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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 26 2014 12:16 GMT
#12
/in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 13:00 GMT
#81
I'm definitely looking forward to sheeping some people this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#83
I'm relaxing. We all play for different reasons :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 30 2014 10:34 GMT
#146
On March 30 2014 09:38 Palmar wrote:
really good at counting tbh

can confirm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2014 09:25 GMT
#156
On March 31 2014 11:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Given how Championship just turned out, I'm happy about this game happening. Too chaotic for town to simply steamroll mafia this game (makes for really boring games, even if I end up winning because of it).

Too many minis and not enough large game recently imo.

mm, agree with all of this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2014 14:01 GMT
#190
I would, but that activity one could seriously hamper my enjoyment.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2014 14:54 GMT
#198
On March 31 2014 23:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Tempting, but as it's been a while since my last game, I'll be doing what I want.

[image loading]
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2014 15:26 GMT
#212
On April 01 2014 00:24 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 00:07 Palmar wrote:
I hope I'm mafia.


Don't worry, You'll be the alignment shifting 3rd party mafia fake traitor tree-stump vote rigger.

Sounds like the only correct play is to lynch Palmar immediately. Excellent.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2014 15:28 GMT
#214
Arkham City?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2014 09:57 GMT
#284
On April 01 2014 18:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually sorry Palmar; I need to out your game.
I need to go back to "lazy and don't give a fuck" for a couple of games.

policy lynch.

nuh uh, that's not your character.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2014 15:04 GMT
#291
On April 02 2014 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Europe wont be leading the lynch. wow. scary stuff.

uh oh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2014 15:38 GMT
#295
that's because he wasn't being sarcastic
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2014 15:54 GMT
#297
fuck
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 02 2014 20:19 GMT
#320
On April 03 2014 05:14 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 04:48 IAmRobik wrote:
He edited 10 minutes after I asked...That's no ninja!

Are you questioning the hosts' supreme authority?

That could very well end in...


CATASTROPHE

[image loading]
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 10:15 GMT
#701
hi syllo! So I saved some quotes on my read-through

On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

I don't know why I saved this one. Kinda glazed over yamato's posts since.
On April 03 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's lots more room on the list! Anyone else want something?

Also Koshi wants something.. I think candies...
yes candies..

Let him ask for them himself then.
Even though I still don't have any cookies/candies...what do people think I am, some sort of confectionery?

Because I laughed out loud.
On April 03 2014 11:21 Balla24 wrote:
Let's just random lynch! Using this website http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/modulo-calculator/ and mod 30 for the # of players. #30 is 0.

Terrible. Cmon Balla.
On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then.

jat has been spending too much time with me

On April 03 2014 15:38 Amiko wrote:
I'm super sleepy so I will be direct, read the thread earlier tonight and here are my thoughts-

-stuff-

This was pretty curious. Why read the thread at some earlier point and only wait until you're about to go to bed to actually say anything? Consider my eyebrow raised.

That's all I got out of 20 pages. ick.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 10:39 GMT
#707
On April 03 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:
marv is scum

So scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 10:41 GMT
#712
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself

I think Greymist could do this.

More pertinently, it seems like a fuckton of effort to go through to write everything backwards. It's not something I'd ever see myself doing unnecessarily (as mafia presumably) because fuck that shit.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 11:01 GMT
#741
Robik, feel free to ignore Palmar. Most people do.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 11:21 GMT
#749
Robik, for realsies. This game is gonna feel like hard work if you do this angry thing constantly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 11:22 GMT
#751
On April 03 2014 20:21 Holyflare wrote:
Your tone is angry. Mafia get angry when they are read as mafia. You are mafia. Case closed.

I get much angrier as town when I am read as mafia than as mafia. What now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 11:27 GMT
#762
On April 03 2014 20:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
@robik do you think paperscraps only does the make the game harder for himself as mafia? I actually think Daniel made up that role and did that himself but I'm not really sure if its alignment indicative.

@Palmer does 7th party win with town?

@marv if I call you mafia how mad would you get? partly mad or like really really mad?

It depends if I thought you were serious, if you meant it, whether you explained it properly so I could tell you how you are wrong, etc. Mostly I will get mad if I am getting called mafia for terrible reasons, and even when I explain why they are terrible, people continue to insist I am mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 12:48 GMT
#801
On April 03 2014 21:43 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself

I think Greymist could do this.

More pertinently, it seems like a fuckton of effort to go through to write everything backwards. It's not something I'd ever see myself doing unnecessarily (as mafia presumably) because fuck that shit.

It takes no effort at all. In fact, if you go here, copy paste his post and choose "flip wording", you get a perfectly normal post with no errors at all, spacing and all. That suggests it was done automatically rather than manually. Did this not occur to you?

It is reasonable to believe that Greymist would realize such tools are available and I don't think it's likely he that would make a role with a posting restriction that takes no effort on the part of the person with the role. It also just makes the game more annoying to read and as far as I know, there are no previous Greymist roles with posting restrictions. If you agree, do you think this says something about Paperscraps?

I didn't know such Reverse thingies existed. In hindsight it seems obvious enough they would I guess. If it's voluntary, then he could either be mafia making himself intentionally unreadable or just someone trolling around for no particular reason. I don't have any real opinion on which is more likely
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 12:52 GMT
#804
nope
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 12:52 GMT
#805
apart from the Amiko observation, that's the only useful thing I picked up (from my point of view anyway)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 12:55 GMT
#810
On April 03 2014 21:53 syllogism wrote:
I don't recall ever playing a game with him so I'm not sure whether something like that would be out of character for him or not. Before commenting further, I would like to hear paperscrap's own explanation for it, assuming he doesn't stand by his assertion that it is a role based posting restriction.

Robik who has played with him (quite a bit?) appears to think that a mafia Paper would do so simply for his own amusement. But I'm kinda loathe to take people's word for things on stuff that I can't verify. So yeah, waiting on Paper sounds just lovely.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 12:58 GMT
#818
On April 03 2014 21:55 iamperfection wrote:
Do you have an opinion on Robik Marv?

Sure, he's a light townread, came out the gate quickly making silly little reads that he's prone to making as town, and his self-righteous arrogant anger comes across as genuine, I think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:02 GMT
#824
On April 03 2014 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

red part: nono. yamato would try to read me as town but he would also "try to read me" as scum. either a lie or a very lazy comment
green part: another good one, or rather.. bad one. yamato's read or "read" is not nonsense. my reads are definitely not nonsense because i already said i am srs. so austin are you calling me a liar? or are you making the same lazy "didn't read properly, didn't think for a second and i admit it, but anyways i am taking a stance" opening post you made in last game?
blue part: how does me thinking yamato is serious make yamato more town? this makes no sense.

best lynch 2014.

I noticed this too and found it pretty strange. But I don't see why it's mafia-strange. austin is prone to making really stupid reads based on nothing (sorry my love). And of all the things to give a townread for, that one seems particularly stupid. So stupid in fact that making it as mafia seems far-fetched, because surely it's going to get you flak.

So while I can agree that the paragraph is poo-poo, you'll have to tell me exactly why it's red poo-poo.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:03 GMT
#826
oh good, I have a parrot
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:04 GMT
#831
On April 03 2014 22:04 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 21:44 Palmar wrote:
hmm syllo, analytical, reasonable.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



Come on bro it's not like you even need to read sandrojism they just don't play if they're scum

mind = blown
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:06 GMT
#834
On April 03 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

red part: nono. yamato would try to read me as town but he would also "try to read me" as scum. either a lie or a very lazy comment
green part: another good one, or rather.. bad one. yamato's read or "read" is not nonsense. my reads are definitely not nonsense because i already said i am srs. so austin are you calling me a liar? or are you making the same lazy "didn't read properly, didn't think for a second and i admit it, but anyways i am taking a stance" opening post you made in last game?
blue part: how does me thinking yamato is serious make yamato more town? this makes no sense.

best lynch 2014.

I noticed this too and found it pretty strange. But I don't see why it's mafia-strange. austin is prone to making really stupid reads based on nothing (sorry my love). And of all the things to give a townread for, that one seems particularly stupid. So stupid in fact that making it as mafia seems far-fetched, because surely it's going to get you flak.

So while I can agree that the paragraph is poo-poo, you'll have to tell me exactly why it's red poo-poo.

bcz for the one time i have caught mafia!austin red handed and danced on his grave with sebastian i got the same exact feeling from his very first post. Usually i just don't understand him and everything looks the nullest null in the nulland.

That's not doing much for me I'm afraid. Ask austin yourself, I shout at him every game for making reads that make no sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:13 GMT
#840
On April 03 2014 22:13 iamperfection wrote:
Balla might be scum. His random lynch idea is whatever but he didn't take any time to try and convince anyone to do it more talking about fairness and what not. Seems like he just suggested it for appearances.

Those Prome -in-LX feels
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:15 GMT
#842
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.
Rayn also town
Marv prolly scum

Anyone who this I'm mafia is braindead.
Heading to work now.
Will post as much as I can there, but we have "important people" coming in for meetings, so I might not be around as much as I'd like.
Ummmm, what else. Oh right. If I'm alive tonight, I'm going to be using my night action on Joey (it's nothing bad). I suggest no one target Joey or myself. It might turn out poorly for you.

BYE! <3 fuck the haters

Wow, that's what I get for being reasonable with you. Jeez.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 13:25 GMT
#852
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Aren't you doing the same thing to me?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 14:03 GMT
#864
When did Oats become so wise?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 14:07 GMT
#878
On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 14:10 GMT
#885
On April 03 2014 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:05 Keirathi wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
JESUS WHATS A GUY GOTTA DO TO GET ON A TOWNIE LIST UP IN THIS BITCH?!?!

Like at first I was like "Meh Palmar thinks I'm scum whatever" when I was catching up but seriously NO ONE thinks I'm town?! What a ripoff. Should we just start voting for me now and get it over with?

Zzzz don't tell me you're going to pull this whole "woe is me" shit again

If woe becomes me again, then I may. That was just a frustration post. Pray I do not make another.

I think you're town babes. Also ignore Palmar, he's being wilfully disruptive and bad; what that means right now I don't know.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#887
On April 03 2014 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
Meh Robik is basically antagonizing every player in the game and basically asking to be lynched. That is not a winning scum strat he is probably town. We aren't lynching him.

Have a gold star, Sherlock
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 03 2014 14:12 GMT
#894
On April 03 2014 23:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I tried to give him some breathing room but LSB has still given me no reason to keep him around. Can some of the people ignoring my posts look at LSB and tell me with a straight face that we should not lynch him?

LSB always looks terrible. Two things to note:
1) his conversation in the TL Power Rank thread about looking scummy on purpose (yes I know it's stupid, but he said it and believed it)
2) he looked like shite in PYP: Fisticuffs because he talked about irrelevant shit + was wrong also, yet he was town.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:13 GMT
#897
On April 03 2014 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.


The fact that you think it's weird that i open in a trollish nature in a game to antagonise a player is weird marv. Why are you so weird?

I'm not weird, I'm trying to stamp out your shit because I think you'll listen to me whereas Palmar will not. There's enough trolly crap in this game without needing you (someone actually vaguely capable) to join in also.
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April 03 2014 14:14 GMT
#898
On April 03 2014 23:13 iamperfection wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
Meh Robik is basically antagonizing every player in the game and basically asking to be lynched. That is not a winning scum strat he is probably town. We aren't lynching him.

Have a gold star, Sherlock

DO NOT TALK DOWN TO ME

<3
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:16 GMT
#903
Palmar should basically be ignored until he starts engaging the thread constructively - too many people are getting irrationally upset by his baseless reads.

Either he joins in and plays like a big boy at some point, or he doesn't and we dispose of him.

It's really easy.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:19 GMT
#914
On April 03 2014 23:18 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

Just a hot tip: calling anyone who ever things you might be scum "fucking awful" and screaming about how you are "obvs 100% town" probably isn't the way to go about that.

Just sayin'.

I disagree, it's a fine strat.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:22 GMT
#921
On April 03 2014 23:21 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:18 Keirathi wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

Just a hot tip: calling anyone who ever things you might be scum "fucking awful" and screaming about how you are "obvs 100% town" probably isn't the way to go about that.

Just sayin'.

I disagree, it's a fine strat.

Oh? How'd it work out for you in LVIII?

*Yes, I know you didn't get lynched. But you still ragequit and got modkilled

That was my choice though. And I've done the same thing in many other games to great success. Depending on your definition of "success" that is. The definition I'm using is the one where I can use the word in that context.
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April 03 2014 14:22 GMT
#922
On April 03 2014 23:19 Balla24 wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway whatever.
I really prefer lynching balla over practically anyone else at the moment. Does anyone want to join the wagon of justice?

YES YOU DO. HOP RIGHT ON!

####waaaaaaaaagonofjustice~~~~~~~

It would be infinitely preferable if you just actually played the game.
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April 03 2014 14:24 GMT
#926
On April 03 2014 23:23 iamperfection wrote:
But since your here balla anything to say? if your mafia don't post accept your fate of course.

NO. I am *so* bored of mafia rolling over.
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April 03 2014 14:27 GMT
#930
On April 03 2014 23:25 iamperfection wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 iamperfection wrote:
But since your here balla anything to say? if your mafia don't post accept your fate of course.

NO. I am *so* bored of mafia rolling over.

Who gives a shit. Just win baby.

I give a shit. It's boring.
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April 03 2014 14:47 GMT
#953
On April 03 2014 23:45 strongandbig wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.


who is being the most disruptive and making the least sense? i dont think i think it is who you think it is, unless im confused by your grammar

Fairly obviously Palmar
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:52 GMT
#962
On April 03 2014 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
And they aren't insults it's construtive. You keep targeting people in this game to come to no conclusion whatsoever. What's the point of that?

do you seriously think Robik is mafia??
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:53 GMT
#965
then why are you questioning him repeatedly over stuff that's not going to lead anywhere? it's so pointless.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 14:58 GMT
#971
On April 03 2014 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
marv who are you looking at lynching today? Or is it too early? I've come to grips with the fact that we're not going to agree on D1 lynches. We arrive at our reads differently and it's whatever, I'll deal with it. But I'd still like to know who you're looking at and why.

my lynches are always right though :p

i dunno. i don't have any particular suspicions other than the minor stuff i mentioned. I can't judge much in a game this size/chaotic this early on. I've accumulated a bunch of town reads to some degree and that's about it.
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April 03 2014 15:00 GMT
#978
On April 04 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
marv who are you looking at lynching today? Or is it too early? I've come to grips with the fact that we're not going to agree on D1 lynches. We arrive at our reads differently and it's whatever, I'll deal with it. But I'd still like to know who you're looking at and why.

my lynches are always right though :p

I can hear VayneAuthority rolling in his grave.

that was a default lynch though. Not one I cared to push hard through to completion.
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April 03 2014 15:17 GMT
#1004
On April 04 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations.

Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that.
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On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

You have my axe.

It's precisely the reason I have him marked as light town as well, actually
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April 03 2014 15:19 GMT
#1008
On April 04 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations.

Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that.
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

You have my axe.

It's precisely the reason I have him marked as light town as well, actually

Well that's funny because Robik didn't even give an explicit reason.

rayn said the same, basically. "looks more lighthearted than Foundation" is my own wording.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 16:05 GMT
#1083
I already explained why your case doesn't demonstrate austin is mafia.
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April 03 2014 16:16 GMT
#1101
On April 04 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
I already explained why your case doesn't demonstrate austin is mafia.

No you did not.

I really did. You disagreed, but there's a reason several other people have given essentially the same reason for not liking the case as me; you're making a read based on what you find is your personal experience, but from what other people are seeing and in my much greater personal experience, what you say doesn't necessarily jive with austin-mafia.

Also yes Palmar is bullshitting to the extreme, it's a bit dull.
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April 03 2014 16:18 GMT
#1107
We can possibly deal with Palmar tomorrow (as in Friday).

I'm curious as to what syllogism thinks of his behaviour.
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April 03 2014 16:21 GMT
#1112
rayn is pretty town.
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April 03 2014 16:33 GMT
#1138
On April 04 2014 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:28 GreYMisT wrote:
Balla24 is being replaced. This will happen in the next few hours.

We should just lynch the person who replaced balla. Balla clearly wanted out because he didn't want to be scum and made up some bullshit reasoning to GreYMisT (kidding, but not really)

Maybe he was drown in the shower.

That conjures up the slightly scary image that Greymist is spying on all of us, for him to know so fast.
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April 03 2014 16:59 GMT
#1169
On April 04 2014 01:55 syllogism wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
We can possibly deal with Palmar tomorrow (as in Friday).

I'm curious as to what syllogism thinks of his behaviour.

Based on my recent discussions with him and how he played as mafia in Titanic Mini, I don't think his play so far makes him mafia. You followed along that game so it should be fresh in your mind. What about his play so far makes him mafia? When you say we can deal with him tomorrow, do you mean to imply that he is your strongest read right now?

It means I don't particularly know what to think. As far as I can see, he's trying to play along with his persona from the pre-game. The problem is that all of his reads (mafia ones) don't make sense and/or seem wrong to me, and don't fit into what I'd think "neutral good" would mean as a persona.
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April 03 2014 17:05 GMT
#1182
On April 04 2014 02:03 syllogism wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:59 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:55 syllogism wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
We can possibly deal with Palmar tomorrow (as in Friday).

I'm curious as to what syllogism thinks of his behaviour.

Based on my recent discussions with him and how he played as mafia in Titanic Mini, I don't think his play so far makes him mafia. You followed along that game so it should be fresh in your mind. What about his play so far makes him mafia? When you say we can deal with him tomorrow, do you mean to imply that he is your strongest read right now?

It means I don't particularly know what to think. As far as I can see, he's trying to play along with his persona from the pre-game. The problem is that all of his reads (mafia ones) don't make sense and/or seem wrong to me, and don't fit into what I'd think "neutral good" would mean as a persona.

I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you suggesting that he isn't role playing/messing around because it doesn't seem to match his D&D alignment?

No, I'm suggesting that he is roleplaying, but I'd expect "neutral-good", which was his alignment-roll pre-game, to lead to better/good reads rather than poor ones.
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April 03 2014 17:06 GMT
#1184
On April 04 2014 02:05 Palmar wrote:
Marv doesn't understand character depth.
I am not evil, I am active. But I have added other qualities to myself. A bit like windows update.

Why don't you make like XP? :D
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April 03 2014 17:10 GMT
#1195
On April 04 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote:
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On April 04 2014 02:07 Palmar wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:06 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:05 Palmar wrote:
Marv doesn't understand character depth.
I am not evil, I am active. But I have added other qualities to myself. A bit like windows update.

Why don't you make like XP? :D

strange wording, forced smiley
can I get tone cop Robik on this case?

Oh shit. I totally misread it. Holy fuck. I think what I said still holds true, but yea...not sure why he would go back and edit that

What are you talking about?
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April 03 2014 17:13 GMT
#1200
I liked sand's posts while he was in the thread
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April 03 2014 17:51 GMT
#1258
On April 04 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv why did you do a weird catch up post instead of normal marv ketchup?

There wasn't very much interesting to comment on.
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April 03 2014 17:55 GMT
#1264
On April 04 2014 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv why did you do a weird catch up post instead of normal marv ketchup?

There wasn't very much interesting to comment on.

How did you know it before finishing reading?

Premonition.
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April 03 2014 18:18 GMT
#1292
On April 04 2014 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am quite sure marvellosity is mafia.
Can't explain properly.

This only goes to prove you are not worthy of my level, padawan.
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April 03 2014 18:29 GMT
#1300
lol
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April 03 2014 18:41 GMT
#1304
Everything I've said has made perfect sense, that's the amusing part. Basically the fact I didn't find what austin wrote scummy just means I'm better than you, not that I am not making sense. I quoted the yamato post because I had saved it and i was amused that after reading 20 pages I could not remember why I saved it. I am further amused that you would think that, with you in the game who always comments on my catchup posts, I would decide as mafia to make a different sort of post so that you would pay attention to it. Brilliant, rayn, brilliant.
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April 03 2014 18:43 GMT
#1307
Because I am better than you. And my judgement is that it was not scummy, and it's not weird for me to think that, it just means I have a different opinion to yours, and usually my opinion is proven correct over yours.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 18:45 GMT
#1310
why would I omgus him? I've literally zero interest in lynching rayn.
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April 03 2014 18:47 GMT
#1312
On April 04 2014 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because my case makes perfect sense. my case made perfect sense last time too.
he says stuff without thinking. not thinking in his way, not thinking in any way.
"austin thinks weirdly" is not a defense because he didn't think.

Fine, but I've played with austin many more times than you have, and in my opinion the case does not hold water. And multiple people agreed with me on that also. That does not make it weird or bad that I do not agree about austin's post being scummy. you just think you're right and therefore you think I am wrong, and you think I am scummy for being wrong. It's just a terrible failure of logic on your part.

What did you say in Heavyweight champs? "the thrawn case is 100x better than the palmar case". Except no, it wasn't, and I didn't go for the thrawn case, I went for Palmar instead. I had a different opinion, just like I had a different opinion this time. That's it.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 18:50 GMT
#1317
On April 04 2014 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay marv. Best defense = find mafia.

As usual i will progress at my own pace, and I don't particularly feel the need to perform.

The game is pretty unenjoyable for me right now because Palmar is trolling about and 90% of the rest of the thread is other people playing along with the trolling, and it's just pointless.

For me if you're going to muck around in a game you should find mafia at the same time, but at the moment none of that is happening and it's extremely dull.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 18:51 GMT
#1318
On April 04 2014 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:47 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because my case makes perfect sense. my case made perfect sense last time too.
he says stuff without thinking. not thinking in his way, not thinking in any way.
"austin thinks weirdly" is not a defense because he didn't think.

Fine, but I've played with austin many more times than you have, and in my opinion the case does not hold water. And multiple people agreed with me on that also. That does not make it weird or bad that I do not agree about austin's post being scummy. you just think you're right and therefore you think I am wrong, and you think I am scummy for being wrong. It's just a terrible failure of logic on your part.

What did you say in Heavyweight champs? "the thrawn case is 100x better than the palmar case". Except no, it wasn't, and I didn't go for the thrawn case, I went for Palmar instead. I had a different opinion, just like I had a different opinion this time. That's it.

But you respect my opinion and i know it.
In last game i insta-thought austin was mafia. For the exact same thing!!!
You have told me you have a hard time reading austin.
I would think you give at least some credit to me and not throw the case in thrash straight up.

I didn't throw it in the trash, I had already thought about austin's post when I'd read it, and I'd decided it wasn't particularly alignment indicative, and nothing you said changed that.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 18:54 GMT
#1322
hmm. Aladdin maybe?
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April 03 2014 19:00 GMT
#1328
On April 04 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:54 marvellosity wrote:
hmm. Aladdin maybe?
The players in this game are Aladdin characters.

Who is the carpet and why?

Who is the genie, except that instead of being summoned from a lamp, the genie in this case has to be summoned from Europe?

Who gets to be Princess Jasmine?

Right now, you are the carpet because you are whisking me away from the banality of the thread into a whole new world.

Koshi is the genie, except that is a futuristic prediction, because I expect him to come from nothing and poop goodness all over the thread.

Palmar is Princess Jasmine, because he has so many suitors bafflingly vying for his attention
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April 03 2014 19:13 GMT
#1351
On April 04 2014 04:08 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:54 marvellosity wrote:
hmm. Aladdin maybe?
The players in this game are Aladdin characters.

Who is the carpet and why?

Who is the genie, except that instead of being summoned from a lamp, the genie in this case has to be summoned from Europe?

Who gets to be Princess Jasmine?

Right now, you are the carpet because you are whisking me away from the banality of the thread into a whole new world.

Koshi is the genie, except that is a futuristic prediction, because I expect him to come from nothing and poop goodness all over the thread.

Palmar is Princess Jasmine, because he has so many suitors bafflingly vying for his attention
Is the Jasmine read because "ick, girls" or "ick, brown girls"? You don't think suitors should have been vying for Jasmine?

If HF is a magical rules-changing fairy, what's ruleset do you think is the most town-favored to be imported (maybe partially) into this game?

She just had money, boring. Although I guess she turned out ok. *crosses fingers*

Too difficult a question for me.
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April 03 2014 19:16 GMT
#1356
On April 04 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, do you think I'm town?

Srs question.

Probably, although not because you've been particularly useful, rather some of your posts have a more lighthearted tone than you manage to pull off as mafia. Like the fightin' one with Robik for example.
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April 03 2014 19:18 GMT
#1359
On April 04 2014 04:15 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 04:13 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:08 austinmcc wrote:
On April 04 2014 04:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:54 marvellosity wrote:
hmm. Aladdin maybe?
The players in this game are Aladdin characters.

Who is the carpet and why?

Who is the genie, except that instead of being summoned from a lamp, the genie in this case has to be summoned from Europe?

Who gets to be Princess Jasmine?

Right now, you are the carpet because you are whisking me away from the banality of the thread into a whole new world.

Koshi is the genie, except that is a futuristic prediction, because I expect him to come from nothing and poop goodness all over the thread.

Palmar is Princess Jasmine, because he has so many suitors bafflingly vying for his attention
Is the Jasmine read because "ick, girls" or "ick, brown girls"? You don't think suitors should have been vying for Jasmine?

If HF is a magical rules-changing fairy, what's ruleset do you think is the most town-favored to be imported (maybe partially) into this game?

She just had money, boring. Although I guess she turned out ok. *crosses fingers*

Too difficult a question for me.
If the game is banal, and you are the walking repository of past games, just like...name a thing or two? Agreed on bureaucracy maybe being bad for scum? Do you remember any other games where scum had an advantage/disadvantage to balance, but the advantage wouldn't carry over well?

We did not watch the same Aladdin either. Dem hips.

I admit, I am a terrible heterosexual.

Bureaucracy was only because town shouldn't have been given mafia-communication interfering mechanics and were given too many blues, not that the idea itself was mafia-favoured. PYP games should be good for town although I'm not sure how that would ever be implemented. Cell Mini Mafia which is ongoing has some townfavoured mechanics in it in that you're guaranteed mafia within a small group.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#1385
On April 04 2014 05:20 Koshi wrote:
I would vote for you Blazinghand but I don't want to make marv comfortable.

I am extremely comfortable.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 20:24 GMT
#1387
Yet to be determined :o
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April 03 2014 22:04 GMT
#1405
On April 04 2014 07:00 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote paperscraps

Tempting.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:05 GMT
#1406
it's a super-weak sheep right there
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:06 GMT
#1407
On April 04 2014 07:00 Paperscraps wrote:
.today for lynch great a like seems (Blazinghand)Balla24

.now right cozy and nice seem pockets s'Palmar .day first this vote a sheeping up end just probably will I .on early him reading town nobody and him on pressure the to reacted he how with now more VisceraEyes like of kind I

.bleed eyes my making are posts liner-one the All !Batman spam Holy

All the one-liner posts are making his eyes bleed -> I shall sheep Palmar, the one-line spamming king.

Interesting.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:09 GMT
#1410
I'm implying no such thing, else I'd have been all over various other people by now.

The manner matters, though.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#1411
Palmar's not even voting BH

wtf is that post
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:14 GMT
#1419
you can have my sword for now, BH

##vote: paperscraps
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:15 GMT
#1421
btw don't waste my sword, as i don't give it to you very often.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:17 GMT
#1425
All Palmar's reads are terrible and he's not even playing the game properly, so Paperscraps saying he's sheeping a trolling spammer while at the same time saying spam is making his eyes bleed is just stinkywinky.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:18 GMT
#1428
I... I'm speechless.
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April 03 2014 22:19 GMT
#1430
On April 04 2014 07:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 11:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:22 Balla24 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21111891

21111891 mod 30 is 21.00

##vote Paperscraps

Is BH smurfing?


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 02:27 GreYMisT wrote:
Blazinghand has replaced Balla24! Let us all welcome him!


I'd just like to say I'm fucking psychic.
##Vote: Blazinghand
Sorry dude, recent trends don't lie. Especially considering Balla's likely play and/or reaction to rolling scum. (Not to say he didn't have a legit reason to out, but it makes it more likely he'd give up and replace out rather than attempt to stick it out 'till the end like I would 'cause I love playing scum)

Already mostly caught up, be back after bath/bedtime.

Just to be clear, you're willing to lynch someone because recently mafia have replaced out of other games?
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:20 GMT
#1433
On April 04 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
btw don't waste my sword, as i don't give it to you very often.


