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On October 09 2014 05:32 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 05:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Zen man:scum, everyone has said it already, if someone wants a post specifically from me about zen i can do that. My vote stays put as of now. It is starting to worry me that nobody is vehemently against the wagon, though.
Dusts: *tumbleweed*
Rad:town, actively looking for more scum even while there's a wagon.
Super:null/town, the big instigator of the wagon. No counter wagons and a rock solid argument. Why null/town and not town? Weird gut feelings that i can't explain.
Abuse:null, while he pushed loafery and looked town because of it, it took him quite some time to unvote and consider the current wagon. Elvis!'s actions don't help him either.
Elvis:scum/null, i hope he posts more, currently he has no vote and was only voting on loaf because he had pressure
Breshke: scum, pretty similar story to zen-man, i think this is a really good person to look at after the flip, or even right now. I would but i have already screwed this post up many times. Thanks phone.
Everyone else: null or i don't remember your posts Did you, like, even read any posts posted today?
Elaborate or don't make posts like this. What did i say that is contrary to what has been posted?
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I'm phone, here for a bit too
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On October 09 2014 06:39 Breshke wrote:In response to abuse's post which can be found hereFirst of all i wrote about the dumbtell again in that post because I wanted people to see my thought process. Probably not that useful but whatever i did it. I then go on and say I am reading loaf town because he actually starts scum hunting and stops talking about previous games. He even has the same mindset as me in going for superbia as he had been not actually pushing on people at this point. Then onto my post about Zen. I feel Zen is more of a newbie like me. You guys are very good at constructing cases on people, I read them and think oh i want to add to this then just end up rearranging the words and posting it not realizing that ive just completely copied your post plus like one little extra argument I've thought of. This is what Zen did and after doing this myself i thought i could try explain it as people were getting worked up about him telling "lies". I also then voted him but that was because as i said he had non committal reads. He basically hadn't given a substantial read on anyone but loaf and even that was iffy. This vote was a placeholder and superbia was pushing for people to jump on his bandwagon so i thought I'd indulge him for a bit and see if he had some play lined up. Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 05:50 Elvis! wrote:I'm sorry about this short post, but I want it to be able to be discussed before the deadline. I will insert more quotes that support this asap, but due to real life issues I had less time than I thought I would. My current read for the most scummy is: Breshke: ##Vote: BreshkeHe does post an amount which is not suspiciously low, but moslty in a very short manner each time. Even though he asks some questions, there rarely is follow-up, more analysis or just generally use of that information. I see this as a subtle way to try to hide being mafia, shallowly you appear non-mafia, since you can see him posting and gathering some information, but I think what he's doing is more to confuse town than to hunt scum. Which is what we're here for. The only way he "contributes" is with a fishy vote on Zen, which Superbia and the surrounding characters have a decent case on, but Breshke was merely a small time before the vote, defending Zen against accusations. A townie would adress why, and in detail, one should not only follow a bandwagon, insert personal thoughts about the case and support it. He simply jumps on something he as a mafia knows is not mafia, is a good scapegoat and has a decent case against the person.
