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On March 30 2014 09:38 Palmar wrote: really good at counting tbh can confirm | ||
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On March 31 2014 11:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Given how Championship just turned out, I'm happy about this game happening. Too chaotic for town to simply steamroll mafia this game (makes for really boring games, even if I end up winning because of it). Too many minis and not enough large game recently imo. mm, agree with all of this. | ||
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On March 31 2014 23:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Tempting, but as it's been a while since my last game, I'll be doing what I want. ![]() | ||
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On April 01 2014 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: Don't worry, You'll be the alignment shifting 3rd party mafia fake traitor tree-stump vote rigger. Sounds like the only correct play is to lynch Palmar immediately. Excellent. | ||
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nuh uh, that's not your character. | ||
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On April 02 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote: Europe wont be leading the lynch. wow. scary stuff. uh oh | ||
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On April 03 2014 05:14 Acrofales wrote: Are you questioning the hosts' supreme authority? That could very well end in... CATASTROPHE ![]() | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote: Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too. Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends. I don't know why I saved this one. Kinda glazed over yamato's posts since. On April 03 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Let him ask for them himself then. Even though I still don't have any cookies/candies...what do people think I am, some sort of confectionery? Because I laughed out loud. On April 03 2014 11:21 Balla24 wrote: Let's just random lynch! Using this website http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/modulo-calculator/ and mod 30 for the # of players. #30 is 0. Terrible. Cmon Balla. On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then. jat has been spending too much time with me On April 03 2014 15:38 Amiko wrote: I'm super sleepy so I will be direct, read the thread earlier tonight and here are my thoughts- -stuff- This was pretty curious. Why read the thread at some earlier point and only wait until you're about to go to bed to actually say anything? Consider my eyebrow raised. That's all I got out of 20 pages. ick. | ||
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On April 03 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote: marv is scum So scum. | ||
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On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote: I fucking hate you Daniel. For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense. I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself I think Greymist could do this. More pertinently, it seems like a fuckton of effort to go through to write everything backwards. It's not something I'd ever see myself doing unnecessarily (as mafia presumably) because fuck that shit. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:21 Holyflare wrote: Your tone is angry. Mafia get angry when they are read as mafia. You are mafia. Case closed. I get much angrier as town when I am read as mafia than as mafia. What now? | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:24 Tehpoofter wrote: @robik do you think paperscraps only does the make the game harder for himself as mafia? I actually think Daniel made up that role and did that himself but I'm not really sure if its alignment indicative. @Palmer does 7th party win with town? @marv if I call you mafia how mad would you get? partly mad or like really really mad? It depends if I thought you were serious, if you meant it, whether you explained it properly so I could tell you how you are wrong, etc. Mostly I will get mad if I am getting called mafia for terrible reasons, and even when I explain why they are terrible, people continue to insist I am mafia. | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:43 syllogism wrote: It takes no effort at all. In fact, if you go here, copy paste his post and choose "flip wording", you get a perfectly normal post with no errors at all, spacing and all. That suggests it was done automatically rather than manually. Did this not occur to you? It is reasonable to believe that Greymist would realize such tools are available and I don't think it's likely he that would make a role with a posting restriction that takes no effort on the part of the person with the role. It also just makes the game more annoying to read and as far as I know, there are no previous Greymist roles with posting restrictions. If you agree, do you think this says something about Paperscraps? I didn't know such Reverse thingies existed. In hindsight it seems obvious enough they would I guess. If it's voluntary, then he could either be mafia making himself intentionally unreadable or just someone trolling around for no particular reason. I don't have any real opinion on which is more likely | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:53 syllogism wrote: I don't recall ever playing a game with him so I'm not sure whether something like that would be out of character for him or not. Before commenting further, I would like to hear paperscrap's own explanation for it, assuming he doesn't stand by his assertion that it is a role based posting restriction. Robik who has played with him (quite a bit?) appears to think that a mafia Paper would do so simply for his own amusement. But I'm kinda loathe to take people's word for things on stuff that I can't verify. So yeah, waiting on Paper sounds just lovely. | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:55 iamperfection wrote: Do you have an opinion on Robik Marv? Sure, he's a light townread, came out the gate quickly making silly little reads that he's prone to making as town, and his self-righteous arrogant anger comes across as genuine, I think. | ||
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On April 03 2014 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: red part: nono. yamato would try to read me as town but he would also "try to read me" as scum. either a lie or a very lazy comment green part: another good one, or rather.. bad one. yamato's read or "read" is not nonsense. my reads are definitely not nonsense because i already said i am srs. so austin are you calling me a liar? or are you making the same lazy "didn't read properly, didn't think for a second and i admit it, but anyways i am taking a stance" opening post you made in last game? blue part: how does me thinking yamato is serious make yamato more town? this makes no sense. best lynch 2014. I noticed this too and found it pretty strange. But I don't see why it's mafia-strange. austin is prone to making really stupid reads based on nothing (sorry my love). And of all the things to give a townread for, that one seems particularly stupid. So stupid in fact that making it as mafia seems far-fetched, because surely it's going to get you flak. So while I can agree that the paragraph is poo-poo, you'll have to tell me exactly why it's red poo-poo. | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:04 strongandbig wrote: Come on bro it's not like you even need to read sandrojism they just don't play if they're scum mind = blown | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: bcz for the one time i have caught mafia!austin red handed and danced on his grave with sebastian i got the same exact feeling from his very first post. Usually i just don't understand him and everything looks the nullest null in the nulland. That's not doing much for me I'm afraid. Ask austin yourself, I shout at him every game for making reads that make no sense. | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:13 iamperfection wrote: Balla might be scum. His random lynch idea is whatever but he didn't take any time to try and convince anyone to do it more talking about fairness and what not. Seems like he just suggested it for appearances. Those Prome -in-LX feels | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote: I hate that Palmar is town this game. Rayn also town Marv prolly scum Anyone who this I'm mafia is braindead. Heading to work now. Will post as much as I can there, but we have "important people" coming in for meetings, so I might not be around as much as I'd like. Ummmm, what else. Oh right. If I'm alive tonight, I'm going to be using my night action on Joey (it's nothing bad). I suggest no one target Joey or myself. It might turn out poorly for you. BYE! <3 fuck the haters Wow, that's what I get for being reasonable with you. Jeez. | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote: TMI = too much info? Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic Aren't you doing the same thing to me? | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote: Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted. The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote: If woe becomes me again, then I may. That was just a frustration post. Pray I do not make another. I think you're town babes. Also ignore Palmar, he's being wilfully disruptive and bad; what that means right now I don't know. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:10 iamperfection wrote: Meh Robik is basically antagonizing every player in the game and basically asking to be lynched. That is not a winning scum strat he is probably town. We aren't lynching him. Have a gold star, Sherlock | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I tried to give him some breathing room but LSB has still given me no reason to keep him around. Can some of the people ignoring my posts look at LSB and tell me with a straight face that we should not lynch him? LSB always looks terrible. Two things to note: 1) his conversation in the TL Power Rank thread about looking scummy on purpose (yes I know it's stupid, but he said it and believed it) 2) he looked like shite in PYP: Fisticuffs because he talked about irrelevant shit + was wrong also, yet he was town. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:11 Holyflare wrote: The fact that you think it's weird that i open in a trollish nature in a game to antagonise a player is weird marv. Why are you so weird? I'm not weird, I'm trying to stamp out your shit because I think you'll listen to me whereas Palmar will not. There's enough trolly crap in this game without needing you (someone actually vaguely capable) to join in also. | ||
