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On January 23 2015 14:01 jarjarbinks wrote: Nope lol She could fool me any day of the week though lol Oh, psht. Play a game with me where I'm actually scum and then you can have a say xP I'm just assuming my tone read on you is good until proven otherwise. Where you at on your reads, bro? | ||
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On January 23 2015 14:06 geript wrote: Not really no, Still think DP is town. I miss your analysis posts xP Sheeping bresh on LM almost seemed defeatist of you. Penny for your thoughts? | ||
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On January 23 2015 14:28 DarthPunk wrote: Kinda want to lynch Shining. Small filter and all his posts look carefully constructed. Okay, what makes him more scummy than anyone else? What part of his posting gives you the "formulaic" feeling? | ||
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Really that WW vote alone is almost enough for me. A lot of the other players were being much more productive, pushing reads or at least encouraging people off townreads, during the vote. With nothing townie jumping out at me from LM's dinky filter anyway, I'm fairly confident of this one. ##vote: LoneMeow | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:10 DarthPunk wrote: Have you read his filter. Basically every post of his reads as careful. Also he is posting less. Those are both traits of newer scum players. I have read his filter. Have you read his fit at GB and Damdred? Doesn't seem fake to me. The more relevant question I suppose is what makes Shining more scummy than LM? Or LM more townie than Shining? | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:10 geript wrote: It takes idk 2-3 hours to make those posts. I don't feel like putting 2-3 hours into each specific post like that especially when people seem to not actually read them. If there are good points that are worth sheeping, then you sheep unless you find something better. It's just good play. I can buy this. I think I've seen you say this somewhere before. Imperial, probably. Still, gave me a much better idea of where you were at in the game lol. | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:20 DarthPunk wrote: I said before that I thought LM looked townie for a few of his posts, That hasn't changed just because the thread collectively decided he was scum. Also he seems to be putting in effort. And trying to solve the game. Like I could be wrong. But I just prefer a Shining lynch. The read of yours I called bad? lol Calling him town for changing his vote when it was brought to his attention that his read on Bresh was based on complete misinformation? Anything else making you think he's town? | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote: I don't get the impression that he is trying to solve the game at all he has four nulls and i don't see anywhere that he is trying to work out their alignments. I personally don't consider four posts, two of which are a static scum read and the other two one-liners, a real attempt to solve the game, myself. The Shining comment was worth noting and investigating, but beyond that...most of his filter consists of questions without direction and few if any real reads. | ||
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then turning around in the same post and also townreading him for rescinding his vote when this was brought to his attention... is just objectively a bad read. I'm surprised you're still hanging onto it. That's why I wanted to know if you have anything else convincing you he's town. Cause I definitely can't get behind you on that -_- | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:35 geript wrote: TBH, I kinda don't know where I am on Damdred. That has me questionable a bunch of things. Like I think you and Breshke are town. JJB is town unless there's a retard blue out there. Essentially we have 3 lynches to kill 4 people. So it's just kinda a matter of figuring out which person is most likely to be town of DP, Damdred, Shining, LM. DP's the most likely town imo, next I would guess is Shining. Between LM and Damdred it's a pretty simple lynch. We have to kill LM at some point. I like Breshke's points on him although Damdred was apparently pissed that they were your/damdred's points on N1 and I missed it but eh. I like Bresh and Shining for town. It's my silly BS meter again. I probably haven't explained my BS meter well, but their voting/pushes lined up well with where they were going in-thread before and during the lynch. Bresh in particular picked up his game when most of us were content to lynch the red check. I don't know about Damdred either. I don't think he's oozing town by any means, and poe points to him cause apart from LM I think I have decent reasons to tr everyone else, or at least think it through several times before scumming them. Can I ask you to do something for me? Cause I'm thinking you're town, genuinely. Your tone keeps throwing me off sometimes, but I have that problem with some players. Like, I expected a get the trfel reaction rather than a why am I not dead reaction from that red check. But what I'd like you to do, if you're willing, is to take a step back and just consider this game as if it's possible your read on DP is wrong. He's been sheeping you a ton-a-bunch. You know him better than anyone else in this game. Does he normally follow you around like a lost puppy even when it looks like he does seem to actually have opinions of his own? Is it possible that your townreading him might explain why you haven't been NKd? If you still think he's town after reconsidering it I can respect that. You know him better. The sheeping is really bugging me, though. It's like, the one main reservation I have about him. Cause all the vets scream at me that NKs are WIFOM, lol. | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:53 DarthPunk wrote: How am I sheeping geript a bunch? I switched onto some random and then we lynched a confirmed scum. Now I am wanting to lynch someone he thinks is town. That is like a complete misrepresentation of what is actually happening. Is it? You've made it clear you don't want to lynch LM and would prefer Shining, yes. But what about the rest of the game? The vote switch onto WW? Why not JJB? While most of us seem to be talking out our reads, I get the impression you're trying to consolidate yours with his, particularly Day 1. Your filter seems very townie, it's true. I still think that. I like most of your analysis this game. Even your push on GB. But you really have been buddying up to geript and I think he's in the best position to evaluate whether or not that play is normal from you. | ||