This is the perfect opportunity for him as mafia to strike and hide.Then there is multiple posts which insert chaos, which according to this analysis (yes abuse I too have read this one - it's really good), is exactly mafia's role. To sum it up: How do I think I detected him? He not only does donkey things like loaf, but things that stop us from scumhunting. He jumps on a bandwagon that even though it has a decent background, might be close but not quite(read: a lot of people are getting read as scum at the moment, most people vote on Zen because to them he appears a little more scummy than the rest, but not in a crazy substantial way). my current list: abuse + superbia go the most into scumhunting. I like how they don't fear to be in the spotlight and get their cases forward(!!!). They share position 1 - would not put them in my town circle quite yet, waiting for cases on more people (which they announced already) to happen. Rad is not as intense in doing so as they are, but I don't see scum indicators and few town indicators, so he's on position 3 in my town Position 3 - leans town FecalFeast for me at the moment is null, I can't really say what his actions indicate the most, will look at him in more detail later when the next big thing happens. He does not seem dangerous or disruptive, so he's not a scum read for me. position 4 - null. dusts: -- no position --.  loafery for me at the moment is just making a whole bunch of weird actions which might or might not be intended to be disruptive. Since some of his things are more scum-like than town he is Position 5 - leans scum. Zen for me still is the second worst of them all, but for me I think Breshes disruptive and chaotic actions are more clear. He might be the second scum with breshke, since he isn't as obvious as Breshke for me atm I'll not vote for him. Position 6 - leans into scum like a drunk guy on a fit girl. Breshke - see above. I agree my posts are generally too short i don't know if this is my play style or what but i probably need to improve that. Yes i don't always use peoples answers to my questions but it lets me see their thought process and tries to keep conversation flowing. Next the bolded section. Are you saying here you know Zen is town? This was posted before the flip and confuses me because the way i voted there if i was a 3rd party i would have probably assumed that i was partners with Zen not he town and myself mafia. You are obviously reading Zen town so why did you not say anything in his defense at all?Also i'm interested to see the quotes of where i inset chaos because i don't think i have been doing that.
I was calling you scum before but this post is making me reconsider. First, though:
The bolded section, if I'm reading this correctly, is saying that you looked at the game from a third party view and saw yourself and zen as the most scummy so voted for someone else(me)? Why are you looking at the game from another point of view if you are town?
Please let me know if I read that incorrectly.
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oh I just re-read abuse's post and I get why he got mad at me.
I will sate your bloodlust before it starts and respond to this paragraph I skimmed.
What bugs me about this post, is that he really likes this post, which basically trashes loafery, but still he reads loafery null. If he likes this post so much, why does he not let it influence his read on loaf in any way whatsoever?
As well as the almost-blind-sheep of superbia's case.
Fecalfeast - I have 3 questions for you.
Let's imagine that null is not an option for answers.
What do you think is the alignment of : Elvis, Rad, loafery.
I liked the post because the poster was actually trying and putting effort into his post. I liked the post as evidence of Elvis! being town.
What I didn't like was elvis unvoting just because he didn't think his target was going to get lynched. If you think someone is scum, it shouldn't matter what the rest of town is doing until there is a chance of a no-lynch.
I read rad town even though he doesn't like me too much. He seems to be trying to make use of a busy schedule's limited time. Could be a story, though who knows.
Loaf is null still. Yeah people have made decent arguments about him but I personally don't find things like assuming himself to be confirmed town as scummy as others seem to.
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On October 09 2014 08:51 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 08:38 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 09 2014 06:39 Breshke wrote:In response to abuse's post which can be found hereFirst of all i wrote about the dumbtell again in that post because I wanted people to see my thought process. Probably not that useful but whatever i did it. I then go on and say I am reading loaf town because he actually starts scum hunting and stops talking about previous games. He even has the same mindset as me in going for superbia as he had been not actually pushing on people at this point. Then onto my post about Zen. I feel Zen is more of a newbie like me. You guys are very good at constructing cases on people, I read them and think oh i want to add to this then just end up rearranging the words and posting it not realizing that ive just completely copied your post plus like one little extra argument I've thought of. This is what Zen did and after doing this myself i thought i could try explain it as people were getting worked up about him telling "lies". I also then voted him but that was because as i said he had non committal reads. He basically hadn't given a substantial read on anyone but loaf and even that was iffy. This vote was a placeholder and superbia was pushing for people to jump on his bandwagon so i thought I'd indulge him for a bit and see if he had some play lined up. On October 09 2014 05:50 Elvis! wrote:I'm sorry about this short post, but I want it to be able to be discussed before the deadline. I will insert more quotes that support this asap, but due to real life issues I had less time than I thought I would. My current read for the most scummy is: Breshke: ##Vote: BreshkeHe does post an amount which is not suspiciously low, but moslty in a very short manner each time. Even though he asks some questions, there rarely is follow-up, more analysis or just generally use of that information. I see this as a subtle way to try to hide being mafia, shallowly you appear non-mafia, since you can see him posting and gathering some information, but I think what he's doing is more to confuse town than to hunt scum. Which is what we're here for. The only way he "contributes" is with a fishy vote on Zen, which Superbia and the surrounding characters have a decent case on, but Breshke was merely a small time before the vote, defending Zen against accusations. A townie would adress why, and in detail, one should not only follow a bandwagon, insert personal thoughts about the case and support it. He simply jumps on something he as a mafia knows is not mafia, is a good scapegoat and has a decent case against the person.