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Either he joins in and plays like a big boy at some point, or he doesn't and we dispose of him. It's really easy. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:18 Keirathi wrote: Just a hot tip: calling anyone who ever things you might be scum "fucking awful" and screaming about how you are "obvs 100% town" probably isn't the way to go about that. Just sayin'. I disagree, it's a fine strat. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:21 Keirathi wrote: Oh? How'd it work out for you in LVIII? *Yes, I know you didn't get lynched. But you still ragequit and got modkilled ![]() That was my choice though. And I've done the same thing in many other games to great success. Depending on your definition of "success" that is. The definition I'm using is the one where I can use the word in that context. | ||
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It would be infinitely preferable if you just actually played the game. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:23 iamperfection wrote: But since your here balla anything to say? if your mafia don't post accept your fate of course. NO. I am *so* bored of mafia rolling over. | ||
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I give a shit. It's boring. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote: who is being the most disruptive and making the least sense? i dont think i think it is who you think it is, unless im confused by your grammar Fairly obviously Palmar | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:52 Holyflare wrote: And they aren't insults it's construtive. You keep targeting people in this game to come to no conclusion whatsoever. What's the point of that? do you seriously think Robik is mafia?? | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote: marv who are you looking at lynching today? Or is it too early? I've come to grips with the fact that we're not going to agree on D1 lynches. We arrive at our reads differently and it's whatever, I'll deal with it. But I'd still like to know who you're looking at and why. my lynches are always right though :p i dunno. i don't have any particular suspicions other than the minor stuff i mentioned. I can't judge much in a game this size/chaotic this early on. I've accumulated a bunch of town reads to some degree and that's about it. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote: I can hear VayneAuthority rolling in his grave. that was a default lynch though. Not one I cared to push hard through to completion. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote: Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that. You have my axe. It's precisely the reason I have him marked as light town as well, actually | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote: Well that's funny because Robik didn't even give an explicit reason. rayn said the same, basically. "looks more lighthearted than Foundation" is my own wording. | ||
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I really did. You disagreed, but there's a reason several other people have given essentially the same reason for not liking the case as me; you're making a read based on what you find is your personal experience, but from what other people are seeing and in my much greater personal experience, what you say doesn't necessarily jive with austin-mafia. Also yes Palmar is bullshitting to the extreme, it's a bit dull. | ||
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I'm curious as to what syllogism thinks of his behaviour. | ||
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That conjures up the slightly scary image that Greymist is spying on all of us, for him to know so fast. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:55 syllogism wrote: Based on my recent discussions with him and how he played as mafia in Titanic Mini, I don't think his play so far makes him mafia. You followed along that game so it should be fresh in your mind. What about his play so far makes him mafia? When you say we can deal with him tomorrow, do you mean to imply that he is your strongest read right now? It means I don't particularly know what to think. As far as I can see, he's trying to play along with his persona from the pre-game. The problem is that all of his reads (mafia ones) don't make sense and/or seem wrong to me, and don't fit into what I'd think "neutral good" would mean as a persona. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:03 syllogism wrote: I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you suggesting that he isn't role playing/messing around because it doesn't seem to match his D&D alignment? No, I'm suggesting that he is roleplaying, but I'd expect "neutral-good", which was his alignment-roll pre-game, to lead to better/good reads rather than poor ones. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:05 Palmar wrote: Marv doesn't understand character depth. I am not evil, I am active. But I have added other qualities to myself. A bit like windows update. Why don't you make like XP? :D | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote: Oh shit. I totally misread it. Holy fuck. I think what I said still holds true, but yea...not sure why he would go back and edit that What are you talking about? | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv why did you do a weird catch up post instead of normal marv ketchup? There wasn't very much interesting to comment on. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: How did you know it before finishing reading? Premonition. | ||
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On April 04 2014 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am quite sure marvellosity is mafia. Can't explain properly. This only goes to prove you are not worthy of my level, padawan. | ||
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On April 04 2014 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: because my case makes perfect sense. my case made perfect sense last time too. he says stuff without thinking. not thinking in his way, not thinking in any way. "austin thinks weirdly" is not a defense because he didn't think. Fine, but I've played with austin many more times than you have, and in my opinion the case does not hold water. And multiple people agreed with me on that also. That does not make it weird or bad that I do not agree about austin's post being scummy. you just think you're right and therefore you think I am wrong, and you think I am scummy for being wrong. It's just a terrible failure of logic on your part. What did you say in Heavyweight champs? "the thrawn case is 100x better than the palmar case". Except no, it wasn't, and I didn't go for the thrawn case, I went for Palmar instead. I had a different opinion, just like I had a different opinion this time. That's it. | ||
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On April 04 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay marv. Best defense = find mafia. ![]() As usual i will progress at my own pace, and I don't particularly feel the need to perform. The game is pretty unenjoyable for me right now because Palmar is trolling about and 90% of the rest of the thread is other people playing along with the trolling, and it's just pointless. For me if you're going to muck around in a game you should find mafia at the same time, but at the moment none of that is happening and it's extremely dull. | ||
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On April 04 2014 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you respect my opinion and i know it. In last game i insta-thought austin was mafia. For the exact same thing!!! You have told me you have a hard time reading austin. I would think you give at least some credit to me and not throw the case in thrash straight up. I didn't throw it in the trash, I had already thought about austin's post when I'd read it, and I'd decided it wasn't particularly alignment indicative, and nothing you said changed that. | ||
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On April 04 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote: The players in this game are Aladdin characters. Who is the carpet and why? Who is the genie, except that instead of being summoned from a lamp, the genie in this case has to be summoned from Europe? Who gets to be Princess Jasmine? Right now, you are the carpet because you are whisking me away from the banality of the thread into a whole new world. Koshi is the genie, except that is a futuristic prediction, because I expect him to come from nothing and poop goodness all over the thread. Palmar is Princess Jasmine, because he has so many suitors bafflingly vying for his attention | ||
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On April 04 2014 04:08 austinmcc wrote: Is the Jasmine read because "ick, girls" or "ick, brown girls"? You don't think suitors should have been vying for Jasmine? If HF is a magical rules-changing fairy, what's ruleset do you think is the most town-favored to be imported (maybe partially) into this game? She just had money, boring. Although I guess she turned out ok. *crosses fingers* ![]() Too difficult a question for me. | ||
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On April 04 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote: Marv, do you think I'm town? Srs question. Probably, although not because you've been particularly useful, rather some of your posts have a more lighthearted tone than you manage to pull off as mafia. Like the fightin' one with Robik for example. | ||
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On April 04 2014 04:15 austinmcc wrote: If the game is banal, and you are the walking repository of past games, just like...name a thing or two? Agreed on bureaucracy maybe being bad for scum? Do you remember any other games where scum had an advantage/disadvantage to balance, but the advantage wouldn't carry over well? We did not watch the same Aladdin either. Dem hips. I admit, I am a terrible heterosexual. Bureaucracy was only because town shouldn't have been given mafia-communication interfering mechanics and were given too many blues, not that the idea itself was mafia-favoured. PYP games should be good for town although I'm not sure how that would ever be implemented. Cell Mini Mafia which is ongoing has some townfavoured mechanics in it in that you're guaranteed mafia within a small group. | ||
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On April 04 2014 05:20 Koshi wrote: I would vote for you Blazinghand but I don't want to make marv comfortable. I am extremely comfortable. | ||
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On April 04 2014 07:00 Blazinghand wrote: ##vote paperscraps Tempting. | ||
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On April 04 2014 07:00 Paperscraps wrote: .today for lynch great a like seems (Blazinghand)Balla24 .now right cozy and nice seem pockets s'Palmar .day first this vote a sheeping up end just probably will I .on early him reading town nobody and him on pressure the to reacted he how with now more VisceraEyes like of kind I .bleed eyes my making are posts liner-one the All !Batman spam Holy All the one-liner posts are making his eyes bleed -> I shall sheep Palmar, the one-line spamming king. Interesting. | ||
