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On February 08 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: what if i said Onegu is pretty damn confirmed town aswell? I would actually agree with you more than likely, | ||
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He is in the solid town pile for today. Rayn is top town though. | ||
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SL might be scum. idk about the third | ||
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Your posts here were defensive but they lacked a sort of questioning at first that the quoted posts had. While it doesn't make you 100% mafia I think it males you more likely | ||
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You have several opinions on you so far. Are any scum on them? | ||
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What do you think of SL and ff | ||
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But I'll be more interesting tommorow or when I get home. Like a lot of people are acting towny so I'm a reverse pposition | ||
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Either way I'm not disagreeing I haven't looked totally towny so far weekend game starts are kinda meh | ||
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On February 08 2015 10:01 Keirathi wrote: And I dropped the suspicion when you said you were amazeballs at reading him and that he was playing as town when I asked you why. Damdred asked me which reactions stood out the most to me, so I told him. Slam's definitely looked the worst at first glance to me without knowing how to read him. This is another interesting part, I never really asked which reactions stood out the most. I said basically who was the scum in the opinions and only slam was mentioned | ||
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Skimming is a dorm of reading, ls then filtered someone he wasn't sure of. Sl dodged which is even more interesting | ||
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What else do you have for what's been going on | ||
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On February 08 2015 13:05 sicklucker wrote: ?? How am I dodging anything, I cant read myself. I know you ment ls and I answered that by asking how you read him town which you actually dodged.... I dont read people off half a page filter but explain how you did plz. Ive explained everyone of my reads I dont have no damn read on Ls and why are you putting scum on me for not having a read on a guy that posted like 3 times. I've explained it twice so far. I asked for your read you refused and redirected its a dodge by you. | ||
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Still you seem to have a pretty strong town read on Rayn but most of your posts read like you are having rayn as scum for what you see as a bad wagon | ||
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On February 08 2015 14:13 gobbledydook wrote: if u say 60-70% is a strong town read then ok. that 30%-40% is where the doubt comes in, seeing as everyone townreads rayn i thought it was good to raise the issue of 'is he sure to be town'? You dodged part of my question. We'll come back to it later though. Would scum!Rayn want to work with the thread and pressure people to give reads and try to keep the thread actually flowing pretty well instead of making people rage? I'm not so sure... anyway, you call the wagon bad. So are you town reading Kie? | ||
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Anyway I've already stated why I think loan is town lean but I'll repeat. Tone wise and post wise it looks like loans town fame, like I said its a meh read but its where I am/was on him at the time. also not sure why people are talking about me being on Kei wagon when I'm not I think he did some scummy things and caught him in one unconsistant thing which you didn't mention geript but idk if he's my vote so far and haven't read filters yet. at work again though | ||
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However, I think that there is a really good shot that gobble is scum. There are a few red flags that have cropped up in his small filter that have left me scratching my head in a scum sided way. Gobbles main interactions in the thread have been casting doubt on people overall. If you look at the first few rayn posts you can see the first him talking about how we shouldn't trust rayn shit wagon etc. This is all fine and food and it is ok to be paranoid and the posts lead you to believe that rayn is a scum read. If you look you will find gobble saying what is rayn even doing and he is hinting that he has a scum read on rayn. I say that he's been acting town and hobble reacts with how which most of the thread explaining why. Gobble continues casting doubts on trusting rayn However it turns out that gobble has a pretty decent sized town read on rayn. What was the point of all of the doubting and hinting that rayn is actually scum even in the postings slightly before casting doubt. His slam post is also interesting it is a lot of doubt and shadow just to come up with a null when pressed. With all of the information its quite surprising that its not a scum lean as it was reading to be but its only a gotta give him more time. Its really weird and kind of really wordy for a null. Finally his later postings talking about me. Geript says I usually play better and gooble his fast I need to stop playing like shit etc etc. When just before seemed like he was somewhat town reading me for a bit of a push. I find gobble pretty inconsistent and a good shot at scum. | ||
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Third times a charm I suppose. Its a half tone read and how he's posting read. Overall its a light read but a decent starting point for his later postings | ||