This is the perfect opportunity for him as mafia to strike and hide.Then there is multiple posts which insert chaos, which according to this analysis (yes abuse I too have read this one - it's really good), is exactly mafia's role. To sum it up: How do I think I detected him? He not only does donkey things like loaf, but things that stop us from scumhunting. He jumps on a bandwagon that even though it has a decent background, might be close but not quite(read: a lot of people are getting read as scum at the moment, most people vote on Zen because to them he appears a little more scummy than the rest, but not in a crazy substantial way). my current list: abuse + superbia go the most into scumhunting. I like how they don't fear to be in the spotlight and get their cases forward(!!!). They share position 1 - would not put them in my town circle quite yet, waiting for cases on more people (which they announced already) to happen. Rad is not as intense in doing so as they are, but I don't see scum indicators and few town indicators, so he's on position 3 in my town Position 3 - leans town FecalFeast for me at the moment is null, I can't really say what his actions indicate the most, will look at him in more detail later when the next big thing happens. He does not seem dangerous or disruptive, so he's not a scum read for me. position 4 - null. dusts: -- no position --. loafery for me at the moment is just making a whole bunch of weird actions which might or might not be intended to be disruptive. Since some of his things are more scum-like than town he is Position 5 - leans scum. Zen for me still is the second worst of them all, but for me I think Breshes disruptive and chaotic actions are more clear. He might be the second scum with breshke, since he isn't as obvious as Breshke for me atm I'll not vote for him. Position 6 - leans into scum like a drunk guy on a fit girl. Breshke - see above. I agree my posts are generally too short i don't know if this is my play style or what but i probably need to improve that. Yes i don't always use peoples answers to my questions but it lets me see their thought process and tries to keep conversation flowing. Next the bolded section. Are you saying here you know Zen is town? This was posted before the flip and confuses me because the way i voted there if i was a 3rd party i would have probably assumed that i was partners with Zen not he town and myself mafia. You are obviously reading Zen town so why did you not say anything in his defense at all?Also i'm interested to see the quotes of where i inset chaos because i don't think i have been doing that. I was calling you scum before but this post is making me reconsider. First, though: The bolded section, if I'm reading this correctly, is saying that you looked at the game from a third party view and saw yourself and zen as the most scummy so voted for someone else(me)? Why are you looking at the game from another point of view if you are town? Please let me know if I read that incorrectly. Sorry i didn't explain that very well. So elvis says "He simply jumps on something he as a mafia knows is not mafia, is a good scapegoat and has a decent case against the person. This is the perfect opportunity for him as mafia to strike and hide." So if you look back i vote Zen after superbia prompting me to do so then fairly soon after change my vote to you FF. Let's pretend i'm Elvis thinking Breshke is mafia. He sees this vote and says he thinks its me jumping on voting on a town. So by this logic he thinks Zen is town. Why didn't he try and stop the lynch why didn't he even mention this anywhere else? Wouldn't the better assumption to come to at that point be that me and Zen were partners and i was getting worried about the vote on him going through. In fact im fairly sure this is what your reaction my change of vote was saying i was getting nervous. I realize this is probably poorly explained so if you have anymore questions about it feel free to ask.
That actually makes some sense. I think you could definitely have been nervous mafia trying to find a safe town to lynch but that may be because you're trying to kill me.
Elvis, I would also like to know how you rationalize calling zen town but doing nothing to stop his wagon. Yes, you pushed someone else but you also called zen mafia in that same post. Woah, hold the phone.