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The manner matters, though. | ||
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##vote: paperscraps | ||
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On April 04 2014 07:17 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd just like to say I'm fucking psychic. ##Vote: Blazinghand Sorry dude, recent trends don't lie. Especially considering Balla's likely play and/or reaction to rolling scum. (Not to say he didn't have a legit reason to out, but it makes it more likely he'd give up and replace out rather than attempt to stick it out 'till the end like I would 'cause I love playing scum) Already mostly caught up, be back after bath/bedtime. Just to be clear, you're willing to lynch someone because recently mafia have replaced out of other games? | ||
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On April 04 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote: I know, and this sounds weird but you agreeing with me actually makes me suspicious of you. Like, you're definitely smart enough to know I'm town, but you're also the kind of guy who likes to lynch me entirely for fun even when we're both town and you know it. Ain't that crazy That's to be expected, and tbh you'd say the same thing as mafia anyway. So *shrug* | ||
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On April 04 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: ##vote: marvellosity Atm he is building himself a filter without content and I know that is something he doesn't want to do as town because he wants to be able to play scum and he feels if he build filters that are too big as town all the time he wont be able to play scum because he can't have big filters as scum. so why is he building a big filter for the sake of building a big filter? sleep tiems. this post gave me cancer | ||
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marv cannot have big filters as mafia therefore, because marv has a big filter, he is mafia Mind=blown | ||
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How do you feel about that? | ||
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On April 04 2014 08:57 sandroba wrote: I'm still catching up, but I want to comment on something. I'm on page 46 and at this point it became pretty clear to me that the robik fella is frustrated as hell and very likely town, yet Palmar and HF are really pounding on him and not comming around despite the evidence being there. What gives palmar? yes, they're both terrible. | ||
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On April 04 2014 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: have not read hi,m. i think might wanna sleep so i am not more angry. Please sleep, or you can chat with me. Don't go off shouting at other people though. | ||
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cliff notes: Koshi's vote reasoning on me is terrible Koshi hasn't done anything else Except the other thing he has done was to agree on Dandel about Oats, and I don't think town-Koshi should do that. | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:07 Keirathi wrote: Oh yea, how come no one talked about Foolishness slipping in that "Balla is town" thing? ![]() I didn't really know what to say about it. My stab is that he just thinks Balla is town for what he did for some reason, and I think he's capable of thinking/writing so as either alignment. I also empathised with some things that Foolishness said about the state of the game, which overall made me quite sympathetic to the whole post. | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:14 sandroba wrote: @marv Why do you conclude he is bad as opposed to scum? I noticed a thrend that you refuse to stand up against him even though you admit he is purposely disruptive and might be scum. Any particular reason? @palmar I only know the really old ones and they all suck. Now that I entretained you can you answer me and can you tell me why you are doing w/e you think are doing? Because I don't know his alignment. He could be scum. I just don't know. Palmar is my bunny, so I'm not afraid of him. I'm just not gonna declare on his alignment when I dunno what it is. What is there to say to him? | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote: I only feel that way because as soon as I posted it apparently people were already off that idea. Are you so sure my reasoning is wrong? I may yet decide to actively push it but the day is young. Perhaps it may have some validity in that towns are doing better recently, but historical stats over 5 years or however long it is show that townies are just as likely to replace out as mafia (if not more so slightly i believe? not checked). So pinch of salt. I'd prefer it if you thought your reasoning was strong enough without resorting to replacement wifom. | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote: I grow weary of Palmar. I'm kinda sad all the fun early game stuff has ended. Marv can I talk to you about rayn actually? I was getting way stronger townvibes from him than you throughout, and considering the two of you have been inexorably intertwined lately and he had you as scum (at least before he went on a drunk rampage?) as boring as the recent minis have been, it makes me simply want to blindly listen to him. Any reason I shouldn't? That's a silly question Wave. You're just saying "tell me why you're town" which is silly. rayn does not read me flawlessly like I read him, though. | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:44 WaveofShadow wrote: If I am to believe his and DPs analysis of Shadow game, then I believe he does as of late. Has there been a game since where you were scum? And has there been a game since that you two played together where you did not read each others' alignments accurately? he called me mafia in default suspicions, afked through the lynch and then realised i was being a god as usual when toad flipped mafia | ||
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Pretty sure I've called everything I've commented on pretty much correctly. | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:51 sandroba wrote: Not doing anything usefull. Being a presence yet not doing shit to lynch mafia. I.E jumping on this retarded paperscraps wagon. Tell me why it's retarded then. I've done plenty useful things, defending Robik when the thread was retardedly on his ass was pretty useful. Maybe work with me rather than just saying random shit. Because yes, you are quite likely to be town. Maybe even very likely. I haven't caught a bunch of mafia in 24h, but then again, neither have you. | ||
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On April 04 2014 09:55 sandroba wrote: I'm supposed to be, but I can't tell either way so far. I'll see if he does something useful tomorrow besides coaching people on anger management, if he doesn't there is reason to be worried. I get it that palmar wants to spam the thread and I'm not sure if he is mafia for it yet, but holy enabling him feels out of character from the little I've seen from him. Marv just seems flat out useless so far. Funny that I'm the only one who already brought up this point, eh sandroba? | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:02 sandroba wrote: Alright I'm willing to roll with that. Paperscraps is likely non mafia because doing random shit like typing backwards is not a mafia tell and he voluntarily disclosed information about him and VE being somehow connect and still being suspicious of VE which is a town tell. Also his filter is one page, let the dude play some more freely before we wagon up on him and he becomes all defensive and now you can't tell shit about his alignment. There are probably better people to focus who have a larger filter but I haven't started filter diving yet. Do you have any ideas on who to start with? All my main suspicions are out in the thread, and they're mostly not the active players. Actually I think syllogism looks ok, I'm not sure why he'd come after me at all if he were mafia. I remember him being more passive than that when you hydrad with him in whatever game it was. Feel free to look into Holy, as I am in full agreement with you as already mentioned about facilitating Palmar. You could look into what I said about Koshi, especially his reasoning on me and his bad +1 of Dandel's read on Oats. Other than that? I dunno. | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:04 sandroba wrote: Alright man, let's just do some work then. Sorry if I misrepresented you but I'm just not seeing the town flame in you yet. It's because I look really emotionally uninvested, which I currently am. I won't bore you with the details. for reference: On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote: The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy. On April 03 2014 23:13 marvellosity wrote: I'm not weird, I'm trying to stamp out your shit because I think you'll listen to me whereas Palmar will not. There's enough trolly crap in this game without needing you (someone actually vaguely capable) to join in also. | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:05 kitaman27 wrote: ##unvote ##vote Dandel Ion Did I miss where kita explained this? | ||
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Also just looking at Holy, I totally forgot he was passively calling me mafia. Would lynch 100% for that alone. | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Can I ask why re: Dandel? Want to see if your reasoning meshes with mine at all. I'm liking this thing you and sandroba have going (and I have him as town at the very least) so I won't attempt to interfere beyond this. He's simply way more active than he normally is as mafia. And active in a way where he is actually commenting on reads. He actually seemed to believe his Oats stuff. He quizzed jat on not looking townie, argued with me genuinely about Paperscraps, seems to think Djo was scummier than the dudes I mentioned at the time, again no real point in actually talking about reads if he is mafia. | ||