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On February 09 2015 01:51 sicklucker wrote: or recent games where he tried to lynch me as town because he was bumhurt I tricked him as mafia Actually I caught you as mafia in one game not tricked. And I don't let past games color present games and you acted really scum in a game I tried to lynch you in shrug | ||
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Also geript some people answered your questions and made cases and you didn't mentionsnything. Your lack of follow up or lack of commenting on some things is interesting | ||
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What do you think of the other cases ff on gobble etc. | ||
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Geript is possible scum. Gobble should be the lymch | ||
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On February 09 2015 06:36 liancourt wrote: Is that really an argument though? I can just as well vote and unvote later so what's the point in my voting now? I can just vote like this ##vote keira Actually it is partially scummy as it could be seen as keeping options open. I think its a good point buy I don't think it makes you mafia as I hold on to voting usually. | ||
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Throwing doubts on townies who are doing things is anti town at best and scum motivated at worst. Why would you go so far as to show doubt on rayn if you think the wagon is bad but you think he is town. It doesn't make sense honestly, town makes bad wagons just as often as scum oushes bad wagons. His point on me is all weird and feels really gake its there with no real examples and no context. So tell me what's so towny about gobble lm | ||
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I really suggest people start getting on. | ||
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Also its unfair to say loan is lynch bait and ff isn't. Ff looks really town even though I disagree with his case, he should be sheepfeast though. | ||
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On February 09 2015 10:54 gobbledydook wrote: no bueno i wake up to a wagon on me first that 'why are u not voting damdred' thing is wrong, i can always vote whenever so long as i do it before deadline, i could put my vote on him and that would be as noncommittal as putting it anywhere else or not putting it anywhere. damdreds showed up since i went to sleep. hes started thinking which is good. im taking him off the scumlist. obi is pretty useless, but hes always pretty useless with a few scattered gems of brilliance among the uselessness and i lost my last game scumreading his uselessness when he was town, so i dont know any more. how do u read him? lonemeow needs to say more stuff lightning strike is pretty interesting, so what hes been doing is: 1) make a pretty general and boring list of one-sentence reads of everyone, that it doesnt seem like hes thought much about it. 2) makes excuses for not posting 3) sheeps damdred 4) asking simple questions about what X thinks of Y this betrays a lack of deep thinking, i think its likely he scum tryna get an easy mislynch without doing much This is a pretty bad post for a catch up post I think. Firstly totally avoids the case on him never even tries to answer any of the points that I brought up. Instead talked about why he didn't instantly vote on me which wasn't really a point that was brought up I believe in my case or in some of the questions asked. Avoided Kei question about Linux mafia. Also you say you have a scum list but looking in your filter you had me as scum but now you are backing off of it. And now you are putting scum on LS without really showing us much of why he is scum or looking at his previous games to see if this is in his scum or town wheel house which is really important when dealing with LS. Also #3 isn't alignment indicative at all, all townies should be able to sheep a good case. And I have a good case, not every game can every person be a shepherd sometimes they have to be sheep to the slaughter. Also if you scum read LS for #1 then you should be scum reading FF for it also as he did the same thing but you didn't make mention of him here. Overall i'm really not understanding how 1-4 make someone mafia. Its not really alignment indicative. This post says a lot without answering a lot of the things brought against him and still lacks the depth of scum hunting and thoughts that a town would use. Lynch with fire | ||
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Also one of the reasons i'm kind of lagging behind on doing your list post LS is that I realize I have one to many town reads currently and I need to figure out who i'm most likely wrong on. | ||
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Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? | ||
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On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote: Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points. | ||
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On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote: So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you. I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all. | ||
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On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote: Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine. Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way. Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting. However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all. | ||
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On February 09 2015 13:11 geript wrote: I haven't dropped Obi. We're fucking lynching his ass. Like I also haven't dropped some of the earlier stuff, but the threads been pretty dead and when it's not it's been pretty worthless. Like there really isn't much more to say since I was in this after noon. Like Obi's read on me plus his non-read on Keir plus his complete batshit crazy but not really batshit cray cray is amazeballs scummy. How do you not get that? Like he literally glosses over great points that he should agree with and support, two things which he doesn't do in any way, to focus on the most peripheral bullshit ever. Like it's completely hilarious. Why don't you want to lynch the fuck out of OWScum? I never said that you were dropping the OWS things as you pushed that while you were here, it was the earlier questions comments and scum reads that did not show up again that I commenting on. Gobble is obvious scum and made two great cases, and is a lot more likely to flip scum than ows | ||
