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I am happy to lynch Yellow right here, these "joking" claims just cause chaos and confusion for us. His posts so far have been weak and he's not taking the game seriously. Will do some more reading and posting when I get the chance to at work. | ||
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On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote: Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. If you're jumping on board now, surely you have some questions of your own to ask him? Especially now that bunnies has cleared him, but you still think otherwise. Personally, I think "jokingly" claiming Mafia and sarcasm are awful town traits that we could do without. Worthy of a policy lynch? Probably not necessary with the amount of discussion being generated on this first day. But mtamburini, I gave you the pass because I didn't think Mafia would throw themselves into the spotlight immediately. Where's this leadership you promised us? | ||
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On April 30 2014 04:25 Yell0w wrote: Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody. I'm going to agree with this, wanting to make a conscious effort to appear town is also indicative of a new town player who lacks confidence. So far, I've been struggling because I want to make posts to avoid getting fos'd as an inactive, but at the same time I don't want to be rehashing existing ideas. | ||
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On April 30 2014 02:27 Amiko wrote: @ashwtini: We don't know how many mafia there are. In 13 player games, my guess would be 3 mafia, maybe also a serial killer. This is just based on knowing a popular 13-player setups is C9++ (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B#Setup_Determination) typically has 3 mafia. There's no certainty, though, since our setup is different (there's no medic/doctor, for instance). 2 mafia seems too few, though, so I would say 3>4>2. We can make some better guesses after n1 - based on the number of kills it can indicate if there's a vigilante or serial killer. You haven't talked much in thread yet, so here's a few questions: - Any thoughts on sweetfrost at this point in the game? - What is your current position on yell0w? Also, do you feel joking is indicative of being scum? Why? Sorry I didn't catch this post. My thoughts on sweetfrost are completely on the fence. They've pretty much been gunning for yellow all game, which is justifiable in a way. I posted my position on yellow a few posts ago, but basically, I don't like the joking or sarcasm because it causes confusion and is really something town could do without. | ||
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On April 30 2014 15:15 Epishade wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, so I've been looking through filters for a while now, and have come up with my likely scumteam candidates: Sweetfrost, Tamburini, and Ritoky. I'll give my reasoning. The main thing that I can see between these three is that all of them are pushing really hard for Yellow's lynch, but also clearing each other at the same time. Sweetfrost clears Ritoky as town and is trying to kill Yellow while attempting to discredit Bunny (and Sqrt) through these posts. On April 30 2014 05:43 Sweetfrost wrote: I can understand that it seems supicious that I don't want to voice an opinion on everyone in the game but since I'm not really sure what I think about the people I haven't talked about I feel it would be stupid to talk about them. I'm not going to give an state an opinion that I actually don't belive in. But I'm willing to say that I consider Ritoky cleared as town, I like his analysis and they don't seem supicious and he's not jumping on any bandwagons and instead making good independet analysis. I agree with him that sqrt posts are very numerous, short and prodding at people to make analysis all the time. I believe that it's a sign of sqrt being scum. So to sum it up. Cleared : ritoky Possible scum : Yellow/bunny and sqrt On April 30 2014 04:57 Sweetfrost wrote: Well as I stated I suspect Bunny being scum for his efforts of trying very hard to build up a positive relationship with everyone. See my previous posts. As for the rest I'm very unsure and still don't want to give a public opinion on anyone since it would just be misleading, I don't have an opinion on the rest yet. So the only thing I'm willing to say right now is that I don't trust Bunny and Yellow. Sweetfrost's plan was to undermine Bunny by saying that he thought she was trying too hard to play townie. I disagree and think Bunny was moving town in the right direction by engaging Yellow in that initial push. Ritoky has been slightly accusatory against Sqrt, which is in line with Sweetfrost's opinion on Sqrt as well, as shown in the post above. They are slowly building up support against Sqrt to lynch him at a later time it seems to me. On April 30 2014 05:26 ritoky wrote: sqrt:I don't know if it is a stylistic thing or what, but there's something weird here. Lots of prods, short comments, and question asking, not much in the way of legwork. Combine that with the lack of seriousness early on and it just strikes me as all very odd. I don't read him as projecting town in any way; whereas most other people I can read town aspects to what they do and say. My biggest problem with Ritoky though, is how quickly he changed his opinion on Yellow. He first decided that Yellow was likely not Scum when it seemed that pressure had been taken off Yellow. However, when Yellow was pressured again and started piggybacking off of what I said earlier, I think he saw an opportunity to bandwagon people against Yellow. On April 29 2014 12:14 ritoky wrote: I don't think yell0w is scum right now at all, he responded how he responded. It wasn't ideal, but he is sticking to his story saying it was a joke and I don't read him as hyper defensive about it. But you seem to be very pushy about this entire topic and very heavily deflecting for him. It could just be a legitimate read and belief that it is a joke, but you could also be mafia deflecting for another mafia or mafia trying to deflect/pocket a town who faced early pressure. ^Ritoky said this before Yellow got suspicion on him again. His wording here is what throws me off a bit. "I don't think Yellow is scum right now at all." He says this when pressure starts dropping off of yellow. Then, a little later on, Yellow is put back in the spotlight. Eden votes for Yellow, then Ritoky decides to join in by saying he isn't opposed to a lynch. I think he thought that, with other public support against Yellow outside of mafia, he'd be able to bandwagon against Yellow as the first lynch. On April 30 2014 13:15 ritoky wrote: @yellow: Regarding your opinion on mtamburini, it may just be a difference of opinion. But you were highly defensive and highly concerned with appearance. And I think it is very right that you are pressured heavily based on that fact. Regarding what you said about sqrt, I could not agree more with "he did seem to be trying to start conversations when there wasn't one, I just don't think he was doing anything when there was one". And in my mind he just did it again. He said there is nothing going on when you and I were clearly interacting. He just seems to be waiting for everyone else to play the game so that he can pick the winning side. Again, maybe it's a stylistic thing cuz basically nothing he says seems town to me so far, but I just can't find any reason to put him on the good side of the tracks