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I like to go to bed feeling good about town-kita (because that happens every game we play, it really does). Hmm this isn't convincing. Please just explain? | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:18 Keirathi wrote: Rofl how the fuck am I supposed to answer that without knowing what the item is, you goob? For relevance sake, the only time I've ever gotten an item, I cleared a very bad looking mislynch candidate, correctly identified who gave me the item and cleared him, and led town to victory. *Note: last part may be a bit of a stretch. We did win, and I was a big part of it, but I wouldn't actually say I carried or anything. I was going to call you confirmed town for exaggerating your own importance until you included the disclaimer ![]() | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:21 iamperfection wrote: Marv do you think bh is town? And if so why in the hell? Possibly. Don't really know. Don't understand the 2nd question. | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:24 iamperfection wrote: Well I thought the slot was scum with balla and then bh entered unimpressively in my view and you go all willy nilly with him. Confuses me. Because I thought paper's post was legit-weak. And I explained why. And BH happened to vote him also. There isn't anything more to it than that. | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote: That's not what I mean. I mean often, considering you're better than me at this game and whatnot (/egostroke), you come up with differing (and often better) reasons why someone is of a certain alignment than I do, or come up with something that opens my eyes. A revelation if you will. Haven't gotten much of that from you this game, that's all. It just means your reasoning for Dandel's towniness isn't alignment indicative to me in your case. Right, ok. It shouldn't be, no. | ||
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On April 04 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote: I just randomly thought about it. Who were those people? You don't think it's relevant if people attacked you for your obvious whatever-it-was post? You know very well that doesn't sound like something I'd hate. In fact, now I think I'd like a sample. How about 'weirdo,' and 'bathtub?' weirdo is down next to yamato. it is his only comment. bathtub for amiko's "i was reading the thread in the bath" defence to my accusation of posting later after reading the thread. on that note, to sleep! | ||
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On April 04 2014 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote: So I read iamp's filter. Not so sure he's town anymore and would lynch with Foolishness pending reading Holyflare's filter. I'm sheeping today boys, show me ur cases. no, there is 0% chance we lynch iamperfection today. | ||
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On April 04 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote: Holyflare bro. I can kill the marv. But in the most antitown way possible. if you do this, you are directly claiming mafia. | ||
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On April 04 2014 17:43 Holyflare wrote: marv is sheeping sandro on a me lynch, someone he didn't want to lynch straight away in the past few games, someone who can obviously be read as town if i post more because what? i was trolling around with palmar? i've openly trolled the start of almost all of the past few games and marv knows that but only in this game has marv even bothered to comment about it and used it against me! he neglects to read anything else i've said too and only brings me up again when someone shows interest in my lynch The very simple fact is that it feels totally different, hence why I brought it up more than once. That's on you, not me. | ||
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And I did continue later asking why you were still pushing the Robik thing. Normally I don't ask or say any of this stuff to you because you don't seem wilfully bad like here, even if you say you're normally trolly. 'snot the same. | ||
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On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote: If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played. I blame you for this. Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is. I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one. | ||
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Palmar-rayn-Koshi-Holyflare are in that category rayn is excused for being town. That leaves me 3 to play with. | ||
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On April 04 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote: everyone: "marv is really different this game" marv: "i'm not emotionally invested so that's why" marv: "but you totes shoulda known that so people who called me scum are scummy" that's not why koshi called me mafia. koshi called me mafia because i have a big filter and i cannot have a big filter as mafia therefore i am mafia. | ||
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On April 04 2014 18:30 Koshi wrote: Do you remember that time you told me if I was scum and people were on to me and I said wtf do I do now and you told me: "Koshi just tell them they are being silly and ignore them". Are you doing that now marv? Because you are not talking to me. You are just putting me aside. Anyway. I have reached out to me. I am going to rip you unless something happens within 3 hours. Please do it now. On your head be it - I will never listen to you in any game ever again if I just happen to flip town. You have been warned. | ||
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On April 04 2014 18:31 Holyflare wrote: yes but i did not and i only called you mafia at the start because you were different so picking me over koshi was super weird It isn't weird at all, and you're both scummy, and what sandroba said was correct, and I've already explained this morning how i obviously felt your posting was worse than usual as i brought it up a couple of times yesterday already. pls read. | ||
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Which is sadly the situation I find myself in. Because practically everything I've said has either been good or correct, and if not, at least understandable. | ||
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On April 04 2014 18:33 Koshi wrote: Oki. I will do it. Still 3 hours from now though. But it has been decided. No, do it now. | ||
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On April 04 2014 17:28 syllogism wrote: This looks strange given that Oats is/was one of your strongest town reads. What were you hoping to gain from asking this question? Robik: As I understand it, you are a bit more familiar with tehpoofter's play. He understandably was fixated on you early on, but hasn't really been doing anything since then besides asking, from my perspective, unfocused questions. On the other hand, he seems carefree; what do you think? If this is true, which I've not checked, this is a pretty legit question. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:21 Djodref wrote: Yeah but I skimmed really quickly first. I would like to read it again in detail after a while. Do you have any recommendation of things I should pay attention to ? A few remarks I can make at the moment Robik is really catching a lot of attention with his play, I don't see how it could be beneficial for scum to play in such a confrontational way, especially in a 30 players like this. I'm saying this because If I was scum here, I would just try to lay low. With this same approach in mind, I don't think Balla is scum as well with his attempt to random lynch paper scrap. Such moves are sure to bring some attention. I don't take Palmar seriously at the moment, so he has done nothing alignment indicative for me yet. I also give you townie points because you advice Robik to change his play so we can have a better town atmosphere. That's all I have on the top of my mind ![]() Would this accurately describe you so far Djodref? | ||
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We've been through this, there's little point asking me the same question over and over. Re: Paperscraps: Do you agree/disagree with this? On April 04 2014 10:02 sandroba wrote: Alright I'm willing to roll with that. Paperscraps is likely non mafia because doing random shit like typing backwards is not a mafia tell and he voluntarily disclosed information about him and VE being somehow connect and still being suspicious of VE which is a town tell. Also his filter is one page, let the dude play some more freely before we wagon up on him and he becomes all defensive and now you can't tell shit about his alignment. There are probably better people to focus who have a larger filter but I haven't started filter diving yet. Do you have any ideas on who to start with? Also I'd like Robik + whoever else knows Paperscraps to talk about him a little; both sandroba and syllogism indicated that Paper roleplaying this stuff (or continuing to do so) is unnecessary as mafia, but Robik said it's the kinda shizzle maf-Paperscaps would do. Obviously this is fairly major sticking point. | ||
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On April 04 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote: va and ve so annoying to read together ~_~ If you call VE "the sexy bearded one" it will be easier to distinguish. I actually agree that the sexy bearded one's vote on VA is a little weak - he's going to need to get 16 votes if he really passionately believes in that case. But the sexy bearded one seemed so cheerful at the start of the game :x | ||
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On April 04 2014 19:15 Holyflare wrote: also ve makes this read: iamp and jat are way way low down on my reads at that point in time and sandroba had only posted a few times so this list is pretty weird Actually I liked this post. jat was the only questionable one to me at the time and still I could maybe understand. | ||
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I don't see why a town VE cannot make those posts? Can you really tell me otherwise? | ||
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On April 04 2014 19:26 Holyflare wrote: because i don't think ve would have a scum read on a person for not posting any game relevant content and then drop it because that person continues doing no game relevant content straight away 1 post after he scum read him. Seems more likely he just decided to drop it, why even bother dropping it like that as mafia? | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote: @those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS? I'm flitting back to this again, as per syllogism's earlier question and my mention of it above. He calls Wave town also, because he finds it unlikely that he'd do the item thing as mafia. So why is poofy asking questions about his townreads? To what end? | ||
