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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:15 GMT
#1410
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:24 GMT
#1414
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:26 GMT
#1417
On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of?


Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes

That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3.

Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:32 GMT
#1419
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 23 2015 23:37 GMT
#1422
On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM

I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.

If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.

I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy.


I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch.

Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 00:48 GMT
#1444
On January 24 2015 09:01 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:37 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM

I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.

If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.

I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy.


I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch.

Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol.


Actually, someone's post on how killing LS before me made more sense than my argument for keeping me alive. Having a 100% town is pretty helpful, despite my not so good reads sometimes lol

I'm uncertain on the damdred vs geript battle going on... if one of those was scum, which one would u choose?


meh, if I had to with a gun to my head right now i'd say damdred, but frankly this is exactly why I want to lynch lm...the third mafia is I don't know who
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 00:58 GMT
#1449
On January 24 2015 09:52 geript wrote:
Meh. Killing lurkers ain't bad. Not sure I want to vote with Damdred though.


You should kill who you think is most likely to flip scum. (obvious statement, I know) But, seriously, if all LM is to you is a lurker policy lynch and you're scumreading someone else, you shouldn't be voting LM anyway. This post makes it seem like you don't really think LM is scum? Or at least any more than any other lurker.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:18 GMT
#1457
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:25 GMT
#1461
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:26 GMT
#1462
On January 24 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of?


Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes

That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3.

Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:27 GMT
#1463
On January 24 2015 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.


Nobody said anything about not lynching your scumread... Nobody said anything about lynching someone based on geripts analysis.

Geript had solid analysis on the night kills, the GB kill makes zero sense and anyone who has played scum before would auto kill JJB imo. I agree with the conclusion that geript made about the scum team probably being noobs.

Why are you having such a strong reaction to this? It can't be because you don;t want to lynch based off his analysis because nobody suggested that.


Clear now?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:30 GMT
#1468
On January 24 2015 10:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 10:25 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.



DID ANYBODY SAY THEY WERE LYNCHING SOMEONE BASED OFF GERIPTS ANALYSIS?

Literally, point to me where anybody in this game said that?

What the fuck dude. You are starting to make zero fucking sense right now.


The better question is what is your problem with me not instantly going OMG you are SO RIGHT to geript? I'm allowed to state my opinion, and that is my opinion: I don't think no CC carries as much weight as he's giving it.

Do you think his point is really that good? I don't think you ever answered that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:38 GMT
#1470
On January 24 2015 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.


Nobody said anything about not lynching your scumread... Nobody said anything about lynching someone based on geripts analysis.

Geript had solid analysis on the night kills, the GB kill makes zero sense and anyone who has played scum before would auto kill JJB imo. I agree with the conclusion that geript made about the scum team probably being noobs.

Why are you having such a strong reaction to this? It can't be because you don;t want to lynch based off his analysis because nobody suggested that.


Clear now?


No. Not really. Repeating yourself when I clearly have no fucking Idea what you are talking about in the first place does not clarify anything for me.


You asked me why I was having a strong reaction to something. From my perspective I'm not responding strongly to it at all. In fact, the opposite is true. I'm not finding his point compelling. Reacting strongly to it would be more along the lines of saying "geript, you have to be mafia or stupid just bringing this up".

I don't think that. I just don't think his point was earth-shattering.

Why do you think this is a strong reaction?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:46 GMT
#1472
On January 24 2015 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.


Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.


Nobody said anything about not lynching your scumread... Nobody said anything about lynching someone based on geripts analysis.

Geript had solid analysis on the night kills, the GB kill makes zero sense and anyone who has played scum before would auto kill JJB imo. I agree with the conclusion that geript made about the scum team probably being noobs.

Why are you having such a strong reaction to this? It can't be because you don;t want to lynch based off his analysis because nobody suggested that.


Clear now?


No. Not really. Repeating yourself when I clearly have no fucking Idea what you are talking about in the first place does not clarify anything for me.


You asked me why I was having a strong reaction to something. From my perspective I'm not responding strongly to it at all. In fact, the opposite is true. I'm not finding his point compelling. Reacting strongly to it would be more along the lines of saying "geript, you have to be mafia or stupid just bringing this up".