Here is where he attempts to discredit Sqrt. Tamburini has been desperately trying to kill Yellow way too hard. On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote: Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w I mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This sounds like a flimsy excuse to me to lynch someone. Obviously town SHOULD care that they appear townie. You want to try everything possible to stop from getting lynched. Acting town AS A TOWNIE is the best way to accomplish that. He even continues his assault below. On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote: Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. I believe Tamburini was trying to get Bunny back on Yellow's case so that she might rally other people in support against Yellow so that he and his group would be able to vote for Yellow with the majority of Town. On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote: I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too) Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else? When dfs comes into the thread and says something against Sqrt, Tamburini says "I like this fellow" and basically nothing else. Once again, he's working one small step at a time to get support against Sqrt with his team. Then he asks dfs what he thinks about Yellow and/or anyone else. He doesn't just say "Can you give more details on anyone?" He makes sure to include Yellow outside of that 'anyone else' so that dfs would be more likely to respond specifically on Yellow. Then, if dfs thought that Yellow was scum, Tamburini would have even more support to lynch Yellow. ------------------------------ I believe that Eden had some good reads to come up with on Yellow (like that he wasn't actively scumhunting) that led to him arriving to vote at Yellow at his own discretion. I still wouldn't classify Eden as scum, but I do disagree with his vote. tldr: I think Tamburini, Ritoky, and Sweetfrost are all scum for a couple of factors. They all want to get rid of Yellow. They've shown distrust in me and Bunny, whom I would consider the most town player here so far. They have cleared each other at different times (Tamburini as an exception, hasn't cleared Ritoky and Sweetfrost, but has been cleared by them). And, they've all shown support against Sqrt as well, which I assume is to lynch him easier down the road. This is a great post. I have nothing insightful of my own to add to the analysis there. However, out of the three, I think mtamburini is the best lynch here. ritoky and sweetfrost's posts are better in that they talk about many different people, whereas mtamburini seems to be gunning straight for yell0w. Therefore it'll be handier to keep ritoky and sweetfrost around for longer as we can get more information out of them provided they continue their way of posting. ##Vote: mtamburini | ||
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On April 30 2014 15:33 ritoky wrote: @Epishade: Before I really start typing in response, I have a simple question for you. You find a common thread to be that all of us don't like sqrt. What has sqrt done to make you think he is town? | ||
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bunnies scum read on mtamburini pressed yellow town reads: epishade, yellow, amiko mafia reads: eden, mtamburini fence: sqrt, sweet, dfs, meat sweetfrost scum read on yellow scum read on bunnies town read: ritoky scum read on sqrt ritoky scum read on sqrt and epishade clears yellow defends tamburini neutral-town read on bunnies now reads yellow as odd mtamburini straight scum read on yellow agrees with dfs yell0w clears bunnies clears epishade scum read on eden no read on meat, ahswtini, dfs scum read on mamburini and sweetfrost epishade defends yellow but is suspicious scum read on sweetfrost and mtamburini clears amiko and bunny town read on eden neutral read on drav suspicious of meat town read on sqrt | ||
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At the same time, given the setup, it's incredibly dangerous to claim fakeclaim vig, since it's likely that there is a vig, but highly unlikely for there to be two. If he really is the vig, he's screwed himself out of his night kill. On May 01 2014 06:53 mtamburini wrote: Gonna be completely honest, all this reading gives me a headache I dont read this much for school. And to be hoenst I prob wont finish and I will read later again,.Im tired and hungry and Im just gonna claim my role. Im Bird Jesus and Ive got a target to shoot tonight right now but I will finish reading to find more connections to this person and/or more behavior I may have missed from everyone else. I like tunneling its fun and you cant tell a lot about a person when you do so along with everyone else in the game. Im like 85% certain on this person and if I do mis shoot, well I will retract town leader position and stick my tail between my legs and sit in the corner and think about what I have done. This is the post in which he makes his claim. He says he has a headache, is tired and hungry, the entire post sounds like a rushed claim without much thought put into it. It's possible he didn't realise that the power of the vig role meant there was likely only one in the game. The majority of that post is also about how he's gonna shoot someone tonight, forgetting the roleblocker threat. At least the confidence there fits with his day one leadership post. Also, what do we do in the event that there's an 11th hour vig counterclaim, especially if they see that mtamburni is not going to get lynched? In such a case, we would have no choice but to lynch mtamburini and see how he flips. If he IS the SK, unfortunately our real vig is screwed a well. Hopefully we have a jailkeeper who can protect him, though it seems that the roleblocker can block the same person consecutively. | ||
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This leaves me in a difficult spot because I really have no solid scum reads on anyone. | ||
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I just don't like this feeling of accusing people in the beginning based off of some joke claim that he is mafia. Exept for tamburini, i just don't like the fact that imo, with soo little information that he was trying to pocket bunny that hard. Yet never mentioning what he would like to see or happen. This negative-only attitude reads to me as typical scum behaviour. On top of that, he's banned so he's not going to be useful for the next couple of days. Yes, it looks rather suspicious that my only case is against someone that can't defend themselves, but this is honestly the only thing that's standing out to me so far. I don't really follow the other arguments that are being thrown around in this thread. Since he's banned for the vote today, will his vote stay on mtamburini? | ||
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On May 01 2014 19:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: There is also a possibility that vig is nt claiming that way they can shoot tamburini at night without the chance of getting roleblocked, if tamburini's claim is false. That would be the strategy I would use if I wa actual vig, and tamburini was not. This is very true. Trying to think why a Town mtamburini would fakeclaim vig. Obviously first and foremost to save himself. But if he were a blue, he'd be dooming himself anyway. He might do it as a vanilla townie to save himself, but also to attract roleblocks/kills from scum. That's the only feasible scenario imo, and it wouldn't be a big loss to lose him to a vig who would be able to confirm themselves by killing him. | ||