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On April 04 2014 19:31 Dandel Ion wrote: I could make a QT for myself and talk to myself it would make me feel like a cool kid too. I was actually invited to the QT last night. And now whoever invited me decided not to talk. Terribly poor form. | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:00 marvellosity wrote: Do you think you're going to rally a majority on to Robik? Further to this, Poofter, you claim Robik is uninterested in the thread And yet you have outstanding questions directed to you from other people in the thread that you've seemingly missed yourself. | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:01 Holyflare wrote: what game did robik just play scum in? newbie whatever-number-it-is | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Va is not posting in the thread, it has nothing to do with readin the thread. Why is he only posting in the qt about reada ans such? Your defence is completely wrong holyflare. Why does scumVA do this and townVA cannot? | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:11 Tehpoofter wrote: I think that he is around and able to be interested but is not putting effort into the game. I read that as scummy. I am not going to leave out information even if I can't get a majority on my preferred lynch I want my case out there so it can be seen. I would never know if I could get a majority to rally behind it if I don't present it. Why would it be bad for me to bring up a case on anyone at this point that I find scummy? I'm showing there is a max 4 votes on anyone atm so looks like we don't have anything remotely close to a majority atm. So I am going to say that YEs I most definitely could get a majority on scumRobik. The stuff you missed was asking why you were repeatedly questioning people about your townreads | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:12 Palmar wrote: cryptic message: For me only two remain: Cor 13:13 Which have you lost? | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:14 Koshi wrote: Can we talk radiation? I think button pressing will do radiation up. Bad for town? I think so. That will definitely help us get a majority on a mafia, thanks koshi | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:16 Palmar wrote: I like how poofter has me as town for an associative read on robik. wonderful isn't it | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscraps which was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote: ##Vote: justanothertownie JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum. Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today. Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on. hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked. I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post. On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote: @exarezee If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat. I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game. You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though. There's actual insight and thought here. This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers. | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:31 Tehpoofter wrote: @Palmer... a post like that where you have basically everyone listed... I would expect that type of post from Robik by now but he would have maybe 15 names tops on his list instead of the whole town. You played Titanic with me Palmer what makes me scum this game as opposed to this game? What gave you that scum read? @marv were there any other questions I missed? I think there was one from amiko I needed to look at but I closed the tab with the quote I had saved. Robik is pretty likely to be town. Lynch Paper with me instead, it's more fun. | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Year old meta marv? For shame. Also Tehpoofter i thought it was pretty clear I didn't add you to he list because I didn't trust you, but I suppose that May not matter now either way. Could work out in everyone's best interests. When not phoneposting you will be added. A player does not suddenly lose all ability to be insightful and make thoughtful posts just because some time has passed. Don't be so blind. | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:41 Tehpoofter wrote: @marv not sure I trust you tbh. I read robik as mafia and you were defending him pretty hard during the battle that was going on. Are you the type of player that would hard defend a scummate like that? more importantly do other people think that Marv and Robik are likely to be connected as scummates, I know nothing of marv's play so outside input is encouraged. (even if you disagree with me that robik is scum would marv d-up hard day with a teammate?) I've never hard-defended a team-mate (anyone who knows me will verify) and Robik is not mafia. | ||
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On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote: .early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I .unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes .do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In On April 04 2014 10:46 Paperscraps wrote: .accurate too not probably so ,baseline a as meta mafia video using is This .neutral are far so posts his ,Tehpoofter reading scum anyone for Also .moment the at reprieve a warrant to Enough .genuine somewhat seemed me against attack his but ,forum a on "heated" or "mad" being fake to easier is it know I .now for BlazingHand off back all can We .him by posts more to forward Looking .game this individual headed level ,smart a like seems Sandroba gg | ||
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If your posting was somehow scummy in the interim, that still doesn't make you neutral, that makes you both good and bad. It's weak bullshittery. Notice how he cheapens his read in the 2nd quote by relating it to video mafia and saying the neutral read on you is weak. It's like he totally forgot he gave you a good townread beforehand. Probably because he's just making stuff up. | ||
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On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote: whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. If you disagree with the points I've put forwards, say why. Don't just go "bleh", that helps no-one and nothing. | ||
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On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote: HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why. | ||
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VA in shit-tonne of his games never does anything townie as town. In fact he's known as being more "townie" and reasonable as mafia. You know this. Claiming, unnecessarily, an anti-town role is actually somewhat townie. But no, apart from that he hasn't done anything townie. Sadly this does not make him mafia. You know this too. | ||
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On April 04 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote: Well I am not doing anything special today. you're right, you really aren't. | ||
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On April 04 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote: What, that its townie rather than absolutely fucking claiming scum? Duuuude.. No. Why is it claiming scum? Explain to me very simply. | ||
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On April 04 2014 21:58 syllogism wrote: It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"? Without spending my time looking at a lot of austin filters, no. I've just played a lot of games with him and for quite a long time it became a tradition that I would be suspicious of him on D1 for not doing anything. I guess Rockband springs to mind? And although austin is a pretty experienced player, he still got lynched as town on Day 2 of PyP:LoL with only a 4 page filter. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote: I will not vote townbuddy scrapspaper your services are no longer required. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:08 Palmar wrote: why would mafia write backwards? explain me this. Firstly, all the players who know Paperscraps have said it's the sort of thing he would do as either alignment. Secondly, On April 04 2014 21:31 marvellosity wrote: btw the fact it was so hard to find that inconsistency goes to show how mafia-favoured his writing-backwards thing actually is. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:19 Holyflare wrote: so... that's how scum love to get away with appearing town by fitting in and contributing by giving their "reads" on people but never pushing anything in the fear of looking bad on a town flip or if they are wrong Read any Dandel mafia game and then just shut up. | ||
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On April 03 2014 13:28 Killing wrote: I'm going to sleep. See you tommorow boys. You didn't appear all day the next day, and you seemed shit-scared to post as mafia in Foundation. Me and others gave you a townread for having a different tone than in that game, but running away from the thread erodes that. Plz play. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote: Anti-town role = scum role. 3p = scum in this argument. No, roles can be anti-town and the player in question has a town alignment. Kurumi committed seppuku in some game because he believed his role was anti-town, he claimed so, and he was town. Role != alignment, esp. in super funky themed games. Much easier if he is actually mafia to simply not claim that he has an anti-town role. There's nothing else to say on this discussion. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote: sheeping sandroba > sheeping marv actually in games sand & I have been town together, my day 1 reads have been superior | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote: I like Marv's case because Marv is town and he is a pretty smart dude. I will sheep him. When did you decide this? | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote: Your good as scum Marv but you ain't that good. You're right. | ||
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A lot of his early tone and attitude read quite townie to me. But he picks on two easy targets in Dandel and LSB. Easy, obvious targets to jump on. Meanwhile he asks someone why they are suspicious of rayn, when normally gumshoe is v suspicious of rayn. There is none of gumshoe's usual paranoia about prolific, influential players. And the 2nd half of his filter is all a funky self-defence. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:37 iamperfection wrote: I felt he was pretty open last night after I called him out. I don't see anything he couldn't post as mafia. Also I just read the freakiest thing that i hadn't noticed before. | ||
