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All in all: this is not how I play as scum.
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Blues should not claim because VA is clearly getting lynched regardless.
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On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum).
1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all.
2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle.
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KSC: if you just dislike my vote being on VA, then shouldn't both of the Mason votes on VA make you think of something?
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On August 26 2014 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
Blues should not claim because VA is clearly getting lynched regardless.
VA had no reason to fake claim, why not give some reads, be more active and convince people you are town that way
His use of the role was bad and a fake claim had much easier outs.
He is un cc'd
Like how hard you are pushing this just adds to the scum reasons.
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On August 26 2014 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
KSC: if you just dislike my vote being on VA, then shouldn't both of the Mason votes on VA make you think of something?
turtle doesn't read the thread.
I don't think GB is that good honestly
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On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle.
1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all.
2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't.
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On August 26 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
Blues should not claim because VA is clearly getting lynched regardless. VA had no reason to fake claim, why not give some reads, be more active and convince people you are town that way His use of the role was bad and a fake claim had much easier outs. He is un cc'd Like how hard you are pushing this just adds to the scum reasons.
Honestly how you want blues to claim doesn't look very good for you. Even if you're town it just helps scum/SK to bluehunt (the ones shouting for blues to claim probably aren't blues themselves unless they're just trying to heavily WIFOM haha).
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On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't.
I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die.
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On August 26 2014 19:57 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
Blues should not claim because VA is clearly getting lynched regardless. VA had no reason to fake claim, why not give some reads, be more active and convince people you are town that way His use of the role was bad and a fake claim had much easier outs. He is un cc'd Like how hard you are pushing this just adds to the scum reasons. Honestly how you want blues to claim doesn't look very good for you. Even if you're town it just helps scum/SK to bluehunt (the ones shouting for blues to claim probably aren't blues themselves unless they're just trying to heavily WIFOM haha).
the first 2 reasons? sick dodge
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On August 26 2014 19:57 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't. I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die.
There was a high chance that Hapa+jat would switch back to yamato to keep me alive though.
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On August 26 2014 19:58 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:57 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 Xatalos wrote:
Blues should not claim because VA is clearly getting lynched regardless. VA had no reason to fake claim, why not give some reads, be more active and convince people you are town that way His use of the role was bad and a fake claim had much easier outs. He is un cc'd Like how hard you are pushing this just adds to the scum reasons. Honestly how you want blues to claim doesn't look very good for you. Even if you're town it just helps scum/SK to bluehunt (the ones shouting for blues to claim probably aren't blues themselves unless they're just trying to heavily WIFOM haha). the first 2 reasons? sick dodge
I guess because he hasn't done anything like that so far and it isn't as easy as it sounds?
It's true though that the claim could be seen as "too bad to be fake". Even so it's really quite beneficial for scum to make that exact claim. 1) not much information for town 2) potentially get rid of blues by making them to claim
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On August 26 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:57 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't. I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die. There was a high chance that Hapa+jat would switch back to yamato to keep me alive though.
meh that wasn't how I viewed it, they both switched onto robik with only about 30 seconds left and then you switched after them. Like I said the vote doesn't clear you at all. You basically just voted the other lynch target that wasn't yourself to avoid death. The fact that this has been explained multiple times to you but you still think it clears you as town is baffling.
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On August 26 2014 20:02 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:57 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't. I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die. There was a high chance that Hapa+jat would switch back to yamato to keep me alive though. meh that wasn't how I viewed it, they both switched onto robik with only about 30 seconds left and then you switched after them. Like I said the vote doesn't clear you at all. You basically just voted the other lynch target that wasn't yourself to avoid death. The fact that this has been explained multiple times to you but you still think it clears you as town is baffling.
I don't think it necessarily clears me, as I already explained that I don't fully agree with Damdred's view of the situation. I think it was too chaotic to know the outcome for sure. I'm just saying that as scum I would have taken the risk of keeping my vote on yamato (Robik was GF and not really suspected until then, so he'd have better chances of staying alive and winning at LYLO - especially if he got a green Cop check or something). At least it should slightly improve your image of me. Not that it hugely matters to me what you think at this point since you're extremely tunneled.
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Anyway Xat it appears, much to my displeasure, that we are not lynching you today.
But one of the main reasons I am not voting on VA is because Xat and Hapa are doing it.
I don't really give a shit about anything turtle does at this point. He is confirmed town but his reads or votes are meaningless.
Same with GB i just don't think he has looked at the game properly.
By the way before anyone jumps on this being inconsistent with my "assosicative playstyle" GM and turtle are confirmed town by roles but their play has not impressed me and they dont read or analyse the game the way I do, for this reason I do not put much stock in their votes or reads.
When people like Dam or WoS give a read I take it more seriously because I think they have played in a town way and they seem to read the game in a similar way to me.
"But WoS voted on VA why don't you?" as I mentioned I have my own specific reasons to not vote on VA.
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On August 26 2014 20:06 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 20:02 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:57 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't. I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die. There was a high chance that Hapa+jat would switch back to yamato to keep me alive though. meh that wasn't how I viewed it, they both switched onto robik with only about 30 seconds left and then you switched after them. Like I said the vote doesn't clear you at all. You basically just voted the other lynch target that wasn't yourself to avoid death. The fact that this has been explained multiple times to you but you still think it clears you as town is baffling. I don't think it necessarily clears me, as I already explained that I don't fully agree with Damdred's view of the situation. I think it was too chaotic to know the outcome for sure. I'm just saying that as scum I would have taken the risk of keeping my vote on yamato (Robik was GF and not really suspected until then, so he'd have better chances of staying alive and winning at LYLO - especially if he got a green Cop check or something). At least it should slightly improve your image of me. Not that it hugely matters to me what you think at this point since you're extremely tunneled.
