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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On May 04 2014 14:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Yup. Makes sense to me and I figured as such. Nobody who voted BH is cleared today. Except me 'cause I pushed him yesterday :D :D :D And how exactly does that make you town? As scum you would not know that you are pushing the traitor. Whereas mafia could be pretty sure that either slam or BH was traitor yesterday. 4/5 | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
It appears as though I'm not going to be able to keep the raving masses from putting your head in a noose tomorrow, so my suggestion to you is to reveal details about your QT. Specifically, who else was recruited with you. If you can't do that, I'm afraid I and everyone else has no choice but to assume you are scum and you will be lynched. There was once a time where I would be considered for night kill; sadly I fear this time is long past but just in case people need to look into (and by look into I mean lynch with cleansing fire) Poofter. Even if people have found him somewhat towns in some way, think about pure role speculation. We have had a mafia dayvig flip, and we know of two confirmed town dayvigs. Is the more likely scenario to have three town vigs to scum's 1? Unlikely IMO. Poofter is scum 95% (I can't give that marv guarantee no matter how good I feel). Palmar and caller are worth looking into with some scrutiny as well. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I feel pretty decent about the remaining scum being amongst those I've named. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 05 2014 06:11 WaveofShadow wrote: Can you maybe take a more in-depth peek at JAT and poofter?So here's the deal Foolishness. It appears as though I'm not going to be able to keep the raving masses from putting your head in a noose tomorrow, so my suggestion to you is to reveal details about your QT. Specifically, who else was recruited with you. If you can't do that, I'm afraid I and everyone else has no choice but to assume you are scum and you will be lynched. There was once a time where I would be considered for night kill; sadly I fear this time is long past but just in case people need to look into (and by look into I mean lynch with cleansing fire) Poofter. Even if people have found him somewhat towns in some way, think about pure role speculation. We have had a mafia dayvig flip, and we know of two confirmed town dayvigs. Is the more likely scenario to have three town vigs to scum's 1? Unlikely IMO. Poofter is scum 95% (I can't give that marv guarantee no matter how good I feel). Palmar and caller are worth looking into with some scrutiny as well. We 100% poofter is a vig JAT claimed repeatedly to be a vig We're not working in a world with 4 vigs, we're working with 5 or 4 and a liar for no reason (okay yeah, shoot x ---> ummm, I can't? ---> DED). | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I dunno I'd look into him after foolishness and poofter maybe. There are scummier people than him still IMO. This is my last post I think so I dunno wanna comment on my list at all . Or about how to deal with foolishness or poofter? | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
5/5 | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On May 05 2014 06:11 WaveofShadow wrote: So here's the deal Foolishness. It appears as though I'm not going to be able to keep the raving masses from putting your head in a noose tomorrow, so my suggestion to you is to reveal details about your QT. Specifically, who else was recruited with you. If you can't do that, I'm afraid I and everyone else has no choice but to assume you are scum and you will be lynched. There was once a time where I would be considered for night kill; sadly I fear this time is long past but just in case people need to look into (and by look into I mean lynch with cleansing fire) Poofter. Even if people have found him somewhat towns in some way, think about pure role speculation. We have had a mafia dayvig flip, and we know of two confirmed town dayvigs. Is the more likely scenario to have three town vigs to scum's 1? Unlikely IMO. Poofter is scum 95% (I can't give that marv guarantee no matter how good I feel). Palmar and caller are worth looking into with some scrutiny as well. You assume I'm scum if I don't reveal that information? Why would I reveal information like that that's only going to benefit the mafia? I'm sure everyone remaining in that QT is town so there's no way I'm handing the mafia the town circle. Also you're assuming based off what information? That you don't "like" my posts this game? That you don't like that I pushed a mafia lynch and pushed the traitor to be lynched? You say that I made a bad case on day 1 and that's enough to override everything else I've done? Also is it enough to override not killing say in the group of RoL, Palmar, Caller, gumshoe, Ace all of which are guilty of doing nothing this game? Because all I see is that you want to kill off the active members of the town and just leave the inactive players sitting. How well has that worked out for town's in past games (re: it never works)? Or are you listening to JAT's arguments which basically consist of: JAT: Foolishness is scum for this reason! Town: Actually that reason's been refuted because of X, Y and Z. JAT: Foolishness is scum precisely because that reason has been refuted! I'm not sure what game you're playing, but if you're making assumptions about a player being mafia based on feelings and not liking their post and just ignoring all the other things they've done for the town then you're definitely not playing mafia. So congratulations on not reading. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Those trying to lynch Foolishness I fail to understand. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 05 2014 06:54 WaveofShadow wrote: 3JAT has been tunnelling Foolishness all game to the exclusion of basically everything else though lying about being vig isn't a scummy thing to do necessarily. I dunno I'd look into him after foolishness and poofter maybe. There are scummier people than him still IMO. This is my last post I think so I dunno wanna comment on my list at all . Or about how to deal with foolishness or poofter? Yeah, mostly just trying to save for end of phase in case anything came up. I fully disagree that lying about being a vig is kosher, but I think I believe his claim. I don't THINK you post this if you're not really gonna be able to shoot (especially because the implication is shot first, lynch after) On May 01 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote: Also the fact that the dude he was considering shooting was oats, or at the very least when he kept asking me I'd say oats was my top read. A world of JAT/foolishness/oats would be really curious given N1/D2 stuff, where JAT seems to be pretty scummy on oats, and was with me in finding some of foolishness's comments regarding oats/the lynch/mafia control of the lynch to be off/wrong/illogical/someotherword. So I'm down with a purely speculatory world where if both JAT and poofter are vigis, and we don't think it's 3-1 or 4-1 in town's favor, JAT would get to be my green vigi and poofter my red.AUSTIN! Let's make a deal. I shoot oats dead and you lynch Foolishness with me. DEAL? Now I will really shut up for a while. I am already running out of posts again... HOLD ON GOING TO DINNER. I'LL FINISH THINKING ABOUT THIS LATER AND WANT TO LOOK BACK AT POOFTER'S D2 AGAIN CUZ FROM WHAT I REMEMBER HE WAS ALSO ABOARD THE OATS TRAIN. IF BOTH D2s LOOK GOOD THEN GOTTA FIND SOMETHING ELSE. THERE'S HALF AN ANSWER, OATS. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
