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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:12 GMT
#1721
I don't think it's shining still.

Maybe Damdred. That shift to breshke was super sudden from an earlier townread.

I'm pretty sure geript is town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:13 GMT
#1722
On January 25 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Geript is cleared he wouldn't pull a second mislynch off a town that's been an almost afk lynch as scum I think. Which is a bit of wifom but hes town, DP is town. So that really narrows down my focus. JarJar is confirmed

Shining, Breshke, Rsoultin.

There are two mafia in there. I think its Breshke and Rsoultin with his unwillingness to switch, LM was acting pretty towny eod.


It's not me, I doubt it's shining, so you're missing a mafia there Damdred.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 22:24 GMT
#1723
On January 23 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:
So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.

On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke is scum.

There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.

On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.

Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.

For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia

5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)

So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).

So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.

I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.


Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.

The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.

There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.


Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.


The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.




The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.

The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?


What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.

At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?


Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?


Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.



Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript

Town lean
The shining

Null
Damdred
DP

Scum
LM

Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town

The lowest DP ends is usually null but more often I remember it more as Breshke giving him a soft town lean. I'm town, rsoultin' town, Shining's town. Like it makes no sense for a Damdred LM scum team. But he's happy about the LM lynch but isn't really thinking how it affects his reads. He's also not really flat analyzing based on filter alone.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 22:26 GMT
#1724
Oh man I'm so excited. Maybe I'll be shot tonight.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:29 GMT
#1725
On January 25 2015 07:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:
So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.

On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke is scum.

There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.

On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.

Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.

For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia

5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)

So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).

So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.

I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.


Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.

The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.

There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.


Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.


The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.




The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.

The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?


What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.

At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.

On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?


Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?


Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?

On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.



Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript

Town lean
The shining

Null
Damdred
DP

Scum
LM

Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town

The lowest DP ends is usually null but more often I remember it more as Breshke giving him a soft town lean. I'm town, rsoultin' town, Shining's town. Like it makes no sense for a Damdred LM scum team. But he's happy about the LM lynch but isn't really thinking how it affects his reads. He's also not really flat analyzing based on filter alone.


hmmm okay. so...I don't know. a damdred LM scum team doesn't make sense, you're right. dp is in the same null category as damdred...

i'll have to see where else breshke has read dp, cause this post doesn't really illustrate your point.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 22:37 GMT
#1726
On January 25 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 07:24 geript wrote:
On January 23 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:
So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.

On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke is scum.

There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.

On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.

Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.

For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia

5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)

So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).

So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.

I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.


Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.

The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.

There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.


Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.


The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.




The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.

The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?


What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.

At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.

On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?


Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?


Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?

On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.



Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript

Town lean
The shining

Null
Damdred
DP

Scum
LM

Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town

The lowest DP ends is usually null but more often I remember it more as Breshke giving him a soft town lean. I'm town, rsoultin' town, Shining's town. Like it makes no sense for a Damdred LM scum team. But he's happy about the LM lynch but isn't really thinking how it affects his reads. He's also not really flat analyzing based on filter alone.


hmmm okay. so...I don't know. a damdred LM scum team doesn't make sense, you're right. dp is in the same null category as damdred...

i'll have to see where else breshke has read dp, cause this post doesn't really illustrate your point.

3/4ths of the people who reasonably could be mafia with LM and the last being null doesn't illustrate that my point that his LM scum team makes no sense.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:45 GMT
#1727
On January 25 2015 07:37 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
On January 25 2015 07:24 geript wrote:
On January 23 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote:
On January 22 2015 19:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:
So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on.

On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke is scum.

There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.

On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.

Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.

For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia

5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)

So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).

So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.

I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.


Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.

The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.

There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.


Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.


The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.




The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.

The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?


What play is there to analyse? You have done almost nothing this entire game.

At EoD1 you put your vote on jarjar because you town read GB. But you didn't want to lynch jarjar before that. I don't think a town just settles like that when there was still some time left during the day. Yes it was only 15 minutes i think so that's a harsh call but you were obviously around because you had time to switch to WW.

On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:36 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?


Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?


Here is twice where you have said you are going to specifically read damdred and geript yet you still have them in your nulls. Did you actually read their filters and not manage to pull an alignment lean one way or the other?

On January 22 2015 19:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.



Town
Rsoultin
JarJar
Geript

Town lean
The shining

Null
Damdred
DP

Scum
LM

Obviously one of my nulls is wrong or im wrong on one of my town lean but im fairly sure geript and rsoultin are town

The lowest DP ends is usually null but more often I remember it more as Breshke giving him a soft town lean. I'm town, rsoultin' town, Shining's town. Like it makes no sense for a Damdred LM scum team. But he's happy about the LM lynch but isn't really thinking how it affects his reads. He's also not really flat analyzing based on filter alone.


hmmm okay. so...I don't know. a damdred LM scum team doesn't make sense, you're right. dp is in the same null category as damdred...

i'll have to see where else breshke has read dp, cause this post doesn't really illustrate your point.