I know, and this sounds weird but you agreeing with me actually makes me suspicious of you. Like, you're definitely smart enough to know I'm town, but you're also the kind of guy who likes to lynch me entirely for fun even when we're both town and you know it. Ain't that crazy

That's to be expected, and tbh you'd say the same thing as mafia anyway. So *shrug*
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:22 GMT
#1437
Excellent. One person bought off, 28 to go.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:23 GMT
#1438
would also totes lynch Amiko.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:28 GMT
#1440
naw, VA is random atm and Djodref is just ? Djo is cute too.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 22:31 GMT
#1442
you're entitled to your opinion
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 23:46 GMT
#1477
On April 04 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
##vote: marvellosity

Atm he is building himself a filter without content and I know that is something he doesn't want to do as town because he wants to be able to play scum and he feels if he build filters that are too big as town all the time he wont be able to play scum because he can't have big filters as scum. so why is he building a big filter for the sake of building a big filter?

sleep tiems.

this post gave me cancer
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 23:49 GMT
#1480
On April 04 2014 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
##vote: marvellosity

Atm he is building himself a filter without content and I know that is something he doesn't want to do as town because he wants to be able to play scum and he feels if he build filters that are too big as town all the time he wont be able to play scum because he can't have big filters as scum. so why is he building a big filter for the sake of building a big filter?

sleep tiems.

this post gave me cancer

marv cannot have big filters as mafia

therefore, because marv has a big filter, he is mafia

Mind=blown
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 23:51 GMT
#1482
Amiko: I may be prepared to accept the bathtub defence. If you'd said shower I'd have been really suspicious though.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 23:58 GMT
#1486
rayn, I just read Koshi's filter and I think he's mafia.

How do you feel about that?
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 23:58 GMT
#1487
On April 04 2014 08:57 sandroba wrote:
I'm still catching up, but I want to comment on something. I'm on page 46 and at this point it became pretty clear to me that the robik fella is frustrated as hell and very likely town, yet Palmar and HF are really pounding on him and not comming around despite the evidence being there. What gives palmar?

yes, they're both terrible.
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marvellosity
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April 03 2014 23:59 GMT
#1489
we don't talk about the other game in here.
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April 04 2014 00:00 GMT
#1492
On April 04 2014 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 08:58 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, I just read Koshi's filter and I think he's mafia.

How do you feel about that?

have not read hi,m.
i think might wanna sleep so i am not more angry.

Please sleep, or you can chat with me. Don't go off shouting at other people though.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 00:00 GMT
#1493
okies.

cliff notes: Koshi's vote reasoning on me is terrible
Koshi hasn't done anything else
Except the other thing he has done was to agree on Dandel about Oats, and I don't think town-Koshi should do that.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 00:02 GMT
#1495
that ^
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April 04 2014 00:09 GMT
#1503
On April 04 2014 09:07 Keirathi wrote:
Oh yea, how come no one talked about Foolishness slipping in that "Balla is town" thing?

I didn't really know what to say about it. My stab is that he just thinks Balla is town for what he did for some reason, and I think he's capable of thinking/writing so as either alignment. I also empathised with some things that Foolishness said about the state of the game, which overall made me quite sympathetic to the whole post.
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April 04 2014 00:09 GMT
#1504
rayn, you will stop this right now. No more posting tonight.
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April 04 2014 00:11 GMT
#1506
hush my child
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April 04 2014 00:12 GMT
#1510
koshi is probably mafia though.
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April 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#1515
On April 04 2014 09:14 sandroba wrote:
@marv Why do you conclude he is bad as opposed to scum? I noticed a thrend that you refuse to stand up against him even though you admit he is purposely disruptive and might be scum. Any particular reason?

@palmar I only know the really old ones and they all suck. Now that I entretained you can you answer me and can you tell me why you are doing w/e you think are doing?

Because I don't know his alignment. He could be scum. I just don't know.

Palmar is my bunny, so I'm not afraid of him. I'm just not gonna declare on his alignment when I dunno what it is. What is there to say to him?
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April 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#1518
awkward
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April 04 2014 00:18 GMT
#1522
Well you have inherent guilt (not even of the scummy sort, just the you-know-you're-doing-something-wrong sort) about it anyway because you're already adding in a disclaimer before anything happened. My work here is done.
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April 04 2014 00:23 GMT
#1529
On April 04 2014 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:18 marvellosity wrote:
Well you have inherent guilt (not even of the scummy sort, just the you-know-you're-doing-something-wrong sort) about it anyway because you're already adding in a disclaimer before anything happened. My work here is done.

I only feel that way because as soon as I posted it apparently people were already off that idea.
Are you so sure my reasoning is wrong?

I may yet decide to actively push it but the day is young.

Perhaps it may have some validity in that towns are doing better recently, but historical stats over 5 years or however long it is show that townies are just as likely to replace out as mafia (if not more so slightly i believe? not checked). So pinch of salt.

I'd prefer it if you thought your reasoning was strong enough without resorting to replacement wifom.
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April 04 2014 00:38 GMT
#1543
On April 04 2014 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
I grow weary of Palmar.
I'm kinda sad all the fun early game stuff has ended.

Marv can I talk to you about rayn actually? I was getting way stronger townvibes from him than you throughout, and considering the two of you have been inexorably intertwined lately and he had you as scum (at least before he went on a drunk rampage?) as boring as the recent minis have been, it makes me simply want to blindly listen to him.
Any reason I shouldn't?

That's a silly question Wave. You're just saying "tell me why you're town" which is silly. rayn does not read me flawlessly like I read him, though.
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April 04 2014 00:45 GMT
#1556
On April 04 2014 09:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:38 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
I grow weary of Palmar.
I'm kinda sad all the fun early game stuff has ended.

Marv can I talk to you about rayn actually? I was getting way stronger townvibes from him than you throughout, and considering the two of you have been inexorably intertwined lately and he had you as scum (at least before he went on a drunk rampage?) as boring as the recent minis have been, it makes me simply want to blindly listen to him.
Any reason I shouldn't?

That's a silly question Wave. You're just saying "tell me why you're town" which is silly. rayn does not read me flawlessly like I read him, though.

If I am to believe his and DPs analysis of Shadow game, then I believe he does as of late.
Has there been a game since where you were scum?
And has there been a game since that you two played together where you did not read each others' alignments accurately?

he called me mafia in default suspicions, afked through the lynch and then realised i was being a god as usual when toad flipped mafia
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April 04 2014 00:48 GMT
#1563
Define "sucking balls"

Pretty sure I've called everything I've commented on pretty much correctly.
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April 04 2014 00:53 GMT
#1572
On April 04 2014 09:51 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:48 marvellosity wrote:
Define "sucking balls"

Pretty sure I've called everything I've commented on pretty much correctly.

Not doing anything usefull. Being a presence yet not doing shit to lynch mafia. I.E jumping on this retarded paperscraps wagon.

Tell me why it's retarded then. I've done plenty useful things, defending Robik when the thread was retardedly on his ass was pretty useful. Maybe work with me rather than just saying random shit. Because yes, you are quite likely to be town. Maybe even very likely.

I haven't caught a bunch of mafia in 24h, but then again, neither have you.
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April 04 2014 01:01 GMT
#1577
On April 04 2014 09:55 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:51 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 09:38 sandroba wrote:
I'm town. I'd like some non bullshit reads or insights on syllo, marv and holyflare.


Aren't you the resident syllo expert?

Based on my experience, syllo feels uncomfortable posting actively as mafia. He hasn't been very open with reads so far so I think he looks the worst of the three. Usually I'm convinced he is town a few minutes into the game and that hasn't happened yet.

With marv, I liked his defense of LSB because he seems like an easy target based on his poor filter and he indeed does often look terrible. His post to reads ratio is good enough for me that he seems town for the time being. Eventually I'm going to want to see some stronger reads/follow-up though.

Holy maybe has a cool role? Takes the same view as I do on paper. No strong read yet.

I'm supposed to be, but I can't tell either way so far. I'll see if he does something useful tomorrow besides coaching people on anger management, if he doesn't there is reason to be worried.
I get it that palmar wants to spam the thread and I'm not sure if he is mafia for it yet, but holy enabling him feels out of character from the little I've seen from him.
Marv just seems flat out useless so far.

Funny that I'm the only one who already brought up this point, eh sandroba?
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April 04 2014 01:01 GMT
#1578
I bolded the whole thing because you mention something that I brought up alone, and then called me useless.

It's just fantastic.
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April 04 2014 01:05 GMT
#1582
On April 04 2014 10:02 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 09:53 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 09:51 sandroba wrote:
On April 04 2014 09:48 marvellosity wrote:
Define "sucking balls"

Pretty sure I've called everything I've commented on pretty much correctly.

Not doing anything usefull. Being a presence yet not doing shit to lynch mafia. I.E jumping on this retarded paperscraps wagon.

Tell me why it's retarded then. I've done plenty useful things, defending Robik when the thread was retardedly on his ass was pretty useful. Maybe work with me rather than just saying random shit. Because yes, you are quite likely to be town. Maybe even very likely.

I haven't caught a bunch of mafia in 24h, but then again, neither have you.


Alright I'm willing to roll with that. Paperscraps is likely non mafia because doing random shit like typing backwards is not a mafia tell and he voluntarily disclosed information about him and VE being somehow connect and still being suspicious of VE which is a town tell. Also his filter is one page, let the dude play some more freely before we wagon up on him and he becomes all defensive and now you can't tell shit about his alignment.
There are probably better people to focus who have a larger filter but I haven't started filter diving yet. Do you have any ideas on who to start with?

All my main suspicions are out in the thread, and they're mostly not the active players. Actually I think syllogism looks ok, I'm not sure why he'd come after me at all if he were mafia. I remember him being more passive than that when you hydrad with him in whatever game it was.

Feel free to look into Holy, as I am in full agreement with you as already mentioned about facilitating Palmar.

You could look into what I said about Koshi, especially his reasoning on me and his bad +1 of Dandel's read on Oats.

Other than that? I dunno.
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#1585
On April 04 2014 10:04 sandroba wrote:
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On April 04 2014 10:01 marvellosity wrote:
I bolded the whole thing because you mention something that I brought up alone, and then called me useless.

It's just fantastic.

Alright man, let's just do some work then. Sorry if I misrepresented you but I'm just not seeing the town flame in you yet.

It's because I look really emotionally uninvested, which I currently am. I won't bore you with the details.
for reference:
On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.

On April 03 2014 23:13 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.


The fact that you think it's weird that i open in a trollish nature in a game to antagonise a player is weird marv. Why are you so weird?

I'm not weird, I'm trying to stamp out your shit because I think you'll listen to me whereas Palmar will not. There's enough trolly crap in this game without needing you (someone actually vaguely capable) to join in also.
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#1586
As an addendum to the last quote, Holyflare did not listen to me and continued
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April 04 2014 01:12 GMT
#1589
On April 04 2014 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:
##unvote
##vote Dandel Ion

Did I miss where kita explained this?
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April 04 2014 01:13 GMT
#1591
I think Dandel is really obviously town.

Also just looking at Holy, I totally forgot he was passively calling me mafia. Would lynch 100% for that alone.
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April 04 2014 01:15 GMT
#1595
you have my sword! (sorry BH, sandroba has a better sheath)

##unvote
##Vote: holyflare
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April 04 2014 01:15 GMT
#1597
kita: dandel explainy-votey-now-y
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April 04 2014 01:18 GMT
#1603
On April 04 2014 10:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 04 2014 10:13 marvellosity wrote:
I think Dandel is really obviously town.

Also just looking at Holy, I totally forgot he was passively calling me mafia. Would lynch 100% for that alone.

Can I ask why re: Dandel?
Want to see if your reasoning meshes with mine at all.
I'm liking this thing you and sandroba have going (and I have him as town at the very least) so I won't attempt to interfere beyond this.

He's simply way more active than he normally is as mafia. And active in a way where he is actually commenting on reads.

He actually seemed to believe his Oats stuff. He quizzed jat on not looking townie, argued with me genuinely about Paperscraps, seems to think Djo was scummier than the dudes I mentioned at the time, again no real point in actually talking about reads if he is mafia.
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April 04 2014 01:19 GMT
#1604
On April 04 2014 10:16 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 04 2014 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
kita: dandel explainy-votey-now-y


I like to go to bed in a good mood.

I like to go to bed feeling good about town-kita (because that happens every game we play, it really does). Hmm this isn't convincing. Please just explain?
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April 04 2014 01:20 GMT
#1605
On April 04 2014 10:18 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 04 2014 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Maybe my bad feels on you will go away...it is still early marvgame.
What's the popular wagon right now? Paperscraps?
What are people jumping on him for exactly? I think something is not right in hurr.

Keirathi, if you get an item from me, what will you do with it?

Rofl how the fuck am I supposed to answer that without knowing what the item is, you goob?

For relevance sake, the only time I've ever gotten an item, I cleared a very bad looking mislynch candidate, correctly identified who gave me the item and cleared him, and led town to victory.

*Note: last part may be a bit of a stretch. We did win, and I was a big part of it, but I wouldn't actually say I carried or anything.

I was going to call you confirmed town for exaggerating your own importance until you included the disclaimer
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April 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#1608
On April 04 2014 10:21 iamperfection wrote:
Marv do you think bh is town? And if so why in the hell?

Possibly. Don't really know. Don't understand the 2nd question.
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April 04 2014 01:23 GMT
#1610
ikr, dem freebies don't come along very often.
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April 04 2014 01:25 GMT
#1614
On April 04 2014 10:24 iamperfection wrote:
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On April 04 2014 10:22 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:21 iamperfection wrote:
Marv do you think bh is town? And if so why in the hell?

Possibly. Don't really know. Don't understand the 2nd question.

Well I thought the slot was scum with balla and then bh entered unimpressively in my view and you go all willy nilly with him. Confuses me.

Because I thought paper's post was legit-weak. And I explained why. And BH happened to vote him also. There isn't anything more to it than that.
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April 04 2014 01:27 GMT
#1616
sorry Wave, I gave the *actual* reasons that Dandel was town. Terrible I know.

Next time I'll be sure to invent kooky reasons to keep you happy.
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April 04 2014 01:30 GMT
#1624
On April 04 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 04 2014 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
sorry Wave, I gave the *actual* reasons that Dandel was town. Terrible I know.

Next time I'll be sure to invent kooky reasons to keep you happy.

