VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint

On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.

On November 21 2014 03:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
where is my filter linked? i dont see that

On November 21 2014 04:49 Fecalfeast wrote:

cuz ur a donkey

On November 21 2014 04:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay I'll accept your olive branch but less blue hunting and random percentages that don't help, please.

On November 21 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

what's my usual scumshit?

On November 21 2014 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you are going by meta you need to tell how my play is different from my mafia play so go ahead plz...

On November 21 2014 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
Random ok heres who I like.

Rayn- Like his reads doing his usual aggressive townshit the fact he was the first one to call ve town I liked verymuch
FF- He accepted peace after a rocky game thats very towny to me
ve- Insanely confident I have a hard time believing he goes that hard on nothing if hes mafia.
ritoky - My top town I think Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee.

Who I dont like

Lian- Pretty self explanatory+ I already said why
templar - Said a few posts back
Holyflare - Over defensive not willing to commit to a scum read

Rest are null

On November 22 2014 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I won't lynch anyone today other than these (in order of preference):

Sick licker
Killer SOS
Ritoky
Chez
Hopeless

On November 22 2014 07:18 The_Templar wrote:

You only said Damdred could be scum. You literally said only that.

On November 22 2014 07:54 Holyflare wrote:


PROVE it

On November 22 2014 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:

indeed, and sicklucker could do more;

@ Lian: Srs no reads or nothing? Join the game yo
@ Sicklucker: Explain the damdred read. I am one of those people you mention who reads him as town.

Just as you do not understand my read I do not understand yours; make a case if his keyboard has such cooties hey?

On November 22 2014 08:10 sicklucker wrote:
Wow I want to vote killer

On November 22 2014 09:23 sicklucker wrote:


Ya I dont like damdred at all so far his game has all been one liners that are either asking someone about templar or asking someone about me. like hes trying to push an agenda for a mislynch on the targeted players without committing anything. He also never adds anything about us he just wants to get people talking about us. He has no town reads he might have one scum read on me but even thats not very clear.

On November 22 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote:


I don't know right now because we're lynching hopeless. I don't have time to rethink or reread anyone else I'm pretty damn near passing out

On November 21 2014 04:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kinda like rayn's posts on templar. Can anyone tell me how many games templar has played? If not I'll just check the database.

I'll admit I skimmed over a few of the essays people posted but from what I can tell VE is cool, rayn is cool, HF is ok, cheeze disappeared after realizing his art is inferior to mine so meh/null. Lian is lame but probably just lame town like others have said. Does slam have any meta regarding activity? It seems he has excuses for now but I wish he would post more.

I kinda want to policy lynch licksucker but that's based on an active game so it can wait.

no hard scumreads atm but people I will be looking at:
sicklucker
templar
hopeless
slam
cheeze sandwich
and the lurkers

and yes I am caught up

On November 22 2014 14:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
killer would have been lynched even if I switched to hopeless, right?

On November 23 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
im sitting here saying slam, gb and hopeless are mafiaish and rayn is saying its templar and now you're agreeing with absolutely everything?!?!?

On November 23 2014 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn I didn't vote Templar because I feel he is townish. I can't exactly understand why. It looks that he is trying to contribute.

Sick lucker is completely strange. He said he will sheep Rayn earlier, but then he admits all veterans are looking scummy, now he says I was voting for 2 towns (him and VE).

1) he is completely sure that VE is town, which is weird
2) but he said veterans are scummy. Wat?????

Now just because HF is making unflipped association and saying I am mafia, sick lucker agrees with him.

Lol.

On November 23 2014 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:


lol.

I'm lynching you.

On November 23 2014 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:

what do you want to hear?

On November 23 2014 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like mafia used the luger pistol to shoot both me and holyflare and the doctor saved the dude who was not wrong on D1.

On November 24 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote:
sicklucker
OK, I have a usable meta read on SL now that Campus mafia has finished, so now I'm re-evaluating what I think of him.

As town, he was extremely confident in how town he was, and basically used that "fact" in order to make cases and form reads. He also pretty much ignored WIFOM to do this.
+ Show Spoiler +
The list goes on. He also defended himself by saying "I would never do X if I was mafia so I must be town" in various ways. So basically, he based the entire game on him being town and actually took action based on this.

He also read players based on their actions based on their reads instead of commenting that these actions should be looked at by other people. So, his thoughts, however bad they might have been, were at least out there before he asked for opinions, at least when the people he was commenting on were talking about him in some way.

Now, let's look at this game.

+ Show Spoiler +
As you can see, his play has been completely different. He seems to suddenly not confirm he's town all the time, but instead keeps pulling the newbie card. Since he barely did this at all in Campus, it's very suspicious that he would suddenly lose all confidence in his town play as town.
He did not re-evaluate for any of the first four after the previous game ended as those four posts were before Campus mafia LYLO was finished.

So, my belief is that he has been playing completely differently than how he played in Campus at almost the same time, and is therefore a different alignment.

