Guilty Mini Mafia

On August 21 2014 22:45 GlowingBear wrote:


It will be if I also roll scum because I have 100% win ratio after five games played
Not because I played well, though, I just have this win aura

On August 22 2014 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck this playerlist is so cool!
i am exited. i hope Hapa rolls mafia.
*except with me*

On August 22 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you say the word "feel" i am insta-lynching you.

On August 22 2014 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
So with this game having a Serial Killer we should be lynching basically every day in an effort to reduce KP.

Scum will have a consistent KP of one but the benefits of getting the SK totally outweigh the risk of lynching town imo.

Basically no voting to sleep or I will suspect you.

On August 22 2014 10:51 KelsierSC wrote:
You asked 1 question in 3 different ways. I suppose this is a technique to try and discredit what I am saying.

I was making town aware that we need to lynch aggressively. This is an important message to put forward.

Anyway I really don't like how you said you "don't want to be baited into" the discussion, But all you did was ask 3 pretty general and meaningless questions that just prolong the discussion.

Moving on from this. I really don't like how you have opened the game WaveofShadow. You were the first to respond to my post. But only after someone else comments on it do you jump in. I feel this is scum indicative and you really need to do better to convince me you are town.

On August 22 2014 10:51 KelsierSC wrote:
You asked 1 question in 3 different ways. I suppose this is a technique to try and discredit what I am saying.

I was making town aware that we need to lynch aggressively. This is an important message to put forward.

Anyway I really don't like how you said you "don't want to be baited into" the discussion, But all you did was ask 3 pretty general and meaningless questions that just prolong the discussion.

Moving on from this. I really don't like how you have opened the game WaveofShadow. You were the first to respond to my post. But only after someone else comments on it do you jump in. I feel this is scum indicative and you really need to do better to convince me you are town.

On August 22 2014 10:54 turtlevine wrote:
wos asked some questions aboove
thinking there'd be people they'd shove
but as we can see
no question's worthy
just tell them those posts get no love!

there's no harm at the start realistically
in talking about no-lynch strategy
it's no good this game
which is really a shame
it kills a way for scum to talk for free!

these posts give alignment of null-tell
just don't use them as a casemaker as well
not for town or for scum,
i'm telling you chum
this chatter lives only in the echo of the starting bell!

On August 22 2014 11:16 GlowingBear wrote:


Ate a family of fireflies. Every single family member.
Why waves of shadow instead of waves of light?

What do you think of Kelsen (I'll call him Kelsen, it's easier to remember) avoiding my question?

On August 22 2014 11:17 KelsierSC wrote:


Ok so you have nothing useful.

I am going to give my reads so far.

I like Robik as top town so far. I don't know him personally but I don't think mafia comes out early and calls someone stupid.
Kind of like dam because he seemed to actually read a bit deeper into my first post. I like turtle because of his poem and he tried to focus town away from useless discussion. I wouldn't lynch these 3.

Wave and Bear both seem kind of useless and weak so far and I would happily kill either of them

On August 22 2014 11:37 yamato77 wrote:
Looooooooooooooool this game.

On August 22 2014 11:42 GlowingBear wrote:


What on the way I questioned you didn't like?

WoS, if you think the players here suck, it's up to you to do something good or funny, then.

On August 22 2014 11:49 KelsierSC wrote:


Alright before you go and sulk in the corner like a baby , let me explain my day 1 play. What I like to do is basically give people a town pass d1, like you do something a bit towny or I perceive it as town play then you are off my radar d1.
So far you have done absolutely nothing except bitch and whine and make stupid little comments so until you do something you are my top lynch.

On August 22 2014 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm fun, specially at parties. Talk to me

On August 22 2014 11:53 Damdred wrote:
Your right I am here and reading, last game I played started right after work or during work like this one did I came home and made awkward posts that made me look bad, so instead i'm looking bad for not being awkward I like this!