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I'm really sure on gobble not as sure on gobble. | ||
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I'm also curious why people other than geript have me anything other than town, that really baffles me bad pushes or not. | ||
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Geript really filter Gobble, read my case on him read the reply to his re entry and comment on it. I really have caught scum here. | ||
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I really like your case Rayn but I like my case a lot, I really think we need to decide who to consolidate on because right now mafia could slam obi and we have two other good lynches up with people afk on obi basically. I have until 2:15 for us to consolidate though | ||
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OWS won't be the lynch its either kei or gobble and I want gobble obviously. | ||
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And talk about missing sarcasm | ||
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Like it seemed like you were starting to scum read gobble and then you just drop it and jump on keirathi? | ||
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Really different. | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: No fuck LS is town. And the light of LS is shown to all. | ||
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LS is really towny, he just takes some time to get to read. | ||
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Gobble is really scummy but you are ignoring the cases and calling them bad etc., so *shrug*. | ||
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Here I think we have really good reasons why gobble is scum, it goes beyond being rusty as dodging questions and completely ignoring things is not rust. Also not really pressuring people or scum hunting isn't rust. I'm really sure on gobble. | ||
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On February 10 2015 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I jsut said if i am wrong on someone then SL might be mafia. Just for that fucking terrible vote and Keirathi's non-reaction to it. Also that would make Gobble town because SL is voting for him which makes you .. again, look way more worse. I'm curious why does it make gobble town? SL was voting on ows? | ||
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why in the fuck didn't you people check context of his vote that's so shitty. Why didn't people trust my read my case was golden.... | ||
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If your tr geript that means two of your tr are wrong though | ||
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If you wanted to policy lynch him it should of been d1. Beg a big to shoot him but I can see a world where ows is town | ||
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Gobble is scum I need him shot. Last one will be hard idk | ||
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especially when two town reads are leading wagons and yelling its a bit rough for the sheep | ||
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But its ok gobbles town now for a non reason. | ||
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On February 10 2015 07:50 geript wrote: Here's scum motivation Damdred. Gobble is his mafia partner, he wanted to save him then thought he'd be lynched because of my vote and switched back. OR perhaps gobble is town and he figured he'd catch less flak if gobble is lynched instead of Keir. Or maybe he wanted to make sure Keir got lynch. Maybe he did it because he's methodical and people would think he'd never do that as mafia. Maybe he did it because he's a bad player as both alignments. Do you need more possible explanations? OWS being mafia has no affect on Gobble being mafia. They can independently be mafia. thank you for at least answering my question | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: This is not a good point to make ftr. Feels don't make a case. Stop being dumb obi, feeling tone etc. Can catch mafia. | ||
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On February 10 2015 10:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I know they can. The issue is that what you're saying can be interpreted multiple ways and saying that "it feels gloaty" isn't enough to warrant a lynch. I think you might be letting confirmation bias affect you atm. The title of the video was Do nothing and win, luigi of course. That is gloating a bit no matter how you look at it. Also my case still stands, and your point about why Gobbles post is sorta wifom. Why do mafia hard defend townies for no reason? To get town cred at flips, Who cares if it limits options there might be a brand new wagon tomorrow maybe gobble will try to get LS lynched who knows. Also the post is extremely open ended, it doesnt' call you town it doesn't call you scum it says you are a coin flip. So i'm not really sure how it is limiting itself in that case? | ||
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And for a lot of pages gobble sure did disappear again without any other contribution or answering any questions that were brought up. So no its not confirmation bias as actions speak pretty loudly in this case. | ||
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I'm open to people being town, but gobble isn't trying to be town really | ||
