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On September 29 2014 06:24 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 06:13 geript wrote:On September 29 2014 05:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I really haven't seen any decent reasoning for me being mafia. Everyone is complaining about me being useless but I think I've been objectively more useful than most players this game. I didn't write a case day1, but I did contribute to VE getting lynched. I suggested to Prom that VE was the reasonable lynch to consolidate on to before Prom started telling people to vote VE and before Hapa came back to get more votes on VE. If it looked like someone I didn't want to be lynched was going to be lynched and I had been needed to help move the lynch I would have done it. Sure I posted less than DP, and all DP did day1 was try to make a last minute switch off of mafia and scumread hapa. I posted less than Geript and Geript was apprehensive about consolidating on to VE because he wanted to look for the 2 mafia pair.
Basically I'm content with what I've done this game and the amount of effort I've put in. If people want to call me scummy without good reasoning or if the DP/Geript/Yamato/Prom group wants to circle jerk each other and call me useless so be it. You're either pretty far away from the reality of this game or you're mafia trying to save face. You voted for VE. Good for you so did most everyone else. Prome's supporting Hapa's lynch was based on a townread on Hapa and not on what you said. I in no way want to setup a circle jerk. The only person of the 4 who I'm pretty sure is town is Prome. DP and Yam have done next to nothing today either. Like honestly, I'm really frustrated with the hosts cutting the day short and most everyone sitting on their hands today when we could and should be looking for the last mafia. I spent about an hour on irc with Yamato yesterday. I'm relatively sure he isn't scum. Assuming that 3p can win with town (which is what the OP says) I don't care about catching them. Assuming the host hasn't lied to us, which is an unfortunately unfounded assumption based on hosting thus far, this game is over. Dear 3p: you can win with town. All you have to do is try to kill scum. Use your murder on scummy people and we'll win together. Geript: please explain your town read on MM1. If you die I don't want to have to rely on your word. Grack: I cheerlead the VE lynch based on my town read of Hapa and his excellent VE case. Your behaviour had nothing to do with it. DP: why do you think grack is town? Why do you think MM1 is town? Why do you think oats is town?
My read on MM1. Over night around the first 24 hours of the game after I had stopped posting, MM1 made a series of posts in the QT that (when I checked the QT after catching up) perfectly reflected where I was at. I was suspicious of Hapa and I was suspicious of VE. That's where he was. He also made a few interesting points about CR (he's doesn't seem very happy and he should be exceptionally happy if he's town) and VE (VE hasn't had a history of reading him well when VE is town). Also, I'm 90% sure that he would've claimed 3P when I pushed him to if he were mafia.
He hasn't posted a lot in thread or in QT. It's not a permanent town read and there are a variety of aspects in which it could be wrong.
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On September 29 2014 06:24 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 06:14 geript wrote:On September 29 2014 05:59 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 13:01 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 12:53 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me. What did hapa say that makes you think voting for you was townie? What specifically did you like about it? On September 24 2014 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Grakaroni
I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool. I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted? Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not. What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense. ##UnvoteOn September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote. I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person. I didn't see any reason for me being scummy so I thought Hapa's vote was strange but I vote people like that sometimes too as town just to get the game started faster and start getting info. I think scum would feel more pressured to justify their vote rather than backtrack. Geript if you had read 2 pages of my filter you would understand why your point is nonsense I did. I read the whole exchange quite thoroughly. I don't think it's nonsense at all. I'm not sure if it's conclusive but it's exceptionally odd. Its wrong because I never liked Hapa's reasoning for voting for me which really should be 100% clear from my post that I just quoted. I liked Hapa's explanation for why he had voted me, which was that he voted me just because he was trying to stir something up and not because he thought my post was scummy.
So you got a townread on him because he said, "I just wanted to throw my vote around?" Like that's a really bullshit read.
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Any last questions prome?
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FWIW, I'm checking DP. I think he's harder to get a read on than Yam and having the 3 of you as confirmed town would be huge.
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Ok guys let's all be quiet for a bit.
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On September 29 2014 07:42 Promethelax wrote:
Did no one else show up for deadline? Not even the hosts....it sure is lonely here.
I did. I'm just waiting for the day post. I've done this before. I was taking a nap and slept through my alarm. Thankfully my awesome cohosts did everything for me after 15-30 minutes.
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On September 30 2014 01:16 Grackaroni wrote:
It was town favored but I think Abuse still could have won after the 2 mafia lynched only needing 3 mislynches VA /me/Yamato
I don't think he realistically doesn't get lynched or die. He has to kill Oats, Kill DP, kill Prome and then it's lylo. Plus he has to avoid DP making the world go boom to make the game go faster.
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It's ok Koshi. You aren't allowed to play in my game. I won't let you. I'm specifically going to code it such that you won't even be able to see the thread.
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Hapa, I'm very disappointed that you didn't analyze how much of a badass play I made on D2. I will bring your grade up from a D+ to a C- if you put more effort into covering the important stuff next time 
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