I bleed green my friend, and i'd never lie to the shadows

On August 22 2014 11:59 KelsierSC wrote:


I already did that holy fuck

I think Dam is town, Bear is town, turtle is town and I still think Robik is town. He may play that way with either alignment but it still felt town to me.

You are my top scum so far. Reasons.
1) You made no attempts to figure out the game.
2) You moaned and said stupid shit like "yamato save me" or "SK save me"
3) when I made the first post you responded to it but only attacked it after someone else had which felt super fucking scummy.

On August 22 2014 12:03 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me gb i don't see what you see atm I'm leaning more towards putting work tryhard for kel on his first game with us.

On August 22 2014 12:08 GlowingBear wrote:


I know nothing about Yamato. Played with him once, he was blue and I was mafia. He had like... 5 posts. Impossible to read him.

@Damdred what aren't you seeing?

On August 22 2014 12:23 GlowingBear wrote:


Sorry, still not clear, my reading comprehension is bad. Are you asking my read on Yamato? Like, if he would be in my scumpile? I'd that is so, I'd say not yet, because I can't read Yamato at all lol.

On August 22 2014 21:50 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't think you can read VA by what he has posted so far.

On August 22 2014 21:55 IAmRobik wrote:

He's saying you and wos are mafia together and you gave him free town points in your chart because you were just throwing in your teammate, not really caring about where he went as long as he was somewhere at the top of town - as you were already giving a weak reasoning for him being town to begin with

On August 22 2014 22:04 IAmRobik wrote:

I'm town. I have never ever claimed town as mafia. This game is no exception.

On August 22 2014 22:05 justanothertownie wrote:

I would be really disappointed if you became grush 2.0 man.

On August 22 2014 22:16 Xatalos wrote:


I guess because my early reads are pretty weak / feeling-based. This always happens though so it should stop as the game continues. What do you think actually? You haven't commented really.

On August 22 2014 22:17 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, I think we caught you trying to fabricate a read out of nothing.

On August 22 2014 22:25 Xatalos wrote:
Why is jat supertown btw? Enlighten me.

On August 22 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:

No, maybe JAT shouldn't.
Xatalos had you and GB both as +4 btw.

Now as for why I ask questions? 'Cause I do it every game and I like doing it. In this case I had already offered an answer to my own question myself earlier (thought damdred looked scummy earlier) and I wanted to see if people could attempt to commit to something this early in the game/gauge some thoughts.

On August 22 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure if i believe that Wave. Unless your plan is to just throw things left and right and see what happens. But i do not think you are that bad of a player.

On August 22 2014 22:54 IAmRobik wrote:

This is the silliest thing that I've ever read. Everyone is going to shoot down arguments against them, regardless of role.

On August 22 2014 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
WOS had a 15 page filter in the Championship game as scum... WTF. I guess my townread based on activity/participation was a bit premature. Down 2 points.

On August 22 2014 23:01 KelsierSC wrote:
WoS do you think the +4 that Xatalos gave you was fair?

To me that makes me view you as more town and Xat as scum trying to buy a friend

On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"

On August 22 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave are you scared to have feelings?

On August 22 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:

You are way too stiff dude ^_^

On August 22 2014 23:18 Damdred wrote:


Yamato is always mafia until he posts and shows he isn't.

You guys are right though, my posts do look a little downplay I guess my sarcasm was not really getting across especially in the post about being scum read for not being awkward.

On August 23 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I do not think this is the case with Wave.
Basically everything he says is just incorrect or he contradicts himself with what he says earlier. For example he called someone bad/scum for making an association case and then he made a shitty association case himself...

On August 23 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:

I see why you would understand the anger in general but I don't understand why it rings townbells.

On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:



You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.

On August 23 2014 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?

On August 23 2014 00:59 justanothertownie wrote:

You seem to be quite certain that rayn is town, yes?

On August 23 2014 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tell me Wave, what are grand points then?
You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia.
Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far.