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Gobble Slam Fecalfeast questions before I dissapear again | ||
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This far into the night cycle he hasn't made mention of his lian scum read or tried to interact with him at all even though they were both in the thread. To me this is strange, also if you look at the voting FF gives not much reasoning why he should of switched at the time he just sheeped rayn when he was secure in the thought and really liked the case on gobble. Also he went onto a wagon that had his main scum read at the time lian as one of the main anchors of the wagon, nearing eod he even q uoted a post rayn said about scum wanting to be here at eod and then quoted kei. He shows no real wanting to figure out peoples alignment and just give random stand alone cases without trying to press the person overly much for information or try to interact with them and when the moments past he seemily doesn't mention it again past that moment. His filters a bit weird especially the vote at eod... | ||
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On February 10 2015 09:45 gobbledydook wrote: wat the hell was obi thinking when he voted keir apparently the best reason offered so far about obi being scum is he wouldnt do that vote switch as town, and hes useless? what about this, i played with him last time in championship belt, he was fucking useless and does weird ass things and we scumread him at lylo and lost? that switching vote thingy can happen often esp when ppl get confused by last-minute switches by other ppl and the ten million reasons why X is or is not mafia that they throw out and expect ppl to understand in five minutes? i dont think rayns '100% mafia' read is right in fact i think at most its a coinflip on ows here ls i have a bad timezone and things to do sorry i couldnt be on after that last post i made? Also was rereading Gobbles filter and the bolded is interesting to me, why make a sorta apology to someone you think is scum? Gobble puts scum on people and drops points entirely without ever revisiting it again. He did it with slam who was a null and hasn't updated that read or any read at all. Put scum on LS but hasn't mentioned LS at all since they've been back in the thread, said wes hould be paranoid of Rayn but hasn't even mentioned rayn at all. Hasn't mentioned anything about the case on him be it wrong or right, ignores questions. Also this is a weird read on obi live I've sadi before but I won't talk overly long about gobble. | ||
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Since then he really hasnt' done anything has none of his own reads and is just interested in sheeping. If you look at Titanic MS paint its something that slam does a lot hes more worried about sheeping than anything, hes not himself here hes not posty and care free. I think hes a good shot at scum. | ||
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Damdred Rayn Geript Lightning Strike Probably town Liancourt Onegu SL, LM, Obi could potentially be scum. But I still think obi does this stuff as town all of the time, LM has some ok posts and some things he just drops for no reason and him wanting to sheep a case because of a stronger town read is a bit weird to me especially when they were liking the case earlier. SL idk some of his votes were weird but his filter looks okish, hes a bit strange. | ||
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Also he has no real FF read in his filter LS, he agrees with his list post but didn't mention him at all. He also draws a bit of a shadow onto onegu talking about his voting, but its really unclear what his read on is at that point, but other than that you can't tell what his read is. So no it has nothing to do with learning to read but actually covering everyone which he hasn't done. In his filter or in this post. | ||
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Obis post look rpetty towny left a will if he gets vig'd at least. SL looks ok. | ||
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Its an odd kill but unsure atm. | ||
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loans filter didn't show me to much. Though explain why all three would be town | ||
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That's all the reasons I can think of. Idk why one of us wouldn't at least get shot at kinda meh, I was thinking maybe rayn is scum but I don't even believe it. | ||
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But yes, I'm going to look somewhere else than gobble right now. I'm not making today one of those days. If gobble is town, makes ff switch not as bad. Obis a bit better to. That would leave me in a world where three mafia are in ls, lm, SL, onegu and slam. That's a really crappy pool to pull from I don't think slam makes that kill though I remember in titanic he said medic saves are wifom and to shoot the towniest town. Unless I throw geript or rayn in which I don't want to do today. | ||
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Either way, i'm nto sure who I want to lynch right now. Gobble is still a high priority for me as they are really disconnected from anything going on in the thread and just focusing on LS and LM without commenting on anything else. I really doubt that mafia blocked lian and shot him. So it gives credence to the claim, though could of thought he was the vig. FF should be judged a part from that I think, and his performance TODAY has been pretty good and towny and hes helped push discussion so i'm ok with him. | ||
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There are a few that really worry me though. | ||
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On February 11 2015 13:43 Alakaslam wrote: It has been long that I waited this game Come! Tell me truly, why am I so scummy? Indeed this is the first time when that is said referring to people's actual sentiment 0.O Sson you sheep for sheep sake without seeing with the eyes and making people see through the eyes. | ||