On October 09 2014 05:50 Elvis! wrote:I'm sorry about this short post, but I want it to be able to be discussed before the deadline. I will insert more quotes that support this asap, but due to real life issues I had less time than I thought I would. My current read for the most scummy is: Breshke: ##Vote: BreshkeHe does post an amount which is not suspiciously low, but moslty in a very short manner each time. Even though he asks some questions, there rarely is follow-up, more analysis or just generally use of that information. I see this as a subtle way to try to hide being mafia, shallowly you appear non-mafia, since you can see him posting and gathering some information, but I think what he's doing is more to confuse town than to hunt scum. Which is what we're here for. The only way he "contributes" is with a fishy vote on Zen, which Superbia and the surrounding characters have a decent case on, but Breshke was merely a small time before the vote, defending Zen against accusations. A townie would adress why, and in detail, one should not only follow a bandwagon, insert personal thoughts about the case and support it. He simply jumps on something he as a mafia knows is not mafia, is a good scapegoat and has a decent case against the person.This is the perfect opportunity for him as mafia to strike and hide. Then there is multiple posts which insert chaos, which according to this analysis (yes abuse I too have read this one - it's really good), is exactly mafia's role. To sum it up: How do I think I detected him? He not only does donkey things like loaf, but things that stop us from scumhunting. He jumps on a bandwagon that even though it has a decent background, might be close but not quite(read: a lot of people are getting read as scum at the moment, most people vote on Zen because to them he appears a little more scummy than the rest, but not in a crazy substantial way). my current list: abuse + superbia go the most into scumhunting. I like how they don't fear to be in the spotlight and get their cases forward(!!!). They share position 1 - would not put them in my town circle quite yet, waiting for cases on more people (which they announced already) to happen. Rad is not as intense in doing so as they are, but I don't see scum indicators and few town indicators, so he's on position 3 in my town Position 3 - leans town FecalFeast for me at the moment is null, I can't really say what his actions indicate the most, will look at him in more detail later when the next big thing happens. He does not seem dangerous or disruptive, so he's not a scum read for me. position 4 - null. dusts: -- no position --. loafery for me at the moment is just making a whole bunch of weird actions which might or might not be intended to be disruptive. Since some of his things are more scum-like than town he is Position 5 - leans scum. Zen for me still is the second worst of them all, but for me I think Breshes disruptive and chaotic actions are more clear. He might be the second scum with breshke, since he isn't as obvious as Breshke for me atm I'll not vote for him. Position 6 - leans into scum like a drunk guy on a fit girl.Breshke - see above.
The bolded statements don't make any sense for a couple reasons.
1)He actually only voted zen for a short time and then voted me, with a decent amount of explanation, even.
2)If he is voting zen for the reason that he knows he is not mafia, why did you still read zen as the second scummiest player?
2) (a)If you mean his vote on me was a vote on someone he knows isn't mafia, why am I only null?
3) Your whole post is basically based on him voting with no reasoning and yet doesn't mention once that his vote was changed multiple times.
I dislike this post.
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addendum to my post:
You say that his vote is a big reason for your scumread, Why didn't his vote seem to play into any of your other reads?
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On October 09 2014 09:22 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 09:17 Rad wrote:On October 09 2014 09:08 loafery wrote:On October 09 2014 08:17 Rad wrote:On October 09 2014 07:58 loafery wrote:
just a quick post before I start reading. Is it right in assuming the people that defended zen before his flip lean towards town? I think this advice is appropriate. On October 07 2014 13:58 abuse wrote:
5) loafery please stop pretending to be a total newbie, and if you are then address such unclarities with either the mods or your coach. so what do you think? am i lying through my teeth and acting like a newbie or am i just not very good at this game? I think you're newbie town who needs to stop playing the newbie card and get some help. well at least you think i'm town but coming from scum isn't really helpful is it?
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On October 09 2014 09:31 Elvis! wrote:
will comment on the other things in a second. In the short notice (I only had like 20 Minutes for all the research but wanted to put a meaningful post. Real life fucks that stuff up sometimes.
It's night still, take your time and make it a good post. Real life is lame but it's important sometimes.