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On May 01 2014 19:44 ahswtini wrote: Ok I'm voting for mysterymeat, his posts so far have essentially been meaningless. A lot of one-liners, spam and dumb hashtags. What sticks out to me is how he always talks about what he doesn't like Yet never mentioning what he would like to see or happen. This negative-only attitude reads to me as typical scum behaviour. On top of that, he's banned so he's not going to be useful for the next couple of days. Yes, it looks rather suspicious that my only case is against someone that can't defend themselves, but this is honestly the only thing that's standing out to me so far. I don't really follow the other arguments that are being thrown around in this thread. Since he's banned for the vote today, will his vote stay on mtamburini? I just want to reiterate my suspicions of MysteryMeat1. Yes he's banned and can't defend himself. Yes he's said that he doesn't have much to say on day one and will be more active after the first night of kills. People seem to be letting his useless posts slide, yet I'm getting fingers pointed at me. I can see the case for sweetfrost, I have nothing of my own to add to that and so I don't want to just jump onto that vote. The votes ARE really dangerously spread out and it would be easy for the Mafia team to stack onto someone innocent to kill them. That said, if we forced their hand to vote in such a way, it could also make it easier to narrow down the list of suspects. | ||
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On May 02 2014 10:32 27ninjabunnies wrote: You are not answering my question. Unless you are vigi, you dont have a gun. So Im magically giving you one. Now, answer my question. Why are you so fixated on fantastical scenarios like people magically having guns? Are you trying to get a list of suspicious townies that would-be vigs would want to shoot, so the scum know who not to target tonight? | ||
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So: either the SK or Mafia got roleblocked, or the jailkeeper pulled off a save. It's possible the SK or Mafia withheld their shot (the wording of the SK role implies he can withhold the shot "Once per night you can release a player from the game."). If a town roleblocker did act last night, I would have asked them to come out to us, but the problem is, the jailkeeper could also have been the one blocking the kill. It's not possible to know which one was responsible and we can't ask both of them to come out. And of course there's the increasingly likely possibility that there is no SK in this game. That all aside, I really believe mtamburini is the vig. If he wasn't, the real vig should have shot him last night. Unless the real vig was roleblocked, but I don't see how Mafia would have access to such knowledge. There's no way any jailkeeper with a clue would have locked up mtamburini last night, so he certainly wasn't protected. Him getting roleblocked was to be expected - he's the only "confirmed" blue in the eyes of the Mafia. Then again there may be no vig in the game, and scum mtamburini lucked out with such a fakeclaim. In which case a big fuck you to the host | ||
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You're putting your vote on me straight away? Ok, good to know where you stand. I'm waiting for day 2 improved posting that mysterymeat promised us, now that he's unbanned. | ||
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Jailkeeper -> bunnies Mafia RB -> mtamburini Town RB -> ??? It's possible that the town roleblocker is bunnies? There are also no hit notifications in this game, which means if the Mafia or SK targeted bunnies, the Jailer wouldn't know about it. This sucks because we really have little information to go by following the events of Night 1. If you were roleblocked, please come out and say it. | ||
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I don't like his plays this game. Flipflopping between myself and Eden on day one, before switching and dropping the hammer on sweetfrost. Now he's back to pushing me for lynch. Scum sqrt knows for certain I'm innocent, and I'm an easy target to push because yes, I'm not very good at posting and making reads. Here's hoping he's the roleblocker and mtamburini gets to shoot tonight. | ||
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mtamburini I assume you got roleblocked again? That means mysterymeat probably got blocked by the town roleblocker. I don't see why ritoky would jail him. Another night and still only one kill, I'm 99% certain there's no serial killer now. Gotta sleep, see you all in the morning. | ||
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On May 06 2014 08:57 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Guys its blowing my mind right now that ritoky is dead. Like it doesn't make any sense. If i was mafia, i would either kill bunny or mtamburini, The reason is that they are both pretty town and mtam at this point is pretty much guarenteed vigi. As a mafi I would like to get rid of a guarenteed town to put the remaining town into more confusion. At this point we have 9 people left and 3-4 mafias. I'm vanilla town which leads me with almost a 50-50 chance of lynching a mafia. I think its interesting that ritoky died he didn't like eden or epishade, i think this is probably a big indicator of why he was killed during the night. Thinking about it any other way doesnt make much sense to me. Also i would like to say that i dont' have a role but got a pm saying that i was roleblocked. in his posts ritoky is also suspicious of ahswtini, so i would like to lynch one of these 3 today. Town circle -Me -bunnies -tam -dfs fenced -dravernor scum -epishade -ahs -eden -yellow Ok so you say that you would shoot bunny or mtamburini because they're pretty town, even though ritoky has been playing just as town. Instead you make some weak case that he was killed because he suspected people who were mafia, which Epishade quite rightly deconstructed. I don't see what you've done for the town circle - since you've been back your posting has hardly been insightful. You've just thrown down a vote for Epishade, but reading through your filter, I can't find any reasons for why you're suspicious of him. I also like how you clear dfs, yet now you're asking for his thoughts as he hasn't posted in a few days. What's up with that? | ||
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On May 06 2014 19:37 mtamburini wrote: So basically I probably saved the game if anything. Dont be hating. If you were jailed by the dude that died that doesnt really confirm your allignement IMO but since I think there are not two jailors (I dont think I wouldve got jailed just roleblocked by town or mafia) and in this instance I am sold on it being mafia, I think this clears meat and yellow for me Wait, why have those events cleared meat for you? I can understand yellow because you were intending to shoot him | ||