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On February 11 2015 13:45 Alakaslam wrote: oh & Damdred u r scum because you vote gobble and rayn said he is probably town because he was gone and yet you still push him and me today Now I await your counter + Show Spoiler + as always, there is wifom: rayn could be scum somehow Rayn says that gobble is town because he thinks Obi is Scum. Or did so at last appearance. I push you to see if your eyes are open or clouded! And of course sheeping is a necessary skill. | ||
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Sson have you read the day so far? | ||
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Slam is comfortably vetted for me. The fite is over and he has won for now. I am going to lay down | ||
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Gobble if you are here you really need to interact with more people if you are town instead of just randomly posting. Your list post troubles me in the fact that parts of it feel really really behind such as Geript scum reading OWS even to this point. When hes somewhat going back on it, while at the same time you have some current things that make it sound like you are reading the thread at this point. So are you completely caught up or what? The reason that I am comfortable with slam for today is magic! While that's not necessarily the whole truth its partly the truth, Going into it I had a idea that slam was scum, and some of his replies such as if he had been reading or not struck me as something town slam would say. Also his wanting to die now instead of later also gives me some town vibe feels which is partly wifom of course. And of course intial push by slam looks somewhat towny even if he sheeped me and Rayn, which on rayn wasn't much of a sheep since it was his initial case also. LM could be scum also I keep forgetting them, gobble is a good shot at scum and I need to refilter some people. But I would like opinions on these two to start out with. | ||
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Some interesting things in the thread, but i'm not going to be here fo rlike the next 16 hours or so. Please post a good bit get information in the thread so I can read it tomorrow after the things I must do . | ||
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Romance me on this idea. | ||
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there are a few ways to take the nk, one total medic dodge another everyone on the wrong track. However loan wanted us to lynch gobble. So we still could be right on gobbles. Also doesn't really clear SL since he's a hardcore busser especially if someone isn't carrying their weight | ||
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answer my questions and I might invite. Why did you call him 90% mafia yesterday when he had no chance of being night killed and was very easily able to get voted off? Why did you attack him today and then vote him then move on to SL? | ||
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On February 09 2015 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Keirathi Geript Gobblydobbly are mafia. for example. this is why this claim is super questionable << | ||
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You then basically started the wagon by voting him today, and then jumped off and claimed mason with him. Tell me how this all happened and why you made these plays | ||
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I'd probably lynch lm or SL I guess | ||
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I'll invite when I get on the comp if I do tonight | ||
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Gobble isn't scum which helps me poe if I'm right. But I'm up for an SL lynch | ||
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But yea ineed to go for a bit | ||
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Rayn would be framer with Goble thebpartner | ||
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On February 12 2015 13:42 Onegu wrote: Who the fuck would be stupid enough to give him a gun? Doesn't really matter, we need the info | ||
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If SL is the tracker and rayn visited gobble we should lynch them both honestly | ||
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Do you have a gun? Did you track rayn to gobble last night? | ||
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That's pretty funny | ||
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Sl gives us a good bit of info. Probably mafia are in lm, gobble, slam, ls. probably a slam lm team. I'm not sure though I'm really drunk | ||
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Anyway. A few things to think about so far from me, even though Slam loves to bus, SL is a valuable role to keep around and he was getting moderate pressure before his train wreck so him moving over with Rayn really early is a good mark for him I think. Unless gobble is scum of course and is godfather or something and then its completely different. However there is a likely hood that he is town here who is just sheeping rayn towards glory. FF is obviously town really early on the wagon, blocked. Rayn is town even if you don't pay attention to what he has done in thread he never busses to the extent that this would have to be. His fake claim was pretty obviously to draw reactions and he found mafia with it. I'm pretty obvious town so theres that. Onegu looks pretty good for getting Sl to quit like that and SLs reaction to it looks interesting. I'm not sure it makes him confirmed town but hes pretty towny for it. That leaves me looking into Obi, LM, Gobble, LS. Gobble is more than likely town with SL slip about him hammering a townie over another town Leaves LM, OBI, LS, MAYBE Geript. | ||