3/4ths of the people who reasonably could be mafia with LM and the last being null doesn't illustrate that my point that his LM scum team makes no sense.


i'd just assume that was why dp was null, cause to me the only thing that had me wondering was his association with trfel and lm...so no, it doesn't really, since dp was in the null section.

which is why I need to find if his other posts with reads are generally towning dp; that would then make sense and illustrate your point
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 22:52 GMT
#1728
okay, I'm going to get something to eat, and reapproach this again late (since I obviously need to reconsider things ><)

if y'all have questions leave them in thread and I'll get to them

players not here during the lynch, your impressions on what happened would be nice
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 23:02 GMT
#1729
Maybe I'm wrong about him townreading DP in later sections, but he did in earlier situations. Even still, doesn't make much sense that he doesn't get LM+DP scum team. LM is mafia for him and DP is 1 of 2 people in the null category and he's townreading the rest. Like LM+Damdred makes little to no sense. LM + DP makes tons of sense and he never really "gets it."
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 24 2015 23:27 GMT
#1730
Sorry I missed EOD guys. I should have been here. I don't know if I would have switched on not. LM definitely stepped it up trying to survive there.

I like geript's analysis above. I'm having some issues with quotes and my compy, so I'm not going to quote It but it is on this page.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
January 24 2015 23:28 GMT
#1731
Geript would your scum team be Breske Damded right now?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 24 2015 23:35 GMT
#1732
FFS this is bs. OK I'm sorry if my posts look constructed and formatted, it is my style of typing. I tried my hardest to get here before EoD but I'm at work with only tablet capability. I'm sick of giving excuses for myself but this is my life right now and I'm sorry. EoD is 5 pm for me, 4-6 are my busiest hours. I was typing up a post before this one half hour before EoD responding to LM and Breshke wanting my read on DP. Here it is.

"LM, Breshke - My townread on DarthPunk is not strong. It is a lean. As someone put it earlier, his early filter was Trfel centric which was a red question mark for me but everything since then has seemed pretty Townie. He wanted to lynch LS and did his own past game diving to evolve his read into a town read, which I agreed with because LS felt to me how he felt in the newbie game. There is also a ton of direct questioning from DP, as well as what seems like genuine effort to solve the game. I do see it possible for scum to question and "solve" the game, too, but going head to head with my pretty strong townread in RSo seems like suicide IMO."

After today, I have to look into what Damdred said about DP not being the type to associate himself so closely by defending scum LM. LM flipped Town so did DP trust his town read or was it vying to buy town credit?

I got busy as hell at work as I was typing what is in the quotations and couldn't finish anything or get back on until now. Now I'm logged into what feels like a shiteshow. I was wrong on LM and I swore he was scum. I'm actually really upset about this because his EoD reminded me of me when I had to defend myself last game out of a mislynch. It would've given me enough pause to think about moving wagons, honestly. Breshke not being here is about as damning as me not being here EoD, yes, but the phone excuse he brought up seems to be really weak.

Also, current discussion on Breshke. In his filter, he blatantly started he had DP as townread D1 and had to rethink it. Null on DP for a while, asks someone for their thoughts on DP. Throws this out there.

On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote:
RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is.


Implies DP is scummy now. Afterward, he questions DP's townread on LM.

On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.

I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.

I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.


By that logic, you're implying DP is scum and wants to align himself with LM because he knows LM will flip town and you also imply Town thinks the only way we scum DP is if LM is scum with him since he defended him so this would exonerate DP.
If you believe your own logic, why did you still case and push LM so hard?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 23:39 GMT
#1733
On January 25 2015 08:28 jarjarbinks wrote:
Geript would your scum team be Breske Damded right now?

no. I don't think that's a reasonable scum team at all.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 25 2015 01:25 GMT
#1734
Yeah so i need to reevaluate a lot of shit.

One thing is very clear though that is that RSo is town 100 percent.

Damdred could you also pelase explain why you didn't want to lynch the shining yet

On January 25 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Geript is cleared he wouldn't pull a second mislynch off a town that's been an almost afk lynch as scum I think. Which is a bit of wifom but hes town, DP is town. So that really narrows down my focus. JarJar is confirmed

Shining, Breshke, Rsoultin.

There are two mafia in there. I think its Breshke and Rsoultin with his unwillingness to switch, LM was acting pretty towny eod.


You consider him in a group of 2/3 mafia straight after the lynch?

Also i can explain the phone thing but its pointless because as scum i would just bullshit anyway


Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 25 2015 01:31 GMT
#1735
Also geript I don;t really understand what you don't get about my DP in that LM trefel scumteam thing though.