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On May 06 2014 20:15 mtamburini wrote: I dont think there are 2 townsided roleblockers. I believe bunines was jailed twice and I was blocked by mafia 2 nights ago and last night meat was blocked by mafia. Therefore meat must be town for mafia to block him in the night. My strongest feeling is there are 4 left based on the last TL game I played. It was a 9 person game with 2 mafia, so 11 means 3 mafia and 13 means 4 mafia FMPOV. Ok I follow you and agree. I've no reason to think that if there was a town roleblocker, they would not have acted on the first night - plenty of suspicious people to block. If you were roleblocked last night, PLEASE tell us. It doesn't put you at any risk and doesn't hurt town at all. Now I'm trying to reason out why meat was roleblocked. If Mafia were trying to kill bunnies, who was almost certainly being protected, they may have blocked meat thinking he was the jailor. But then why not hit bunnies at the same time? It's otherwise a waste of a roleblock. It's possible that they figured bunnies was protected, so they hit ritoky. They blocked meat just in case he was the jailor and decided to protect ritoky at night. Or did they get a cop read off meat? Blocking a parity cop on the second night makes him totally useless. | ||
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On May 07 2014 16:51 dfs wrote: I was refering to day one, when if we'd have lynched tamb (who was being suspected as an sk as well) then we'd have lynched yellow on day 2 (which i believe is mafia) so it would have been a better outcome than what we have now. But it doesn't matter anymore, obviously. Another thing is, how do you know how many mafia there are? What if there is only 3 mafia, no need to just accept a guess on their number as a given. There was no sk (unless he's still just hiding lol), so there might not be 4 mafia. It's another possibility. Which makes more sense, because I still don't believe a random roleblock is a good idea when you have such an nice chance to "confirm" yourself as town by fakecalling it. It's too good of a possibility to ignore. You still think yellow is Mafia? Ok, it's possible that the scum were willing to sacrifice yellow by not roleblocking mtamburini so that mysterymeat could safely fakeclaim getting roleblocked. I'm discarding that line of reasoning though. Every event so far has been designed to put yellow under suspicion and get him shot. First they block mtamburini from shooting him. Then the next day they let him, knowing he is town. This works fine, they don't need to block anyone on the second night because it opens up the way for scum meat to claim he was blocked. If there was no block, our cop must have results by now. We appear to be at MYLO, we need any alignment information right now. I'm just hoping bunnies isn't our cop. On May 07 2014 04:03 MysteryMeat1 wrote: TROLOLOLOL: My coach got temp banned for a week. This is disgusting, trying to use coach meta to defend yourself? If we're really going to use coach meta, then I don't believe prplhz is your coach if you are town. I think it's iamrobik. I'll just leave it at that because I using coach meta is probably against the rules. On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Why? What were you hoping to gain out of this - trying to absorb hits or roleblocks? Mighty noble of you. Idk if you're the mason and have been playing half of this game out of the thread, but I don't buy it. I've suspected you since day one. The posting little but letting everyone know you're keeping up with the thread is completely mafia behaviour. If you were blue, you wouldn't be be seeking to maintain the pretense of keeping up with the thread. You would be avoiding sticking your neck out, but still trying to contribute. Right now, I think mysterymeat1 and dfs are defo scum. | ||
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On May 08 2014 00:13 Yell0w wrote: There isn't a lot of time left and I'm not convinced any of the lynch target right now are mafia, I have this gut feeling that Eden might be mafia so I don't want to listen to him, but also ahs made a pretty solid case against mysterymeat.... But then again they could be a scum team trying to lynch him. But right now I just want to know why tamburini seems to be considered by everyone to be 100% the vigi when he has done nothing to prove that, he didn't shoot or anything, I think it's possible he was never roleblocked too. Here's an scenario that's, I think, possible, he's scum with meat and claim he was roleblocked night 1 then meat claims he was roleblocked night 2 but none of that actually happened, the roleblock night 1 on tamburini was to make it seems like he was the vigi but he couldn't shoot and the one night 2 was because they were concerned meat was suspicious and we might lynch him so that by making it seems like he was roleblocked by mafia, he wouldn't be a suspect, though clearly that didn't work. Today they have been clearing each other pretty hard and tamburini in both mornings acted really weirdly, asking me why I was alive then asking who was roleblocked before saying if he was roleblocked or not is really strange behavior for a supposedly confirmed town. The only flaw I can see with that plan at first look is the vigi claim was really risky if you're not actually the vigi, maybe he just got lucky and there wasn't a vigi this game. Anyways, I didn't analyze this thing fully, just something that randomly popped in my head, why is nobody considering the possibility that he isn't vigi? Why didn't they kill him if he's vigi? Why wouldn't he shoot if he's vigi? As we've deduced that there is no town roleblocker, I think it's very unlikely there's no vig either. If mtamburini isn't the vig, then the real one would have spoken up by now. mtamburini not shooting you last night was ultimately the correct move. He recognised that if there were 4 Mafia, and he shot incorrectly, we would instantly lose. I wouldn't have killed mtamburini immediately either. Just block him. mtamburini doesn't get to prove himself, he claims roleblock which town has to take with a grain of salt, and it just adds to the confusion. Meanwhile, it frees mafia to kill someone else. I'm not discounting the possibility that mtamburini pulled off an incredibly audacious claim in the hopes that there was no other vigi. Even if he did it to try and bait the other vigi out, that wouldn't have worked as the vigi could just have quietly shot him during night 1. It's a possibility, but if it's true then well played to him. We're too far gone at this stage to lynch him imo and there are far better candidates. Would like to see a post from dravenor with her suspicions. I know she's online... | ||
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On May 08 2014 01:49 mtamburini wrote: Am I the only one that sees the logic behind why meat must be town here based on what has been going on at night!!!!!! Can you flesh it out for those of us who can't see the logic? | ||
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For the record, I did not vote silently, I made a rather long post about you, and voted after that. | ||
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On May 08 2014 04:37 Eden1892 wrote: So what if you did? All that does for me is increase my suspicion that we're at LYLO. If you are mafia, you killing a teammate doesn't bring you any closer to defeat; you still only need to force one mislynch. If that's a case against me in the first paragraph, I don't understand it. Sounds like you're saying that because I've been trying to get my scum (or in d1 tambo's case anti-town) reads lynched, I'm mafia. Which doesn't make sense at all. The second paragraph is hella amusing because I was on you before you did anything of note against me d1 and I forgot about you in my initial list of reads from today. If there's one thing that doesn't point to it's "I care about what Yell0w thinks about me." And then in the same post where you vote for me after I call you suspicious, when previously you said it wasn't worth going after me today, you say that I'm suspicious because I'm reacting to you. If anyone's reacting to anyone else here, you're reacting to me. Yell0w is obviously mafia here y'all, I think I've got our scumteam with dravernor/ashwtini/Yell0w. He's clearly alarmed by the fact that I went from not seriously calling attention to any of them on d2 and thus far in d3 to coming out against all three of them, which is informing his change of heart from "Eden is maybe suspicious but not really worth my time" to "die die die die die." Mafia yellow makes no sense, why wouldn't they roleblock mtamburini again to keep yellow alive, instead of throwing it seemingly randomly at meat? If you're going to say yellow is mafia, you should throw mtamburini in there too because although ridiculous, that's the only scenario that makes sense. The fact that you've got two people who I'm sure are town in your list means you're either completely on the wrong track, or you're pushing hard for a mislynch. | ||
