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On September 24 2014 16:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't see why suggesting pairs by sign up order means anything with regard to his alignment - are you suggesting that the pairs have some bearing on alignment outside of the given possible layouts? Do tell if so, I've never been in a game that could be broken before.
Well if he's mafia, in the 1 pair then he knows another set. If he's in the 2 pair, then he's less likely to propose that. The spontaneous nature of how quickly it came out is a bit for me.
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On September 24 2014 16:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Not really. It's just really fucking off.
? Huh. I don't get what you're referencing. Swear I'm going to sleep here soon.
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I get where you're coming from Hapa re: tone. It just feels really weird for you to make a good logical post re:VE calling Damfred town bros and on the same page as him to the tone read. Something that's definitely, IMO, not really quite in your wheelhouse and less odd from VE as either alignment.
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On September 24 2014 17:01 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 17:00 geript wrote:
I get where you're coming from Hapa re: tone. It just feels really weird for you to make a good logical post re:VE calling Damfred town bros and on the same page as him to the tone read. Something that's definitely, IMO, not really quite in your wheelhouse and less odd from VE as either alignment. Are you saying I don't do tone reads? huh?
I can't really remember you doing them in any of the games I've played or read. I've always remembered you as logical and methodical.
I actually am pretty sure on my read on VE. I want to sleep on it though.
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On September 24 2014 17:03 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 17:00 geript wrote:
I get where you're coming from Hapa re: tone. It just feels really weird for you to make a good logical post re:VE calling Damfred town bros and on the same page as him to the tone read. Something that's definitely, IMO, not really quite in your wheelhouse and less odd from VE as either alignment. I really don;t get what you are saying here.
The switch from "objectively odd thing in VE's filter" to "odd tone read" isn't something I've seen from Hapa before as best I can recall. It's like a switch from "mafia logic" to "mafia feels." Maybe I've shoehorned Hapa into an incorrect idk generalization, but the first point is semi-convincing whereas the second one is less convincing and even more so coming from Hapa.
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On September 24 2014 17:08 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 17:05 geript wrote:On September 24 2014 17:01 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 17:00 geript wrote:
I get where you're coming from Hapa re: tone. It just feels really weird for you to make a good logical post re:VE calling Damfred town bros and on the same page as him to the tone read. Something that's definitely, IMO, not really quite in your wheelhouse and less odd from VE as either alignment. Are you saying I don't do tone reads? huh? I can't really remember you doing them in any of the games I've played or read. I've always remembered you as logical and methodical. I actually am pretty sure on my read on VE. I want to sleep on it though. What is your VE read? I read your filter and it wasn't all that clear.
I'll give it in the morning. I'll post it in QT so M&M can confirm it hasn't changed. I'd like to have a bit more from VE to be sure but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
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Also fwiw Hapa, on the face it doesn't look good. But I've seen townies do something like that a bunch.
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I want to play devil's advocate for a second. Before going to bed I was really gung-ho about VE being mafia. Specifically, my experience with townVE is that when he's trolly and active (which I'm super happy to see again btw) there's an underscore of "I will motherf'ing lynch you bish" to it. Something that I specifically noticed was lacking earlier. More damning though IMO was his accusation. Specifically, when VE is mafia (perhaps I should say when VE used to be mafia) he often tried to turn people's pushes back on themselves. He tried to pull it in Boardwalk and definitely did it in Nomination. It was such that when I saw VE's post I instantly thought he was mafia.
All that said, after catching up from sleeping I'm far less confident in that read right now.
Prome feels towny but his initial post made me want to lynch him. MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet. Abuse's entry make me happy to lynch him.
Need to put on my glasses and reread from comp a few times.
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On September 25 2014 03:40 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 03:26 geript wrote:
. MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet.
You either share your gum with the entire class, or don't chew it in front of everybody.
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On September 25 2014 03:38 abuse wrote:
geript - explain why my entry makes you happy to lynch me?
1. Because there's no clear rhyme or reason to what you're posting. You're not going through methodically chronologically. You're also not going through in a thought process way (e.g. Me-> Hapa->DP->VE).
2. You're just commenting on things in a bland way that can end up in any sort of direction.
3. On first reading I'm kinda convinced by VE but would rather lynch you than test the waters with Hapa as I think the scum/scum pair is probably you/hapa or Oats/damdred.
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Hapa/Yam/Prom/VE. Do you guys remember the name of the game when Palmer and DP were mafia and they bussed 1-2 partners? HF and DP were going at it all D1 and maybe D2 as well. I can't remember it off the top of my head but I want to look at that game again specifically because I might actually be wrong on my DP read.
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Found it MSpaint. I forgot how much fun it was making those vote counts.
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Good news, I remembered one of my meta reads on DP. Still think he's town.
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You played in Nomination Yam. Do you disagree on VE's read on Hapa being very similar? You've essentially ignored giving any opinion on both from what I can recall. I'll be back later. Might cube for a bit and need to get the oil changed in my car.
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On September 25 2014 04:37 Damdred wrote:
I don't like that pairing though, I wish Geript would talk with me why he has mine and oats group down for the mafia team currently that bothers me.
You seem to sling stuff and then just leave the thread or never respond to it
It's mostly just PoE. I think the mafia-mafia pair right now is likely to be you/oats or hapa/abuse. TBH, I've mostly ignored you because I think the last 2 games I've incorrectly read you as mafia when you're town.
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On September 25 2014 04:45 yamato77 wrote:
Geript, how do you think I read VE?
Magic 8 ball. No clue. I can't remember a game where I've seen how you read VE. For me, there's not a push from you that I can think of as more than just a prod to see how he responds.
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On September 25 2014 04:46 Damdred wrote:
Thats liek such a narrow focus for what 18 hours into the game? 21? Isn't it way to early for that?
Meh, I think Yam is town; I'm prety sure Prome is town too. I pretty sure DP is town. I'm hook line and sinker that Grack is town; which is somewhat confirmed by the Prome/DP reading Kush as town. CR is most likely 3P. That narrows down the double mafia pair down quite well.
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On September 25 2014 04:55 yamato77 wrote:
So those posts where I call VE mafia give you no clue?
Coming from you, yes. You quite often just make these meh pushes that you often retract.
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On September 25 2014 01:55 yamato77 wrote:
Town VE wouldn't be this confident in an early D1 scum read : /
On September 25 2014 01:57 yamato77 wrote:
VE, y u gotta be mafia.
On September 25 2014 02:01 yamato77 wrote:
VE, we were townbros last game. You can't fool me with this forced confidence. Fake bravado is a hallmark of your scum play.
Yes Yam. This is not a good push on VE. There's nothing that would convince anyone of 1. you being serious about it or more importantly 2. you being right. So yes, that why I specifically asked about VE's push and likened it to Nomination and Boardwalk. Yes that's why I'm actually fine with MM1 pushing on both Hapa and VE. I don't think either are obviously town (even thought I'm treating Hapa as if I have a green check on him right now). I just don't terribly love either and I'm not in any way sure that either are mafia.
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On September 25 2014 06:33 yamato77 wrote:
Hapa saying exactly what I thought in long form.
This might be true. It does make me feel a lot better about hapa.
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