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On February 13 2015 00:31 OnceKing wrote: Vote count sicklucker (10) : raynpelikoneet, FecalFeast, Alakaslam, gobbledydook, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Onegu, LightningStrike, geript, LoneMeow Alakaslam (1): sicklucker Currently, sicklucker is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends in at 20:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain. | ||
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LM is really possible mafia here, i'll give you that. And I still think you are pretty towny. It would be interesting if it was SL, Geript and LM though. | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:12 LoneMeow wrote: I don't quite agree that Keirathi has done nothing to contribute in scum hunting, he has asked some relevant questions. Followup and conclusions on those seems to be lacking though so meh, maybe he is scum. I'll just sheep raynpelikoneet for now. ##Vote: Keirathi This post struck me as interesting when I first read it btw, and it still really is an odd post. As far as I can tell Keirathi was a town lean for LM right before this point. | ||
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Your vote is odd and what made you start doubting your read when you were in favor of a gobble case at that point? | ||
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Im not a slam whisperer, but there were a lot of could bes in the first few posts. And the last one is more reasoned out and there aren't many roles that are more important than the RB. | ||
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On February 13 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote: Some day you'll learn the difference between "odd" and "scum". I trust the reads of some of the players in this game more than my own; then the question simply becomes do I trust my read on them when I think they're town and push for a totally different lynch than what I'd want. What did you want up to that point in the day btw? | ||
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You have been sort of hard to follow this game LM, some things look good some look meh. And we had a huge coincidence that you popped up right when I made a point lol, which isn't alignment indicative. I'll think more on it | ||
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LS give me your reads currently and where you want to go. | ||
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And here we are in night again | ||
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So my initial read on slam was that he wouldn't bus an important role. Ls do you think this makes it more or less likely slam is scum and why? Do you think his early voting is indicative at all? | ||
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I'm pretty sure LS is town. In titanic mafia slam chose kills he would over rule everyone and put what he thought was best in at the time. | ||
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Anyway, I guess lm is the lynch atm. Gobble and ff confirmed town, onef looks good to. | ||
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Ls or anyone who's more likely mafia geript or obi and why | ||
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and hobble idk depends who was claiming mason with rayn. If not could be scum. | ||
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His play is overall weaker and he has to be forced to somewhat do things. He slants everything and doesn't usually wifom meta so much | ||
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am I scum or town ls | ||
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Gobble so you have a red check on ls? | ||
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On February 15 2015 02:31 LoneMeow wrote: Two questions: How exactly do you know there's a godfather in the game? What makes you think gobbledydook has a red check on LightningStrike? If theres a cop their is a good shot that a godfather exists in the game. Its a bit wifom but goon, rb, godfather isn't the most otherworldy setup. Because of gobbles filter. That's interesting question though, you aren't asking why I think gobbles cop. You are asking why I think he has a red check | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:25 LoneMeow wrote: My biggest scum read is pretty clearly in the case I just posted. And I'm not scum because I know the role PM I received? Not sure if you want me to analyze myself or what? For the record I'm not sold in the slightest about LightningStrike being scum. I also don't think Damdred is scum despite that weird red check thing which I don't quite buy at the moment. So obi and who is scum again? | ||
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On February 15 2015 03:33 LoneMeow wrote: I'd think goon, RB, GF vs mason pair and cop would be a bit over the top, but I must admit I'm not super familiar with balancing the games. What I wanted to know is what in gobbledydook's filter makes you think he has a red check on LightningStrike, duh. Also since you make a big point about him explicitly a cop, I wouldn't mind if you explained why you're so sure about that, too. But far more interested in the first point. Just feels like hes trying to push his red check without claiming especially today with his semi case on LS. On February 12 2015 11:01 gobbledydook wrote: sicklucker has to be scum i can't imagine any town reacting in such a way to rayns claim, fake or no. I'm not going to say anything regarding the mason or cop claim because it's 100% fake but rayn is 100% town. the logical fallacy in sicklucker is real and hes spent 20 pages being useless and shouting ur the cop no im not ur the cop no im not and generally occupying space. this is probably the least productive night ive slept through because of that and sicklucker deserves the praise. This is a breadcrumb if not an actual soft claim. | ||
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Damdred-town Onegu- confirmed town FF- Town, lazy town now though Gobble- Townish by your own admission Which leaves, LS, OWS, LM Geript Obviously you won't say yourself you have OWS as scum so that leaves Geript and LS? What do you think of those last two? | ||