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On May 08 2014 04:38 ahswtini wrote: Why are you voting drav now when you were talking about lynching mafia power role dfs? For the record, I did not vote silently, I made a rather long post about you, and voted after that. This post was directed at mysterymeat | ||
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On May 08 2014 05:02 MysteryMeat1 wrote: i explained already ahs, on why i switched my vote to drav.... The way lynch system works is that both drav and I are tied at 3 votes, drav is going to come online vote for me in order to save herself, even though she thinks im town. Then if i switch my vote to drav, i'll still be the one getting lynched. Also ahs, if you believe that both dfs and i are devo scum as you posted earlier, then switch your vote to dfs... Its pretty clear that i'm not going to get lynched. Sorry I didn't notice you'd voted for drav, I just saw you place two town on that list. Again, Mafia were certain that mtamburini was going to shoot yellow tonight. They let it go through because it would have lost us the game immediately if it had actually gone through. If yellow was Mafia, I don't see why his buddies would just let him die. If, as Mafia I wanted to keep scum yellow alive, I would have blocked and killed mtamburini last night. | ||
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On May 08 2014 06:16 MysteryMeat1 wrote: ez question epishade. I think your both scum, but i really want to find the roleblocker. The roleblocker isn't dravernor that much i know for a fact. Right now i'm just choosing between the three of you. THe fact that ahs thinks dfs is definately scum but bandwagoned for drave makes me believe that dfs is scum with power. Then why aren't you voting for him, despite talkin about it in so many posts today? I was only voting for drav because there were no votes for dfs, and I didn't want to get accused of making an outlier vote. | ||
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On May 08 2014 07:02 mtamburini wrote: Lack of effort by me to im disappointed in myself. DIDNT EVEN GET TOO SHOOT MY GUN Game isn't over yet | ||
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On May 08 2014 07:07 Eden1892 wrote: Could be okay with vig hitting ahs but I'm really confident Yell0w is mafia You are so confidently off-track I don't think you can possibly be scum | ||
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On May 08 2014 11:57 Epishade wrote: You're giving us HOMEWORK!?! I'm doing a lot of digging here to figure out the game. My reads haven't always been the best, but I've retracted them whenever I admitted fault. I hope that's a good enough reason not to shoot me. Here are my thoughts on the current situation though. Eden really wants Yellow dead. I've looked up the interactions that Yellow and Drav have had so far and, from what I can tell, they don't look too well like mafia partners. I urge you to look through their filters too and come to your own conclusion. Yellow and Drav both have each other as suspicious, and Yellow also votes for Drav before switching his vote to Eden. I think Yellow made a weak case to not vote for Drav just because he didn't like Eden, and it's being interpreted as him deflecting from his mafia partner. The only reason he didn't vote for Drav is because Eden voted for Drav and Yellow thinks that Eden is scum. I don't think Yellow's suspicion on Eden is particularly warranted, but that's the reason he voted for dfs as I see it. Apart from Yellow, there's Ahs, who I think is a better target. I looked through the filter between Drav and Ahs and came up with some thoughts. Ahs doesn't talk all that much about Drav in his filter. Every mention of Drav is either asking why Meat voted for her (Drav's a girl I guess?), and this: This is the only conversation that ahswtini attempts to initiate with Drav. I would think a mafia mistake is not having enough conversation with your partners, right? Since you know what your team is thinking, you don't really need to converse with each other to figure out their thought process. I think that's what happened here, is that ahswtini was attempting to talk a bit to Drav to add to the conversation between the two to make them seem less mafia-like. Now, if you look at Drav's filter, and search through all the instances she mentions ahswtini, you can see that she's been kind of questioning his actions throughout the game, but still giving him a townread, except for one time where she lists him as scum in her reads for some reason idk. It'd be a pain to go through and quote everything because Drav's posts are very long, so I'm just going to paste everything I can find about ahswtini that Drav mentions (in chronological order): + Show Spoiler + What does everyone think of ahswtini at the moment? I think he made some good points, but I also think he shouldn't have voted Meat because he wasn't around to defend himself or contribute. Sure he hasn't been a great contributer so far, but we need to give him a chance. Why was ahswtini so desperate to have him lynched day 1? I don't see him having anything to hide by voting Meat, that wouldn't make sense, right? -------------- I'm not sure what to think of tamb; ofc this is mostly because of what other people have already suspected of him - this hasn't changed, nor have my views on Epishade. ahswtini and MM1 have been laying it low this game, but I am not entirely convinced they're mafia. They may look suspicious but they haven't done enough to arouse my interest as possible mafia just yet. I think my top scumreads at the moment are Epishade and sqrt. I am on the fence with bunnies (and Yell0w -still) at the moment, her coming out and claiming she has a role all of a sudden and that she was blocked doesn't sound quite right to me. I already expressed suspicion of her in the beginning, withdrew it, and now it is building again. Is it possible she is mafia and shot to kill one of us, but someone roleblocked her? And if there is a sk (who isn't tamb), they were the one who possibly killed Amiko? I don't really know if that can happen in this game. If so, whoever roleblocked bunnies would surely have presented a case against her as to why she is mafia, and surely would have voted to lynch her? Thus far there has not been any substantial case claiming her to be mafia. So I guess by that reasoning, it makes sense that bunnies is town. It also doesn't make sense that a sk would kill Amiko on N1 since he was providing the most information. Unless the sk knew he was onto something and had something to hide? Is it possible that tamb IS infact sk and shot Amiko, then claimed to