He was suspected he had the majority of the votes when you switched
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On August 26 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 20:06 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 20:02 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:57 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 09:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm amazed not that i don't think xata is scummy but you agreed he wasn't the lynch and yet you waste your vote....why exactly? At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles. Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read. read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum. I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't. I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die. There was a high chance that Hapa+jat would switch back to yamato to keep me alive though. meh that wasn't how I viewed it, they both switched onto robik with only about 30 seconds left and then you switched after them. Like I said the vote doesn't clear you at all. You basically just voted the other lynch target that wasn't yourself to avoid death. The fact that this has been explained multiple times to you but you still think it clears you as town is baffling. I don't think it necessarily clears me, as I already explained that I don't fully agree with Damdred's view of the situation. I think it was too chaotic to know the outcome for sure. I'm just saying that as scum I would have taken the risk of keeping my vote on yamato (Robik was GF and not really suspected until then, so he'd have better chances of staying alive and winning at LYLO - especially if he got a green Cop check or something). At least it should slightly improve your image of me. Not that it hugely matters to me what you think at this point since you're extremely tunneled. He was suspected he had the majority of the votes when you switched
It wasn't based on a case or anything though. Just a coinflip because it felt like both me and yamato could be town.
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On August 26 2014 20:11 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 20:06 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 20:02 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:57 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 19:50 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2014 19:44 Xatalos wrote:On August 26 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:
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At the start of the day I said he wasn't the lynch
But with Recent developments with regards to Xata and Hapa pushing on VA and further analysis of the claim and NK's. He is just much scummier than anyone by miles.
Onegu is probably mafia but in my opinion he is more of a coinflip right now than Xata who is 100% mafia. If it comes to lynching onegu and someone who I think is town then I will switch but otherwise I have no reason not to vote my top scum read.
read my filter for recent developments on why Xata is scum.
I'm amazed how I'm "100% mafia" when I've 1) lynched Mafia D1 2) played exactly like I always play as town 3) been the most active player in the game (like usually as town) 4) showed a lot of interest in who actually gets lynched D1 (which I never do as scum). 1) your vote doesn't clear you at all. Firstly you were basically saying "let's kill yamato, who is noe clearly town, then when it was down to wire it was either you or Robik so you switching means fuck all. 2.3.4) All the same point. I responded to this many times. Your town play is not hard to mimic as scum, Most of what you write is meangingless confused waffle. 1) Damdred seems to believe that I could have saved myself by keeping to push yamato. I'm not 100% sure about that but I would certainly take that opportunity as scum (considering I was already under heavy suspicion and Robik wasn't even really suspected until then). Hapa+jat had sworn to keep me alive after all. 2) We must agree to disagree then. If it was so easy to mimic, I would play like this as scum. But I don't. I personally think Dam is wrong about that, looking at the votes it was between you and yamato and then people switched off YAM and onto Robik. so you had to switch to not die. There was a high chance that Hapa+jat would switch back to yamato to keep me alive though. meh that wasn't how I viewed it, they both switched onto robik with only about 30 seconds left and then you switched after them. Like I said the vote doesn't clear you at all. You basically just voted the other lynch target that wasn't yourself to avoid death. The fact that this has been explained multiple times to you but you still think it clears you as town is baffling. I don't think it necessarily clears me, as I already explained that I don't fully agree with Damdred's view of the situation. I think it was too chaotic to know the outcome for sure. I'm just saying that as scum I would have taken the risk of keeping my vote on yamato (Robik was GF and not really suspected until then, so he'd have better chances of staying alive and winning at LYLO - especially if he got a green Cop check or something). At least it should slightly improve your image of me. Not that it hugely matters to me what you think at this point since you're extremely tunneled. He was suspected he had the majority of the votes when you switched It wasn't based on a case or anything though. Just a coinflip because it felt like both me and yamato could be town.
You had no real credibility you think in the remaining 20 seconds you make a powerful post that takes them back off Robik and onto yam. be real. it was 4 robik 3 on you when you switched, stop trying to use the votes for credibility it just makes you scummier.
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Anyway Xat it appears, much to my displeasure, that we are not lynching you today.
But one of the main reasons I am not voting on VA is because Xat and Hapa are doing it.
I don't really give a shit about anything turtle does at this point. He is confirmed town but his reads or votes are meaningless.
Same with GB i just don't think he has looked at the game properly.
By the way before anyone jumps on this being inconsistent with my "assosicative playstyle" GM and turtle are confirmed town by roles but their play has not impressed me and they dont read or analyse the game the way I do, for this reason I do not put much stock in their votes or reads.
When people like Dam or WoS give a read I take it more seriously because I think they have played in a town way and they seem to read the game in a similar way to me.
"But WoS voted on VA why don't you?" as I mentioned I have my own specific reasons to not vote on VA.
I think you're town based on your persistence / lack of care for your own appearance, but I'll just say that your "associative playstyle" sucks  It would have merit if you based it on confirmed associations (confirmed/dead players), but it seems like you do exactly the opposite (you only put value on reads of unconfirmed+alive players). That's not how you play the game. It just creates a huge loop that feeds your confirmation bias over and over.
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Anyway I am just derailing town with this stuff I have rehased it before, everyone knows I think your mafia. You aren't being lynched today.
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