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Who on the town list is wrong then if LS doesn't feel right to you? | ||
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On February 15 2015 04:09 LoneMeow wrote: You're the only one on the list who is not "confirmed" in some way. Fecalfeast is not really 100% confirmed to me. There's a tiny chance that scum was planning on switching from gobbledydook to Keirathi at the last second but town made the switch before they could do it so (barring any other confirmation) gobbledydook is not 100% confirmed either. Based on play alone and nothing else, I'd say gobbledydook is most likely of those to be scum, but honestly the way the wagons went on day 1... I'd rather think I'm wrong about LightningStrike I guess. I'm not exactly sure if these are actual good reasons. For example SL likes to vote useless team mates but will secure mislynches most of the time. In void 100% would of voted HTS for being useless and being found out. He somewhat bus'd JAT that game as well, so not sure how the vote makes gobble that much confirmed to take them off the table. I'm not sure why you would rather be wrong about LS? | ||
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LM what do you think of slam? | ||
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Why you no post more insightful things | ||
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I mean I guess he could be mafia but I don't think any of those things exclusively make him mafia... | ||
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Just such a weird case. | ||
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Anyone want to....take back a claim? | ||
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Also its possible to have 4 town power roles I suppose its highly unlikely though and since scum roles seem a bit weak I really doubt that one kp+roleblocker would equal mason, vet gunsmith | ||
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Why did you claim FF when you could of gotten a gun to onegu or myself or someone instead of getting rb again? | ||
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You were an innocent child start of the day? | ||
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FF what do we do from here then? Do we lynch into you and LM to see who tells the truth orinto the other unconfirmed like gobble, geript, ls, slam? | ||
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On February 15 2015 06:23 Alakaslam wrote: PAAAAAAHHHHHH this wifom. Can someone rehash why onegu is confirmed? The PR says that you have a partner and you are confirmed. If no one ccs onegu then he is confirmed. | ||
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It is really conceivable that this is the setup. We need to unvote LM and figure out who in Gobbly LS Geript OWS Slam is the scum. Thoughts | ||
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Keirathi (6): raynpelikoneet, liancourt, Alakaslam, LoneMeow, Onegu, FecalFeast gobbledydook (6): Damdred, LightningStrike, Keirathi, sicklucker, geript, ObiWanShinobi LightningStrike (1): gobbledydook This is an interesting eod vote. | ||
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It makes me think its slam and maybe gobble and sl wanted the cred | ||
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On February 15 2015 06:36 Damdred wrote: Final Vote Count Keirathi (6): raynpelikoneet, liancourt, Alakaslam, LoneMeow, Onegu, FecalFeast gobbledydook (6): Damdred, LightningStrike, Keirathi, sicklucker, geript, ObiWanShinobi LightningStrike (1): gobbledydook This is an interesting eod vote. I mean it can't be this easy can it? | ||
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On February 15 2015 06:36 Damdred wrote: Final Vote Count Keirathi (6): raynpelikoneet, liancourt, Alakaslam, LoneMeow, Onegu, FecalFeast gobbledydook (6): Damdred, LightningStrike, Keirathi, sicklucker, geript, ObiWanShinobi LightningStrike (1): gobbledydook This is an interesting eod vote. after some thought....the team I have highlighted makes a moderate amount of sense | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:04 Onegu wrote: I'd lynch OWS over gobble atm Can you tell me why that is? | ||
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Gobble still hasn't done much, SL did vote on gobble d1 but i'm not so sure that its enough o town read someone on, I mean he admits in void that if one person would of switched he would of hammered hts it was just his life was on the line. Here it wasn't so a switch is not out of the narrative. I'm not sure. but its possible. | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:23 Fecalfeast wrote: Gobble as GF actually explains sicklucker's play D2 pretty well but how do you explain SL voting gobble over keir D1? Sicklucker isn't stupid enough to risk a mafia lynch over a free ML is he? What would you take a bet on, Rayn beign able to push his lynch through without me here pushing my lynch. Or gobble going through without someone vocal pushing? | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:27 Fecalfeast wrote: I hear you. Are you saying SL rode the gobble wagon and when it came to crunch time realized he couldn't switch to keir at that point? Ok, fine. I'll vote gobble for now. He made it impossible to switch to keir, and he switched over when rayn was picking his wagon up. He was afking his vote on ows also, so not sure if that means anything. | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:17 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I'm back and we got LM claiming Vet and FF claiming Gunsmith so that means we got 2 more blues more than I thought for such a small game o.o I still okay with lynching Gobble since he did waste his vote on me Day 1 and wasn't trying to talk to us except attacking LM. I