On August 23 2014 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:

Wow, I HEAVILY disagree with this statement. If there is a player that pushes hard for mislynches and has an agenda as scum then it is rayn.

On August 23 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave what is your reasoning for not scumreading GlowingBear?
What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town.

On August 23 2014 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, fine. But if you want it to be like that stop raging at rayn. Ignore him and talk about other people.

On August 22 2014 21:38 Damdred wrote:
Ok caught up and had one cup of coffee so far.

I don't really care for Xatalos reads so much, i'm just going to ignore the part of me since he always does that to me. I don't get his scummy feels vs non scummy feels. Kel is the lowest on the town scale for him but he has given some of the better material in this thread so far and seems the most likely to be towny out of the early posters and he continues to give pretty good reasoning behind his reads he is part of town I really like him right now.

Xata, have you changed your mind about ray and what you originally posted him as? Also if you give Ray a -1 for being asleep when hes usually not active on the boards shouldn't the other people who have 0s have -1 to?

I think I disagree with the GB and Wave rankings the most. GB is townish to me right now besides the awkward re-entrance to the thread and asking for summary which is just weird and seems strange.

You say wave responds to kel in a casual/towny type way? I don't see that at all, it looked like to me he waited on someone else to call him stupid and then jumped on him, and then asked the same question to multiple people and didn't draw conclusions up to that point about them instead he just left that doesn't seem very towny to me. Confused why you gave him such a strong town read

On August 23 2014 01:20 Damdred wrote:


Jat in his scum game was honestly useless, he only showed up to post things that somewhat made sense and he disappeared for long points of time and nobody called him on it he was just allowed to exist. Instead of doing that here, he is much more actively involved in the goings on of the day and is pressuring people to get their reads and not accepting at face value what they are saying but he seems to be digging to get a better understanding. I would strong town read JAT currently because of these reasons



Could you show me these one liners where he is subtly discrediting people?

On August 23 2014 01:26 turtlevine wrote:
wow, fucking sylencia just came into the mason QT and told us we're confirmed to each other. I would have 100% never outed my Mason partner if he was confirmed to me, since all that does is give scum easy targets to shoot. are you freaking kidding me

On August 23 2014 01:33 KelsierSC wrote:
So I don't really like the last few interactions WoS has had. I know he thinks I am just focused on him but here is what I don't like.

1) I still don't like how he thinks Dam is scum like it just doesn't fit with how I read him and that makes me feel uneasy, also no one else is really pinging out Dam, he isn't going to be the lynch so why deflect on to him.

2) You have no "strong" scum reads like this just doesn't feel good at this point.

3) You got angry with rayn for seemingly no real reason, he was bringing up some good points and asking you reasonable questions and you just kind of exploded at him and It just felt forced to me.

If i get this straight you slightly fos me, dam and Xat as scum?

On August 22 2014 22:56 WaveofShadow wrote:

It has nothing to do with being bad Rayn. It's how I gather information and reads, and it makes the game interesting for me. I literally, LITERALLY do this shit every game. You can go ahead and believe what you want, because you will anyway. Nothing I ever say ever changes your mind, you just do it on your own when fancy strikes you. It's like marv's last-minute lynches.

On August 23 2014 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck Wave must be town.
I guess i'll go read Damdred again after sauna.

On August 23 2014 06:08 yamato77 wrote:
it really does

and look at the way he talked about me

he's not trying to lynch me, he's just trying to make people not townread me

so fucking scummy

On August 24 2014 01:18 KelsierSC wrote:
So earlier on I said that WoS would be a good lynch but now I am pretty convinced he is town.

I already said I didn't like the early game from him but I think he has done enough now to get my town pass. Specifically.

He brought up some good points about Dama, I still think dama is town but WoS had accurate reads on him.

He never really trusted Yam and now he voted on him and brought up more good points, I also think Yam is scum I really like this read.

I think he is frustrated with rayn but still reads him town, I have the same read

His last post seemed really well thought out and his analysis of Hapa seemed well constructed ALTHOUGH I don't have experience with Hapa so im not sure if it is true.