be gunning for Yell0w? A pretty clever ploy if you ask me. -------------- Don't have much of an opinion on yet, but probably town: ritoky, Meat, dfs, ahswtini -------------- I actually agree. I think Meat is town. I think dfs is town. I think bunnies might be town. I think tamb is town. I think Epishade is scum. I think Eden might be scum. I think ahs might be scum. I think Yell0w might be scum. -------------- ahswtini if you knew how long it took me to write my blogs you would know why it has taken me so long to post after getting home i don't really see what is so mafia about ahs (and myself either infact) - he hasn't been interacting a lot, sure, and he hasn't been putting pressure on anyone, but maybe he is busy too? I dunno, I only suspected him in the first place because a lot of you seemed to be making short cases against him, reading into them. But I'm still not entirely sure. 50:50. -------------- Drav has that reply to Ahs at the end there (second to last post in the spoiler) based on what he was asking her from the above quote. This is their only interaction with each other and in it, Drav reaffirms his townieness. I think Ahs is a better shot than Yellow. Then, idk Meat I guess? Try not to shoot Eden though. Ok now that I'm actually awake, I want to make a post about this. First of all, I didn't find drav suspicious at all during the first two days. Also, I'm friends with her outside of the game, and didn't want to put pressure on her if I wasn't certain of her guilt. I know it's the wrong mindset to have and I'm sorry. On May 08 2014 01:44 ahswtini wrote: Would like to see a post from dravenor with her suspicions. I know she's online... Least you could do is look at this post in context. She hadn't made a post in roughly 20 hours when I asked for her thoughts. At this stage, my list of suspects was rapidly narrowing down, and she was one of them. My play this game has been pretty post-light, and there are a lot of people I haven't had conversations with. I can't speak for why she would make posts that give a town read. But hey, look at it this way, I've been on people's lists all the way through the game. At most points I think it's safe to say I was more likely to be lynched than she was. Now read her posts in the scenario that I got lynched and flipped green. She looks less suspicious now because she never pushed me for lynch, and had been getting town reads off me. She clearly didn't see me as a threat to mafia, so had no need to push me as a suspect. Or she felt bad because we're friends. So please, shoot dfs tonight, or hold your shot. If you shoot me, we lose instantly. Even if I'm a mafia power role, you can't prevent me from using my actions tonight anyway. Cop should check Eden because fuck, I have no idea what he is. dfs and meat are my two top scum atm. | ||
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On May 09 2014 03:19 MysteryMeat1 wrote: 4 hours till im dead Why do you think you're going to die? | ||
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Ok, seeing as we have no vig, I don't think the host would have given mafia 4 players. Right now, I'm certain the last two scum are dfs and meat. Meat realises dfs is indefensible so he busses him along with me. Yellow is still cleared for me, now that mtam has flipped innocent. It means scum were totally expecting him to shoot yellow on night 2. | ||
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However, I'm getting more and more worried about bunnies. Her quality of play has dropped off dramatically since the first day. As a high priority target, I would have expected her to die already. Yes, Mafia probably thought she was being protected, but consider the possibility that she successfully fooled all of us, especially the jailer, into believing she is supertown, so that it wouldn't look weird for her to still be alive after three nights. She has never pushed me that hard either, despite how easy it would be to, and again I think that's because there's simply no need for her to get involved when the town are already on the case. With regards to my voting behaviour yesterday, I think you'll find that I DID initially put my vote on mysterymeat, but he convinced me to unvote in favour of killing drav or dfs. Just because I was arguing for meat and dfs to die doesn't mean I can't be persuaded to vote for someone else. I didn't vote dfs because I would have been the only vote, and I was criticised before for making an "outlier" vote. I called drav out to make a post, and her post didn't reassure me of her alignment at all. I also voted drav to make sure the scum team couldn't make a last minute vote blitz onto meat, on the off chance that he WAS innocent. | ||
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I don't understand your newbie game line either. Are you saying you're not putting your 100% into this game because this is a newbie game? On May 09 2014 10:37 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'm gonna have t take a step back a reassess some things. I'll make a post within the next couple of hours. ! Still waiting for your post. Right now, your play just seems reactionary. I don't know if establishing yourself as the most innocent player in everyone's eyes has given you a sense of complacency. You're never going to get lynched, so if you ARE mafia, then well played. I don't like saying "I told you so". As for why I shouldn't be lynched, I'm trying to post and contribute. It's just so difficult to pin down a scum read on anyone at this point. I suspect dfs, but then Mafia were happy to let mtamburini shoot him or myself. That is, if meat's roleblock claim is to be believed. I can't understand why he would be blocked again. Maybe they saw how much town reacted with suspicion to his first roleblock. But there was also the delay before he came out with his roleblock claim. Was he waiting to see if someone else would claim first, or does he just not check his PMs? This sounds cliched, but if I get lynched, we lose, and I like I said before, I don't like saying "I fucking told you so" | ||
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On May 10 2014 04:29 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Epishade, out of the three of us eden, you, me only one of us is mafia. dfs is guarenteed ahs is pretty confirmed mafia my biggest gut feeling, and i want to side with you more than i want to side with eden now... ugggg im soooo torn How the fuck am I confirmed Mafia? | ||
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Fuck this, I'm unvoting and voting bunnies instead. At this stage it's not even going to matter, because one of dfs or myself is getting lynched, bunnies will never get lynched, my vote on dfs is not going to make a difference. | ||