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Nothing alignment indicative, but On April 04 2014 13:50 gumshoe wrote: Sure, I dont mind shedding some light, cats out of the bag anyways. I came in and proposed we not use our names(we were warned scum might be part of our group, was worried about a snipe cause I assumed we were all power roles together, I understand there are a lot of powers this game but saw no reason not to play it safe), so we called ourselves our titles, conquest war death and famine. Vayne came in and called himself death, enter Ve who is the actual death, Vayne admits he was trolling and Ve says he has no issue with that. He does question why Vayne is lurking in thread though. Thats it for the qt, so was wondering how Ve came to the conclusion that Vayne is scum when very little has happened between them since Ve's question (which vayne did not answer) One other thing, Vayne called me out as gumshoe right away, was not sure how I felt about that given he was told scum might be in our qt and he knew we were all likely blues / : We all ended up claiming our names after that, theres one more horse men but Im not going to out him, he can make that choice himself, he wasnt really part of the convo anyways. I can see how Vayne might be scum, he hasnt done much at all for town and his actions in qt were iffy. Was just curios what Ve had on him. The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. Anyways in my QT, I am still alone, and because I got bored, I started writing a little story to myself. And one of the horsemen of the apocalypse in there. I'm kinda weirded out. Chapter 2 the wind rushes through my hair as I flee this god-forsaken place. The fires of hell burn around me; the pillars of civilization are crashing down this land, that was once so bountiful, sits ablaze in righteous anger, the beautiful fields turned to dust behind me, the dark horseman of war straddles his fiery steed, eyes dark and red with malicious anger. What will become of me? The world is sundered; where shall I go now? | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:41 Dandel Ion wrote: This is a straight up lie/misinterpretation because he's talking about my first post, which funnily enough was the only one that wasn't supposed to accomplish that! Still softpushes me for it. calls people out for not scumhunting doesn't scumhunt himself buddies austin his whole laziness "defense" was a bunch of horseshit, follows up with horseshit about how him lurking makes him town or w/e he was trying to do there. He puts a lot of effort into establishing himself as lazy and useless (half his posts are purely about that), which means he's hyper defensive, and it also shows that he's not too lazy to defend himself, just to do other things. The alignment that is most likely to just defend themselves and not do anything else is _ I'm pretty sure there was something else i noticed yesterday but i cant find it right now :/ I'll post it when/if i remember Yes, this is fine, basically what I dragged out too. Hmm. Anyone else have any thoughts on this dude? | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:44 iamperfection wrote: Do you have any indication that you could add people to your qt Marv' I would totally like to join. I certainly cannot. The QT owner may be able to, but as he hasn't posted, then I am in the dark. | ||
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On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote: Liar. Hogwarts was even worse. I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps. So how do you view Holyflare? | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Well people is plural, you have to have at least 1 more. Why arent you willing to commit to a read on Foolishness Iamp? He called you scum man, you really dont know whether hes town or scum? Do you know whether he is town or scum? Assuming iamp is town, how does Foolishness accusing iamp mean that iamp magically knows Foolish's alignment? | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:01 justanothertownie wrote: No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless. Holyflare may or may not remain sandro's preferred lynch, so I suggest you try to find an idea. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote: Well generally when someone calls you scum you try and find out his alignment more than other people who dont mention you at all. Its a psychology thing. How do you find out someone's alignment who hardly ever posts and isn't in the thread at the same time as you? What do you expect iamp to do exactly? | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:08 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, are you still townreading Killing? People said he was town because of his activity and carefree nature in contrast to his scumplay in foundation where he was to scared to post. Well... My filter really is amazing On April 04 2014 22:23 marvellosity wrote: You didn't appear all day the next day, and you seemed shit-scared to post as mafia in Foundation. Me and others gave you a townread for having a different tone than in that game, but running away from the thread erodes that. Plz play. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote: I expect Iamp to science. He won the quiz where we had to guess alignments off a single post, why not the same here? Foolishness has 2 posts, man even double. So you want him to guess. Wonderful. Foolishness may have to be dealt with with roles. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote: But your filters tend to be ugly and annoying to read. ahahaha | ||
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rayn/Dandel/syllogism/iamp/IAmRobik/sandroba/jat* *jat purely because he made me lol re: holy's filter, not because i find him particularly townie. syllogism doesn't look amazingly townie but i don't think he's as useless as people are suggesting and there's no way i take that risk on day 1 based on what i've seen. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:29 kitaman27 wrote: Why not? Does his suggestion that balla was trying to look good not seem terrible to you? A little but at the same time I understand it. I don't know how to explain. I said at the time "like Prome in LX", because he did similar - proposing RNG, not really doing anything about it, flipped scum. At the same time iamp finds it v hard as mafia to have the consistent flippancy that he's had this game. He's much meeker as mafia. He's not a total lock as town but I find it v unlikely he is mafia right now. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote: More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1. As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before. I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority. You missed the strongest point, somehow. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:43 kitaman27 wrote: Change on read town read to null? Not a huge deal to me. And yet a townie iamp who makes a potentially suspect comment on RNG is the best lynch? ok kita. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote: More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1. As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before. I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority. This looks like the only reasoning you can muster for Paper to be town, yet pretty evidently his lynch choices have been the ones lagging behind who town is going after at the time (Balla/BH -> me). Anything else? | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:50 kitaman27 wrote: Nope, I don't have a town read on him. I don't find the things that you're pointing out as obvious mafia as you apparently do. Where are you at on amiko? I paid less attention to him after the bathtub defence. Also he wants to lynch Paperscraps, so he's ok in my book. His posting isn't very inspiring though. | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:52 kitaman27 wrote: Definitely inconsistent. Not as sure that the read is fake, rather than him seeing poofter as townie at the start and then 20 hours later just deciding otherwise. The problem is, kita, is that there is zero evidence in his post that he decided otherwise based on what happened in the thread. He uses outside-of-thread reasoning to give his neutral read, while at the same time saying the reasoning wasn't very good. That doesn't look like he changed his mind. | ||
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then later he calls him null because of his approach to the game outside of the game, while not mentioning anything in-game it makes no sense | ||
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On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Catastrophic vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27 Holyflare (3): sandroba, LSB (0): Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, yamato77 (1): kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (1): Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi Currently no one is set to be lynched. With 29 alive it takes 15 to reach majority. Deadline is Saturday, Apr 05 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Best case EU. | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote: Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper? That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy. | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:44 Holyflare wrote: despite me pointing out the obvious flaws in that sandro case ~_~ I know, but however much you handwave it away using previous games, antagonising Robik was truly terrible, and I still think all your reads have been pretty misplaced. On the other hand I kinda fancy your reads would be less weird as mafia. Hence queasiness. | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:46 Holyflare wrote: so you're saying the guy that follows his scum read to change his stance on button pressing is a good guy? who are you referring to? | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:47 Holyflare wrote: and i don't care if antagonising robik was terrible he was a dick and full of himself last game and i relish in the opportunity to anger those kinds of people and you will pay for that with my suspicions, given antagonising him is clearly terrible for the thread. You signed up for that, now you gotta live with it! :> | ||
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On April 05 2014 00:50 LSB wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Paperscraps Reasoning here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=67#1323 This link reminds me that it would be swell if Keirathi could make his way to the thread and piss towniness all over my naked body. | ||
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You will read in my QT post-game. I am writing a story because i have noone to talk to. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote: Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia. I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it. Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post. Not in the slightest. | ||
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All I sought to establish with that is that it was alignment-neutral. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:20 Killing wrote: I know some people have made legitimate cases on why paperscraps is mafia, I'm just saying that people that are saying that is their strongest point are either dumb or mafia trying to get an easy lynch. Who has suggested that as the strongest point? I don't remember anyone. | ||
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Hmmm. That is interesting. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote: Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia. I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it. Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post. You do realise he claimed that he came across an item that required him to write backwards, right? So at the very least he would be lying in order to write backwards? | ||