Xat but him as a +4 early, I think xat is scum, I don't think Xat would +4 a partner that early.

He voted on Yam who is a top lynch of mine.

TLDR - WoS is really town

On August 24 2014 01:42 Damdred wrote:
I like your yamato point wave, he did something similar in showdown but people asked for his reads and he never gave them when he was scum....

And i'm undecided if Rayn is scum, he is trying to antagonize people, and is pushing my buttons that he knows he can push. I was leaning towards him being town but i'm just unsure he did a lot of these same tactics in the titanic this past time when he was mafia. He does have a big filter but a lot of it is spamming the same useless stuff over and over and hes capable of having a big filter as mafia I just don't know what I think because i'm upset with him

On August 24 2014 01:46 KelsierSC wrote:


No it wasn't one post, I checked your filter and I liked your points about Dama, I also think you brought up some points about yamata which I agreed with. I think your post and your vote were good so you are definitely not a lynch for me today

On August 24 2014 01:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Part of my reads are based on people who are reading the game the same way as me, not all of it though.

Otherwise why are Hapa and Rayn both in my town list.

On August 24 2014 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am xapable of having the biggest filter in a game as mafia. Don't usw it to read me.

Wave....

On August 24 2014 01:56 KelsierSC wrote:


Yeh at the time the Dam read felt weak and generic but he as shown recently that he does tend to disappear or stay quiet around important topics. So in hindsight that was a pretty good read from you.

I still think Dam is town but your read of him was from a town perspective imo

On August 24 2014 01:58 Xatalos wrote:


It just escaped my attention. I didn't realize at first how weird it is for town rayn to ask others if someone is scummy. He would just say "pretty sure yamato is scum" or something like that.

On August 24 2014 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes. For awhile.

On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.

so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me.

On August 24 2014 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:

That's a good thing. But also a useless statement if you don't even say what it is you are agreeing with.


1) Are you not able to read or something? I literally said they are confirmed to each other in this very chain of quotes.
2) Fucking read the thread and THEN continue posting.

Good question.

On August 24 2014 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're bad.

On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:


Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw.

It feels scummy to me.

They do it if they want to push a ML.

On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:

It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere?

On August 24 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:

That's a decision I won't make right now. I want to hear from Hapa first.

On August 24 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:

I am leaning towards nothing right now. Yamato could be a decent lynch. Maybe Xatalos. You aren't off the table either,

On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:


If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless.

In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town..

Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed.

Dam what is your read on WoS now?

On August 24 2014 02:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
nah wave rayn is town.

On August 24 2014 02:18 Xatalos wrote:


I'd like explanations as well but I'll go with this and examine the similarities and differences. Apparently a big reason for you to scumread me is that our "reads are different" so this should at last put your argument to rest.

GB/turtlevine - obviously agreed

WOS/Hapa/jat - agreed

Damdred - somewhat agreed but I think there's a chance he could be scum - definitely not for the reasons rayn mentioned though, and not a lynch candidate for now - town?

VA - apparently serious VA = scum VA, I don't really know VA that well but I wouldn't at least townread him so easily - scum?

rayn - pretty hard to townread him when he's constantly brought BS arguments against me, ignored his own strategy to read me (probably because it would just make me look good), softpushed / validated his reads from the thread, pushed a REALLY bad case against Damdred etc. - scum

yamato - useless yamato isn't necessarily scum yamato, and I think he's shown some of his townie characteristics... with that said his continued lurking and making these quick useless posts here and there doesn't look good so I'm not very confident to call him town anymore - nullish

Onegu - I think his entrance to the thread was good, not a fan of his repeated questions about the Masons though - town lean still

Overall if we ignore GB/turtlevine, we agree on 4 out of 8 reads and the only significant difference is rayn/VA. Why do you townread VA btw?