still feel like 1 of the blues is lieing but idk which one. ##Unvote ##Vote: Gobble If you are so sure one of the blues is lying though why do you automatically go for gobble instead of trying to figure outw hich one is lying? | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote: I buying your thing on why we might really have 4 blues seeing how that game you told me did have a lot blues.so it's possible but I don't like it for balance reasons. This isn't an aswer though LS, I understand now that's your answer. But at the time of that post why didn't you go after them instead of gobble | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:24 LightningStrike wrote: Like I said he been trying to change his playstyle as far as I remember from Student V but I do have a slight town read based on stuff like his large catch up post and trying to ask questions to people but also he did notice I didn't went full Puppy Mode for a bit and finding it odd on how some of you guys called me town very early. What about his push on obi? | ||
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masons generally are sorta weak in the fact that it doesn't automatically help town. It helps town as two people are confirmed but they still have to use their own logical reasoning skills to figure out the mafia without relying on their powers even if they have a private chat to get things out without mafia interference which is ok but still have to convince the thread. The kill power that town has is really limited, one it takes a whole cycle for the power to really be put into play. If blocked it takes two cycles to really be useful, if that person is killed its totally eliminated. While its a cool role it is a bit weak. Vet is a good role as well but its limited just like the other roles are, it protects itself and not others. I think its pretty balanced it might be a bit town sided but not much as the roles over all are on the weaker side their is no cop or tracker to gather hard evidence and still relies heavier on the logical reasoning of town rather than power usage. So I think all of the claims make sense, and not much else to say about it. | ||
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It should be between Geript, LS and Gobble. Maybe slam but his martyring and some insightful posts have me meh on a slam lynch. | ||
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But it makes slam meh because he's usually a bit more involved as scum and puts survival first. Here he'd rather get lynched it feels loke | ||
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Gobble is an ok lynch I think. Geeipt you just feel weird you are basically policy lynching at this point and not sure why you don't want to hunt in the greens | ||
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There was a theory that the lack of push means a dealt inactive mafia at that point. Rayn thinks scum was in the late voters also on SL. I think it somewhat eliminates slam from the lynch, some things are off about slam he dits into the more inactive but he was a decently early voter on SL and switched to kier. I'd like to not lynch him today and lynch someone else. OWS really tried to push the thread when it was at a lull and pressed for information, I think he's probably town in all actuality and shouldn't be the lynch. This leaves me with a gobble geript or ls by poe. I don't think ls fits into inactive mafia and he's been trying to do things. I'd rather not lynch him. It would be informative as lm+ls would be the only team that makes sense with ls in it. Lm I believe the claim would not lynch at all today. I think lynching gobble has a few great things to it, it gives us a lot of good information that the thread can use. Besides the information gobble still isn't trying to push his own thoughts is being somewhat noncommital, really gave himself room to move out of voting ows and only has basically mentioned ls since even though obi is a coin flip. Gobble is the best lynch today | ||
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On February 16 2015 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I've never actually seen scum!SL in action. Can you guys show me what you're talking about? Look at void mafia. Titanic mafia. For bussing | ||
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And no there are at least two games I can think of that had 4 blues to 3 mafia. Gobble was dead d1 easy to bus and IDK if it would of went through without me here | ||
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At work so kinda slow but not sure scummy to me wasting your vote | ||
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Gobble is a good lynch slam IDK what he is 50/50 idk | ||
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On February 16 2015 04:41 Onegu wrote: Like then slam should be your target. Like do you have a gobble slam scum team? Slam gobble makes sense but Slam is policy blah | ||
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Gobble, lm, LS, ows I would hate to think it's Geript I doubt it though | ||
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Strange d2 | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:01 LightningStrike wrote: Any tips for me Damdred? You looked really towny to me d1 it was only Poe and the misread on the soft, you read most everyone right. You are getting much better | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:12 LightningStrike wrote: How did I look towny Day 1 to you when most of the people were getting null or mafia on me? I guess it means I need to work on my Day 1 a ton. Maybe it's familiarity with your town game, I just thought you looked ok and you were doing work in my eyes. | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:13 Fecalfeast wrote: It's hard to have it on 24/7 man sometimes i get to someone's filter and my brain just refuses to read words. It's ok you played really well | ||
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