You're mad at poofter for shooting his suspect? After he: 1) Pushed his shot repeatedly in the thread. 2) Made multiple cases about why his shot was mafia. 3) Has constantly been giving reads and pushing suspects in the thread. 4) Wanted to shoot Oats but believed that Oats flip would give town valuable information about the votes. Until someone posts a nice big case about why poofter is mafia he is not up for lynch and will not be considered in the slightest. Also the theory that mafia have day vigi shots so poofter is likely mafia because he confirmed having a shot is bogus. You know what mafia is probably doing? Waiting until there's like 11 players alive and if they have 4 members up just cap 3 people and auto-win. What a smart way to win instead of ya know randomly shooting during the day and drawing attention to yourself. Unless we're not playing mafia of course. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Lynch was great. It went like it should, optimal result for town. Like JAT pointed out though, for you there is still a small chance of me being scum if one was to imagine all possible scenarios, but I'm confident that there's no reason me and Alakaslam shouldn't be treated as conftown for now. Curious as for why Foolishness is so hush-hush about the QT. I don't like that at all. I feel like he posts as a townie would, but the things he posts are scummy. As far as I know, there is no reason why foolishness should be so sure that the QT is only town right now. Even in that case, I can understand not wanting to share possible tidbits of information that could be detrimental if found out by scum, but there is absolutely no reason to share anything Blazinghand and he have discussed between the two of them, or basically any discussion in the QT up to the point till BH was lynched. If there is any important information in there, it should be shared publicly, since it may already be known by scum, and there is no reason to keep town in the dark of information that scum may already have. Ace needs to be pressured to do something. Same with Palmar. prplhz play is really off. Don't let him fly under the radar. Don't let lurkers lurk too much. Keep an eye on the people that seem most town. I have a feeling one of them might not be as town as they appear. Just too hard to say which at this point. Tired -> Sleep. Hopefully alive tomorrow so I can bring something more constructive. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I have liked prplhz in the past, with BH flipping traitor I REALLY like him. Unless BH was recruited, mafia thought it was a town/town shizzle yesterday, with I guess Cephiro as a traitor or something (If Cephiro not OG mafia). Prplhz wanted to lynch FOOLISHNESS instead of BH/slam. People who wanted to straight up lynch Foolishness instead of BH/slam seem unlikely to be mafia, given that mafia could essentially guarantee 2 mislynches, or at very least 1 mislynch and 1 traitor kill (they know neither BH/slam is mafia mafia, just let town lynch one and then the other). It seems like too big an opportunity for scum to pass up at all. You can split yourselves on BH/slam if you're worried about all being on one side, but KNOWING that neither is mafia mafia means FREE MISLYNCHES to the mafia team. I don't see mafia passing up FREE MISLYNCHES in order to try and push Foolishness. Super especially if Fool is mafia, then prplhz is 200000% cleared (Hi there, I'd like to lynch this dude, who is mafia, instead of FREE MISLYNCHES). I can't capitalize that enough. Blah blah. JAT I don't really doubt your claim, it's a silly thing to claim and claim hard if you're not. But WoS was talking about speculation based off 4 vigis with poofter, when at the very least it's 5 vigis or 4 and a lie. I think that we've lynched scum twice in a row and we have scummy people and tomorrow isn't "let's lynch someone based on maybe speculation" though, not that it needs to be said. If I die, my list currently has prplz/ceph/slam as untouchable. Most everyone else on the table. Foolishness is my no-night-kills-no-new-information person for tomorrow. He's been circling so many lynch lists, people who died or would have died were scummy on him, his "mafia didn't worry, but oats is scum, but they didn't worry, oh also oats is mafia" stuff didn't make sense, blah blah blah. Also, when going to a mexican restaurant, ALWAYS CHECK TO SEE IF THERE IS A MARIACHI BAND. IT IS WAY MORE DIFFICULT TO TRY AND TALK WHEN A FRIGGIN' MARIACHI BAND IS PLAYING NEAR YOU. HOLY CRAP NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR MEXICAN GANGNAM STYLE 3 TIMES DURING ONE DINNER. ALSO DON'T FORGET IT'S ALMOST CINCO DE MAYO AND GO FOR MEXICAN. IT WILL TAKE FOREVER. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Given the disinterest in voting slam, both when I posted some meta stuff against him earlier and then voting him late (more the actual case-y stuff than the pure vote, because scum COULD have glommed onto that case saying "boy howdy I couldn't read oats, but you said he were garsh darn mafia and he were. Now I can't read slam but you say he's one of them mafia varmints so I reckon he might just be mafia"), it seems highly unlikely to me that mafia had recruited BH. I absolutely see the argument for thinking Ceph was the traitor, and between that AND the lack of push towards slam, I kinda think mafia was unsure on yesterday's lynch and thought Slam was the traitor (or ceph I guess with a fakeclaim). Whatevs. That's not particularly telling, except for prplhz (again, especially if fool is mafia). | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Day 3: RebirthofLegend (Town Martyr) has died! Day ends in . All players have 25 posts. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I must be that useless. Anyway I still think palmar, VE, ace scum possibilities. Drawing impossible conclusions & stuff. And And man, I feel clueless. | ||
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