On August 31 2014 10:13 Superbia wrote:
Let's hope for PR magic. We need it.
Let's hope for PR magic. We need it.
I 100% agree. Cross our fingers and hope.
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On August 31 2014 10:13 Superbia wrote: Let's hope for PR magic. We need it. I 100% agree. Cross our fingers and hope. | ||
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We'll just have to wait and see what happens, and then make that call when we get there. | ||
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On September 01 2014 07:16 Barakos wrote: Are you all right, Jenny? . Still not good, but feeling more energized than the other days and my brain's been sort of waking up today, so that's a good thing. | ||
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Why did mafia target Breshke? | ||
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On September 01 2014 10:38 Superbia wrote: Fuck it, I'm just going to say it. PRs should out today, we're solving this game today. We don't get anything by sleeping. This is dumb. I really don't think PR's should out. It's something we can look at later, if at all, it's up to the PR's to decide. For now though, if someone was RB'd they should out. | ||
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On September 01 2014 10:53 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2014 10:50 JennyHell wrote: On September 01 2014 10:38 Superbia wrote: Fuck it, I'm just going to say it. PRs should out today, we're solving this game today. We don't get anything by sleeping. This is dumb. I really don't think PR's should out. It's something we can look at later, if at all, it's up to the PR's to decide. For now though, if someone was RB'd they should out. Why not? I've pointed out that we get nothing by sleeping. It's going to be a split decision either way. We get three towns to decide between two people. That's not true. I'm not going to tell you why it's not true. We shouldn't talk about it. If PR's know what they're doing they'll know what I'm talking about. Basically, you're wrong. We should definitely no-lynch. Simple as. | ||
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lilwade was modkilled for inactivity and not voting, so he probably didn't RB anyone. So either JK put his save on daydream or on abuse and it would have been wasted on abuse. Daydreamarine, were you RB'd? | ||
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Let's go win this boys. | ||
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On September 04 2014 10:14 Barakos wrote: I am the bulletproof and my protection was used up this night. HAHAHAHAHA We gottem bois! I was worried that Barakos would be the mafia that's got his way in to my town circle and I was right. He's just like Lord Tolkien from last game. Being townread by everyone until the very last end. I'm Prince Phillip, the real bulletproof and my vest was hit tonight. Barakos is the last mafia. Thanks for claiming my role, made it a lot easier to find you. Night 1 I tried superhard to be hit by that bullet, but that didn't happen. And I was thinking to myself, who'd not want me in final 3, probably Barakos. Daydream and Barakos had been buddying up to eachother so if I was out of the picture it would have been easy for him to misslynch Superbia. But I bet you didn't count on me being the BP, did ya?! Hah! I've even hinted earlier in the thread that I'm not a princess. On August 28 2014 04:57 JennyHell wrote: Marry I'm not quite ready to marry someone yet, but I do have a keen eye for Barakos. How about we do a temporary engagement. Will you be my lovely bride? In hindsight, such a shit tier read, but if we look past the fact that I read Barakos completely wrong, I asked him to be my bride. Why would I as a girl ask a guy to be my BRIDE?! Because I am a GUY in the game. I am Prince Phillip, the Dashing Hero. Other than that I've been super towny all game, even multiple times told everyone to not feel like anyone is confirmed even though it's made you guys feel iffy about me. Also, why I wanted no claims yesterday was because if a save happens or if I get hit then it's so much easier to find out who the last mafia is. You played a really good game, Barakos, but it's over for you now. So, let's get rid of this scum and win the game! ##Vote: Barakos | ||
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On September 04 2014 10:26 Barakos wrote: What do you think, did I do the last few days? I reread everything, in case it would come to a situation like this... or if any discussion would have sparked up before D4. But since we all got into that silent agreement, that it would only benefit, if they get more information before their final shot, that didn't happen... But well. Let's see, what Jenny claims, once she joins us... The way it is set up at the moment, it could also be you being the one, who has to make the final call. Because he knew he had shot me and I didn't die. Nice to out yourself with your extra information there, Barakos! | ||
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If I was mafia, would I really CC someone who's been townread the entire game? Or would I go for ez win ez rares by trying to act towny and get you out instead, seeing as he's had you as scummy almost the entire game? Why would I intentionally make it extra difficult for myself? Conclusion, I am not mafia. I am actually the real BP and I'm CC'ing because he claimed my flippin role. I've seen you as town because I saw a bit of myself and my friend from our first game in you. While other kept calling you scummy I called you (word I'm not allowed to use) town. Although not the kindest of reads, I was being genuine and honest about it. While he tried to fling scum. | ||