That's not what I mean.
I mean often, considering you're better than me at this game and whatnot (/egostroke), you come up with differing (and often better) reasons why someone is of a certain alignment than I do, or come up with something that opens my eyes. A revelation if you will.

Haven't gotten much of that from you this game, that's all. It just means your reasoning for Dandel's towniness isn't alignment indicative to me in your case.

Right, ok. It shouldn't be, no.
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#1626
what he said ^
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April 04 2014 01:33 GMT
#1630
you'd hate my spreadsheet Wave. It's so superficial. It does, however, contain the words "fuck", "ass", "weirdo", and "bathtub"
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April 04 2014 01:43 GMT
#1637
On April 04 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 10:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
sorry Wave, I gave the *actual* reasons that Dandel was town. Terrible I know.

Next time I'll be sure to invent kooky reasons to keep you happy.

That's not what I mean.
I mean often, considering you're better than me at this game and whatnot (/egostroke), you come up with differing (and often better) reasons why someone is of a certain alignment than I do, or come up with something that opens my eyes. A revelation if you will.

Haven't gotten much of that from you this game, that's all. It just means your reasoning for Dandel's towniness isn't alignment indicative to me in your case.

What do you expect it's not like I'm hard to read or it takes effort or anything like that...

Eh, I figure one of these days mebbe you'll do something as scum.
How many people jumped on you for that first post of yours though?

three I think, but I don't see how that's relevant.

I just randomly thought about it. Who were those people? You don't think it's relevant if people attacked you for your obvious whatever-it-was post?

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On April 04 2014 10:33 marvellosity wrote:
you'd hate my spreadsheet Wave. It's so superficial. It does, however, contain the words "fuck", "ass", "weirdo", and "bathtub"

You know very well that doesn't sound like something I'd hate.
In fact, now I think I'd like a sample. How about 'weirdo,' and 'bathtub?'

weirdo is down next to yamato. it is his only comment. bathtub for amiko's "i was reading the thread in the bath" defence to my accusation of posting later after reading the thread. on that note, to sleep!
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April 04 2014 01:45 GMT
#1641
weirdo and ass were full descriptions. the other two are part of a very slightly longer comment.

"bad boy" is another standalone comment.
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April 04 2014 08:53 GMT
#1795
On April 04 2014 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
So I read iamp's filter. Not so sure he's town anymore and would lynch with Foolishness pending reading Holyflare's filter. I'm sheeping today boys, show me ur cases.

no, there is 0% chance we lynch iamperfection today.
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April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1799
On April 04 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare bro. I can kill the marv. But in the most antitown way possible.

if you do this, you are directly claiming mafia.
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April 04 2014 08:56 GMT
#1804
On April 04 2014 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
marv is sheeping sandro on a me lynch, someone he didn't want to lynch straight away in the past few games, someone who can obviously be read as town if i post more because what? i was trolling around with palmar?

i've openly trolled the start of almost all of the past few games and marv knows that but only in this game has marv even bothered to comment about it and used it against me! he neglects to read anything else i've said too and only brings me up again when someone shows interest in my lynch

The very simple fact is that it feels totally different, hence why I brought it up more than once. That's on you, not me.
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April 04 2014 09:02 GMT
#1808
yamato is a shit read.

And I did continue later asking why you were still pushing the Robik thing. Normally I don't ask or say any of this stuff to you because you don't seem wilfully bad like here, even if you say you're normally trolly. 'snot the same.
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April 04 2014 09:21 GMT
#1812
On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote:
If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played.

I blame you for this.

Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is.

I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one.
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April 04 2014 09:24 GMT
#1814
Amazingly not.

Palmar-rayn-Koshi-Holyflare are in that category

rayn is excused for being town. That leaves me 3 to play with.
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April 04 2014 09:27 GMT
#1815
syllogism: can you pitch your austin thing to me in full please? It's actually not rare for austin at all to kinda bumble through day 1 pointlessly as town either, and I have suspected him for it 100 times in the past. What else?
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April 04 2014 09:28 GMT
#1817
It's not me. I'm basically just gloating to myself at your inferiority right now.
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April 04 2014 09:30 GMT
#1820
On April 04 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote:
If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played.

I blame you for this.

Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is.

I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one.



everyone: "marv is really different this game"
marv: "i'm not emotionally invested so that's why"
marv: "but you totes shoulda known that so people who called me scum are scummy"

that's not why koshi called me mafia.

koshi called me mafia because i have a big filter and i cannot have a big filter as mafia therefore i am mafia.
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April 04 2014 09:31 GMT
#1823
On April 04 2014 18:30 Koshi wrote:
Do you remember that time you told me if I was scum and people were on to me and I said wtf do I do now and you told me: "Koshi just tell them they are being silly and ignore them". Are you doing that now marv? Because you are not talking to me. You are just putting me aside.

Anyway. I have reached out to me. I am going to rip you unless something happens within 3 hours.

Please do it now. On your head be it - I will never listen to you in any game ever again if I just happen to flip town. You have been warned.
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April 04 2014 09:32 GMT
#1825
On April 04 2014 18:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote:
If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played.

I blame you for this.

Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is.

I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one.



everyone: "marv is really different this game"
marv: "i'm not emotionally invested so that's why"
marv: "but you totes shoulda known that so people who called me scum are scummy"

that's not why koshi called me mafia.

koshi called me mafia because i have a big filter and i cannot have a big filter as mafia therefore i am mafia.


yes but i did not and i only called you mafia at the start because you were different so picking me over koshi was super weird

It isn't weird at all, and you're both scummy, and what sandroba said was correct, and I've already explained this morning how i obviously felt your posting was worse than usual as i brought it up a couple of times yesterday already. pls read.
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April 04 2014 09:33 GMT
#1828
What you're saying is - why hasn't marv caught mafia after 24 hours?

Which is sadly the situation I find myself in. Because practically everything I've said has either been good or correct, and if not, at least understandable.
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April 04 2014 09:34 GMT
#1829
On April 04 2014 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:31 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:30 Koshi wrote:
Do you remember that time you told me if I was scum and people were on to me and I said wtf do I do now and you told me: "Koshi just tell them they are being silly and ignore them". Are you doing that now marv? Because you are not talking to me. You are just putting me aside.

Anyway. I have reached out to me. I am going to rip you unless something happens within 3 hours.

Please do it now. On your head be it - I will never listen to you in any game ever again if I just happen to flip town. You have been warned.

Oki. I will do it. Still 3 hours from now though.
But it has been decided.

No, do it now.
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April 04 2014 09:38 GMT
#1831
Find me mafia then, Holy.

hint: yamato is not it
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April 04 2014 09:40 GMT
#1834
On April 04 2014 17:28 syllogism wrote:
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On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS?

This looks strange given that Oats is/was one of your strongest town reads. What were you hoping to gain from asking this question?

Robik: As I understand it, you are a bit more familiar with tehpoofter's play. He understandably was fixated on you early on, but hasn't really been doing anything since then besides asking, from my perspective, unfocused questions. On the other hand, he seems carefree; what do you think?

If this is true, which I've not checked, this is a pretty legit question.
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April 04 2014 09:42 GMT
#1835
Poofter is semi-obsessed with Oats actually. I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
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April 04 2014 09:48 GMT
#1836
On April 04 2014 00:21 Djodref wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:09 syllogism wrote:
Djodref you have been around, finished your read yet?


Yeah but I skimmed really quickly first. I would like to read it again in detail after a while.
Do you have any recommendation of things I should pay attention to ?
A few remarks I can make at the moment
Robik is really catching a lot of attention with his play, I don't see how it could be beneficial for scum to play in such a confrontational way, especially in a 30 players like this. I'm saying this because If I was scum here, I would just try to lay low.
With this same approach in mind, I don't think Balla is scum as well with his attempt to random lynch paper scrap. Such moves are sure to bring some attention.
I don't take Palmar seriously at the moment, so he has done nothing alignment indicative for me yet.
I also give you townie points because you advice Robik to change his play so we can have a better town atmosphere.
That's all I have on the top of my mind

Would this accurately describe you so far Djodref?
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April 04 2014 10:04 GMT
#1838
Because you called me mafia, all your reads have been bad, and what I've already explained about how you were stoking the fires way more than necessary.

We've been through this, there's little point asking me the same question over and over.

Re: Paperscraps: Do you agree/disagree with this?
On April 04 2014 10:02 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'm willing to roll with that. Paperscraps is likely non mafia because doing random shit like typing backwards is not a mafia tell and he voluntarily disclosed information about him and VE being somehow connect and still being suspicious of VE which is a town tell. Also his filter is one page, let the dude play some more freely before we wagon up on him and he becomes all defensive and now you can't tell shit about his alignment.
There are probably better people to focus who have a larger filter but I haven't started filter diving yet. Do you have any ideas on who to start with?

Also I'd like Robik + whoever else knows Paperscraps to talk about him a little; both sandroba and syllogism indicated that Paper roleplaying this stuff (or continuing to do so) is unnecessary as mafia, but Robik said it's the kinda shizzle maf-Paperscaps would do. Obviously this is fairly major sticking point.
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April 04 2014 10:15 GMT
#1842
On April 04 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
va and ve so annoying to read together ~_~

If you call VE "the sexy bearded one" it will be easier to distinguish.

I actually agree that the sexy bearded one's vote on VA is a little weak - he's going to need to get 16 votes if he really passionately believes in that case. But the sexy bearded one seemed so cheerful at the start of the game :x
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April 04 2014 10:16 GMT
#1844
On April 04 2014 19:15 Holyflare wrote:
also ve makes this read:

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp, JAT and VE. Killing town too, maybe Wave, maybe sandroba. Maybe not sandroba. I'll lynch any lurker, including myself. Any questions? No? Good, everyone GO.


iamp and jat are way way low down on my reads at that point in time and sandroba had only posted a few times so this list is pretty weird

Actually I liked this post. jat was the only questionable one to me at the time and still I could maybe understand.
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April 04 2014 10:25 GMT
#1846
what about it? lol

I don't see why a town VE cannot make those posts? Can you really tell me otherwise?
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April 04 2014 10:26 GMT
#1848
btw I have my own QT. But I am alone in it. It makes me sad.
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April 04 2014 10:27 GMT
#1849
On April 04 2014 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 04 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:
what about it? lol

I don't see why a town VE cannot make those posts? Can you really tell me otherwise?


because i don't think ve would have a scum read on a person for not posting any game relevant content and then drop it because that person continues doing no game relevant content straight away 1 post after he scum read him.

Seems more likely he just decided to drop it, why even bother dropping it like that as mafia?
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April 04 2014 10:28 GMT
#1850
how do you feel about jat, btw?
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April 04 2014 10:31 GMT
#1854
On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS?

I'm flitting back to this again, as per syllogism's earlier question and my mention of it above. He calls Wave town also, because he finds it unlikely that he'd do the item thing as mafia.

So why is poofy asking questions about his townreads? To what end?
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April 04 2014 10:32 GMT
#1855
On April 04 2014 19:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
I could make a QT for myself and talk to myself it would make me feel like a cool kid too.

I was actually invited to the QT last night. And now whoever invited me decided not to talk.

Terribly poor form.
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April 04 2014 10:34 GMT
#1859
mm. jat kinda sliding by and it makes me a bit sad. I don't know if I want to lynch him for that though.
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April 04 2014 10:36 GMT
#1861
There was a game I don't remember where it seemed jat did nothing all day 1 and he turned up town there. I think he gets stronger with time if he is town.
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April 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#1864
I could probably go search. Let's see.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 10:39 GMT
#1866
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.
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April 04 2014 11:00 GMT
#1872
Do you think you're going to rally a majority on to Robik?
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April 04 2014 11:02 GMT
#1875
On April 04 2014 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think you're going to rally a majority on to Robik?

Further to this, Poofter, you claim Robik is uninterested in the thread

And yet you have outstanding questions directed to you from other people in the thread that you've seemingly missed yourself.
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April 04 2014 11:02 GMT
#1876
On April 04 2014 20:01 Holyflare wrote:
what game did robik just play scum in?

newbie whatever-number-it-is
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April 04 2014 11:04 GMT
#1879
maybe i shouldn't lynch you holy.

what do you think about that?
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:05 GMT
#1880
On April 04 2014 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
My role is anti-town to clarify. and narcissistic. I wasn't going to get night killed anyway so I dont see any harm in revealing this


Va is not posting in the thread, it has nothing to do with readin the thread. Why is he only posting in the qt about reada ans such? Your defence is completely wrong holyflare.

Why does scumVA do this and townVA cannot?
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:07 GMT
#1882
ok maybe I won't then.

I wonder if poofter is really gonna do this drop-a-case-and-respond-to-nothing-else-in-the-thread thing.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:12 GMT
#1891
On April 04 2014 20:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think you're going to rally a majority on to Robik?

Further to this, Poofter, you claim Robik is uninterested in the thread

And yet you have outstanding questions directed to you from other people in the thread that you've seemingly missed yourself.


I think that he is around and able to be interested but is not putting effort into the game. I read that as scummy.

I am not going to leave out information even if I can't get a majority on my preferred lynch I want my case out there so it can be seen. I would never know if I could get a majority to rally behind it if I don't present it. Why would it be bad for me to bring up a case on anyone at this point that I find scummy? I'm showing there is a max 4 votes on anyone atm so looks like we don't have anything remotely close to a majority atm. So I am going to say that YEs I most definitely could get a majority on scumRobik.

The stuff you missed was asking why you were repeatedly questioning people about your townreads
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:13 GMT
#1893
On April 04 2014 20:12 Palmar wrote:
cryptic message:

For me only two remain: Cor 13:13

Which have you lost?
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:14 GMT
#1896
On April 04 2014 20:14 Koshi wrote:
Can we talk radiation?
I think button pressing will do radiation up. Bad for town? I think so.

That will definitely help us get a majority on a mafia, thanks koshi
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April 04 2014 11:17 GMT
#1902
On April 04 2014 20:16 Palmar wrote:
I like how poofter has me as town for an associative read on robik.

wonderful isn't it
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April 04 2014 11:18 GMT
#1907
Well I am blind, my apologies.
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April 04 2014 11:19 GMT
#1909
if only you had the talent to do so, koshi
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April 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#1911
Poofter, could you talk about this Paperscraps writing-his-posts-backwards thing? What does it mean?
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:29 GMT
#1925
sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscraps

which was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions
On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie

JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.

Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.

Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.

hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.

I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.

On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote:
@exarezee

If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.

