the dude's meta at all, but people will probably buy it; people aren't very bright. | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:29 Superbia wrote: Yo BH. Did you have your target ready before your posted your RNG post? No, the RNG post actually determines the target itself. The fact that you're asking this question means that you haven't understood how RNG works, because you didn't actually read my post. Ugh. Let me explain for you. 1. I make a post that says, "this post is the dice roll". This is post A. 2. Post A has a global post #, something like 8349012849230 or whatever. I take that number and use it as the basis of my RNG. 3. I make a post called post B showing my math based on post A, and I place a vote. This means that I can't possibly know who is being RNGed and have zero control over the RNG, and there's no way for me to "take back" or "reroll" the RNG. The fact that you're asking your question shows disrespect for my posts, as you clearly didn't understand them. I'm disappointed. | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:38 Superbia wrote: The fact that I'm asking underlines my shock at you being able to follow up your RNG explanation post with: - Generating a random number. - Moduling this number. - Translating the number to a name on your list. - Making a follow up post. In a minute. Thanks! | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:43 Superbia wrote: I'm not doubting your math. I'm doubting the genuineness behind the RNG. On February 14 2015 18:44 Superbia wrote: Why did you feel the need to split up the explanation post and the post with the actual RNG? ಠ_ಠ | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes. Not 100% but more than likely. I am lynching that anyways. I don't see a reason for claiming as town because your job is to look townie ny your actions, something that is not expected from mafia. But townies do not fear getting cop checked. Because cops are supposed to check scummy playwers and you should not think youare scummy as town. The claim represents fear of being viewed as mafia, which... See above. 1. cops should optimally check into players who are semi-scummy but not optimal lynch targets, so your'e wrong about that 2. people claim miller all the time as town 3. townies dont' fear getting cop checked because they return miller to cop checks. with a miller this isn't true. | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes. Not 100% but more than likely. I am lynching that anyways. I don't see a reason for claiming as town because your job is to look townie ny your actions, something that is not expected from mafia. But townies do not fear getting cop checked. Because cops are supposed to check scummy playwers and you should not think youare scummy as town. The claim represents fear of being viewed as mafia, which... See above. 1. cops should optimally check into players who are semi-scummy but not optimal lynch targets, so your'e wrong about that 2. people claim miller all the time as town 3. townies don't fear getting cop checked because they return innocent to cop checks. with a miller this isn't true. EBWOP | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:24 Palmar wrote: yeah I was confused by the miller returns  it would kinda defeat the purpose of miller if cop checks on a miller didn't return guilty or innocent, just "miller" | ||
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Blazinghand
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ok I get it you got a general policy of lynching miller claims. I can respect that. How about a policy voting pact? If my RNG lynch is close to winning and your miller push isn't working, you vote for VA today? | ||
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Blazinghand
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On February 14 2015 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: No chance i am voting for VA, he is town. Didn't you see the part where I RNGed him? He must be scum, RNG says so and it's right 100% of the time, 30% of the time in this setup. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On February 14 2015 20:30 Blazinghand wrote: Didn't you see the part where I RNGed him? He must be scum, RNG says so and it's right 100% of the time, 30% of the time in this setup. OK sorry this was adumb reply better reply "why do you think he's town? is it really just based on lame meta speculation that town VA is lazy, or is there something more to it? please be detailed and explain in yoru own words." | ||
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On February 14 2015 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where do you get the 30%? There is 4 scum. There's 5 scum: 4 mafia and 1 SK. | ||
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On March 12 2014 17:57 Palmar wrote: A little point about this game: It really, really proves the value of NOT GETTING LYNCHED as town. For some reason staying alive, just like sheeping, is a pretty devalued skill in mafia. Everyone wants to focus on amazing reads and shit, and while those are great, the main job of any townie can simply be to not get lynched. If townies don't get lynched town wins the game by default. On February 03 2015 00:23 Palmar wrote: While I'm on the topic of underrated skillsets, HTS has an amazing ability look town when she is. She is just so painfully obviously town that it makes the game so much easier. Like for some reason everyone seems to think the be-all end-all townplayer skill in mafia is to figure out who is mafia, when in reality it's only one of half a dozen or so very important skills that can't exist without each other. The ability to convince, the ability to be townread, the ability to sheep when needed, the ability to control atmosphere and focus discussion etc etc etc. This game was actually a very good example of how unimportant actually figuring out who the mafia is can be. If you polled people in this game, more than half of them would put me in the bottom half for performance as town here. But no one was more right on the mafia than I was this game. I literally tried to kill 3 people day 1 and those were the mafia. However: I was not useful for direction/focus/atmosphere I couldn't convince anyone to follow me Half the players thought I was mafia. I agree! I didn't play this game well at all. And of the two things I did right, only one of them was actually really good, and it wasn't the fact that I went after the entire mafia team. In the end my willingness to sheep Damdred's case and thus make a good judgement call is something I'm far more happy about than being right. So yeah, don't sleep on players even if they are wrong sometimes. The #1 priority of any town player is to not get lynched. So as you can see, we have problems in this thread because our votes are all over the place. People are focussed too much on trying to look good (for example, numerous peoples' extremely wrongheaded attack on my RNG) or like, trying to hunt scum or something, when they should be focused on constructing a solid town discourse. I propose we focus this discourse around my wagon on Vayne. It's the largest wagon by a good amount, and on top of that, despite his protestations Vayne isn't contributing. Oh, he might, and if he's town I'm sure he'll pick things up, but it's not like we lose anything by lynching him, or pushing a lynch on him. Think about all the people who have come out of the woodwork to attack my case, or even worse, to ignore it utterly. What's the agenda here? Clearly scum are afraid. Afraid of the glory of RNG. Now, maybe you have your own cases, or your own ideas, and that's fine. I appreciate that. Maybe that one-vote case on rayn or whatever could be a thing. But right now, we need to focus on the task at hand, which is sheeping me and voting Vayne. It's our best chance to unify this town onto a solid goal, which is lynching according to RNG. Vote Vayne, lynch him for unity and because you understand that sheeping me is an underrated skill. any questions? | ||
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On February 15 2015 09:29 LightningStrike wrote: Are you saying BH is Mafia by meta? Sounds like it to me, but of course without examples or a real case. Just words. | ||
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On February 15 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: Also: ##unvote BH, how does sheeping being a skill translate to sheeping you being a skill? I'm the natural choice. I've made a solid case and gathered support for it. Nobody else has a read or a case with my level of conviction. | ||
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On February 15 2015 10:53 Town Puppy wrote: Yeah, but I made up for it with a case that is qualitatively better than "random vote that I push like it isn't one." how many votes you got boyo On February 15 2015 10:51 prplhz wrote: @BlazingHand If you have the only good case in the thread, isn't it really suspicious that people like raynpelikoneet and Palmar aren't paying much attention to it? What do you make of that? nope | ||
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