On August 24 2014 02:19 Damdred wrote:


I'm actually going to go back on my original read. Hes actually being really logical and he seems to be helping and it seems to be coming form a town position. I like him a lot better than I did earlier in the thread at this point.

On August 24 2014 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I understand and maybe you are right. Maybe not.

I believe i am right and when i do, i will try to mak peoole believe me.

On August 24 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:

wat, I think you are really undererstimating him.

On August 24 2014 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea why you guys think it is prome. Because he did something similar once? Don't base reads on this...

On August 23 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's definitely prome
nobody calls me a vet but him
Also think he did limericks in another game

On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

On August 24 2014 03:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Is JAT always this pedantic about irrelevant things?

On August 24 2014 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
First of all, too late.
Second, the difference being I am actually voting for the guy, and pushing a case that I originally wrote, and rayn did neither at the time.
How is that even remotely the same?

On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?

On August 24 2014 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
its geript

fucking lynch me now

On August 24 2014 08:17 justanothertownie wrote:

He definitely thinks so. It's because turtle said yamato is generally bad or something like this.

On August 24 2014 08:25 justanothertownie wrote:

It's not about what I think. That's what yamato thinks. I personally have no idea who it is but geript is certainly possible.

On August 24 2014 08:29 Xatalos wrote:


Vote yamato

On August 24 2014 08:48 Damdred wrote:
##Vote Xatalos

This just feels like a mislynch on yamato being pushed. Xatalos feels the most scummy in the whole thread maybe he is town and i'm totally misreading him (again) but I don't like this lynch

On August 24 2014 08:55 yamato77 wrote:
Xatalos could be scum for just how terrible his read of me is. Yet he's defending it like it's so good.

If it's me or him I'll vote with damdred.

##Vote Xatalos

On August 24 2014 08:58 yamato77 wrote:
And I have played this game, you all just look to my unmotivated play as a sign of my mafia game. Unfortunately playing with some of you sucks all the fun away

On August 24 2014 09:05 yamato77 wrote:

I gave my read on you. You voting me on your return is horrible. As is Hapa push of me.

Onegu and Rob just sitting on sidelines not even posting getting a free pass.

On August 23 2014 11:40 yamato77 wrote:
I pointed out what I thought about him early game, but honestly, I skimmed most of the spam between him/rayn/jat/xat that comprises most of this thread, so my perspective is biased toward his early play. I know he's capable of good to great scum play, so high activity and read fabrication aren't difficult things for him. I'd say I judge him on his sincerity, and I didn't like what I saw early on.

I'll take a look at his filter and give better impressions.

On August 23 2014 12:04 yamato77 wrote:
the main thing I see in his filter is a bunch of arguing with rayn over very little real reads. mainly, he seems to be defending himself. I'd be interested in how he reads the situation between me/hapa/rayn atm

On August 24 2014 09:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Can I get a show of hands who would be interested in swinging a vote on Damdred? That vote is actually that bad.

On August 24 2014 09:08 yamato77 wrote:

Reading through page after page of pointless arguing. Trying to talk about the game with people only to be told I'm doing nothing. No one is discussing anything, they are just accusing and yelling. Just like your posts lately.

On August 24 2014 09:12 Damdred wrote:
Ok I understand what you are saying now JAT.

I do not think that Yamato is mafia this game, this is mainly experienced based with him so I could be dead wrong granted. Most of his posts have had some thought behind it and look more like his other town games I have been with him in rather than the game I played with him when we were mafia together. His posts there were empty and mostly taunted people, here he hasn't really taunted he has had thoughts about Rayn, wave granted he didn't give a bigger read but he did give an initial one which is more than a lot of the time he does in scum games.

And a huge point in Xatas lynch of him is that he isn't fighting he just gives up and dies which he hasn't done he has been back into the thread and has made other posts even though they haven't been as constructive as I would like it still seems more like town yamato to me.