I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.

You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though.

There's actual insight and thought here.

This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:30 GMT
#1927
I think Paperscraps is a great lynch.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:30 GMT
#1928
##Unvote
##Vote: Paperscraps
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:32 GMT
#1932
On April 04 2014 20:31 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Palmer... a post like that where you have basically everyone listed... I would expect that type of post from Robik by now but he would have maybe 15 names tops on his list instead of the whole town. You played Titanic with me Palmer what makes me scum this game as opposed to this game? What gave you that scum read?


@marv were there any other questions I missed? I think there was one from amiko I needed to look at but I closed the tab with the quote I had saved.

Robik is pretty likely to be town. Lynch Paper with me instead, it's more fun.
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April 04 2014 11:33 GMT
#1933
On April 04 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
I think Paperscraps is a great lynch.


so you don't agree with the qt/ve thing?

I do agree with it. But he still mafia. Probably.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:35 GMT
#1937
On April 04 2014 20:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Year old meta marv? For shame.
Also Tehpoofter i thought it was pretty clear I didn't add you to he list because I didn't trust you, but I suppose that May not matter now either way. Could work out in everyone's best interests.
When not phoneposting you will be added.

A player does not suddenly lose all ability to be insightful and make thoughtful posts just because some time has passed. Don't be so blind.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 11:47 GMT
#1941
On April 04 2014 20:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv not sure I trust you tbh. I read robik as mafia and you were defending him pretty hard during the battle that was going on. Are you the type of player that would hard defend a scummate like that?

more importantly do other people think that Marv and Robik are likely to be connected as scummates, I know nothing of marv's play so outside input is encouraged. (even if you disagree with me that robik is scum would marv d-up hard day with a teammate?)

I've never hard-defended a team-mate (anyone who knows me will verify) and Robik is not mafia.
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April 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#1943
yes because i'd definitely lie about that when any other player in the game could simply tell me i was wrong.

that would definitely make sense.
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April 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#1944
Also I am not wrong on Robik.
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April 04 2014 12:04 GMT
#1946
I've observed or played in every game that Robik has played on TL Mafia.
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April 04 2014 12:13 GMT
#1948
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

On April 04 2014 10:46 Paperscraps wrote:
.accurate too not probably so ,baseline a as meta mafia video using is This .neutral are far so posts his ,Tehpoofter reading scum anyone for Also

.moment the at reprieve a warrant to Enough .genuine somewhat seemed me against attack his but ,forum a on "heated" or "mad" being fake to easier is it know I .now for BlazingHand off back all can We

.him by posts more to forward Looking .game this individual headed level ,smart a like seems Sandroba

gg
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April 04 2014 12:23 GMT
#1951
I've no idea, Poof :D Whether you did or not, your posting can't possibly be neutral given he felt strongly enough about it beforehand to colour you green.

If your posting was somehow scummy in the interim, that still doesn't make you neutral, that makes you both good and bad. It's weak bullshittery.

Notice how he cheapens his read in the 2nd quote by relating it to video mafia and saying the neutral read on you is weak. It's like he totally forgot he gave you a good townread beforehand.

Probably because he's just making stuff up.
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April 04 2014 12:27 GMT
#1953
we're still not lynching Robik tomorrow. Sorry buddy.
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April 04 2014 12:31 GMT
#1954
btw the fact it was so hard to find that inconsistency goes to show how mafia-favoured his writing-backwards thing actually is.
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April 04 2014 12:36 GMT
#1957
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.

If you disagree with the points I've put forwards, say why. Don't just go "bleh", that helps no-one and nothing.
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April 04 2014 12:40 GMT
#1959
On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

HOlyflare on this.
Amiko on this
BH on this.

Dude how is this not sketchy?
And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.

Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why.
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April 04 2014 12:43 GMT
#1963
On April 04 2014 21:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

HOlyflare on this.
Amiko on this
BH on this.

Dude how is this not sketchy?
And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.

Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why.

How has anything VA done townie?

VA in shit-tonne of his games never does anything townie as town. In fact he's known as being more "townie" and reasonable as mafia. You know this.

Claiming, unnecessarily, an anti-town role is actually somewhat townie. But no, apart from that he hasn't done anything townie. Sadly this does not make him mafia. You know this too.
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April 04 2014 12:53 GMT
#1968
On April 04 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
Well I am not doing anything special today.

you're right, you really aren't.
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April 04 2014 12:57 GMT
#1971
On April 04 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

HOlyflare on this.
Amiko on this
BH on this.

Dude how is this not sketchy?
And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.


So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now?

You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time?

Why are you being so weird oats?

Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare?
And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum.


I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role?

What, that its townie rather than absolutely fucking claiming scum?

Duuuude.. No.

Why is it claiming scum? Explain to me very simply.
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April 04 2014 13:05 GMT
#1979
On April 04 2014 21:58 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:29 marvellosity wrote:
sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscraps

which was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions
On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie

JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.

Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.

Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.

hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.

I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.

On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote:
@exarezee

If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.

I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.

You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though.

There's actual insight and thought here.

This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers.

It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"?

Without spending my time looking at a lot of austin filters, no. I've just played a lot of games with him and for quite a long time it became a tradition that I would be suspicious of him on D1 for not doing anything. I guess Rockband springs to mind? And although austin is a pretty experienced player, he still got lynched as town on Day 2 of PyP:LoL with only a 4 page filter.
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April 04 2014 13:07 GMT
#1983
On April 04 2014 22:05 Palmar wrote:
I will not vote townbuddy scrapspaper

your services are no longer required.
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April 04 2014 13:09 GMT
#1985
On April 04 2014 22:08 Palmar wrote:
why would mafia write backwards? explain me this.

Firstly, all the players who know Paperscraps have said it's the sort of thing he would do as either alignment.
Secondly,
On April 04 2014 21:31 marvellosity wrote:
btw the fact it was so hard to find that inconsistency goes to show how mafia-favoured his writing-backwards thing actually is.

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April 04 2014 13:10 GMT
#1987
Read his content forwards, and it's just terrible. In fact the only reason you are defending him is that he is writing backwards. There's your reason right there.
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April 04 2014 13:13 GMT
#1989
How about you stop clogging the thread attacking obv-town Dandel, Holy?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:15 GMT
#1991
The people you are targeting this game really do make me sad about you, Holy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:15 GMT
#1994
I already have, it's in my filter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:16 GMT
#1996
because i thought he may be town. Still dunno tbh.

Paperscraps stuff pretty damning though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 04 2014 13:20 GMT
#2001
Hopeless1der - don't think I haven't noticed you not playing the game at all. Hoppity hop now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:20 GMT
#2002
On April 04 2014 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
so... that's how scum love to get away with appearing town by fitting in and contributing by giving their "reads" on people but never pushing anything in the fear of looking bad on a town flip or if they are wrong

Read any Dandel mafia game and then just shut up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:23 GMT
#2008
On April 03 2014 13:28 Killing wrote:
I'm going to sleep. See you tommorow boys.

You didn't appear all day the next day, and you seemed shit-scared to post as mafia in Foundation.

Me and others gave you a townread for having a different tone than in that game, but running away from the thread erodes that. Plz play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:25 GMT
#2012
On April 04 2014 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

HOlyflare on this.
Amiko on this
BH on this.

Dude how is this not sketchy?
And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.


So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now?

You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time?

Why are you being so weird oats?

Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare?
And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum.


I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role?

What, that its townie rather than absolutely fucking claiming scum?

Duuuude.. No.

Why is it claiming scum? Explain to me very simply.

Anti-town role = scum role.
3p = scum in this argument.

No, roles can be anti-town and the player in question has a town alignment. Kurumi committed seppuku in some game because he believed his role was anti-town, he claimed so, and he was town. Role != alignment, esp. in super funky themed games.

Much easier if he is actually mafia to simply not claim that he has an anti-town role. There's nothing else to say on this discussion.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:25 GMT
#2014
On April 04 2014 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
sheeping sandroba > sheeping marv

actually in games sand & I have been town together, my day 1 reads have been superior
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:27 GMT
#2018
On April 04 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
I like Marv's case because Marv is town and he is a pretty smart dude. I will sheep him.

When did you decide this?
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 13:29 GMT
#2023
On April 04 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
Your good as scum Marv but you ain't that good.

You're right.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:31 GMT
#2027
Dandel, could you give me a couple of reasons why you think gumshoe is mafia? I'm possibly interested.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 13:35 GMT
#2028
gumshoe's filter tells me this:

A lot of his early tone and attitude read quite townie to me. But he picks on two easy targets in Dandel and LSB. Easy, obvious targets to jump on. Meanwhile he asks someone why they are suspicious of rayn, when normally gumshoe is v suspicious of rayn. There is none of gumshoe's usual paranoia about prolific, influential players. And the 2nd half of his filter is all a funky self-defence.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 13:39 GMT
#2030
On April 04 2014 22:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:35 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe's filter tells me this:

A lot of his early tone and attitude read quite townie to me. But he picks on two easy targets in Dandel and LSB. Easy, obvious targets to jump on. Meanwhile he asks someone why they are suspicious of rayn, when normally gumshoe is v suspicious of rayn. There is none of gumshoe's usual paranoia about prolific, influential players. And the 2nd half of his filter is all a funky self-defence.

I felt he was pretty open last night after I called him out.

I don't see anything he couldn't post as mafia. Also I just read the freakiest thing that i hadn't noticed before.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 13:43 GMT
#2036
On April 04 2014 22:40 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:37 iamperfection wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:35 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe's filter tells me this:

A lot of his early tone and attitude read quite townie to me. But he picks on two easy targets in Dandel and LSB. Easy, obvious targets to jump on. Meanwhile he asks someone why they are suspicious of rayn, when normally gumshoe is v suspicious of rayn. There is none of gumshoe's usual paranoia about prolific, influential players. And the 2nd half of his filter is all a funky self-defence.

I felt he was pretty open last night after I called him out.

I don't see anything he couldn't post as mafia. Also I just read the freakiest thing that i hadn't noticed before.

What

Nothing alignment indicative, but
On April 04 2014 13:50 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 13:42 iamperfection wrote:
On April 04 2014 13:37 gumshoe wrote:
Like, people are finding how I play the game scummy, I am sorry about that, I am an inherently lazy person. Which is why I sometimes dont play at all if a game doesn't catch my interest / : when I'm scum though (and still interested in playing) I try to shore up those flaws as much as I can. I do not rush my responses, knowing town will jump on everything I say like a pack of blood hounds.

Iamp do you agree with Ve's read on Vayne? Why do you think he suspects him?


Vayne is a lurker could be scum could be town who knows
I have no idea you would seem to be more qualified to answer. What is going on in there?


Sure, I dont mind shedding some light, cats out of the bag anyways.

I came in and proposed we not use our names(we were warned scum might be part of our group, was worried about a snipe cause I assumed we were all power roles together, I understand there are a lot of powers this game but saw no reason not to play it safe), so we called ourselves our titles, conquest war death and famine.

Vayne came in and called himself death, enter Ve who is the actual death, Vayne admits he was trolling and Ve says he has no issue with that. He does question why Vayne is lurking in thread though. Thats it for the qt, so was wondering how Ve came to the conclusion that Vayne is scum when very little has happened between them since Ve's question (which vayne did not answer)

One other thing, Vayne called me out as gumshoe right away, was not sure how I felt about that given he was told scum might be in our qt and he knew we were all likely blues / :

We all ended up claiming our names after that, theres one more horse men but Im not going to out him, he can make that choice himself, he wasnt really part of the convo anyways.

I can see how Vayne might be scum, he hasnt done much at all for town and his actions in qt were iffy. Was just curios what Ve had on him.

The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. Anyways in my QT, I am still alone, and because I got bored, I started writing a little story to myself. And one of the horsemen of the apocalypse in there. I'm kinda weirded out.


Chapter 2
the wind rushes through my hair as I flee this god-forsaken place. The fires of hell burn around me; the pillars of civilization are crashing down

this land, that was once so bountiful, sits ablaze in righteous anger, the beautiful fields turned to dust

behind me, the dark horseman of war straddles his fiery steed, eyes dark and red with malicious anger. What will become of me? The world is sundered; where shall I go now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:44 GMT
#2037
On April 04 2014 22:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


This is a straight up lie/misinterpretation because he's talking about my first post, which funnily enough was the only one that wasn't supposed to accomplish that!
Still softpushes me for it.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 01:45 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like LSb so far, he has 7 posts but all of them are useless, like hes trying to drag out the portion of the game that does nothing for town. As in hes scummy for effort thats not at all directed at town reads or scum hunting / :

calls people out for not scumhunting
doesn't scumhunt himself


buddies austin


his whole laziness "defense" was a bunch of horseshit, follows up with horseshit about how him lurking makes him town or w/e he was trying to do there.


He puts a lot of effort into establishing himself as lazy and useless (half his posts are purely about that), which means he's hyper defensive, and it also shows that he's not too lazy to defend himself, just to do other things.

The alignment that is most likely to just defend themselves and not do anything else is _


I'm pretty sure there was something else i noticed yesterday but i cant find it right now :/
I'll post it when/if i remember

Yes, this is fine, basically what I dragged out too. Hmm. Anyone else have any thoughts on this dude?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 13:45 GMT
#2039
On April 04 2014 22:44 iamperfection wrote:
Do you have any indication that you could add people to your qt Marv' I would totally like to join.

I certainly cannot. The QT owner may be able to, but as he hasn't posted, then I am in the dark.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:00 GMT
#2063
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

So how do you view Holyflare?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:01 GMT
#2066
On April 04 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well people is plural, you have to have at least 1 more.

Why arent you willing to commit to a read on Foolishness Iamp? He called you scum man, you really dont know whether hes town or scum?

Do you know whether he is town or scum? Assuming iamp is town, how does Foolishness accusing iamp mean that iamp magically knows Foolish's alignment?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:02 GMT
#2068
On April 04 2014 23:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

So how do you view Holyflare?

No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless.

Holyflare may or may not remain sandro's preferred lynch, so I suggest you try to find an idea.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:08 GMT
#2076
On April 04 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well people is plural, you have to have at least 1 more.

Why arent you willing to commit to a read on Foolishness Iamp? He called you scum man, you really dont know whether hes town or scum?

Do you know whether he is town or scum? Assuming iamp is town, how does Foolishness accusing iamp mean that iamp magically knows Foolish's alignment?