Additionally, I agree with a lot of this case by Damdred, which is a decent scum read on SL.

On November 24 2014 01:31 The_Templar wrote:
Thank god someone actually saw that hole in the logic. It was intentional.

I am not having fun this game.

On November 24 2014 10:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I would lunch SL or slam too

On November 23 2014 07:12 Serejai wrote:
fecalfiesta
11-19-2014
02:20 PM ET (US)
If sicklucker ends up being town, I'm gonna try to policy lynch him in the paint mafia

lol.

On November 24 2014 22:26 ritoky wrote:


huh so it seems you did, guess i missed this somewhere. my bad. why the hell did no one follow up on this thought at all????????????

who was around when you posted this and just accepted it as fact? like why wouldn't people be skeptical especially those in the last game?

On November 25 2014 03:12 GlowingBear wrote:


It's good. I just can see it coming from town perspective also.
Specially number 2. It's like the notes thing on hearthstone.

Meh...

I don't know, I can perfectly see him as scum, but I have this feeling that he may be town for the things I've already said.
Anyway, [b]I want to know if there is anyone besides me townreading Templar[b/].

On November 25 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:


so do you not have a scum read on templar?




nope you do, cuz almost everyone in the thread is scum reading templar except GB; so why is it that you can't be bussed but you believe templar can be?

On November 25 2014 08:02 Damdred wrote:
Because hes scum ritoky, him and templar are possibly both scum hes willing to lynch templar in one post but now hes backing off and trying to direct elsewhere

On November 25 2014 02:18 sicklucker wrote:
Alright if you switch to templar I will as well then. His "trap" was really bad as ive already posted and I dont think it was really a trap (already voting gb)

On November 25 2014 08:43 ritoky wrote:
why are both of you placing so much more effort into that other game and not this one? your filter in the other game is already 1/4 of yours in this game damdred, and dat game only been up for like 30 minutes.

On November 25 2014 12:43 GlowingBear wrote:


I have from 0 to 9 on my keyboard.

Slam, you're scum because you're not trying to solve the game and not putting town on the right track with solid and insightful considerations. Period.

On November 26 2014 02:22 GlowingBear wrote:
You also don't seem to have any really genuine thoughts. You mostly parrots people scumreads. You say I'm suck because I'm voting you. Wow. People that vote for Killer were also town. Can you see how off this read is?

On November 26 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote:
we should lynch SL tommorow i think its the best thing to do

On November 26 2014 18:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, I was roleblocked N1 and used that to see if continuing the afk lurker game would get me killed since I thought they were blue reading me. Better afkfecalfeast than a real blue, right?

SL being RB'd makes him a good town for now but why did mafia think medic was between SL and Lian? I had ritoky or Chezinu as blues myself.

On November 27 2014 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

FF is never going to be mafia.
There were 3 blockable roles on N1. There is pretty much no mafia team in this world that doesn't use the roleblock on N1 because of "town credit". FF was not suspected for many people (tbh pretty much the only thing that mattered was me + Holyflare because we were actually starting to agree with each other). Neither of us thought he was scum, hell we were even both pushing townies as our #1 suspect so there is no reason NOT to try roleblock a possible medic/cop (vigi was gonna shoot into town anyways - regardless of who that was, because top 2 suspects were Hopeless and Templar).

I don't know about SL's claim. The fact is they were bluehunting because they shot liancourt. But idk, if they believed him to be medic why not shoot for example me? It is perfectly possible that sicklucker is indeed mafia but that is for later. I think him and GB should be taken a hard hard look into because GB is saying dumb stuff. LIKE REALLY DUMB!!!

There is no other possibilities for mafia. I wanna see what scum does now, but we are definitely lynching Chezinu today.

On November 27 2014 03:16 GlowingBear wrote:


And chez. Funny how in your mind you forgot to put chez. It's like you know he isn't the medic.

Scum slip.

On November 27 2014 00:54 GlowingBear wrote:


...

VE, you'll probably have to convince Rayn that I'm town be dude he is refusing to see it.

On November 27 2014 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You sound like Elvis! but you're not a total noob so you are probably mafia then.
For the record, if you have four people to choose four scum from, there are no "weak" reads.
There can't be weak reads if you think everyone else is town and there are STRONG reasons to think so.

On November 29 2014 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
All I have to say I've already said, ritoky.

I can't do much more.

What do you want from me?

On November 29 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote:


do you think we should lynch into you/ff/SL while there are still confirmed townies alive?

also, in your list post of town rankings, you had chez above BOTH FF and SL (even though both had claimed to be rb'd); and the only reason you had chez in mafia was because he claimed medic (which he hasn't fully stood by? cuz he hasn't done anything?). Why did you have chez above both of them?

On November 29 2014 10:02 Fecalfeast wrote:

Since we didn't hit the roleblocker, though, we are in lylo again tomorrow unless somehow we get a save. How is lynching into the unconfirmed players better than lynching the most likely mafia?