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lilwade, lilwade, wherefore art thou, lilwade?! On the mountain tonight? How can I follow you if there's no footprint to be seen? This was part of my first ever post in the thread. I have explained that I thought he softed tracker, why would I think tracker out of everything unless I knew there was a bulletproof? Which is also why I gave him slack. I also didn't pick up on the "cop soft claim" that someone thought meatpudding did, because my mind was never on the setup of there being a cop. On August 26 2014 16:59 JennyHell wrote: Hi MihZaaaa, we shall indeed cleanse the world! Whether I am mafia or town I would still play the exact same way, or at least try to, so that in the off chance I would get mafia in a game in the future it'll be easier for me to seem towny. I like that you are being wary of me. I am not confirmed to anyone but myself, but that said, I am a good ally to have in this world where wickedness have taken over. We need to banish it once and for all and save all of disneytopia! First time I say I'm not confirmed, more on that later. I do mention how I'm a good ally to have, because I am a PR. When you asked me to explain my comments about Meatpudding, I went back to the old game and dug out his old opening at some random page to show what I meant. So I took the effort to actually SHOW you what I meant and not just explain it. On August 27 2014 02:29 JennyHell wrote: Evening, my dears. Let's have a lil chat, shall we? I'll start with responding to this: Show nested quote + On August 27 2014 01:39 Superbia wrote: Also I want Jenny to explain herself on the MeatPush (very top of post). Ok, so.. Since there are some of you that have expressed concern for my "push" on meatpope, I have now gone back to the old thread to give you an example of what kind of post I'm used to seeing from meatpoke. Example 1.) This is his first post in the thread. The game started July 29 2014 15:20. and his absolutely first post came in July 30 2014 11:09. Show nested quote + On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote: Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. As you can see, no flavour, no nothing. Not at all the same kind of opening as he did this game. Which is why it caught my eyes. And I wanted to let everyone know that he doesn't seem the same as last game.. Why? Ask him, not me. But here's my 2 cents. The reason might have been because he entered so late in the game so we've already come to the serious part of day 1, so there was no opportunity for him to add flavour. Although, if you ask me, I'd probably add flavour either way. People have been known to call me "Flavour Flav" after all. Or, he might just be scum, wanting to hide among the flavour of everyone else. The fact that it was different than his last game still stands. It was different, so I'm going to keep my eyes on meatproduce. It's really not that difficult to understand, is it? Here is another time where I explain that noone is confirmed to anyone but themselves so far: On August 27 2014 02:35 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2014 22:29 Barakos wrote: On Jenny: I think Jenny is playing very similar to the last Newbie-Mafia and trys to get the thread going / is very vocal, so seeing that she was town the last game, I read her as town for now, although i am not very sure, since she stated herself: On August 26 2014 16:59 JennyHell wrote: Whether I am mafia or town I would still play the exact same way, or at least try to, so that in the off chance I would get mafia in a game in the future it'll be easier for me to seem towny. Still most towny person at the moment. It's healthy to be suspicious of everyone. One should never be treated as a "confirmed" unless they actually are 100% confirmed. At least that's my motto and I try to make everyone adapt the same kind of mindset. Besides, who wouldn't try to appear town as mafia, amirite? It's in the basics of the game really, otherwise they may as well just concede and be done with. I've done this multiple times during the game to make sure that noone was seen as confirmed that wasn't. New people easily see this as a way to gain easy town points but extremely rarely does a mafia do this because he's basically shooting himself in the foot and telling the town to not see him as confirmed town. He'd either want to do what lilwade was doing and try to skate by without having too much attention on them, or they want to do like Barakos and be seen as town by everyone and stay there to more easily win in final 3. Barakos did a good job pretending to be town. so I mentioned I didn't notice a cop soft claim, because my mind wasn't in that territory at all, I did however notice other small things, like your miscalculation of your reads. And asked you about it. On August 27 2014 02:51 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2014 01:37 Superbia wrote: Alright, I'm ready to make a small town circle and mafia circle already! I would like to welcome the follow people to my town circle: - JennyHell - Barakos I would like to lynch the following people: - Breshke - abuse (borderline) I saw you gave +1 -1 etc to people in your post and decided to check if they came to the same conclusion as you did here at the end with your mafia and town circle. The town seem fine, but on the lynch you skipped mentioning MihZaaaa that had a worse score than abuse. Care to explain that? Here is a post about the cop soft claim. On August 28 2014 04:30 JennyHell wrote: Barakos To start with I have a question. Do you usually answer your own questions before you let the person you ask answer? "Hey, I'm feeling awesome today, how are you?". I agree that if abuse had never answered the question himself, it would have been scummy. But to call him out on it so shortly after the question is a bit odd I think. You agreed with me on the soft-claim not really seeming like a soft claim, which could mean numerous things. I know why I felt that way, but even though you explained it, I have yet to truly figure out why. You picked up on the same thing I did about Superbia and his flawed maths, so that means you're paying attention and you chose to phrase it by asking rather than accusing, which I liked. You are creating conversation with people, putting your logic out there, taking theirs in. You take everyone into consideration, not leaving anyone out, which I like. There's really no need for you rethink your standpoint on me, Barakos. But again, some general suspicion is healthy. Like I said, I know why I didn't think it was a cop claim, because I'm BP so I know it wasn't an option. And again I told people that general suspicion/not confirming non confirmed is good. On August 28 2014 04:35 JennyHell wrote: Before I give my BMK list I'd like to further express 2 things. 1.) We all need to make shorter concise posts, so that mafia can't hide in the big posts. It's much easier when they have time to make their big posts that they can make more sense. Just fyi. 2.) I didn't quite expect people to take my own explanation for how I play as me being neutral. Did I scare you all from thinking I'm town? Let me make this clear. Would I play the same? Yes! People should always go out of their way to be as towny as possible. Mafia will have a much harder time being townies than actual townies, would you believe that?! Amazing how it works. On 1, I bring up a valid point. It's very towny! On 2, I facepalm at the fact that everyone take my "noone is confirmed" as a "read me as neutral" because it's sooo BS that everyone got iffy about me and me ONLY when I said that, when it was supposed to be meant for all. It was to protect us from situations like this one with Barakos. On August 28 2014 05:14 JennyHell wrote: Superbia, how invested do you feel in this game? Do you feel like you're being misread and if so, what would you be able to do differently to make people see you less scummy? Do you think mafia will try to stay under the radar or go out of their way and be one of the more noticable people? This is where I saw something of myself and my friend in you, Superbia. I was asking relevant questions and it's also where I started to have an odd feeling about Barakos, but decided to put it aside for the time being. I always carried that worry that Barakos is the mafia having infiltrated my town circle. On August 28 2014 06:01 JennyHell wrote: Seeing your responses to my questions I am beginning to like you a bit more. I'm willing to change my vote from you. You're probably just misunderstood town.. FFFFf.. haha. You're getting a townpass for today, I want to see more from you during the night and tomorrow.[/b Here you can see me "flipping" on you, because I saw myself in you. Flipping a read is not scummy if there is something that triggers it. I explained day1 how I was when I played my first game. I'll quote it for you here, it'll explain my questions to you about how invested you were in the game. On August 27 2014 02:42 JennyHell wrote: Another thing I'd like to specify is what I mean whenever I say I was "too towny". Last game was my first forum mafia game, and it kind of came as a shock to me how seriously I took it, how invested I was in it and when I was dead I was still following it closely, trying to solve the puzzle, almost ripping my hair out of my head from the frustration of not being able to voice my opinion and help the town on their way to victory. Therefore, according to me, I was too towny. Too many people read me as town and mafia decided to get rid of me. Yes, I agree that taking a rolebullet as VT is a good thing, but I just really really really wanted to play! I hope that explains it a bit better. On August 28 2014 07:00 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2014 06:42 Barakos wrote: On August 28 2014 04:57 JennyHell wrote: Marry I'm not quite ready to marry someone yet, but I do have a keen eye for Barakos. How about we do a temporary engagement. Will you be my lovely bride? As tempting as it sounds to have you as my bastion of light, hope and all that is good in this world of wickedness... I am afraid I can't fully commit to being your bride right now. But let's talk some more and see, where it goes from here, shall we? You say lilwade is playing like last game and therefore have him in your banglist for now, even though he isn't very active. And at the same time your feeling about meatpudding is, that he plays a different game as last time, yet still you give him enough credit to put him on your banglist - at least for a one night stand. So my question is - why do you treat both the same, while only one of them is behaving as he used to do in the last game? It's really simple actually. Meat is scummy because I don't recognize this side of him, but his logic and his reads makes sense to me even if I don't agree fully on them. I like his approach to the game. lilwade is acting the same, and although he's not contributed much, I don't feel ready to lynch him this day due to something I noticed that I don't feel comfortable sharing right now. Many things to take note of in this one. 1, me asking Barakos to be my BRIDE. 