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I don't get your point, he said he could vote Paperscaps long ago, and now he is. | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:45 Killing wrote: I just re-read his filter and I missed it. I don't know what to think now. LOL WOOPS Easy to miss someone's content when they're writing backwards, eh? ![]() | ||
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On April 05 2014 01:42 Killing wrote: Quickly on tehpoofter before I read amiko's filter, as town he's much more passionate about his reads. He's never willing to setttle for going along with the general town consensus but rather wants to push his own agenda. As mafia, he doesn't really want to rattle people and if he sees a ML, he'll just bandwagon onto it. This read to me as like scum happy that someone fucked up. It probably reads like nothing to you guys but it seemed like it to me. He states that he thinks that marv and rob could both be scum mates. I don't think banks could ever read rob as scum in this game. It's just so obvious to me that rob isn't mafia. I think he'd be with me thinking that rob is probably town. I disagree with the majority of his meta read post. I think if banks was town he'd be attacking marv harder here ( this was before marv found the paperscraps thing ) but he's kinda doing this friendly agree to disagree stuff even though he thinks they could be together. Then he votes on paperscraps and says we can lynch rob tommorow. None of this probably makes sense to any of you but just reading through tehpoofter's filter and then comparing it with his video meta, he reads scummy to me. I agree with you that I think he should find Robik town. I think I decided at the time that his read may be genuine but I don't feel very strongly about that. I dunno. There's bits and bobs in Poofter's filter that make me feel like he is town. Little jokes and questions. | ||
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On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote: The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse? neigh | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:22 Holyflare wrote: Paperscraps isn't in that list, paperscraps is being voted. Foolishness doesn't comment on paperscraps. Foolishness is a shitter version of shadow foolishness. Foolishness is mafia. a tempting read. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote: Yessssssssss Foolishness is so smart. (this is solely based on the fact he reads me town) Today we do what marv wants. BUT NOT TOMORROW (unless we lynch scum, then we follow marv his lead. Unless he decides to be evil again. But he wont. Probably. He will die I guess. If we lynch scum.) I don't like how your IQ has plummeted this game Koshi. | ||
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Plus I am right more often than Foolishness is right anyway. | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Marv can you think of any scumFoolish games where he self-imposed a posting restriction? And supposing his post-restriction is NOT self-imposed, do you think he'd participate as fervently as scum? I cannot. Do you think Foolish is participating fervently? | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, as fervently as I expect Foolishness to participate, sure. Do you disagree? He's not pushing any sort of lynch. And he's not commenting on the lead vote-getter, even though he agrees apparently with kita's list that does not include him. Which means that Foolishness is happy to see someone lynched he does not see as mafia. How does that make you feel? | ||
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On April 05 2014 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean he seems to be pushing iamp right? I agree that it's weird that he has no comment on Paperscraps. he's not pushing anything. although feel free to interpret that through your foolishness-lenses remember how... keirathi brought up that in the first Foolish post that he'd called Balla town? So he finds the time to include some random-ass townread in his posts, but he does not find the time to include a read on the guy with 100 votes. Pretty shocking play if he is town to be frank. | ||
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What gives, syllo? | ||
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It means Koshi is salty that we're so much better than him. I wouldn't worry about it. | ||
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On April 04 2014 21:58 syllogism wrote: It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"? If you have misgivings about this lynch, syllo, you need to explain very clearly to me why | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:05 Paperscraps wrote: .ever 1 day lynch scum Easies .by skating is and game all nothing says He .filter his read Just .iamperfection voting be all should We .bit a skim to Had .up caught Finally I find it hilarious your accusation against iamp is so much more appropriate to you and yet you think you're the "easiest read in the game" go figure | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote: .up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You Not according to your scum game in the database you don't | ||
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On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote: I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Here is how he describes it this game: On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote: .up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You The two are not the same | ||
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You convinced me to lynch my townread [green]bumatlarge in PYP and called my scumread JonnyLaw town on Day 1 In LIX you told me when I was mayor not to lynch prplhz In Fruity Mafia you thought I was mafia because I wanted to lynch Vivax on Day 1[/b] | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:26 Paperscraps wrote: ?lynched be to about are they when do to scum for tactic smart a is that think you Do Many mafia have done so in the past, and many will do so again. It's called being pissed off. Now can you explain why you are so much less insightful and useful than in the games of yours I've read as town? | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:33 Paperscraps wrote: .mind open an with me against case your revisit Just .another or today be it whether ,grave my to those taking probably will I and play my for reasons have I .here point driving main the is mafia was I if you help to inclined more be probably would I that gives me no reason to think you are town though. cmon dude. | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:41 sandroba wrote: Still not liking the paperscraps lynch. I'm inclined to go with tehpoofer if we can get enough support. That exchange with him and marv where he says he doesn't trust marv, therefore won't be voting paper is already a mafia tell, making assossiative reads with imcoplete information and not even reading the content of the case. But then he goes and does a complete 180 votes paper and vanishes after marv pressures him a bit. but why is paperscraps town at all? | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Thank goodness for later deadline. Still phoneposting but I'll be back at comp before deadline. I'm on the fence about paper, would probably be ok with poofterblynch, don't think I'd lynch amiko Anyone else being considered? Poking sandroba to look at gumshoe in the QT lol | ||
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On April 05 2014 05:57 syllogism wrote: His initial Robik read also feels disingenuous. This was very early into the game and the bolded doesn't actually have anything to do with this game. Could he have genuinely felt that robik had started giving out town reads, but then quit doing that at that stage of the game? That just seems like a blatant misrepresentation. ##unvote ##vote Tehpoofter The problem I have with this Robik stuff is that he actively asked the people who know IAmRobik to comment on his case. If Poofter is mafia making a fake case on Robik, why would he be specifically asking all the people who know Robik to comment on his case? That makes no sense to me. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:07 sandroba wrote: Maybe most obvious to you and me, but he was surely catching a bit of flak and looked like a target that would get support by others. I don't know how much weight I should put on paperscraps read though, it seems to me that people play very different in forum games from video mafia. For one, I watched a couple episodes and I absolutely suck at finding scum. I thought poof made his case after that had all died down though. and again, i don't see him appealing to the ppl who know Robik best to get their reaction to his case. "I'm making a case on a townie. Townies who know him best, what do you think of my case on a townie?" | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:16 Keirathi wrote: I actually kind of like this point. If you're scum and leading the lynch by a wide margin, then someone comes in and gives you a town read and an out on someone else to vote for, why would you call that person town? It doesn't make much sense. I guess if they are scum together (which i speculated a bit about earlier) it makes a bit more sense, but even then I think it would make more sense to save yourself and maybe get some towncred in the process? I used to think so too, but the only way to ever get towncred when you're overwhelmingly leading a lynch is to poo-poo at least one alternative. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:18 Paperscraps wrote: .yourselves it open to have you but ,truth of door the to all you lead only can I maybe if you didn't sheep terrible lynches repeatedly and ever said something worthwhile, we wouldn't be in this situation | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:19 sandroba wrote: Okay I somehow missed the inconsistency marv spotted by paperscraps describing his own mafia play. Fuck I don't know anymore. What is the case on gumshoe btw? I read his filter and there is nothing screaming scum to me. It's too hard to find stuff in this thread. Went after easy targets only in dandel + LSB lack of his usual paranoia regarding heavy posters (both of his last games he called rayn scum repeatedly) only defending himself in the 2nd half of filter by calling himself lazy rather than doing anything i'd still rather lynch paperscraps than poofter. all he's done is move from BH -> marv -> iamp as is convenient. I dunno. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:25 Paperscraps wrote: .do to want really you what to as bounds and leaps speak should That .do to thing right the is this yourself convince to hard to trying are you marv@ you might be right. but iamp is one of the worst lynches in the game and i'm not so hot on lynching poofter. Got any better ideas? | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:49 IAmRobik wrote: I love that you're defending me and all, but it's kinda creeping me out because you didn't take this sort of stance on anyone in Heavyweight Champ as far as I recall Because all I needed to do in that game was lynch mafia. Silly boy. | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:49 Keirathi wrote: And I'm not even saying that iamp is 100%-confirmed-town-innocent-child-never-lynch or anything. But he has very, very different styles as scum and town, and right now he is playing like his town style. I'm sure he can emulate it for a while (he did for a bit in the same GSL 3 game I just talked about), but he can't do it forever. Lynching him today would just be stupid. I cannot say it better than this | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:53 sandroba wrote: okay then, we can reavaluate next day. I'm about to default to poofer/gumshoe/va. We have to get something started up soon unless you guys really want to see poor scraps hanged. do you agree/disagree with whatever syllo's post-hoc point was about austin? | ||
