EPTDo you really think if i was mafia i would just call some random people mafia just to keep my options open?
Do you really think it's a possibility?
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Do you really think if i was mafia i would just call some random people mafia just to keep my options open? Do you really think it's a possibility? | ||
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On March 03 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote: Yeah reading his filter I didn't see that so it is probably more scummy yeah I didn't like that you left the thread without explaining your reads. Obviously if you thought it was important enough to say those people were mafia it should have been important enough to say why, Are you asking if i think YOU would do that or if anyone would do that? You personally I have no idea. My favorite game ive played of this you were a baller replacement so i naturally have high expectations of you. Like i don't even really see how that is keeping your options open because you have stated a clear scumread for a number of people so if you randomly start town reading them people would be suspicious. Anyway it is getting late I'm going to head off so I'm up for what is realistically going to be the deadline tomorrow Okay so walk me through this. You have said these things (originally) now in the last couple of hours or so: - sandroba is not scummy for doing a scummy thing (yes you even argued for that ^^) - you understood your mom's read on me despite it being completely wrong as i have stated in the thread a numerous times in the last couple of pages - you had the same thought your mom did about me calling people mafia and not explaining it further when:
- you say you don't have an idea if i would throw out random scumreads as mafia. well, you know i do give out scumreads without initially reasoning them as town as i pointed above. You even AGREED with a scumread with me, the Koshi read, regardless of what my reasoning is/was, and now you were calling me mafia for it? Your arguments are really out of place and you are definitely not thinking about the game properly. You are not stupid, which has been proven by your actions in many of the games you have played, so it means you are probably mafia. | ||
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On March 03 2015 23:47 Toadesstern wrote: see what I mean with there's some things that I really agree with and some things I just don't like your read on Sandro? This one is part of the "I really agree with it" group. Those were EXACTLY my thoughts as well  So in your opinion sandroba hasn't done anything? In my opinion he has done things. The things he has done are both bad and not scumhunting. ftr there is absolutely no town player who can argue against my logic regarding the device. it is just not possible someone is that stupid. | ||
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Well Koshi is probably scum then and mafia cannot push anything else. There is pretty much no other answer. | ||
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Now is your time to shine if you are town. | ||
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On March 04 2015 00:37 Half the Sky wrote: I looked through YM's filter, being a smurf, obviously I cannot tell if the guy should be familiar with your play. After playing with you in Titanic, if i recall right though, I don't like his interpretation of you keeping your reads open. It could be townie but inaccurate if this were a newer player but I'm highly doubting it. From what I recall your town game in Titanic, you did hand out a number of different reads based on your observations so I definitely don't think "you're keeping your options open" as scum. From what I recall of you, you aren't the big casemaker type when you give your reads, you only gave one in Titanic when you were effectively forced to. Also the funny thing with YM is with his read on me is that he's clinging onto that opening without really paying attention to the rest of my content like others have. People asked me to give a read since I just spoke what was on my mind and this isnt' the first time that I'll say something and not necessarily post a conclusion in the same post as town. So where he's getting fabricated also looks like a stretch on his end. BINGO! This is exactly what i wanted someone in this game to say. He did the exact same thing with me, took some post(s), didn't look at the rest of the persons posting and made a scumread of it. Anyways there is more but i'll get onto that later | ||
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You are focusing on really irrelevant things over relevant ones. | ||
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I encourage everyone who is town to do that because that dude is 100% mafia. | ||
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His case on me. Read the conversation between us. Not only did i effectively debunk every single piece of his argument with actual reasoning i showed why his case is 100% a forced case that takes things out of context and/or does only account the things that pushes his agenda. Fuck i am really bad at finding the correct words and i am sorry for it but just read the argument between me and him. He literally made a case based on a couple of posts that are (1) towntells for me based on meta and (2) he ignored the rest of my filter which speaks directly against his case. His case on HtS. Same thing here as above. HtS was asked to give a read on someone. She did, yet your mom somehow turns this into "you fabricated a read because you needed to give one". It is at least as likely that HtS gave the read as town because SHE WAS ASKED TO!! She answered a question "what do you think my alignment is". Why is it impossible this is the case here? That -- for a vet player -- should be at worst a null-tell. Now those are his only scumreads in this game. Both are fake. So very fucking fake and badly reasoned. On top of that he refuses to talk about Koshi at all.There is absolutely zero references to Koshi in his filter. Why is this scummy? Because Koshi should be 100% town for this guy. First of all there is no fucking way both Koshi and HtS are mafia in this game because that would mean mafia is not pushing anything, which is a no-go (note this was before the Breshke thing went up). Second, he scumreads we, and i was pushing a Koshi shot at that time. There is no way both of me and Koshi are mafia, so if he scumreads me as strongly as he implies to that should mean he 100% thinks Koshi is town. Yet he makes no attempt to defend Koshi. Townies do not wanna shoot townies. Especially in this case every smart player defends all of their townreads whenever someone puts them up for being shot. Why? Because it gives mafia options. Read the next sentence carefully: If we have like 8 (or even 6) shot targets at the 24h mark, do you think there is any chance we are going to catch mafia in case mafia gets the shot? Right. Yet your mom cannot even say "Koshi is town, because i think you are mafia, and HtS is mafia, neither of you is mafia with Koshi. Don't fucking shoot Koshi". That would be the natural thing to say as town, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TELL THE OTHER TOWNIES NOT TO SHOOT TOWN! Now i don't know if this is because he doesn't want to look bad if Koshi flips mafia, or if he actually wants Koshi shot and not tell people to shoot him as Koshi is a good player as town. But it doesn't matter, Koshi can be dealt with later on. your mom is mafia and should be killed with a bullet asap!!! | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:15 LightningStrike wrote: Also I had learned my lesson to not blind sheep Damdred after Titanic when he was Mafia with the way he made a | ||
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That is why mafia usually calls me bad (to discredit me) rather than mafia. your mom's case is 100% mafia motivated. 100%. one.. hundred... percent... | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:22 geript wrote: I'm more wait and see on Damdred. @Rayn. Think about the sprirts. And think about Ssndroba. That's all I'm going to say. Koshi is dead to me. Kita. Idk. I just idk. There was one point he made that I really liked but I forgot it. Idk. Hard to focus. Don't lose your focus now. We are not going to shoot Koshi and i don't care about sandroba now. We are shooting your mom. | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote: I guessed JAT earlier, but I could be wrong on that. Not JAT either, if he is JAT he is 1423% mafia. | ||
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I don't care because he is dead in about 6h and mafia regardless of who he is. | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:43 kitaman27 wrote: Still haven't read much of koshi since he seems a bit emo this game so I'm not sure if the second part of your argument has merit, but I'll like a look when I have a chance. Koshi's alignment is irrelevant here. | ||
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That doesn't make any sense from town perspective. | ||
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