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On October 09 2014 05:35 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 05:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Zen man:scum, everyone has said it already, if someone wants a post specifically from me about zen i can do that. My vote stays put as of now. It is starting to worry me that nobody is vehemently against the wagon, though. Most of voters right now are on my townlist, I'm happy. But if he flips town I'm going to have to re-evaluate the whole game. At the moment I'm living in the fairy dream world in which zen's going to flip scum and we win on d2.
I have to leave soon but I am waiting for this.
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Slow night. Was hoping someone else would be around. I'll be back in a few hours probably.
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On October 09 2014 15:17 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 09:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh I just re-read abuse's post and I get why he got mad at me.
I will sate your bloodlust before it starts and respond to this paragraph I skimmed.
Okay, this strikes me the wrong way. Very hard. What you're basically saying is, before EoD, you did not bother to read thoroughly a big post, that explains someone's view on every person in the game, exposing the flaws and expressing views on everybody, including yourself. Why on earth would a townie not read this? I can see a good reason why mafia wouldn't - because they don't care, but why would a townie not care? Please do share, and make it good.Will definitely take a closer look into you today when I start analyzing stuff.
So I spend the time to re-read the thread to see if I missed anything and get scumread for it?
Nice.
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I guess, before you say I'm dismissing you...
I only missed the part where you asked me a question directly, as implied by my post where I said I missed your question.
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Yes I was unavailable before EoD. That is true.
At the point in time where I wrote that post, I was focused more on who to lynch, not who is town. Yes I said null and hardly wrote a line when you made a huge post. Did you expect a detailed writeup on everyone?
I do not post well from phones, I meant the elvis part to be at the end of the post, after everyone else. I had only read his unvote post while I was making my big post (I refreshed my other tab on my phone to check if anyone posted.)
Guess I formatted that wrong, I never noticed before.
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With regards to my comment on you not changing your vote...I'm stupid. I either mistook the scv portrait for someone else or I totally missed the post. Either way I look like an idiot for sure.
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Like, it's right under your big post. I must have thought it was loaf or something when I read through.
I will spend more effort on reading the thread before I make posts from now on.
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Wow I pass out trying to read the abuse/breshke interaction on my phone at 4am, wake up at 12:30pm and have a shower... 1 new post.
Good job town. Elvis gets 100 townpoints for being the only one to use night time properly and I get 100 scumpoints for sleeping in two days in a row.
I was expecting the post to be abuse or breshke with their "later in the night" post... It's Evlis!?
Why not post your thoughts while more town are alive, or while you're alive even? Please post them soon, so everyone can give input?
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1000 townpoints for elvis, his case is actually pretty solid, I'm gonna look at breshke's filter and hopefully say something before 2
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I'm starting to think scumBreshke decided at the start of the game to latch on to somebody (me) but wavered in his plan, maybe by coaching or his scum teammate saying to join the easy wagon.
On October 07 2014 20:42 Breshke wrote:
Superbia you have obviously played with FF before, i know its early but how do you think his game is going so far compared to your last game together?
Already sets himself up to talk about me specifically. It's his 4th post in the game, including his /in
On October 07 2014 21:54 Breshke wrote:So i also just want to get all my thoughts about Loaf down. At first his dumbtell made me really think he was towny then Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 10:33 loafery wrote:
enough about games i've played on other forums
what are we gonna do about this today, I'm apparently confirmed town we got 3 people here and I'm getting positive vibes from you two so I don't think you two guys are scum nothing really suspicious. Calling himself confirmed towny really gave off bad vibes. Also loaf you say most games you played in were complicated having multiple power role setups so do you not read the OP in most of your games to better understand them? At the end of your post here it seems like you were about to give a read on abuse then kind of didn't. Would you mind teling me your thoughts on him?
He then decides to join in on the loaf pressure with... the same thing abuse said.
On October 08 2014 09:29 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 07:40 loafery wrote:
"This set-up is based off of the Matrix6 setup with added flavor. This is a semi-open set-up meaning that while all of the roles possible will be displayed the number of each role in game is unknown."
for my defense of being noobish I frankly didn't read this part of the OP. My mistake. To be frank, it's my first time playing semi-open or any kind of open setup. It's always been where everyone knows which roles there are and its fixed.