Well generally when someone calls you scum you try and find out his alignment more than other people who dont mention you at all. Its a psychology thing.

How do you find out someone's alignment who hardly ever posts and isn't in the thread at the same time as you? What do you expect iamp to do exactly?
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:09 GMT
#2079
On April 04 2014 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv, are you still townreading Killing? People said he was town because of his activity and carefree nature in contrast to his scumplay in foundation where he was to scared to post. Well...

My filter really is amazing
On April 04 2014 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 13:28 Killing wrote:
I'm going to sleep. See you tommorow boys.

You didn't appear all day the next day, and you seemed shit-scared to post as mafia in Foundation.

Me and others gave you a townread for having a different tone than in that game, but running away from the thread erodes that. Plz play.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:10 GMT
#2081
It happened less than an hour ago, so how you missed it on your catchup of the thread is anyone's guess.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:12 GMT
#2084
On April 04 2014 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:08 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well people is plural, you have to have at least 1 more.

Why arent you willing to commit to a read on Foolishness Iamp? He called you scum man, you really dont know whether hes town or scum?

Do you know whether he is town or scum? Assuming iamp is town, how does Foolishness accusing iamp mean that iamp magically knows Foolish's alignment?

Well generally when someone calls you scum you try and find out his alignment more than other people who dont mention you at all. Its a psychology thing.

How do you find out someone's alignment who hardly ever posts and isn't in the thread at the same time as you? What do you expect iamp to do exactly?

I expect Iamp to science. He won the quiz where we had to guess alignments off a single post, why not the same here? Foolishness has 2 posts, man even double.

So you want him to guess. Wonderful.

Foolishness may have to be dealt with with roles.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:18 GMT
#2090
On April 04 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:
But your filters tend to be ugly and annoying to read.

ahahaha
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#2095
There's like zero chance we kill iamp today, it's a wasted vote.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:28 GMT
#2098
The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances:

rayn/Dandel/syllogism/iamp/IAmRobik/sandroba/jat*

*jat purely because he made me lol re: holy's filter, not because i find him particularly townie.

syllogism doesn't look amazingly townie but i don't think he's as useless as people are suggesting and there's no way i take that risk on day 1 based on what i've seen.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#2101
too irritating
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:32 GMT
#2105
On April 04 2014 23:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
There's like zero chance we kill iamp today, it's a wasted vote.


Why not?

Does his suggestion that balla was trying to look good not seem terrible to you?

A little but at the same time I understand it. I don't know how to explain. I said at the time "like Prome in LX", because he did similar - proposing RNG, not really doing anything about it, flipped scum.

At the same time iamp finds it v hard as mafia to have the consistent flippancy that he's had this game. He's much meeker as mafia. He's not a total lock as town but I find it v unlikely he is mafia right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:42 GMT
#2117
On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you waiting on Koshi for exactly? Also read on Paperscraps pls.


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

You missed the strongest point, somehow.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 14:44 GMT
#2120
On April 04 2014 23:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you waiting on Koshi for exactly? Also read on Paperscraps pls.


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

You missed the strongest point, somehow.


Change on read town read to null? Not a huge deal to me.

And yet a townie iamp who makes a potentially suspect comment on RNG is the best lynch?

ok kita.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:47 GMT
#2123
On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you waiting on Koshi for exactly? Also read on Paperscraps pls.


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

This looks like the only reasoning you can muster for Paper to be town, yet pretty evidently his lynch choices have been the ones lagging behind who town is going after at the time (Balla/BH -> me). Anything else?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:51 GMT
#2126
On April 04 2014 23:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you waiting on Koshi for exactly? Also read on Paperscraps pls.


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

This looks like the only reasoning you can muster for Paper to be town, yet pretty evidently his lynch choices have been the ones lagging behind who town is going after at the time (Balla/BH -> me). Anything else?


Nope, I don't have a town read on him. I don't find the things that you're pointing out as obvious mafia as you apparently do.

Where are you at on amiko?

I paid less attention to him after the bathtub defence. Also he wants to lynch Paperscraps, so he's ok in my book.

His posting isn't very inspiring though.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:53 GMT
#2129
On April 04 2014 23:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you waiting on Koshi for exactly? Also read on Paperscraps pls.


More waiting on content from Koshi. Spooked enough by role talk not to pursue d1.

As for paper, I think there are better choices. Backwards nonsense doesn't say much to me. His mafia game was much more wordy, but so was his town. Read changes on BH and VE change, when it they seemed like lynch preferences before.

I'd much prefer iamp or amiko if we have to compromise for the sake of majority.

Did you see the part where he has poofter as town then poofter as null with non of poofter's posts in between? Contradiction City? ??


Definitely inconsistent. Not as sure that the read is fake, rather than him seeing poofter as townie at the start and then 20 hours later just deciding otherwise.

The problem is, kita, is that there is zero evidence in his post that he decided otherwise based on what happened in the thread.

He uses outside-of-thread reasoning to give his neutral read, while at the same time saying the reasoning wasn't very good. That doesn't look like he changed his mind.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 14:55 GMT
#2133
basically a player he is familiar with outside-of-game he calls townie based on his posting

then later he calls him null because of his approach to the game outside of the game, while not mentioning anything in-game

it makes no sense
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 15:17 GMT
#2147
On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote:
Catastrophic vote count:

IAmRobik (0): Palmar, Tehpoofter
iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27
Holyflare (3): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77
LSB (0): VisceraEyes
Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, marvellosity, Amiko, marvellosity, Tehpoofter, Holyflare, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, iamperfection
yamato77 (1): Holyflare, LSB
kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion, Palmar
VisceraEyes (0): Palmar
VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
gumshoe (0): kitaman27
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Paperscraps, Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
marvellosity (1): Palmar, Koshi, Koshi, Paperscraps

Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi

Currently no one is set to be lynched. With 29 alive it takes 15 to reach majority.
Deadline is Saturday, Apr 05 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


Best case EU.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 04 2014 15:19 GMT
#2148
btw the other best thing about that votecount is that rayn has been erased from history, as if he never existed.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
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April 04 2014 15:20 GMT
#2149
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.
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marvellosity
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April 04 2014 15:35 GMT
#2162
syllogism, if you want to have some influence on today, I suggest you act sooner rather than later
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April 04 2014 15:42 GMT
#2166
On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.


Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper?

That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy.
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April 04 2014 15:45 GMT
#2169
On April 05 2014 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 05 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.


Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper?

That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy.


despite me pointing out the obvious flaws in that sandro case ~_~

I know, but however much you handwave it away using previous games, antagonising Robik was truly terrible, and I still think all your reads have been pretty misplaced. On the other hand I kinda fancy your reads would be less weird as mafia. Hence queasiness.
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April 04 2014 15:46 GMT
#2172
On April 05 2014 00:46 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 05 2014 00:45 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.


Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper?

That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy.


despite me pointing out the obvious flaws in that sandro case ~_~

I know, but however much you handwave it away using previous games, antagonising Robik was truly terrible, and I still think all your reads have been pretty misplaced. On the other hand I kinda fancy your reads would be less weird as mafia. Hence queasiness.


so you're saying the guy that follows his scum read to change his stance on button pressing is a good guy?

who are you referring to?
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April 04 2014 15:48 GMT
#2176
On April 05 2014 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
and i don't care if antagonising robik was terrible he was a dick and full of himself last game and i relish in the opportunity to anger those kinds of people

and you will pay for that with my suspicions, given antagonising him is clearly terrible for the thread. You signed up for that, now you gotta live with it! :>
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April 04 2014 15:50 GMT
#2179
Koshi I may cast you in my QT story. I have just stepped into the underworld.
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April 04 2014 15:51 GMT
#2183
On April 05 2014 00:50 LSB wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps
Reasoning here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=67#1323

This link reminds me that it would be swell if Keirathi could make his way to the thread and piss towniness all over my naked body.
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April 04 2014 15:52 GMT
#2186
On April 05 2014 00:51 Koshi wrote:
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On April 05 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi I may cast you in my QT story. I have just stepped into the underworld.

I don't understand this.

You will read in my QT post-game. I am writing a story because i have noone to talk to.
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April 04 2014 16:09 GMT
#2193
On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote:
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On April 04 2014 20:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv forgive me if I don't take your word for it But if some others can verify I'll definitely take it into account. I think you're wrong on Robik. So I will say I disagree strongly with you and encourage you to reread my case.


@Killing, Paperscraps (Maybe VE?) you guys play with Robik do you agree with my case? Also paper lots of heat on you atm why did you null read defend me?


Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia.

I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it.

Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post.

Not in the slightest.
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April 04 2014 16:18 GMT
#2196
the case on Paper has nothing to do with him writing backwards.

All I sought to establish with that is that it was alignment-neutral.
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April 04 2014 16:20 GMT
#2199
On April 05 2014 01:20 Killing wrote:
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On April 05 2014 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
the case on Paper has nothing to do with him writing backwards.

All I sought to establish with that is that it was alignment-neutral.


I know some people have made legitimate cases on why paperscraps is mafia, I'm just saying that people that are saying that is their strongest point are either dumb or mafia trying to get an easy lynch.

Who has suggested that as the strongest point? I don't remember anyone.
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April 04 2014 16:25 GMT
#2203
iamp is town. So if you can try to prove to me poofter is mafia, then I'm listening.
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April 04 2014 16:30 GMT
#2205
On April 05 2014 01:29 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 05 2014 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:20 Killing wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
the case on Paper has nothing to do with him writing backwards.

All I sought to establish with that is that it was alignment-neutral.


I know some people have made legitimate cases on why paperscraps is mafia, I'm just saying that people that are saying that is their strongest point are either dumb or mafia trying to get an easy lynch.

Who has suggested that as the strongest point? I don't remember anyone.


Amiko for one.

Hmmm. That is interesting.
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April 04 2014 16:32 GMT
#2206
Killing what do you think of Amiko?
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April 04 2014 16:35 GMT
#2207
On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote:
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On April 04 2014 20:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv forgive me if I don't take your word for it But if some others can verify I'll definitely take it into account. I think you're wrong on Robik. So I will say I disagree strongly with you and encourage you to reread my case.


@Killing, Paperscraps (Maybe VE?) you guys play with Robik do you agree with my case? Also paper lots of heat on you atm why did you null read defend me?


Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia.

I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it.

Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post.

You do realise he claimed that he came across an item that required him to write backwards, right? So at the very least he would be lying in order to write backwards?
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April 04 2014 16:38 GMT
#2209
well Killing seems to be missing that whole thing when he says "people are implying that his role requires it" when he specifically wrote the reasoning in the thread.
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April 04 2014 16:40 GMT
#2212
oh yes, I see what you're getting at. Quite.
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April 04 2014 16:41 GMT
#2214
On April 05 2014 01:40 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 05 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still don't get why lsb tried to be hipster and make it look like he is voting for paper because of his own reasoning? Bus maybe?


^^^^^^

I don't get your point, he said he could vote Paperscaps long ago, and now he is.
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April 04 2014 16:47 GMT
#2226
On April 05 2014 01:45 Killing wrote:
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On April 05 2014 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv forgive me if I don't take your word for it But if some others can verify I'll definitely take it into account. I think you're wrong on Robik. So I will say I disagree strongly with you and encourage you to reread my case.


@Killing, Paperscraps (Maybe VE?) you guys play with Robik do you agree with my case? Also paper lots of heat on you atm why did you null read defend me?


Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia.

I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it.

Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post.

You do realise he claimed that he came across an item that required him to write backwards, right? So at the very least he would be lying in order to write backwards?


I just re-read his filter and I missed it. I don't know what to think now. LOL WOOPS

Easy to miss someone's content when they're writing backwards, eh?
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April 04 2014 16:49 GMT
#2228
On April 05 2014 01:42 Killing wrote:
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On April 05 2014 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
iamp is town. So if you can try to prove to me poofter is mafia, then I'm listening.


Quickly on tehpoofter before I read amiko's filter, as town he's much more passionate about his reads. He's never willing to setttle for going along with the general town consensus but rather wants to push his own agenda. As mafia, he doesn't really want to rattle people and if he sees a ML, he'll just bandwagon onto it.

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On April 04 2014 21:18 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv oh snap! Did I post between those?


This read to me as like scum happy that someone fucked up. It probably reads like nothing to you guys but it seemed like it to me.

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On April 04 2014 20:41 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv not sure I trust you tbh. I read robik as mafia and you were defending him pretty hard during the battle that was going on. Are you the type of player that would hard defend a scummate like that?

more importantly do other people think that Marv and Robik are likely to be connected as scummates, I know nothing of marv's play so outside input is encouraged. (even if you disagree with me that robik is scum would marv d-up hard day with a teammate?)


He states that he thinks that marv and rob could both be scum mates. I don't think banks could ever read rob as scum in this game. It's just so obvious to me that rob isn't mafia. I think he'd be with me thinking that rob is probably town. I disagree with the majority of his meta read post.

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On April 04 2014 21:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv we will agree to disagree. Do you think I'm more scum or town based on what you've seen? You seem quite confident on Robik and I can't imagine you've played too much with him, so what about me?



I think if banks was town he'd be attacking marv harder here ( this was before marv found the paperscraps thing ) but he's kinda doing this friendly agree to disagree stuff even though he thinks they could be together. Then he votes on paperscraps and says we can lynch rob tommorow.

None of this probably makes sense to any of you but just reading through tehpoofter's filter and then comparing it with his video meta, he reads scummy to me.

I agree with you that I think he should find Robik town. I think I decided at the time that his read may be genuine but I don't feel very strongly about that. I dunno. There's bits and bobs in Poofter's filter that make me feel like he is town. Little jokes and questions.
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April 04 2014 17:38 GMT
#2252
no, not really.
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April 04 2014 17:40 GMT
#2254
too obvious.
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April 04 2014 17:44 GMT
#2257
On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote:
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On April 05 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
too obvious.


The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse?

neigh
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April 04 2014 19:20 GMT
#2314
On April 05 2014 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
Paperscraps isn't in that list, paperscraps is being voted. Foolishness doesn't comment on paperscraps. Foolishness is a shitter version of shadow foolishness. Foolishness is mafia.

a tempting read.
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April 04 2014 19:21 GMT
#2317
On April 05 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote:
Yessssssssss Foolishness is so smart. (this is solely based on the fact he reads me town)

Today we do what marv wants.