I don't think that. I just don't think his point was earth-shattering.

Why do you think this is a strong reaction?


Cause It seems that way to me?

Like if you don't feel that way i'm not going to convince you that you do.


...

No, you're really not going to convince me that I'm feeling something I'm not. Good statement. -_- I'm sorry, but this seems like a very pointless conversation.

I know that you answered my question, but I guess I'm still trying to follow why 1+1 = 3. You honestly think that a GB NK and no CC on JJB = no veterans could possibly be scum?

I mean, it does remove you from suspicion, so I suppose I can see the appeal of the argument to you in that sense, but as I said before this is a coached game. And odd as it may seem to you I don't really see a CC being so outside the realm of thought of new players that they wouldn't consider it. The fact that JJB was RBd and NKd in fact suggests that someone was at least considering CCing him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:47 GMT
#1473
EBWOP:

RBd and not NKd.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 01:56 GMT
#1475
Okay, let's approach this from a different angle.

Who here would have believed a tracker or doctor claim on Day 3, even moments after the day began? The tracker would have known the moment JJB claimed EoD 1, and the doctor should have protected LS. In fact, an NK on LS in and of itself suggests there's no doctor in the game, because it's an obvious save: the claimed cop whose red check flipped scum.

You don't think it would be suicide to CC JJB now? I'd definitely find a CC very unbelievable today.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 02:16 GMT
#1479
On January 24 2015 11:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 10:46 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

Or has less credibility than JJB. Or it's WIFOM. geript, I'm not lynching people based on this type of setup speculation. It's not good play. It's a good reason to look at the new players I'm townreading and consider that I may be wrong, yes, but it's a starting point not an end-all.

LM is my lynch for today. It will take something drastic - or brilliant - to dissuade me from that. I have too many question marks regarding other players.


Why are you having such a strong reaction to geript's analysis here?

Like geript has a good point about the night kills. He isn't calling JJB scum, but you seem to be invested in not talking about this.




Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.


Nobody said anything about not lynching your scumread... Nobody said anything about lynching someone based on geripts analysis.

Geript had solid analysis on the night kills, the GB kill makes zero sense and anyone who has played scum before would auto kill JJB imo. I agree with the conclusion that geript made about the scum team probably being noobs.

Why are you having such a strong reaction to this? It can't be because you don;t want to lynch based off his analysis because nobody suggested that.


Clear now?


No. Not really. Repeating yourself when I clearly have no fucking Idea what you are talking about in the first place does not clarify anything for me.


You asked me why I was having a strong reaction to something. From my perspective I'm not responding strongly to it at all. In fact, the opposite is true. I'm not finding his point compelling. Reacting strongly to it would be more along the lines of saying "geript, you have to be mafia or stupid just bringing this up".

I don't think that. I just don't think his point was earth-shattering.

Why do you think this is a strong reaction?


Cause It seems that way to me?

Like if you don't feel that way i'm not going to convince you that you do.


...

No, you're really not going to convince me that I'm feeling something I'm not. Good statement. -_- I'm sorry, but this seems like a very pointless conversation.


And yet that is what it seemed like you were trying to do. You became very combative when talking about this point from geript. anyway I agree it is a pointless conversation and I have gotten everything I can out of it.


While still avoiding the question I asked you.

Do you
or do you not
think that a GB NK
and a RB on JJB
adds up to
no possible vets
in the scum team?

why?

Maybe if I break it up like that it will be harder to overlook.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 02:36 GMT
#1484
On January 24 2015 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:
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On January 24 2015 11:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:46 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

Is this a good point DP? Do you think the night kills eliminates the possibility of veteran mafia players ever being scum? Where is your cut-off for "veteran"?

This is a coached game, which makes the newbie scum argument less valid anyway, and a pretty obvious play imo. As I said, it's worth taking another look and reconsidering my reads, but it is not good enough alone to lynch on.

I want to get my one pretty sure scumread lynched. It's that simple. If I see someone with a better case that I can verify and makes sense to sheep, sure, but until then I'm going to push that scumread, plain and simple.