On November 29 2014 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:


I do NOT understand your logic.
If we lynch the most likely mafia, we have the largest % chance of the game continuing.
If we lynch into the question mark crew, we have the largest % chance of losing the game.

On November 29 2014 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:


I do NOT understand your logic.
If we lynch the most likely mafia, we have the largest % chance of the game continuing.
If we lynch into the question mark crew, we have the largest % chance of losing the game.

On November 29 2014 11:32 ritoky wrote:


why are you talking to FF like he is confirmed town? why does he get the hammer? if it is f3 with 3 question marks, it's on all 3 of them to figure it out, why is everything suddenly on FF in your eyes?

anywayz to explain to FF why I am even entertaining the thought of lynching into the group of 3 versus the very likely mafia as an option is because there will be at least 2 confirmeds in the game next phase and at least 1 the following phase. that way you have a known town who can lead the discussion and the town votes. Also, as of right now I trust rayn and VE's judgment over any of the 3 of you in the context of this game.

Essentially the upside of lynching into the group of 3 before all the confirmed townies are dead is that you have confirmed townies leading the votes and discussion and it is much easier to see dynamics. Basically you have people that you don't have to be skeptical of and you know for certain are scum hunting.

The downside is that the group of 3 is the least likely to find mafia, and the sooner you do it the less information is available to those who are making the decision on that group.

It's a personal CBA (cost-benefit-analysis) for all players and what they prefer, plus gauging reactions to ideas or seeing who ignores them entirely is simply more information to scum or town read people for.

On November 29 2014 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
All I have to say I've already said, ritoky.

I can't do much more.

What do you want from me?

On November 29 2014 11:44 GlowingBear wrote:
SL, let's play another game: who are you going to vote in the final 3, if final three is me and ff?

On November 29 2014 11:54 Fecalfeast wrote:

I made the poor decision to /in a game where I knew that if I rolled VT I wouldn't give a shit.

Explain to me how you were a leader last game, lol.

On November 25 2014 05:56 sicklucker wrote:
Heres what I thinks happening. Mafia is trying to push a lynch on me. Heres the people who scum read me.

hard
gb
temp
damdred
slam

soft
ff
chez

People who dont are all pretty much the confirmed towns to me and have not suggested im scum. In my mind theres a 100% chance four of them are mafia. Do you really think im getting bussed by 3 mafia?

On November 26 2014 04:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think slam and gb are scum, too. Am i the one with the poop? I should be eating it, if so

On November 29 2014 19:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh, but he said there was another option, I already said he's saying sicklucker and I are mafia

On November 29 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker fucked off so he is probably the other scum.
and not even probably but 99% likely.

On November 29 2014 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sicklucker looks the best of the two rb claims to me, and he just seems more townie than FF. If we lynch into the RB claims I lynch FF in that situation.

On November 22 2014 09:23 sicklucker wrote:


Ya I dont like damdred at all so far his game has all been one liners that are either asking someone about templar or asking someone about me. like hes trying to push an agenda for a mislynch on the targeted players without committing anything. He also never adds anything about us he just wants to get people talking about us. He has no town reads he might have one scum read on me but even thats not very clear.

On November 22 2014 10:09 sicklucker wrote:
Does chez not talk. Is that like his meta? He literally voted me because I said rayn gave a random town read on him for voting on holy or hope.

On November 22 2014 14:01 sicklucker wrote:
FF why did you vote me anyway. I basically played the same this game if anyone here knows im a standard terrible town its you...

On November 26 2014 18:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, I was roleblocked N1 and used that to see if continuing the afk lurker game would get me killed since I thought they were blue reading me. Better afkfecalfeast than a real blue, right?

SL being RB'd makes him a good town for now but why did mafia think medic was between SL and Lian? I had ritoky or Chezinu as blues myself.

On November 25 2014 13:20 Fecalfeast wrote:

that actually makes sense.... I'm stunned

On November 25 2014 12:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm here I'll vote cheeze sammich, slam, gb, or templar

On November 30 2014 09:51 ritoky wrote:


you were talking to FF like he was confirmed town, telling him he had the hammer @ final 3, and GB was 100% scum. now FF is the scum. thoughts?

On November 30 2014 14:34 ritoky wrote:
@FF: I would like you to explain to me how you got from here:



To here:



specifically i would prefer if you comment on how rayn went from scum to town, how GB went from town to possibly mafia, and how your read on damdred evaporated into thin air. however, i would like to hear as much of the process as you will tell me.

On December 01 2014 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry guys. Mafia didn't let me shoot so I could hammer them. The one who would be confident in that action is sicklucker.

FF sheeped mafia onto me. Does mafia do that? When it was pretty obvious where the lines were drawn?

On December 01 2014 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:

Yes it was clearly a joke. I'm just saying I think you're mafia because I don't think FF does that as mafia. GG bra.

On December 01 2014 17:54 GlowingBear wrote:
You've became obvious mafia to me when chez changed his vote from you to Templar lol
The noob claim + being confident also convinced me.

It's a shame nobody reads what I post