Hapas post on Xata is pretty good I will admit but something just seems off about Xata this game. He is never this certain about stuff like this day one. I've said most of this before but hes slung stuff and defended people posts later, hes exaggerated things in certain posts when earlier he said the opposite and then goes back. Totally sheeped hapas case on Rayn without even questioning his abscense or the validity of the case, and for someone who was super happy to have confirmed town didn't even notice the GB part of the post until someone else pointed it out. He hoped around from target to target until he found one (yamato) that he could get traction on and push. So yea hes scummy to me

On August 23 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:


Well then help me see it if i'm wrong about wave i'm wrong but i won't to understand why

On August 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but kel is saying xat thinks I'm still mafia when the thread says otherqise. Xat says I'm unlynchable today and defends me on several occasions.

On August 23 2014 08:40 Damdred wrote:
Honestly though I'm probably being paranoid and dumb. But its just a weird coincidence that right when thread mentality is shifting against rayn hap shows up to blast him with a case (fitst post) I'm not sure what hapas activity level usuallt is but it is just weird.

and then everyone sheeps it feels off to me

On August 24 2014 09:14 Damdred wrote:


Show me something on scum yamato that isn't meta based first

Yamato's obsession with me rings some bells. Constantly asking about me, saying he's reading my filter and stuff and not offering much, and then fucking off. The thing is, not only does he do this, but he complains when other people do the same.


This is him jumping on board with Hapa's rayncase where rayn insinuates yamato is scum but drops it.
I believe yamato has done the exact same thing here; the difference between the two imo is rayn is actually active and really trying to solve the game.
Yamato jumps in, posts some shit and one-liners and genuinely does not seem to give a single fuck.
Yamato's scum MO in a nutshell.

##Vote: yamato77

On August 24 2014 09:18 Hapahauli wrote:


The problem here is that you obviously didn't read any of the games I linked.

That and you're lynching a guy with 17 pages of Day 1 filter. Scum can be active, but no way can scum cannot fake that level of activity. In the history of this site, I've never seen someone have that large of a Day 1 filter. Ever.

On August 24 2014 09:21 Hapahauli wrote:


I've seen 17 pages of filter. 17 pages of day 1 filter? No.

17 pages of Day 1 Xatalos filter? No way.

On August 24 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
It's basically xat/hapa/wave all circlejerking over lynching me and calling me an inactive scum. I flip town you know.

On August 24 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
It's basically xat/hapa/wave all circlejerking over lynching me and calling me an inactive scum. I flip town you know.

On August 24 2014 09:39 yamato77 wrote:

If I didn't care I wouldn't be posting.

On August 24 2014 09:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Robik or Damdred.

On August 24 2014 09:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Onegu is plausible too. I'll decide in 60 seconds.

On August 24 2014 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:


You? Like, GB is the best for noticing it was a comfort mislynch for mafia. Kthxbai

On August 24 2014 10:12 justanothertownie wrote:
I knew it was off how certain he was about his reads early on. The last time he called me obvtown that early was order mafi
What does that make rayn? Would Robik townread a buddy that hard?

On August 24 2014 10:24 Hapahauli wrote:


That pool includes you sadly. Your homework is also to go over the votecount and tell us who's mafia.

On August 24 2014 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:



Tell me again you love me. I feel lonely

On August 24 2014 11:11 justanothertownie wrote:

No, he explicitly said he would not switch in the end.

On August 24 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well yamato is scum.

On August 24 2014 12:14 Hapahauli wrote:
Have you finished your homework yet Wave?

On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

On August 24 2014 05:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can do this all day I dont get lynched as town becaus I dont leave pores in my logic and my foundation. Shitty cases will be shot down on sight as usual.

On August 25 2014 04:36 yamato77 wrote:
Also, JAT, you aren't that good so you can just buzz off telling me what to do.