2, Barakos saying he's not willing to be my BRIDE. 3, Me yet again talking about the soft I thought lilwade made. If I spoke of it I would have outed to mafia what possible setups I saw and that I had more information so they'd know I was a role. Seeing as the mafia had a roleblocker they knew the setup and if I would have said I thought lilwade was the tracker they'd know I'm BP and I'd never take a bullet, which is something I wanted to do because it would have given town an extra misslynch before being in a bad situation. On August 28 2014 07:19 JennyHell wrote: It's less than 3 hours left. I'd like for people to get more active! We need more conversation amongst eachother. Short bursts and more people active. Here I again mention it should be shorter posts so easier to out mafia and easier to make quick conversation. This was also a very important moment of the first day where no wagons had been made yet. So my next post was: On August 28 2014 07:20 JennyHell wrote: lilwade, even though I get your vote on MihZaaaa, he currently doesn't seem like a possible lynch. Can we have 2 wagons made? Town alert! Town alert! Town alert! On August 28 2014 07:58 JennyHell wrote: Two hours left and we still haven't sorted out proper wagons. This is atrocious! It's like a playground for mafia! Wasn't it, Barakos? Good job getting gobble misslynched even though I tried my hardest to save him. What followed was lots of short bursts of be trying to defend gobble who wouldn't even defend himself properly, which I did because I felt in my gut that he was town. Risky play indeed. Best case scenario he flips town and I take a bullet in the night. Worst case scenario, he flips mafia and I seem like I tried to protect a mafia teammate and then I'd have to claim my role, which I did not want to do. But I felt super strongly that gobble was town so I defended him and 1 of the mafia moved off him, along with 1 town. I called out flaws people made in their votes. Saying he's probably town but still voting for him. Noone else picked up on that detail. Town alert! I took my time with gobble, tried to reason with him, ask him questions. I was the first to give him a shot, and only after I did others started too. On August 28 2014 08:25 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2014 08:21 gobbledydook wrote: On August 28 2014 08:13 JennyHell wrote: Can people stop using the F-word please! This is bang out of order and should not exist, especially not in a newbie game. Take all the bad attitude and get it out of here. Gobble - The way you've been acting is just making things worse. It's making people read you scummy. Resorting to bad manner instead of trying to explain yourself is not a good town play. Why won't you even give it a try? I did. No one listened. Wrote off what I said as useless. If no one is going to listen to me anyway why should I try Because even if you feel like noone is listening you should definitely try try try and try again. If you are dying now, then don't let your last time alive be fruitless. Scumhunt, get your reads out there. Make people realize at least further down the line that they were wrong, being able to get back to your posts, and make new calculations of the game based on that new information. Giving up is the absolute worst thing ever, especially if one is VT, because people think that "Oh VT have no important role" wrong. It's a numbers game. If we keep our numbers up it'll increase our chances of outliving the mafia. On August 28 2014 08:44 JennyHell wrote: What I don't like right now is how hard everyone was willing to go at gobble without questioning him at all. It wasn't until I started asking questions that other people did too. Then again I pressured people about the wagons: On August 28 2014 08:48 JennyHell wrote: Can we please please please divide into two proper wagons? On August 28 2014 09:18 JennyHell wrote: Wouldn't it be more beneficial for town if we lynch a mafia today instead of a ragemonster that clearly overreacted but most people say it probably town yet still voting for? Cough cough town! On August 28 2014 09:23 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2014 09:20 Superbia wrote: Honestly does anyone else feel like this may just be a play from dook, or is it just me? To me he felt like annoyed town that flipped crazy balooba over something that I have no clue what. Right now the only way I see him mafia is if you're partnered with him, since he went craycray after your vote on him and maybe it's a buss by his teammate. I dno.. The only way I saw him as mafia at that point was if he flipped because his teammate bussed him. That didn't seem very likely, especially since I had you as a town read then. Another