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On May 11 2014 14:50 Epishade wrote: Same here, but you don't have to tell me. Ok, so I'm going through Tamburini's filter quickly and figuring this out then. Night 1, he said he was going to shoot Yellow. He was likely roleblocked here so that town would organize a mislynch against Yellow. Night 2, he implies that he'll shoot Yellow. Meat and Bunny get roleblocked, but Tamburini doesn't. Night 3, Tamburini asks who he should shoot. I say we should shoot Ahs as the best shot. Then meat after that probably. Eden says to shoot Yellow, but Ahs is also a reasonable shot. Bunny suggests between Ahs, dfs, and Eden. Ahs says to shoot dfs. Yellow suggests Ahs and dfs. Every single person had mentioned Ahs (except for himself obviously). dfs comes second, but Ahs has more against him than dfs at that point. I made a big case against him and Yellow made a smaller case against dfs, but I think Ahs was more likely than anyone to possibly get shot by Tamburini. Tamburini gets roleblocked, and I don't see why they would do that unless it were to protect Ahs. I know I thought I had cleared Ahs before when we lynched dfs, but I think I gotta take that back. I'm thinking Ahs is the next lynch for us. Except after the events of that night I argued hard since mtamburini wasn't roleblocked on the night he died, and he was going to shoot me or dfs, that I wasn't mafia. For that same reason, and also the how unanimous the dfs vote was, I was really scared that he wasn't mafia either. I had no idea he WAS blocked, and meat was lying. That isn't even confirmed, we won't know if mtamburini was really blocked, and we won't know if meat is being truthful or not. | ||
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Ok going to post my own thoughts first before I respond to the case against me. First, yellow is still top town for me. He leads the push to lynch dfs, when there could be an equally strong case made for me. I've been under so much suspicion that Mafia have no reason to bus one of their own so early on in the day. This is followed by Epishade who posts some sound reasoning for his vote against dfs. On May 10 2014 05:44 Epishade wrote: Nobody else do I really consider to be mafia right now other than him. I think Dfs is mafia at this point. Then, if Dfs flips scum, that clears Ahs for me, as well as Yellow and probably Meat too, as those guys have been his biggest scumreads all game so far. He's been in my potential mafia list the whole game too, and nothing has convinced me he's not so far. Here, he clears me as well as Yellow who I'm certain is town, and meat who we now know is town. He's not pushing any of town as suspects. Although Epishade later retracts his clearing of me, that's reasonable if I consider it from his point of view. And now I get to Eden, who has been pushing Yellow the entire game. He shows his concern about lynching dfs, and questions why I'm not being pushed for lynch. Now that dfs has flipped, this looks incredibly scummy. I know I expressed similar doubts and ended up voting for bunnies, but I know I'm innocent. Eden finally begrudgingly votes for dfs, but his reason for it is so weak. On May 11 2014 01:54 Eden1892 wrote: Well, if my options are dfs or bunnies then it's gotta be dfs. I really don't want that to be my options though, I have a horrible feeling about the fact that ahswtini is the only one besides me not on dfs right now. ##VOTE dfs It sounds like his hands were forced. If he believed yellow was so scummy, why not vote for him? It's not like he can't start a new lynch wagon, unless he's scared of looking like an outlier. His vote on dfs was nothing more than a last minute bandwagon on his doomed comrade. Because of this, Eden is the most likely of the one or two remaining scum. ##Vote: Eden1892 | ||
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On May 12 2014 13:46 Epishade wrote: I've looked through Drav's and dfs' filters and just about every time Eden is mentioned, I see that they are either questioning his actions, or placing him in their scumlists. Eden's filter also has him putting Drav and dfs in his scumread pile just about every time he makes a read. Either he's a really independent mafia (I've never heard of mafia that don't directly work with their partners - like free-for-all lol), or he's probably town. I've made a case on Ahs a couple pages back that I'll repost. Basically Drav townreads him for most of the game, with one post that for some reason she places him in his scumpile (maybe she realizes that she's been townreading him all game long and that might look bad for him if she were to get lynched, idk?) I've since looked through dfs' filter since he got lynched. He doesn't say all that much about Ahs, but he kind of has the same writing stance that he takes with Ahs that he does with Drav - not much to say. Here are all the times that dfs mentions Drav. + Show Spoiler + ritoky, dravernor, ashwtini - can't say anything still. Too much other stuff to follow and they didn't really cought my attention yet. ---------------------------------------- dravernor - finally explained his thoughs. Some stuff of what he says makes sense to me, but some stuff look weird. The fact that there is not my of anything else from him to look into doesn't help. Again, there are better targets right now. ---------------------------------------- Yellow doesn't want to "waste" his vote on Eden (and the only suspicion he has on him is his "gut feeling") so he votes a dravernor who has the least interaction to anyone throughout the whole game, which makes him the easiest bw target right now (which is exactly what is happening as i see it). Then after Eden's post he immediately switches his vote back to Eden, because he calls you suspicios again. Suddenly not a waste of a vote anymore. Still, the mafia who's hiding in plain sight is more dangerous, so: ##Vote: MysteryMeat1 Here are all the times that dfs mentions Ahs. + Show Spoiler + I want to look at Epishade and ashwtini, but for now highest on my list are: Yell0w, sqrt and Meat (mafia or sk) in no particular order. I'll explain my thoughts on sqrt, Epishade and ashwtini later. ---------------------------------------- ahswtini - not much to look at with his posts. The only people he talked about were Yell0w ("on the fence", he said he didn't like him being not serious and that's all he said), mtamburini (agreed with Epishade on his 3 mafia theory and pointed mtamburini specificly, but, like most people, changed the read to town after the vigi claim) and Meat (i shared the same concerns with ahswtini here). That's it. Almost nothing. Although his suspicious for Meat D1 i understand, but he voted even though Meat was banned and there were other, better suspects, in my opinion. The lack of reads on anyone else and an "outer" vote looks really bad for him. ---------------------------------------- So, based on that, my list of highest suspects in descending order is: Yell0w, sqrt, ahswtini, Meat and Epishade. Here's my case on Ahs from before when Tamburini asked us who to shoot, after Drav had been lynched. + Show Spoiler + On May 08 2014 10:45 mtamburini wrote: I think shooting tonight to give us a ML tomorrow if I hit correctly might be the best idea. I would like everyone to build a case on why I shouldnt shoot them and 2 people I should shoot. You're giving us HOMEWORK!?! I'm doing a lot of digging here to figure out the game. My reads haven't always been the best, but I've retracted them whenever I admitted fault. I hope that's a good enough reason not to shoot me. Here are my thoughts on the current situation though. Eden really wants Yellow dead. I've looked up the interactions that Yellow and Drav have had so far and, from what I can tell, they don't look too well like mafia partners. I urge you to look through their filters too and come to your own conclusion. Yellow and Drav both have each other as suspicious, and Yellow also votes for Drav before switching his vote to Eden. I think Yellow made a weak case to not vote for Drav just because he didn't like Eden, and it's being interpreted as him deflecting from his mafia partner. The only reason he didn't vote for Drav is because Eden voted for Drav and Yellow thinks that Eden is scum. I don't think Yellow's suspicion on Eden is particularly warranted, but that's the reason he voted for dfs as I see it. Apart from