On August 25 2014 09:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Wave
When he re-enters the thread when suspicions start being pushed, he first votes Yamato.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=61#1205

Now this post spends a lot of time talking about nothing. Talks about how he thinks Rayn is town but is tempted to lynch him for being annoying, talks about not wanting to lynch myself or Rayn, then finally moves onto his Yamato vote. 66% of this post is poitnless and has nothing to do with why Yamato is scum. This strikes me as very suspicious, but we haven't gotten to the main evidence int his case yet.

Anyway, after he votes Yamato, look at the amount of people he is about to call scum in the ensuing discussion:





That's a selection from pages 5-6 of his filter. I'd recommend you all take a look through it. The guy calls myself, Jat, Damdred, Xatalos, and VA suspicious, all while antagonizing Rayn.

So there are two possible explanations for this:
1) He is a townie involved and trying to figure out the game.
2) He is scum trying to spread suspicion on everything.

#1 is not the case because of what happens next. Wave takes a break from the thread, and comes back with:


And then he proceeds to tunnel the fuck out of Yamato. Gone are his suspicions of basically everyone in the thread. Gone are his suspicions of me and Xatalos. Gone is everything in his filter except lynch Yamato.

This sudden switch from "suspicious of everyone" to "lynch Yamato!!!!" 1.5 hours before the deadline is terribly scummy, and I think Wave is our best shot for tomorrow.

On August 25 2014 09:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Wave
When he re-enters the thread when suspicions start being pushed, he first votes Yamato.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=61#1205

Now this post spends a lot of time talking about nothing. Talks about how he thinks Rayn is town but is tempted to lynch him for being annoying, talks about not wanting to lynch myself or Rayn, then finally moves onto his Yamato vote. 66% of this post is poitnless and has nothing to do with why Yamato is scum. This strikes me as very suspicious, but we haven't gotten to the main evidence int his case yet.

Anyway, after he votes Yamato, look at the amount of people he is about to call scum in the ensuing discussion:





That's a selection from pages 5-6 of his filter. I'd recommend you all take a look through it. The guy calls myself, Jat, Damdred, Xatalos, and VA suspicious, all while antagonizing Rayn.

So there are two possible explanations for this:
1) He is a townie involved and trying to figure out the game.
2) He is scum trying to spread suspicion on everything.

#1 is not the case because of what happens next. Wave takes a break from the thread, and comes back with:


And then he proceeds to tunnel the fuck out of Yamato. Gone are his suspicions of basically everyone in the thread. Gone are his suspicions of me and Xatalos. Gone is everything in his filter except lynch Yamato.

This sudden switch from "suspicious of everyone" to "lynch Yamato!!!!" 1.5 hours before the deadline is terribly scummy, and I think Wave is our best shot for tomorrow.

On August 24 2014 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, so 1.5h to go.
Who the fuck are we lynching?

On August 25 2014 09:44 justanothertownie wrote:

plx share

On August 25 2014 09:53 Hapahauli wrote:


You had "suspicion" on a lot more than 3-4. And if your interpreting your actions to be anything other than antagonizing Rayn, I find that laughable. You spend more time in your post that voted yamato talking about Rayn and how you were thinking about lynching him for being annoying.

As for you always being unsure of your own scumreads - I will read some of your town games. I find it rediculous how many people you can call suspicious after dropping a vote on someone though.

On August 25 2014 09:52 justanothertownie wrote:

Wut? Surely you will have time to read damdred at some point before the lynch?!

On August 25 2014 09:57 Hapahauli wrote:


Ok. Why?

On August 25 2014 09:58 Hapahauli wrote:


U so pumped and excited to play yo.

On August 25 2014 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Hm well atleast I was right about Rayn

Now who to vote...

On August 25 2014 10:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Nah I changed my mind on you. I'm thinking Damdred or VA.

On August 25 2014 10:13 turtlevine wrote:


It was GB's idea, he didn't even explain why KSC was scum, or even mention the read in our Mason QT. I just felt like given that we might potentially both die, I have an obligation to write a case for him since he couldn't be around to write it himself. I did what I could! I'm sure he'll show up shortly with an even better case.