reason for my hard defense. On August 28 2014 09:33 JennyHell wrote: The point with my vote is that there is no caveat in my vote. I don't say "you're probably town, let's kill you!" Oh my gawd, can one get more towny? During the first night I took time to explain some things to the Roleplayer, town alert! On August 28 2014 11:29 JennyHell wrote: Daydreamarine, Your roleplaying is hilarious and I don't mind you doing it, but there are certain things you need to understand. You HAVE to vote. Everyone must vote before the end of the day. You need to figure out the 2 people you think are the wicked ones. If they outlive the rest of us this game is over and we have lost. It's basically a communicative puzzle. Don't expect many people liking your roleplay, because it's so out of the ordinary, it could make them feel as if you are not focusing on the game and could potentially get you mislynched. So if you intend on keeping on with the roleplaying, don't forget to actually analyze the game in ways that even us non-roleplayers can understand. That way we can read you where you are coming from and get a better knowledge of wether or not you are one of the wicked ones. During the night I gave you all some really important and good pointers. Yet again saying noone is confirmed. On August 28 2014 23:31 JennyHell wrote: I am not going to do much during the nightphase. Mafia doesn't need more reasons to shoot me and I will instead spend most of the nightphase sorting out my reads privately, doing some votecounting and what not. All I want to say is that the only one that is confirmed town is the guy that died. Noone else is confirmed. To me, it's me and a dead guy. To you it should be you and a dead guy. Yes, people have been doing towny things but that should not make them confirmed, me included. I went hard on defense of Gobble because I have experience of similar behaviour in people playing videomafia. There was no logical reason for him to flip as mafia in that particular moment unless so and so had happened. That along with the fact that everyone was willing to vote him off because of BM just felt like everyone dropped their initial thought of scumhunting and instead went for someone, like I pointed out they said, they feel is town but vote on anyways. We all need to go back, filter through all the bogus of day1 and try to sort our reads out. We have new information that gobble is confirmed town. Who did he align himself with, who went hard against him, who did he read as scum and why. All these things are something we need to take into consideration, and then we also need to look at the voting patterns. Who voted and when, who decided to go at him after he used profanity etc. Do some leg work people, I know I will. I come back and bring up logic about the voting, I also come back with info about gobble during the entire day1. I did crazy leg work, did the others?! On August 29 2014 05:08 JennyHell wrote: Barakos, you mention that if MihZaa flips red you think I could possibly be his scum partner. Try to see it from the other end. What if I were to flip scum, who'd be my partner then? Do you still reach the same conclusion that it would be MihZaaaa? That said, how likely do you feel it is that I flip scum after I've been vomiting town all over this entire game? Barakos mentioned me being scum if MihZaaa is scum. So I asked him to take the train from the other direction and see if he ended up where he started, town town town! He said something and then asked me not to ask him those kind of questions anymore, and I responded with this: On August 29 2014 06:14 JennyHell wrote: Barakos, the reason I asked was because you were willing to make analogies based on whether MihZaa flipped scum, so I wanted to see if you felt like you'd come to the same conclusion if you swapped it around, because I wouldn't have. Interaction with mafia goes both ways and if you are willing to put 2 people together, you must be able to see it lining up from both directions, but he couldn't, because none of us are mafia! Before night ended I made a super towny post about reads and then I gave my reads and quoted my previous post. On August 29 2014 06:37 JennyHell wrote: If I die tonight, then look in to these people: Breshke, I went hard at him and he was my final vote. He's also not contributed much in my opinion. lilwade, his activity is super low. I saw something in one of his posts that gave him a pass for the day and was going to keep my eyes on him for day 2. He should not be off the scum radar. Barakos, I know most of us are reading him as town but remember, noone is confirmed! Daydreamarine, I asked him a question during the night and tried to do it in a roleplay fashion. Make sure he answers it and hopefully that will help you with him. Remember this post: Show nested quote + On August 29 2014 06:20 JennyHell wrote: Moving on, what I'd like for us to do is this: 1. Be up front about your reads. It's ok to change your mind, it's not scummy. It shows you are willing to re-evaluate as more information comes up. 2. Don't leave anyone out. If you are unsure, say you are unsure and why. 3. Please please please!!! Do not say "I think he may be town but he's scummy" Pick one or at least which way they are leaning. Because it's hella confusing. I get one can be unsure of reads. I have many of those I am not a 100% on, but at some point you will have to start trusting yourself and your reads and instead allow them to change your mind according to what I said in point 1. Strong stances people. It's better to change your mind as more info comes to you. This is day 2 coming up and we've already had 1 mislynch. We can't afford many more. To end this post, no matter who dies, ask yourself who had anything to gain from this nightkill. I was talking as if I would die because I was hoping I'd get shot, so noone would have died. Also, look, both mafia in there. I should have listened to my own reads more. That's day1 and n1, I have to go do some cleaning now, got company tomorrow morning. I'll come back and finish this up a little bit later. This post is nastily long already anyways. | ||