I srsly don't want to bring in external factors to the game and my credibility and what not. If I have to then so be it...
But atm i want to read abuse as scummy for trying so unnaturally hard and tunneling into lynching me. Do you not agree then that people reading you as town just for misreading the OP could be scummy then? Like this is something that could be faked so i don't see how people can get a town read off that. Also in my opinion not trying to answer questions is scummy because it makes it seem like you have something to hide but I understand there been so much focus on you so there's a lot to answer. I'm uneasy about superbia and ff saying they both basically disagree with the push on loaf but aren't pushing on anyone themselves. Who are you both scum reading? Who do you think should be a wagon for today? Also my biggest town at the moment is abuse from his hard push on loaf as he was the first one to actively push his reads and doing this as mafia would majorly put the spotlight on him if loaf gets lynched and happens to flip town.
When loaf pressure dies down, he decides to try again for me by saying the people calling him town are scummy. Which happens to be me and superbia.
On October 08 2014 10:44 Breshke wrote:I want to try explain something in defense of Zen but i am not reading him as town he is still null for me at the moment. So he made his wall post about loaf which was basically just sheeping abuse. In my first game im not sure if you remember I basically just sheeped the entire game when I tried to make posts because i was finding it really hard to make content of my own. Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 23:12 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2014 23:00 abuse wrote:On October 07 2014 22:11 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2014 21:04 Breshke wrote:On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town. Why do you think loaf is town? It's mostly a gut read plus I'm happy with people pushing on him so far, so I'll let you know when it matters. tell me what do you think about this post ? I'm pretty sure all the points he brought up were brought up before. Interested to see what he has to say when he comes back. This post here is probably the reason why zen then pretends that he read through the thread better and only just saw abuses post. Zen don't do this, its hardly ever good to lie as town especially about stuff like this. If you saw abuses post and agreed with it say that. I do agree however that non committal reads are not good because they don't give much information. Care to tell us your thoughts on people in particular superbia and loaf. ##Vote: The_Zen_Man
"No, just join in on the zen man, it's an easy mislynch, focus on fecalfeast tomorrow or something"
On October 08 2014 15:23 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 15:15 Rad wrote:
Breshke, what are your thoughts about Fecalfeast? Are you satisfied with him parking his vote on zen? I'm not actually sure like the interaction between superbia and ff about the vote on zen really seems off to me like superbia can just tell ff what to do. He has said he doesnt like to be lumped together with super and then votes along side him without explaining anything. He has posted a lot but has yet to give a scumread of his own and is voting on someone because someone who he has said he doesnt want to be paired with told him to. Looking back on this i think this is very scummy. ##Vote: Fecalfeast
What do I think of FecalFeast? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK OF FECALFEAST!
On October 08 2014 16:06 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 15:28 Rad wrote:Btw:
If you change your vote, please ##Unvote before posting another vote (can be done in the same post).
So are you saying you don't believe zen is scum now? Or you think fecal's trying to bus zen to gain town cred? ##UnvoteVote:FecalfeastMy vote on Zen was more for pressure and his dislike of non committal reads he has made. I feel that for the quantity of your reads you have provided a very little amount of information and you only voted for Zen after superbia made a case on him. It feels like you are just trying to cruise by. Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 15:35 Fecalfeast wrote:You want to know the post that really made me vote him? It was by superbia, even. On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
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Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?
You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?
Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. I am waiting for the man to post and you seriously come to the conclusion that I'm the best lynch target? Are you getting nervous or what? Nervous about what? Why would i be nervous? Why are you so worried about my vote like you quoted Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote.
"You can't just change your vote like that without explaining yourself!"
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Nervous about what? Why would i be nervous? Why are you so worried about my vote
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On October 10 2014 05:16 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why not post your thoughts while more town are alive, or while you're alive even? Please post them soon, so everyone can give input?
I dont like this.
Are you kidding?
You don't like that I want more town to give input on reads? You're banking on the idea that everyone will be here 30 mins before deadline
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