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On April 05 2014 06:55 sandroba wrote: And yes I realise I butchered English again. tbh i will sheep you on any of gumshoe/va/austin/bh, but maybe not poof. choose one and i can offload responsibility to you. | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:00 sandroba wrote: Austin has posted so little though, and he can be pretty good if he is town. I can't really make a call on his alignment yet. The other 3 I'd be willing to lynch too. Well, it's up to you now. No pressure. | ||
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That's just awful. | ||
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and for some reason i kinda trust kita. | ||
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i totally understood kita's suspicions on poof/koshi, but then i also thought it made a lot of sense that the next day he had dropped them. it's what i expected a townie to do tbh. | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:13 IAmRobik wrote: Maybe I'm a 3p and don't know it? I do know that I win with the town so either way. I'm a good guy ![]() The reason it is weird, though, is that Amiko says your play does not look like your mafia game in Newbie but then he says he doesn't think you are town, but that you are scum/3p, probably more likely 3p it's a really weird read | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:16 IAmRobik wrote: Whatever. Unlike the people who were calling me scum earlier, he has no sway. what's that got to do with anything??? | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:17 sandroba wrote: I'm already 15 min late and my gf is calling me. Just tell me where to put my vote then and I can get out of here. just vote for who you prefer to lynch out of gumshoe and amiko maybe? | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote: He has no pull, so him calling me scum matters less to me than other people calling me scum. No one will listen to him, so he won't get me mislynched. it's not about you for god's sake, i'm talking about amiko's alignment. christ. | ||
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On April 05 2014 07:22 gumshoe wrote: I mean, I dont play, people fucking lynch me, I do play, hey that guys a lurker usually he has to be scum! Sigh. not seen that argument used against you in any of the games we've played together | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:28 Amiko wrote: @Holyflare: I can't deny there's a chance he's scum, but I think he's 3p. From how my role works, I think I have the best chance if town/3p works together. how does your role work? | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:35 Amiko wrote: I'm not willing to put my full role yet. It's something I'll consider, but I'll say this: I am immune to night kills (though I might be able to die at night... I'm not entirely sure). This is one of the reasons why I believed Robik's statement that he was immune, and similarly for kita's. I felt disclosing it was anti-town because if I kept quiet about it, I could potentially soak bullets. However, I think town loses much from me admitting this, because if I'm a lynch candidate I probably won't be night killed (at least by mafia). You can potentially confirm this part of my claim if there's a vigi. you do realise to soak bullets you have to play in a remotely townie manner, yes? | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote: are you claiming 3rd party, Amiko? answer this now pls | ||
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##Vote: Amiko | ||
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it's very simple. | ||
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On April 05 2014 08:57 Amiko wrote: Fine. I'm 3p. I want to work with town. I feel like I hinted at my alignment pretty consistently and practically claimed it anyway when I said I have a power similar to Robik & kita, who I also feel are 3p. I think you could have used this push to get reads on some of the players pushing my lynch if you backed off the demand for an alignment claim and talked with each other. But, I guess I not in a position to criticize play in this game. what drugs are you smoking? there's an hour left in the day and we need 15 votes... | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah this is why I worry. What are the chances we were even onto any scum in the three or so people up for lynch today? Funny that I missed out on a whole bunch of games where town just steamrolls scum and now that I come back we're back to square one. I want to call you out marv for not giving that 100% scumlynch but I suppose I have to be forgiving given it's not a mini +themed. Given i'm basically confirmed town, you can call out to your heart's content. | ||
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and poisoner is a scummy kinda role anyway. even though role doesn't equal alignment, i'm reaching ;D | ||
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holy - poisoner = use KP -> death next night | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:07 justanothertownie wrote: Woops. Meant to quote marv. you did quote me lol | ||
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v v v v v v disappointed in austin | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:09 Dandel Ion wrote: i have, but i must have missed a poisoner claim in this game gumshoe | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:11 austinmcc wrote: Catching up and am on 128 so we'll see if this continues but I don't see why Gumshoe is the magical lurker lynch over SUPER DUPER LURKY folks like Djodref. Who responded super quick to syllo about his read-through, then nothing. And more nothing. And for whoever wants to talk about multiple games, is less than alive in other games, which should yield an increase in participation/activity more than stuff like "people who are alive in other games are posting in other games." NOT A GREAT ARGUMENT. I UNDERSTAND. But I'm interested in why Gumshoe is specifically a good target over other lurkers. And if it's activity elsewhere, we've already seen RIGHT NOW that he can be inactive as town in other games. So the activity thing is basically a nullity (i'm not going to call someone town for not posting in a thread) But djo has been on some lists and not on others and is a way lurkier lurker than Gumshoe if you want lurkers. Hopefully someone else has realized this in the last couple pages. I've given reasons for disliking gumshoe. and before page 128 too. | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:13 Keirathi wrote: It came from: So he's a poisoner after day 1? yes! thanks! i am not going mad | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:20 austinmcc wrote: Yes marv, but you're not the only one voting him or halfway-considering voting him. we need a majority, we don't need to delve into everyone's reasons when you've not been fucked to turn up until now. | ||
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at least we get some kinda info with his death if he's town i guess :d | ||
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the world hasn't ended because we lynched a townie after all One of the problems with looking at the gumshoe voters is that in the end we simply needed a majority, and that's a good enough reason for anyone to vote for someone at the end of the day. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:25 LSB wrote: This game has been noted by obvious mafias. People that play so mafiaish that they scream "LYNCH Me". Unfortunatly it has grown to the point where it may well as be more mafia than town. Such is the life in TL. OBV Mafia (just click filter): Djodref, sandroba, VA, gumshoe - Note obv mafia is not a definative statement but more of a general filter impression. Strange stuff. I find the first paragraph kinda ironic given much of LSB's play this game as well. | ||
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On April 06 2014 01:40 sandroba wrote: You guys suck. Totally not my fault. 100% confirmed sandroba's fault | ||
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just sayin' like. | ||
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But he did one spectacularly townie thing so it's not really a very good comparison all in all | ||
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don't quote me on that though | ||
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On April 06 2014 02:55 sandroba wrote: Apparently noone knows when I'm joking to dodge the bad lynch. Yes I know it was my fault, dammit Everyone knows, we just want to relentlessly hammer you for it anyway <3 | ||
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On April 23 2014 14:27 Foolishness wrote: Correct: Correct: Correct: Wrong: Two Correct: Two mafia and a 3rd party, 2 correct town reads (Keirathi and Koshi). Couple wrong. One wrong, one correct: Correct: Now...let's check out that other guy... Two Wrong: Correct: One Wrong, One Correct: Correct: Wrong: One wrong, one half-correct: Wrong: Wrong: Correct: Wrong: Correct (or wrong depending on your viewpoint): Wrong: Wrong: Three Wrong, One Correct: Correct: Wrong: In summary: Wrong: Hey, I can't be perfect, just look at my recent games for how often I lynch mafia. Do you not remember Shadow game as you died you wanted to lynch Promethelax and hard-defended Holyflare/Toadesstern with massive, bullshit walls of text? Or Personality 2 (our lovely trainwreck) you wanted to lynch yamato, Crossfire, and marvellosity The difference is, I can point to myriad games this year alone where I actually got mafia lynched, rather than living on play from the past. Frankly I'm pretty stunned you felt the need to do this oneupmanship once the game has finished, but I'm happy to go at it if you wanna go down that road. | ||
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