BUT NOT TOMORROW

(unless we lynch scum, then we follow marv his lead. Unless he decides to be evil again. But he wont. Probably. He will die I guess. If we lynch scum.)

I don't like how your IQ has plummeted this game Koshi.
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April 04 2014 19:22 GMT
#2318
s&b, you should agree with me because I have played with iamp 400 times and Foolish has played with iamp maybe once.

Plus I am right more often than Foolishness is right anyway.
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April 04 2014 19:24 GMT
#2320
On April 05 2014 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv can you think of any scumFoolish games where he self-imposed a posting restriction? And supposing his post-restriction is NOT self-imposed, do you think he'd participate as fervently as scum?

I cannot. Do you think Foolish is participating fervently?
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April 04 2014 19:26 GMT
#2323
On April 05 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, as fervently as I expect Foolishness to participate, sure. Do you disagree?

He's not pushing any sort of lynch. And he's not commenting on the lead vote-getter, even though he agrees apparently with kita's list that does not include him.

Which means that Foolishness is happy to see someone lynched he does not see as mafia.

How does that make you feel?
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April 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#2328
On April 05 2014 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 05 2014 04:26 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, as fervently as I expect Foolishness to participate, sure. Do you disagree?

He's not pushing any sort of lynch. And he's not commenting on the lead vote-getter, even though he agrees apparently with kita's list that does not include him.

Which means that Foolishness is happy to see someone lynched he does not see as mafia.

How does that make you feel?

I mean he seems to be pushing iamp right? I agree that it's weird that he has no comment on Paperscraps.

he's not pushing anything. although feel free to interpret that through your foolishness-lenses

remember how... keirathi brought up that in the first Foolish post that he'd called Balla town? So he finds the time to include some random-ass townread in his posts, but he does not find the time to include a read on the guy with 100 votes.

Pretty shocking play if he is town to be frank.
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April 04 2014 20:03 GMT
#2358
syllo is behaving quite oddly, especially as he essentially agreed with what I said about Paperscraps earlier.

What gives, syllo?
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April 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#2360
On April 05 2014 05:04 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 05 2014 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Question.
Is marv/Jat more fun then rayn/koshi?

Answer.
No

What is that supposed to mean?

It means Koshi is salty that we're so much better than him. I wouldn't worry about it.
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April 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#2362
On April 04 2014 21:58 syllogism wrote:
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On April 04 2014 20:29 marvellosity wrote:
sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscraps

which was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions
On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
##Vote: justanothertownie

JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.

Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.

Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.

hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.

I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.

On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote:
@exarezee

If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.

I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.

You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though.

There's actual insight and thought here.

This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers.

It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"?

If you have misgivings about this lynch, syllo, you need to explain very clearly to me why
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April 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#2364
nope

try again
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April 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#2365
alright, syllo. that's ok.
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April 04 2014 20:08 GMT
#2366
On April 05 2014 05:05 Paperscraps wrote:
.ever 1 day lynch scum Easies .by skating is and game all nothing says He .filter his read Just .iamperfection voting be all should We .bit a skim to Had .up caught Finally

I find it hilarious your accusation against iamp is so much more appropriate to you

and yet you think you're the "easiest read in the game"

go figure
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April 04 2014 20:11 GMT
#2373
On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote:
.up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You

Not according to your scum game in the database you don't
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April 04 2014 20:12 GMT
#2374
wait wait
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April 04 2014 20:15 GMT
#2378
Here is how Paperscraps, when he is town, describes his mafia play:
On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote:
I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Here is how he describes it this game:
On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote:
.up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You

The two are not the same
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April 04 2014 20:17 GMT
#2380
On April 05 2014 05:13 sandroba wrote:
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On April 04 2014 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
sheeping sandroba > sheeping marv

actually in games sand & I have been town together, my day 1 reads have been superior

I require proof of this =P

You convinced me to lynch my townread [green]bumatlarge in PYP and called my scumread JonnyLaw town on Day 1
In LIX you told me when I was mayor not to lynch prplhz
In Fruity Mafia you thought I was mafia because I wanted to lynch Vivax on Day 1[/b]
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April 04 2014 20:19 GMT
#2384
If Paperscraps can explain to me why he is 1000% less insightful than all his towngames I browsed, then I am all ears.
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April 04 2014 20:22 GMT
#2387
so what you're saying is that over time you have become exponentially more useless and less insightful?
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April 04 2014 20:28 GMT
#2392
On April 05 2014 05:26 Paperscraps wrote:
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On April 05 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 05:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.bad = thinking linear/Static .said I Like .player a as developed have I since changed as play mafia My

You think antagonizing/lecturing people will get them off your wagon?


?lynched be to about are they when do to scum for tactic smart a is that think you Do

Many mafia have done so in the past, and many will do so again. It's called being pissed off.

Now can you explain why you are so much less insightful and useful than in the games of yours I've read as town?
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April 04 2014 20:30 GMT
#2393
really paper, if you're town I definitely don't want to lynch you, but I need to have reason not to lynch you and I cannot find them right now

help me find them if you are not mafia
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April 04 2014 20:35 GMT
#2397
On April 05 2014 05:33 Paperscraps wrote:
.mind open an with me against case your revisit Just .another or today be it whether ,grave my to those taking probably will I and play my for reasons have I .here point driving main the is mafia was I if you help to inclined more be probably would I

that gives me no reason to think you are town though. cmon dude.
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April 04 2014 20:42 GMT
#2400
On April 05 2014 05:41 sandroba wrote:
Still not liking the paperscraps lynch. I'm inclined to go with tehpoofer if we can get enough support.
That exchange with him and marv where he says he doesn't trust marv, therefore won't be voting paper is already a mafia tell, making assossiative reads with imcoplete information and not even reading the content of the case. But then he goes and does a complete 180 votes paper and vanishes after marv pressures him a bit.

but why is paperscraps town at all?
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April 04 2014 20:53 GMT
#2404
On April 05 2014 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thank goodness for later deadline. Still phoneposting but I'll be back at comp before deadline.
I'm on the fence about paper, would probably be ok with poofterblynch, don't think I'd lynch amiko
Anyone else being considered?

Poking sandroba to look at gumshoe in the QT lol
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April 04 2014 20:56 GMT
#2406
it may be that paperscraps is so amazingly shit that he is town. umf
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April 04 2014 20:58 GMT
#2408
On April 05 2014 05:57 syllogism wrote:
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On April 05 2014 05:41 sandroba wrote:
Still not liking the paperscraps lynch. I'm inclined to go with tehpoofer if we can get enough support.
That exchange with him and marv where he says he doesn't trust marv, therefore won't be voting paper is already a mafia tell, making assossiative reads with imcoplete information and not even reading the content of the case. But then he goes and does a complete 180 votes paper and vanishes after marv pressures him a bit.

His initial Robik read also feels disingenuous.

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On April 03 2014 15:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
As for really non-trolly reads. I think that iamrobik might be scum. In video mafia when hes town hes really excited and throws out town reads left and right and he started to do that but then he had his mafia tell where he just quits... I think if he rolled mafia it would be a good cop out for not posting a lot as mafia to have this fight with Dand(although robert does just have a temper we will see). I also wasn't terribly swayed by his case on iamp.

This was very early into the game and the bolded doesn't actually have anything to do with this game. Could he have genuinely felt that robik had started giving out town reads, but then quit doing that at that stage of the game? That just seems like a blatant misrepresentation.

##unvote
##vote Tehpoofter

The problem I have with this Robik stuff is that he actively asked the people who know IAmRobik to comment on his case.

If Poofter is mafia making a fake case on Robik, why would he be specifically asking all the people who know Robik to comment on his case? That makes no sense to me.
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April 04 2014 20:59 GMT
#2409
And also why make a case on the most obvious-town of the people in that group?
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April 04 2014 21:08 GMT
#2419
On April 05 2014 06:07 sandroba wrote:
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On April 05 2014 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
And also why make a case on the most obvious-town of the people in that group?

Maybe most obvious to you and me, but he was surely catching a bit of flak and looked like a target that would get support by others. I don't know how much weight I should put on paperscraps read though, it seems to me that people play very different in forum games from video mafia. For one, I watched a couple episodes and I absolutely suck at finding scum.

I thought poof made his case after that had all died down though.

and again, i don't see him appealing to the ppl who know Robik best to get their reaction to his case. "I'm making a case on a townie. Townies who know him best, what do you think of my case on a townie?"
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April 04 2014 21:19 GMT
#2423
On April 05 2014 06:16 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 05 2014 06:00 sandroba wrote:
Finally caught up. My reasoning for paperscraps being town is mainly one of the first posts he made in the game, as I've said before, he was the first to reveal his QT and along with it revealed he was suspicious of VE, but didn't disclose the other 2 people in the QT he wasnt suspicious of. That points to town. The whole case on him is that he is writing backwards and change his read from town to null in 6 hours which I don't think point to mafia. People read the thread over and change their minds. Also the current defense of poofer points to town as well in this situation where he is on the chopping block.

I'll look at gumshoe next.

I actually kind of like this point.

If you're scum and leading the lynch by a wide margin, then someone comes in and gives you a town read and an out on someone else to vote for, why would you call that person town? It doesn't make much sense.

I guess if they are scum together (which i speculated a bit about earlier) it makes a bit more sense, but even then I think it would make more sense to save yourself and maybe get some towncred in the process?

I used to think so too, but the only way to ever get towncred when you're overwhelmingly leading a lynch is to poo-poo at least one alternative.
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April 04 2014 21:20 GMT
#2426
On April 05 2014 06:18 Paperscraps wrote:
.yourselves it open to have you but ,truth of door the to all you lead only can I

maybe if you didn't sheep terrible lynches repeatedly and ever said something worthwhile, we wouldn't be in this situation
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April 04 2014 21:22 GMT
#2428
On April 05 2014 06:19 sandroba wrote:
Okay I somehow missed the inconsistency marv spotted by paperscraps describing his own mafia play. Fuck I don't know anymore.
What is the case on gumshoe btw? I read his filter and there is nothing screaming scum to me. It's too hard to find stuff in this thread.

Went after easy targets only in dandel + LSB
lack of his usual paranoia regarding heavy posters (both of his last games he called rayn scum repeatedly)
only defending himself in the 2nd half of filter by calling himself lazy rather than doing anything

i'd still rather lynch paperscraps than poofter. all he's done is move from BH -> marv -> iamp as is convenient. I dunno.
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April 04 2014 21:26 GMT
#2430
On April 05 2014 06:25 Paperscraps wrote:
.do to want really you what to as bounds and leaps speak should That .do to thing right the is this yourself convince to hard to trying are you marv@

you might be right. but iamp is one of the worst lynches in the game and i'm not so hot on lynching poofter.

Got any better ideas?
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April 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#2438
iamp is town, and it's nothing to do with calling me town, it's to do with the fact i have played with him 30 times and i know what a town-iamp looks like.
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April 04 2014 21:39 GMT
#2440
lol Foolishness butthurt that he's terrible

ahahahahaha
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April 04 2014 21:43 GMT
#2445
let's lynch gumshoe maybe?

or foolishness for giggles
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April 04 2014 21:45 GMT
#2448
I agree jat but i dunno who to lynch :D
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April 04 2014 21:46 GMT
#2450
Foolish, if you're done being pissy, do you have any top preferences that aren't iamp?
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April 04 2014 21:47 GMT
#2452
not gonna explain. lynch him if you want. i won't vote him.

keirathi, who knows iamp best along with me in this game, says he is an abysmal lynch too.

take your choice.
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April 04 2014 21:49 GMT
#2456
On April 05 2014 06:49 IAmRobik wrote:
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On April 04 2014 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
we're still not lynching Robik tomorrow. Sorry buddy.

I love that you're defending me and all, but it's kinda creeping me out because you didn't take this sort of stance on anyone in Heavyweight Champ as far as I recall

Because all I needed to do in that game was lynch mafia. Silly boy.
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April 04 2014 21:50 GMT
#2459
The question is: why is austin playing in Dr Who which is at the start of the day and not Catastrophe which has a few hours left in the day?
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April 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#2460
maybe we should honour the dead rayn and lynch austin :o
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April 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#2461
On April 05 2014 06:49 Keirathi wrote:
And I'm not even saying that iamp is 100%-confirmed-town-innocent-child-never-lynch or anything. But he has very, very different styles as scum and town, and right now he is playing like his town style.

I'm sure he can emulate it for a while (he did for a bit in the same GSL 3 game I just talked about), but he can't do it forever. Lynching him today would just be stupid.

I cannot say it better than this
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April 04 2014 21:54 GMT
#2467
On April 05 2014 06:53 sandroba wrote:
okay then, we can reavaluate next day. I'm about to default to poofer/gumshoe/va. We have to get something started up soon unless you guys really want to see poor scraps hanged.

do you agree/disagree with whatever syllo's post-hoc point was about austin?
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April 04 2014 21:56 GMT
#2470
On April 05 2014 06:55 sandroba wrote:
And yes I realise I butchered English again.

tbh i will sheep you on any of gumshoe/va/austin/bh, but maybe not poof. choose one and i can offload responsibility to you.
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April 04 2014 22:01 GMT
#2475
On April 05 2014 07:00 sandroba wrote:
Austin has posted so little though, and he can be pretty good if he is town. I can't really make a call on his alignment yet. The other 3 I'd be willing to lynch too.

Well, it's up to you now.

No pressure.
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April 04 2014 22:04 GMT
#2480
My vote will simply go where your vote goes, my liege. I'm such a vote-slut.
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April 04 2014 22:05 GMT
#2481
Amiko as well is active in Dr Who with the game at the start of the Day and the game nearing the end of Day 1 here.