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On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote: RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is. I do. I agree Shining is hard to read, however I did make the effort to read it and I'm not interpreting it as careful like he is. The rage against Damdred and GB, then the effort to make reads on geript and myself to determine which one of us is scum (when we're both generally townread and very vocal) do not seem like careful plays to me, even if he did townread us anyway after going back through. More to the point, I do not understand his LM read at all. He's not making an effort to sell it to me. If he really thinks LM is town and going to be mislynched, you'd think he'd try harder, even with us dumb noobs, to get us to see what he's seeing xP | ||
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On January 23 2015 16:03 DarthPunk wrote: I buddy up to people I think are strong players. Read any of my town games with rayn or geript I'll let him make that assessment rather than trying to read a game I was never part of. | ||
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On January 23 2015 16:27 geript wrote: I've said that I could be wrong about DP before. I still don't really see that world existing. Alright. You know him best. | ||
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On January 23 2015 20:54 DarthPunk wrote: I also am paranoid that everyone in the game seems to be on the LM wagon aside from me which means scum has to be on his wagon, and I have no idea why scum would bus straight after losing trifel. I had this problem before with my first game with Bresh, and pushed a scum wagon, but the original train also turned out to be scum. If it was someone other than LM I'd be more concerned, or if the main point against LM was filter size/inactivity, making it a policy lynch... You may be right, but provided he is scum, it would be hella difficult to defend him, I think, and trying might make it really easy to find the third scum. My instinct when wagons are too easy is to find a new train, too, but I honestly see nothing redeeming about LM. I'll need something more concrete on Shining to support a Shining lynch, though. You called his post mostly meh with a sprinkling of town -shrugs- I'm not seeing how that makes him scum? And I'm not seeing the carefulness in his filter you were talking about, or why that couldn't come from town as well. | ||
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On January 24 2015 00:22 geript wrote: Fuck that. We're lynching Damdred today. Like the dude literally can't make his mind up on anyone. If I had a nickle for every time he's waffled his read on me then I'm pretty sure I'd have $2. Seriously Damdred which reads haven't you gone all squiggle legs on? And every time you change your reason for changing views on someone. I don't think I've ever seen someone who's town change their opinions so much in a game. Damdred has literally not read a single filter since his "let's lynch LM" post at the beginning of the day. It's not like he read a filter on D2 either. D1, idk. But with as much flipping his views on everyone he does, I don't think so. The main reason Damdred should've been lynched in Imperial was lack of doing shit he usually does as town. Usually he's pretty active as town, which he's not really been since D2. Usually he has some goddamn shitty opinion that he pushes, here he's not really pushing anything, his goddamn shitty opinion is extra shitty AND he can't even make up his fucking mind on his goddamn shitty opinion. Damdred has played long enough and has been in this game long enough to have a read to hang his hat on. That's not really there. On top of that this fucking sleezeball was willing to die for his townread that claimed VT. Like townies don't ever EVER do that. They know their reads can be wrong. Plus, he wasn't really doing any sort of anything to convince anyone else to vote for anyone on D1. Like the only redeeming point that Damdred has is that he seemingly wants to kill LM. #stopthebullshit #lynchtheperpetuallyundecided #hisbloodforthebloodgod ##unvote ##vote Damdred Is this your real opinion or kneejerk? I don't hate a Damdred lynch, but I'm not nearly as certain he'd flip scum right now. :/ Also...I don't know how scummy going for someone who is townread by the majority is vice one of the easier players to get lynched. Is changing your mind alignment indicative? Also, just as a general statement, in my mind JJB is all but 100% confirmed. Any blue who did not immediately come out with LS' death and railroad JJB needs to die 1000 vigi deaths for major suckage. Especially if they claim doc. LS was the obv nk as a claimed cop with a confirmed red check. I'd actually straight up lynch a CC at this time without a moment's remorse lol. (Damdred, I'm not sure I agree with your geript read, but I'll check into it closer later. I have to go now.) | ||
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On January 24 2015 07:41 geript wrote: I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through. Where you headed with this? | ||
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On January 24 2015 07:49 geript wrote: Idk if anywhere honestly. Just weird that they leave a confirmed town around. I get the argument of who it is and they have to kill him at some point. This far into D3 they can't even CC him. Plus the GB kill as really bad. It almost gets me thinking that all the mafia team is inexperienced with dealing with endgame situations. So maybe it could be LM/Shining or similar. It feels important. I wish I knew why though. -shrugs- JJB is all but confirmed town (only situ he isn't is if we have a really dumb blue hanging around somewhere). NKs are WIFOM. If the intent was to give no information I think that succeeded. Maybe the answer is in a unique read he had at the time? | ||
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On January 24 2015 07:56 geript wrote: But if they had someone ready to CC on D2 then why not claim medic at start of D3? Like it makes no sense. geript, explain to me how it makes sense that JJB is scum this game. that is where this line of questioning ends. | ||
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