I was trying to udnerstand why people only considered DP as scum in a team with LM and trefel. Like no one seems to want to consider that DP could be scum if LM didn't flip scum. This was made extra fucking weird by the fact that he continued to jsut defend LM for almost nothing and then i call him out and he admits he might be wrong. Then LM makes some response to me about paranoia in which he was basically agreeing with my paranoia about DP and DP town reads him for it yet im not town for having the same paranoia? Yeah reading through LM was townie near the end and if I was around i probably would still have been pushing him because i was tunneled as fuck but the DP defense just seemed to come too early before LM started looking townie.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 25 2015 01:35 GMT
#1736
On January 25 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote:
FFS this is bs. OK I'm sorry if my posts look constructed and formatted, it is my style of typing. I tried my hardest to get here before EoD but I'm at work with only tablet capability. I'm sick of giving excuses for myself but this is my life right now and I'm sorry. EoD is 5 pm for me, 4-6 are my busiest hours. I was typing up a post before this one half hour before EoD responding to LM and Breshke wanting my read on DP. Here it is.

"LM, Breshke - My townread on DarthPunk is not strong. It is a lean. As someone put it earlier, his early filter was Trfel centric which was a red question mark for me but everything since then has seemed pretty Townie. He wanted to lynch LS and did his own past game diving to evolve his read into a town read, which I agreed with because LS felt to me how he felt in the newbie game. There is also a ton of direct questioning from DP, as well as what seems like genuine effort to solve the game. I do see it possible for scum to question and "solve" the game, too, but going head to head with my pretty strong townread in RSo seems like suicide IMO."

After today, I have to look into what Damdred said about DP not being the type to associate himself so closely by defending scum LM. LM flipped Town so did DP trust his town read or was it vying to buy town credit?

I got busy as hell at work as I was typing what is in the quotations and couldn't finish anything or get back on until now. Now I'm logged into what feels like a shiteshow. I was wrong on LM and I swore he was scum. I'm actually really upset about this because his EoD reminded me of me when I had to defend myself last game out of a mislynch. It would've given me enough pause to think about moving wagons, honestly. Breshke not being here is about as damning as me not being here EoD, yes, but the phone excuse he brought up seems to be really weak.

Also, current discussion on Breshke. In his filter, he blatantly started he had DP as townread D1 and had to rethink it. Null on DP for a while, asks someone for their thoughts on DP. Throws this out there.

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On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote:
RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is.


Implies DP is scummy now. Afterward, he questions DP's townread on LM.

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On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.

I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.

I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.


By that logic, you're implying DP is scum and wants to align himself with LM because he knows LM will flip town and you also imply Town thinks the only way we scum DP is if LM is scum with him since he defended him so this would exonerate DP.
If you believe your own logic, why did you still case and push LM so hard?


Because all my DP shit was paranoia. His defense of LM was sketchy and so in that world i brought up it would make LM town but im not going to go for the paranoid world im going to lynch who i think is scum. I had reasons i thought LM was scum but i don't have except information so im going to post shit that applies if im wrong.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 25 2015 02:50 GMT
#1737
It's really odd the Breshke isn't flipping the fuck out our anything. Like he was literally 1 vote off of getting lynched. It's like business as usual. That's really funky.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 25 2015 04:39 GMT
#1738
I already said why I think shining is town, by POE those three are my most likely scum team. Shining is town i'm like 95% sure of it so its bresh and Rs im pretty sure.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 25 2015 04:56 GMT
#1739
Bresh how did your phone die at 8:41 am?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 06:01 GMT
#1740
On January 25 2015 13:39 Damdred wrote:
I already said why I think shining is town, by POE those three are my most likely scum team. Shining is town i'm like 95% sure of it so its bresh and Rs im pretty sure.


Okay, so just to be clear here, you're going with all scum being on the town wagon (LM)?

Are you 100% sure that Breshke is scum? I'd like to see why.

I'm obviously not scum -_- Not only is it inherently wrong to say wrong always = scum, but the Breshke lynch was not the only lynch I resisted, which you should very well know. I didn't want to move onto you, Shining or Bresh. That you're trying to sell a scumteam of me and Bresh is almost as scummy as your sudden eagerness to jump to him when you'd been townreading him most of the 48 hrs leading up to the lynch.

The only reason I could have under those circumstances for trying to keep the lynch on LM was because I thought he was scum. Unless you're saying that there are four scum left.

That's just bad, Damdred. I'll look at Bresh again, cause clearly my reads aren't all right, but your eagerness to paint us both scum for a lynch on a town makes me think he isn't and you're trying to get one of us lynched Day 4 to win the game for your scum team.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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