Yellow, there's Ahs, who I think is a better target. I looked through the filter between Drav and Ahs and came up with some thoughts. Ahs doesn't talk all that much about Drav in his filter. Every mention of Drav is either asking why Meat voted for her (Drav's a girl I guess?), and this: On May 08 2014 01:44 ahswtini wrote: Would like to see a post from dravenor with her suspicions. I know she's online... This is the only conversation that ahswtini attempts to initiate with Drav. I would think a mafia mistake is not having enough conversation with your partners, right? Since you know what your team is thinking, you don't really need to converse with each other to figure out their thought process. I think that's what happened here, is that ahswtini was attempting to talk a bit to Drav to add to the conversation between the two to make them seem less mafia-like. Now, if you look at Drav's filter, and search through all the instances she mentions ahswtini, you can see that she's been kind of questioning his actions throughout the game, but still giving him a townread, except for one time where she lists him as scum in her reads for some reason idk. It'd be a pain to go through and quote everything because Drav's posts are very long, so I'm just going to paste everything I can find about ahswtini that Drav mentions (in chronological order): + Show Spoiler + What does everyone think of ahswtini at the moment? I think he made some good points, but I also think he shouldn't have voted Meat because he wasn't around to defend himself or contribute. Sure he hasn't been a great contributer so far, but we need to give him a chance. Why was ahswtini so desperate to have him lynched day 1? I don't see him having anything to hide by voting Meat, that wouldn't make sense, right? -------------- I'm not sure what to think of tamb; ofc this is mostly because of what other people have already suspected of him - this hasn't changed, nor have my views on Epishade. ahswtini and MM1 have been laying it low this game, but I am not entirely convinced they're mafia. They may look suspicious but they haven't done enough to arouse my interest as possible mafia just yet. I think my top scumreads at the moment are Epishade and sqrt. I am on the fence with bunnies (and Yell0w -still) at the moment, her coming out and claiming she has a role all of a sudden and that she was blocked doesn't sound quite right to me. I already expressed suspicion of her in the beginning, withdrew it, and now it is building again. Is it possible she is mafia and shot to kill one of us, but someone roleblocked her? And if there is a sk (who isn't tamb), they were the one who possibly killed Amiko? I don't really know if that can happen in this game. If so, whoever roleblocked bunnies would surely have presented a case against her as to why she is mafia, and surely would have voted to lynch her? Thus far there has not been any substantial case claiming her to be mafia. So I guess by that reasoning, it makes sense that bunnies is town. It also doesn't make sense that a sk would kill Amiko on N1 since he was providing the most information. Unless the sk knew he was onto something and had something to hide? Is it possible that tamb IS infact sk and shot Amiko, then claimed to be gunning for Yell0w? A pretty clever ploy if you ask me. -------------- Don't have much of an opinion on yet, but probably town: ritoky, Meat, dfs, ahswtini -------------- I actually agree. I think Meat is town. I think dfs is town. I think bunnies might be town. I think tamb is town. I think Epishade is scum. I think Eden might be scum. I think ahs might be scum. I think Yell0w might be scum. -------------- ahswtini if you knew how long it took me to write my blogs you would know why it has taken me so long to post after getting home i don't really see what is so mafia about ahs (and myself either infact) - he hasn't been interacting a lot, sure, and he hasn't been putting pressure on anyone, but maybe he is busy too? I dunno, I only suspected him in the first place because a lot of you seemed to be making short cases against him, reading into them. But I'm still not entirely sure. 50:50. -------------- Drav has that reply to Ahs at the end there (second to last post in the spoiler) based on what he was asking her from the above quote. This is their only interaction with each other and in it, Drav reaffirms his townieness. I think Ahs is a better shot than Yellow. Then, idk Meat I guess? Try not to shoot Eden though. Many of the lists that dfs and Drav place Ahs in are the same lists that they place each other in. And, honestly, any one of you guys could be town to me. I feel that I'm making the best guess I can at this point. Out of anybody in here though, really. It was either Ahs, or you Bunny, as you've been consistently townread the entire game and are still alive, and that raises some concerns for me. You have your paranoias about me and Eden, I have mine about you. But I still think Ahs is a better pick over you right now, so he's getting my vote then. Ok I'm sure we can all agree that out of the remaining potential scum (excluding me), drav and dfs were the most suspicious and (dare I say, weak) members of the team. The fact that dfs's allies abandoned him in his lynch vote shows to me that they were the scum who were most likely to die, and therefore should fix their reads and posts in the knowledge that their filters will be scrutinised after their flip. Therefore, if the reasons for lynching me, and clearing Eden are based on what dfs and drav have written, then their set-up has worked. | ||
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On May 13 2014 12:25 27ninjabunnies wrote: But we are in lylo assuming there are 4 mafia in this game, 2 would still be alive. Meaning 1 ml will lead to mafia winning. We HAVE to hit mafia here. Has it ever been confirmed that we have been in LYLO? The only evidence that there are four mafia in total is that "it would fit the setup". I'm not pushing bunnies anymore because the dfs flip has convinced me that Eden is scum here. I gave the reasons for voting Eden. Unlike him, I don't just push the same person (yellow) all the way through, I reassess the evidence after each flip. dfs and drav both townread me, and they both scumread Eden. They were the most likely people to be bussed by their team, and so they set those reads up accordingly. | ||
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Eden has been on the wagon of every lynch, but he has never been the one to start that lynch. Same again today, he throws down his typical vote for Yellow, then jumps on my wagon which Epishade started. | ||
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On May 13 2014 22:05 27ninjabunnies wrote: I think mafia is keeping me alive because of the fact that my activity has dropped. And they can use this against me to get my mislynched. I'm not going to let that happen. So because I am going to be at work when the vote concludes, I think scum is between Ahs and Yell0w. ##Vote:Ahs And so you think it's me, because I'm the one acting on the fact that your activity has dropped? I hope to god there's only one mafia left, because then you guys still have a chance. | ||
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On May 17 2014 07:05 Amiko wrote: Well played all! And yaaaaay town victory! This was a really fun game to watch. /obs chat was an emotional rollercoaster, I think we were all certain mafia won but when Epishade unvoted our hopes flew. And then he unvoted again | ||
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