Nobody said anything about not lynching your scumread... Nobody said anything about lynching someone based on geripts analysis.

Geript had solid analysis on the night kills, the GB kill makes zero sense and anyone who has played scum before would auto kill JJB imo. I agree with the conclusion that geript made about the scum team probably being noobs.

Why are you having such a strong reaction to this? It can't be because you don;t want to lynch based off his analysis because nobody suggested that.


Clear now?


No. Not really. Repeating yourself when I clearly have no fucking Idea what you are talking about in the first place does not clarify anything for me.


You asked me why I was having a strong reaction to something. From my perspective I'm not responding strongly to it at all. In fact, the opposite is true. I'm not finding his point compelling. Reacting strongly to it would be more along the lines of saying "geript, you have to be mafia or stupid just bringing this up".

I don't think that. I just don't think his point was earth-shattering.

Why do you think this is a strong reaction?


Cause It seems that way to me?

Like if you don't feel that way i'm not going to convince you that you do.


...

No, you're really not going to convince me that I'm feeling something I'm not. Good statement. -_- I'm sorry, but this seems like a very pointless conversation.


And yet that is what it seemed like you were trying to do. You became very combative when talking about this point from geript. anyway I agree it is a pointless conversation and I have gotten everything I can out of it.


While still avoiding the question I asked you.

Do you
or do you not
think that a GB NK
and a RB on JJB
adds up to
no possible vets
in the scum team?

why?

Maybe if I break it up like that it will be harder to overlook.


I ALREADY FUCKING TOLD YOU YOU NONCE


Alright then. If that's what you genuinely think. So you don't think anything I said at all made sense? To you there is no situation/possibility whatsoever to explain those two things but a scum team completely made of noobs.

Well you're definitely not on my list of the most logical players in this game

BTW ^ that is what would be called a strong reaction.

Asking you if your opinion remains the same after presenting a different viewpoint is hardly a reason to yell xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 02:47 GMT
#1488
On January 24 2015 11:43 DarthPunk wrote:
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On January 24 2015 11:36 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 11:16 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 11:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:46 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 24 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

Clear now?


No. Not really. Repeating yourself when I clearly have no fucking Idea what you are talking about in the first place does not clarify anything for me.


You asked me why I was having a strong reaction to something. From my perspective I'm not responding strongly to it at all. In fact, the opposite is true. I'm not finding his point compelling. Reacting strongly to it would be more along the lines of saying "geript, you have to be mafia or stupid just bringing this up".

I don't think that. I just don't think his point was earth-shattering.

Why do you think this is a strong reaction?


Cause It seems that way to me?

Like if you don't feel that way i'm not going to convince you that you do.


...

No, you're really not going to convince me that I'm feeling something I'm not. Good statement. -_- I'm sorry, but this seems like a very pointless conversation.


And yet that is what it seemed like you were trying to do. You became very combative when talking about this point from geript. anyway I agree it is a pointless conversation and I have gotten everything I can out of it.


While still avoiding the question I asked you.

Do you
or do you not
think that a GB NK
and a RB on JJB
adds up to
no possible vets
in the scum team?

why?

Maybe if I break it up like that it will be harder to overlook.


I ALREADY FUCKING TOLD YOU YOU NONCE


Alright then. If that's what you genuinely think. So you don't think anything I said at all made sense? To you there is no situation/possibility whatsoever to explain those two things but a scum team completely made of noobs.



Stop putting words in my mouth.


Lol, this was what I asked you earlier, a couple times, which you kept answering with your former post before our conversation even began. It's hardly putting words in your mouth. If you intended to answer differently you had every opportunity to.

Push me then, DP. Since this conversation makes me scum.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 02:51 GMT
#1489
There is a difference between saying something probably means something, and saying that there's no other possible situation. Please reread my posts. I was asking you if you thought that meant it wasn't possible for vets to be on the scum team.

Because if you still think it's possible then that's exactly what I think, and that's exactly why I don't think geript's point is enough to incriminate certain people and exonerate others.

Am I making sense to you? Or are you determined to fight with me to the bitter end? lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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