That's just awful.
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April 04 2014 22:06 GMT
#2482
srsly, fuck this 2-games-at-once thing
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April 04 2014 22:10 GMT
#2489
what do you think of amiko sand? his filter is reasonably short.
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April 04 2014 22:11 GMT
#2492
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.

and for some reason i kinda trust kita.
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April 04 2014 22:12 GMT
#2494
On April 05 2014 07:12 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.

and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

I don't. He has me on the naughty list

i totally understood kita's suspicions on poof/koshi, but then i also thought it made a lot of sense that the next day he had dropped them. it's what i expected a townie to do tbh.
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April 04 2014 22:14 GMT
#2497
On April 05 2014 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:
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On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.

and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

Maybe I'm a 3p and don't know it? I do know that I win with the town so either way. I'm a good guy <--- RIP Rayn

The reason it is weird, though, is that Amiko says your play does not look like your mafia game in Newbie

but then he says he doesn't think you are town, but that you are scum/3p, probably more likely 3p

it's a really weird read
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April 04 2014 22:17 GMT
#2504
On April 05 2014 07:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:14 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.

and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

Maybe I'm a 3p and don't know it? I do know that I win with the town so either way. I'm a good guy <--- RIP Rayn

The reason it is weird, though, is that Amiko says your play does not look like your mafia game in Newbie

but then he says he doesn't think you are town, but that you are scum/3p, probably more likely 3p

it's a really weird read

Whatever. Unlike the people who were calling me scum earlier, he has no sway.

what's that got to do with anything???
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April 04 2014 22:18 GMT
#2507
On April 05 2014 07:17 sandroba wrote:
I'm already 15 min late and my gf is calling me. Just tell me where to put my vote then and I can get out of here.

just vote for who you prefer to lynch out of gumshoe and amiko maybe?
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April 04 2014 22:19 GMT
#2510
On April 05 2014 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:17 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:16 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:14 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.

and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

Maybe I'm a 3p and don't know it? I do know that I win with the town so either way. I'm a good guy <--- RIP Rayn

The reason it is weird, though, is that Amiko says your play does not look like your mafia game in Newbie

but then he says he doesn't think you are town, but that you are scum/3p, probably more likely 3p

it's a really weird read

Whatever. Unlike the people who were calling me scum earlier, he has no sway.

what's that got to do with anything???

He has no pull, so him calling me scum matters less to me than other people calling me scum. No one will listen to him, so he won't get me mislynched.

it's not about you for god's sake, i'm talking about amiko's alignment. christ.
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April 04 2014 22:22 GMT
#2519
On April 05 2014 07:22 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, I dont play, people fucking lynch me, I do play, hey that guys a lurker usually he has to be scum! Sigh.

not seen that argument used against you in any of the games we've played together
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April 04 2014 22:24 GMT
#2523
am gonna sheep sand.
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April 04 2014 22:29 GMT
#2530
If you wanna make something happen, Robik, the floor is yours.
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April 04 2014 23:01 GMT
#2563
I can kill Amiko. The fact he is still not in the thread is pretty shocking.
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April 04 2014 23:29 GMT
#2598
On April 05 2014 08:28 Amiko wrote:
@Holyflare:
I can't deny there's a chance he's scum, but I think he's 3p. From how my role works, I think I have the best chance if town/3p works together.

how does your role work?
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April 04 2014 23:30 GMT
#2599
I suggest you answer truthfully
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April 04 2014 23:37 GMT
#2607
On April 05 2014 08:35 Amiko wrote:
I'm not willing to put my full role yet. It's something I'll consider, but I'll say this:

I am immune to night kills (though I might be able to die at night... I'm not entirely sure).

This is one of the reasons why I believed Robik's statement that he was immune, and similarly for kita's. I felt disclosing it was anti-town because if I kept quiet about it, I could potentially soak bullets.
However, I think town loses much from me admitting this, because if I'm a lynch candidate I probably won't be night killed (at least by mafia). You can potentially confirm this part of my claim if there's a vigi.

you do realise to soak bullets you have to play in a remotely townie manner, yes?
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April 04 2014 23:38 GMT
#2609
are you claiming 3rd party, Amiko?
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April 04 2014 23:39 GMT
#2613
On April 05 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
are you claiming 3rd party, Amiko?

answer this now pls
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April 04 2014 23:40 GMT
#2614
you have until :45
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April 04 2014 23:42 GMT
#2617
because i'm a good guy i'm bringing it back to :44
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April 04 2014 23:44 GMT
#2621
we're going to lynch Amiko
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April 04 2014 23:44 GMT
#2622
Amiko is the lynch
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April 04 2014 23:44 GMT
#2624
##Unvote
##Vote: Amiko
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April 04 2014 23:45 GMT
#2627
are you claiming 3p or not Amiko?
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April 04 2014 23:45 GMT
#2628
yes/no or you get lynched
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April 04 2014 23:48 GMT
#2632
ok. everyone on Amiko. Right now. He's delaying.
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April 04 2014 23:48 GMT
#2633
this is the wagon.
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April 04 2014 23:58 GMT
#2647
no i'm pretty set here. Amiko is coming across as really apathetic and uninvested. And he still hasn't answered the 3p question.

it's very simple.
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April 05 2014 00:00 GMT
#2653
On April 05 2014 08:57 Amiko wrote:
Fine.
I'm 3p. I want to work with town.
I feel like I hinted at my alignment pretty consistently and practically claimed it anyway when I said I have a power similar to Robik & kita, who I also feel are 3p.

I think you could have used this push to get reads on some of the players pushing my lynch if you backed off the demand for an alignment claim and talked with each other. But, I guess I not in a position to criticize play in this game.

what drugs are you smoking?

there's an hour left in the day and we need 15 votes...
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April 05 2014 00:00 GMT
#2654
fuck knows wave.
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April 05 2014 00:03 GMT
#2658
Just reading Amiko's filter makes me feel like he's telling the truth
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April 05 2014 00:03 GMT
#2659
specifically "you want to win with me robik?"
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April 05 2014 00:04 GMT
#2660
ok. i guess we lynch gumshoe.
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April 05 2014 00:05 GMT
#2663
On April 05 2014 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On April 05 2014 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
fuck knows wave.

Yeah this is why I worry. What are the chances we were even onto any scum in the three or so people up for lynch today? Funny that I missed out on a whole bunch of games where town just steamrolls scum and now that I come back we're back to square one.

I want to call you out marv for not giving that 100% scumlynch but I suppose I have to be forgiving given it's not a mini +themed.

Given i'm basically confirmed town, you can call out to your heart's content.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:05 GMT
#2667
with sandroba on gumshoe and others afk, i think he's our best chance at a lynch

and poisoner is a scummy kinda role anyway. even though role doesn't equal alignment, i'm reaching ;D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#2670
I know wave :D

holy - poisoner = use KP -> death next night
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:09 GMT
#2677
On April 05 2014 09:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Woops. Meant to quote marv.

you did quote me lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:09 GMT
#2683
way too many players not around for this lynch tbh.

v v v v v v disappointed in austin
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:10 GMT
#2684
On April 05 2014 09:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:07 Keirathi wrote:
I dont think I've ever actually seen a scum poisoner though. :o

i have, but i must have missed a poisoner claim in this game

gumshoe
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#2687
you don't say holy. christ.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#2691
you're totally right dandel. i made that up. dunno where that came from.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:14 GMT
#2698
On April 05 2014 09:11 austinmcc wrote:
Catching up and am on 128 so we'll see if this continues but I don't see why Gumshoe is the magical lurker lynch over SUPER DUPER LURKY folks like Djodref.

Who responded super quick to syllo about his read-through, then nothing. And more nothing. And for whoever wants to talk about multiple games, is less than alive in other games, which should yield an increase in participation/activity more than stuff like "people who are alive in other games are posting in other games."

NOT A GREAT ARGUMENT. I UNDERSTAND. But I'm interested in why Gumshoe is specifically a good target over other lurkers. And if it's activity elsewhere, we've already seen RIGHT NOW that he can be inactive as town in other games. So the activity thing is basically a nullity (i'm not going to call someone town for not posting in a thread)

But djo has been on some lists and not on others and is a way lurkier lurker than Gumshoe if you want lurkers.

Hopefully someone else has realized this in the last couple pages.

I've given reasons for disliking gumshoe.

and before page 128 too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:14 GMT
#2700
On April 05 2014 09:13 Keirathi wrote:
It came from:

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:22 gumshoe wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:21 gumshoe wrote:
Hey! If you guys wanna lynch me go ahead, I dont really mind and I do have my hands full with Cell / : if you people have any specific qualms to ask of me go ahead, I'll try to get some reads out before vote : D

My role has a one shot kp after day 1, so if your going to lynch me may as well be today / :

Is it dayvig? Cuz if it is dayvig I don't want you to die.


After day 1 I can set an army on anyone at any time, that person dies a day later.


So he's a poisoner after day 1?

yes! thanks!

i am not going mad
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:14 GMT
#2702
also town hero dandel wants to kill gumshoe
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:28 GMT
#2719
On April 05 2014 09:20 austinmcc wrote:
Yes marv, but you're not the only one voting him or halfway-considering voting him.

we need a majority, we don't need to delve into everyone's reasons when you've not been fucked to turn up until now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:30 GMT
#2722
i'm about to leave actually. e-han timing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 00:36 GMT
#2729
could really do with any stragglers shoring up the wagon

at least we get some kinda info with his death if he's town i guess :d
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 10:54 GMT
#2818
beautiful, isn't it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 11:37 GMT
#2822
Should probably rehash things and start again to an extent, extra focus on people like BH, VA, LSB, Djodref.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 15:09 GMT
#2837
ok so at least for tonight let's try to cooperate a bit

the world hasn't ended because we lynched a townie after all

One of the problems with looking at the gumshoe voters is that in the end we simply needed a majority, and that's a good enough reason for anyone to vote for someone at the end of the day.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 15:10 GMT
#2838
and by "at the end of the day" i mean literally, rather than the hackneyed phrase ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 15:14 GMT
#2839
On April 05 2014 03:25 LSB wrote:
This game has been noted by obvious mafias. People that play so mafiaish that they scream "LYNCH Me". Unfortunatly it has grown to the point where it may well as be more mafia than town. Such is the life in TL.

OBV Mafia (just click filter): Djodref, sandroba, VA, gumshoe - Note obv mafia is not a definative statement but more of a general filter impression.

Strange stuff.

I find the first paragraph kinda ironic given much of LSB's play this game as well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 15:17 GMT
#2842
yes, I'd quite like to see LSB die I think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 16:41 GMT
#2874
On April 06 2014 01:40 sandroba wrote:
You guys suck. Totally not my fault.

100% confirmed sandroba's fault
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 17:22 GMT
#2895
called him confirmed town in vengeful.

just sayin' like.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 17:29 GMT
#2902
He was town

But he did one spectacularly townie thing so it's not really a very good comparison all in all
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 17:30 GMT
#2904
i think so

don't quote me on that though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 17:32 GMT
#2908
I don't believe you. I just told you what I think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 17:34 GMT
#2912
I basically think jat is too confrontational and bitchy to be mafia. And he made me giggle a couple times.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 05 2014 18:00 GMT
#2925
On April 06 2014 02:55 sandroba wrote:
Apparently noone knows when I'm joking to dodge the bad lynch. Yes I know it was my fault, dammit

Everyone knows, we just want to relentlessly hammer you for it anyway

<3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 23 2014 10:06 GMT
#6299
On April 23 2014 14:27 Foolishness wrote:
Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 02:56 Foolishness wrote:
"For example, has anyone actually read syllogism's filter?"

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 02:56 Foolishness wrote:
Other townies, such as Balla24,

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
According to a recent research paper by Foolishness, iamperfection may not be as perfect as his name implies. His close analysis of iamperfection's filter reveals interesting results that are fresh and new to Catastrophe town. The main result of the research is that iamperfection fits the bill perfectly as a mafia blending into the chaos.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
"You definitely don't want to be visiting France anytime soon. There's something fishy going on there."



Two Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
"Yamato77 is definitely a trustworthy person. We've seen in the past that Austin is a light-hearted, fun city that's not afraid to troll you. The time of year you have to be suspicious of Austin is when he's being super-serious, and that's definitely not right now."

Two mafia and a 3rd party, 2 correct town reads (Keirathi and Koshi). Couple wrong.
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:16 Foolishness wrote:
iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi

"It's posts like these that give me hope for the future," says esteemed mafia expert Foolishness. "Personally, I'd replace Keirathi and Koshi with Djodref and tehpoofter, and there's probably no reason to include VE. But otherwise this list probably wraps up most of the game."

One wrong, one correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:38 Foolishness wrote:
sandroba and kitaman are much more trustworthy.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:38 Foolishness wrote:

Foolishness: The most damning thing about you is your switcheroo read on tehpoofter. I don't think that's reason enough to lynch you. I don't feel like you're hiding anything from the town. You're not pushing an agenda. Also a lot of questionable people are pushing your lynch. Ironically some of these players are also top of peoples' scum list.
Paperscraps: How does that factor in?
Foolishness: For example, I may have a list of 6-7 people I think are mafia. Obviously I probably have a couple right as most people would, but the others are all wrong. I always get antsy when 4 of the players in the list are all voting the same person.



Now...let's check out that other guy...


Two Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia Koshi likely is.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 18:38 marvellosity wrote:
Find me mafia then, Holy.

hint: yamato is not it

One Wrong, One Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
The people I won't lynch today under any circumstances:

rayn/syllogism*

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
I agree with you that I think he should find Robik town..

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:20 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
Paperscraps isn't in that list, paperscraps is being voted. Foolishness doesn't comment on paperscraps. Foolishness is a shitter version of shadow foolishness. Foolishness is mafia.

a tempting read.

One wrong, one half-correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
i'd still rather lynch paperscraps than poofter.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
iamp is town, and it's nothing to do with calling me town, it's to do with the fact i have played with him 30 times and i know what a town-iamp looks like.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:
tbh i will sheep you on austin.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:24 marvellosity wrote:
am gonna sheep sand.

Correct (or wrong depending on your viewpoint):
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
we're going to lynch Amiko

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:04 marvellosity wrote:
ok. i guess we lynch gumshoe.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
also town hero dandle wants to kill gumshoe

Three Wrong, One Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Should probably rehash things and start again to an extent, extra focus on people like BH, VA, LSB, Djodref.

Correct:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
yes, I'd quite like to see LSB die I think.

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 02:30 Koshi wrote:
marv is JAT town?

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
i think so



In summary:

Wrong:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:22 marvellosity wrote:
Plus I am right more often than Foolishness is right anyway.

Hey, I can't be perfect, just look at my recent games for how often I lynch mafia. Do you not remember Shadow game as you died you wanted to lynch Promethelax and hard-defended Holyflare/Toadesstern with massive, bullshit walls of text?

Or Personality 2 (our lovely trainwreck) you wanted to lynch yamato, Crossfire, and marvellosity

The difference is, I can point to myriad games this year alone where I actually got mafia lynched, rather than living on play from the past.

Frankly I'm pretty stunned you felt the need to do this oneupmanship once the game has finished, but I'm happy to go at it if you wanna go down that road.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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