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Ok, day 2. On August 29 2014 12:58 JennyHell wrote: Ok, so why was meatpudding the kill? The rolehunting seems real. I think it had something to do with that cop soft claim that was mentioned during day1. That even he said wasn't at all a soft. I guess they just didn't want to take the risk. The one that I knew was not real! On August 29 2014 14:39 JennyHell wrote: Today we really need to focus on creating wagons. Wagons help us get proper information about voting! The way day1 ended was not good for town. If we had proper wagons D1 I might have been able to save gobble from being mislynched. Therefore, asking for it D2. Abuse then came out and said he was roleblocked/jailkept/both. I ask him further questions about it, since I was also, and I felt it was more likely that I was jailkept than roleblocked if it was between me and abuse. Therefore, I shouldn't out that I was jailkept because then I give away the exact setup to mafia, seeing as the nightkill was meatpudding, the guy that supposedly claimed cop. On August 29 2014 17:44 JennyHell wrote: Abuse, a couple of questions while you are here: I have no clue what question I must have missed that you were talking about, would you mind directing me to it? Why do you think you were roleblocked? Do you think they think you softed a role? How come lilwade is so high on your list? I gave him a pass for Day1, but I don't feel the same anymore. I then followed up my comment about lilwade. On August 29 2014 23:50 JennyHell wrote: Ok, here's my explanation for why I gave lilwade slack day 1 and don't feel the same anymore. He comes out in his first post by saying "Let it go, let it goooo!" I instantly think about the song and realizes that there are some words in it that would fit a tracker amazingly, so I say "How am I supposed to follow you if there's no footprint to be seen?" to see if he reacts to it. He responded rather cheerfully and then at a later stage I felt that he softed tracker in one of his posts. Now that abuse has come out as being roleblocked it means that tracker is a less likely role, unless abuse is testing us all to see if he can out roles. Roles should not out, by the way. But that also meant that I'm back to the point where I feel like lilwade just haven't done enough. Therefore, no longer cutting him the slack that I did day1. However, I still had scummier reads, so I wanted to push on those first. But as you can see I no longer cut him the slack that Barakos claim I did. By this point I still didn't want to reveal to mafia what the setup was. I thought about it a long while and then came my post where I told people I was RB/JK. On August 30 2014 00:07 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2014 23:13 Breshke wrote: I don't think this is a question to the mod but if there is two mafia alive and one gets role blocked does it stop their kp for that night? Also if anyone else got role blocked you should out. I've been contemplating this back and forth for a while. I got roleblocked/jailed in the night as well. The reasoning for me not wanting to out this straight away is rather complex. I'll run it down for you guys so you can see my train of thought. I didn't know which one I was targeted by to start with, and I didn't want to out to the mafia team that there is a jailed, had it not been them that targeted me. I felt like it was more likely that I was jailed rather than roleblocked due to how towny I was most of the day but especially at the end of day1. I was likely to be one of the people mafia would want to get rid of. The kill being meatpudding and the whole ordeal about him softing cop made me think that mafia probably were non the wiser about the setup so far and thought there might be a cop among us townsfolk, so if I outed I was jailed/roleblocked and they weren't the ones doing it to me they would know the setup. If I don't out I was jailed/roleblocked and mafia did roleblock abuse, that would mean they still have it in the back of their mind that there is a cop out there. However, if mafia roleblocked me and they've seen that abuse was jailed and I haven't claimed it opens up a window in which they can fake claim cop and while I wouldn't let them live through it, it could possibly throw town in the wrong direction. Now that it's been a while and I've seen some discussion back and forth I'd rather make sure we are all on the same page here with what the setup is. That way we are all on the same level and we all have the same information. TL;DR - 2 people were roleblocked/jailed in the night. The setup is therefore setup A, unless abuse is lying to out a role, which seems highly unlikely in a newbie mafia game. This explains my abuse lie thing, a possibility since I didn't know who the mafia were. On August 30 2014 00:19 JennyHell wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2014 00:13 Superbia wrote: On August 30 2014 00:07 JennyHell wrote: On August 29 2014 23:13 Breshke wrote: I don't think this is a question to the mod but if there is two mafia alive and one gets role blocked does it stop their kp for that night? Also if anyone else got role blocked you should out. I've been contemplating this back and forth for a while. I got roleblocked/jailed in the night as well. The reasoning for me not wanting to out this straight away is rather complex. I'll run it down for you guys so you can see my train of thought. I didn't know which one I was targeted by to start with, and I didn't want to out to the mafia team that there is a jailed, had it not been them that targeted me. I felt like it was more likely that I was jailed rather than roleblocked due to how towny I was most of the day but especially at the end of day1. I was likely to be one of the people mafia would want to get rid of. The kill being meatpudding and the whole ordeal about him softing cop made me think that mafia probably were non the wiser about the setup so far and thought there might be a cop among us townsfolk, so if I outed I was jailed/roleblocked and they weren't the ones doing it to me they would know the setup. If I don't out I was jailed/roleblocked and mafia did roleblock abuse, that would mean they still have it in the back of their mind that there is a cop out there. However, if mafia roleblocked me and they've seen that abuse was jailed and I haven't claimed it opens up a window in which they can fake claim cop and while I wouldn't let them live through it, it could possibly throw town in the wrong direction. Now that it's been a while and I've seen some discussion back and forth I'd rather make sure we are all on the same page here with what the setup is. That way we are all on the same level and we all have the same information. TL;DR - 2 people were roleblocked/jailed in the night. The setup is therefore setup A, unless abuse is lying to out a role, which seems highly unlikely in a newbie mafia game. Can you explain the bolded part to me? To me it could just be a way to hard confirm yourself town while you LOL your way to probably another easy miss lynch during D2. Putting town in a MyLo situation (4 town vs 2 scum). In any case, I don't see a world in which mafia roleblocks you. You were jailed by town who tried to save you from being lynched. Firstly, in a MyLo you novote and let it go to final 3. Secondly, the bolded part. It's just one theory that circled in my head before I went to bed. Say abuse is mafia roleblocker, he outs he was roleblocked/jailed to see if anyone else says they have been. Someone that isn't the one he used his roleblocking on. That way he knows there is a jailkeeper in the game and can stop worrying about the possibility of a cop outing. This was again in correlation to the nightkill having "soft claimed cop". I got a fever and decided to spend most of the time resting. The activity was poor and there were no wagons. So I came back and helped town on the right foot. On August 31 2014 00:33 JennyHell wrote: Okay, I refuse to see this day end like day 1 did. We need to start forming the wagons so that everyone can defend themselves, should they need it, based on their timezones. MihZaa is going to be my target. He's a huge questionmark for me, he's done nada today which is an important day and this might seem like a dumb thing to say but I don't want to risk having a huge questionmark like him in final 3. Barakos, I like your case on Superbia, but I can't help but feel he is just donkey town. I also agree that Daydreamarine is town. I have huge difficulties seeing him as mafia, especially with all the "dumbtelling" he's been doing. And I love the fact that he was willing to give up the roleplay and try this game out. Breshke, still not feeling ok with you, but atleast you've been here and acted somewhat more ok today. I will keep my eyes on you and just because you're not MY wagon for today doesn't mean you are town. lilwade, I'm done giving you slack for softing Tracker. I wouldn't be surprised if I just misread the entire situation and you didn't soft at all. You need to amp up your activity if you're to convince me you're town. abuse, I still have you as a towny. You and Barakos both gave good reasons for superbia being scummy, and while I don't necessarily agree it just feels like it's towny coming from you. As soon as you came out with having been roleblocked I kept asking myself "Why would mafia target abuse?" and this semi-confirmed you for me. They obviously thought you were a threat enough to want to block you. If it's the other way around, that I was blocked and you were jailed, which I don't think is likely, then I don't understand what the Jailer is doing. Anyways, let's form those wagons! ##Vote: MihZaaa As you can see I didn't even tell my stance on Barakos this day because I had put him back to neutral. lilwade was still scummy and I asked him to amp up his activity if he were to prove himself town to me. On August 31 2014 00:40 JennyHell wrote: Vote vote vote people. The sooner you vote so we get an overview the better for town! Wow, look at that towny making a towny comment! On August 31 2014 02:20 JennyHell wrote: lilwade, MihZaa, Superbia As soon as you guys log on, make sure to vote. The sooner we have our wagons the better overview town gets and the wagons can defend themselves. Living in the dark, not knowing where day2 is headed is bad. We don't want a repeat of day1. Another towny comment, especially since I didn't like 2 of the people in there. lilwade and MihZaa. I did not want mafia to swing the votes at the end. Now take a look at these 2 comments: On August 31 2014 09:44 JennyHell wrote: I've already said that I gave lilwade slack day1 due to thinking he softed tracker etc. That is no longer an available role and I wanted to see way more from him. Right now I see him as rather scummy for not taking part in this. I woke up just to be here when it ends btw. On August 31 2014 09:46 JennyHell wrote: Totally not feeling better, but I wanted to be here for the end of day. As a mafia I would have known I'd already secured a mislynch due to the 2 wagons, so I wouldn't have cared to set an alarm and wake up when having fever, just to be there at the end. I cared enough to put my own health aside and want the best for town. If this doesn't speak for me being town, I don't know what does. On August 31 2014 10:13 JennyHell wrote: This is bad.. We'll enter mylo.. Fffff... A genuine reaction to what might happen unless I get shot or JK gets a save. On September 01 2014 03:33 JennyHell wrote: Not sure how I feel about PR claiming. It's very situational. The problem with one being a bulletproof is that mafia knows not to put their KP on that person in the night and it will be easier for them to find the jailkeeper, when in this situation he's very much needed. We'll just have to wait and see what happens, and then make that call when we get there. Said this because I am the BP and I didn't want to out because it's a bad play for town. If I was mafia I'd easily have gone with you on that silly idea, hoping for a PR to claim so I'd have an easier time knowing who is safe to kill in the night. This bit was funny actually. I wanted to help the JK without letting mafia know who it was. On September 01 2014 20:52 JennyHell wrote: None of you were RB'd? Maybe JK picked abuse, but that'd be an odd pick since it didn't seem likely mafia would pick him after finding out the JK went through even thought they RB'd him. aka, he's not the JK. they'd want to target 2 others. One with RB, one with their kill. lilwade was modkilled for inactivity and not voting, so he probably didn't RB anyone. So either JK put his save on daydream or on abuse and it would have been wasted on abuse. Daydreamarine, were you RB'd? I was fairly sure that Daydream was the jailkeeper as this point and hinted at him that he should claim being RB'd so that mafia wouldn't think he was the one, and perhaps try to shoot me instead, because then none would die in the night. I think he picked up on it, because he claimed having been RB'd. I think it worked, I was shot in the night. Sadly enough Daydream didn't do anything in the night so he was modkilled. SO MANY MODKILLS THIS GAME..... Why do people sign up and agree to this and then don't play it? Like, I don't get it. Have nothing to say in the night? At least make a smiley.. Or something to show you are still active. Town was forced into a mylo due to modkills and luckily my vest was hit in the night or otherwise Barakos would have won with a kill seeing as there was a modkill as well. And here we are, with Barakos claiming my role and me counterclaiming him, the way you want it to happen, Superbia. | ||
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On September 05 2014 00:41 Superbia wrote: Some directed questions for now: Jenny, why did you want to marry Barakos at EoD2? Barakos, why did you agree? Because I wasn't sure on him anymore and therefore I wanted to see where he stood by testing him with that question. He had made some comments before that which said he was ok with lilwade because I gave him slack, but he wanted MihZaaaa gone because he had been silent. It seemed a bit off and I wasn't sure what to think of Barakos at this point. I'll show you. On August 31 2014 09:28 Superbia wrote: Alright, thanks Amiko. Do we want to start a push on lilwade? On August 31 2014 09:33 Barakos wrote: I am not sold on lynching wade. Jenny gave him the benefit of the doubt. If anybody deserves to get lynched for inactivity this day, it is MihZaaa, who failed to post and vote. Amiko - what happens in the case of this double-infraction? On August 31 2014 09:42 Barakos wrote: Actually... I don't fancy voting for you over MihZaaa anymore. This silence is annoying. I will digg into lilwade tomorrow to get him talking, Jenny is absolutely right, when she says, that blank-reads shouldn't be in mylo, MihZaaa is a blank read, so get rid of him... On top of that, you made a lot more sense today, than you did all D1 and your posts got more serious. Maybe this pressure was, what was needed, to get you on valid town-game. ##unvote ##vote MihZaaa On August 31 2014 09:44 JennyHell wrote: I've already said that I gave lilwade slack day1 due to thinking he softed tracker etc. That is no longer an available role and I wanted to see way more from him. Right now I see him as rather scummy for not taking part in this. I woke up just to be here when it ends btw. | ||
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