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On April 03 2014 15:36 Tehpoofter wrote: Why haven't we pushed the button yet? Seems like a good idea. Naa its just joey you're have to excuse him he's canadian. Ask him about numbers that gets his pee-pee going. Only when he's mafia. O really? Can't lynch you huh? ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet This post feels awkward to me even as a troll. In the subsequent post you postulate that, based on your video mafia experience, robik is really excited as town and you aren't seeing that here yet. You have at least some previous forum mafia experience, so I've a hard time believing that you can't see the difference between the formats. Was your genuine expectation that Robik's post would immediately convey the same kind of excitement and do you actually think that he has "quit"? That is, do you think that Robik was serious when he said he "would be back on day 2"? | ||
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On April 03 2014 11:36 Balla24 wrote: I did not claim this to be the case. Being fair is always nice though, for the people of course. What is interesting is not the fairness of the lynch but the attempts to make the lynch unfair. Can you elaborate on what you mean by the last sentence? | ||
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On April 03 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote: I think Greymist could do this. More pertinently, it seems like a fuckton of effort to go through to write everything backwards. It's not something I'd ever see myself doing unnecessarily (as mafia presumably) because fuck that shit. It takes no effort at all. In fact, if you go here, copy paste his post and choose "flip wording", you get a perfectly normal post with no errors at all, spacing and all. That suggests it was done automatically rather than manually. Did this not occur to you? It is reasonable to believe that Greymist would realize such tools are available and I don't think it's likely he that would make a role with a posting restriction that takes no effort on the part of the person with the role. It also just makes the game more annoying to read and as far as I know, there are no previous Greymist roles with posting restrictions. If you agree, do you think this says something about Paperscraps? | ||
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On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote: Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere. yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town. keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler + I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up" gumshoe remarkably overzealous. everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee. Did you intend to imply that gumshoe being overzealous is alignment indicative and if so, does it make town or mafia? | ||
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On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote: I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town. I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ. You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie. As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game. | ||
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On April 03 2014 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Lets lynch balla! syllo, why are you spending so much time coaching/buddying robik? I've made my motives quite clear. | ||
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Are you reading the thread or just skimming? I asked you a questione earlier. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:18 marvellosity wrote: We can possibly deal with Palmar tomorrow (as in Friday). I'm curious as to what syllogism thinks of his behaviour. Based on my recent discussions with him and how he played as mafia in Titanic Mini, I don't think his play so far makes him mafia. You followed along that game so it should be fresh in your mind. What about his play so far makes him mafia? When you say we can deal with him tomorrow, do you mean to imply that he is your strongest read right now? | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:59 marvellosity wrote: It means I don't particularly know what to think. As far as I can see, he's trying to play along with his persona from the pre-game. The problem is that all of his reads (mafia ones) don't make sense and/or seem wrong to me, and don't fit into what I'd think "neutral good" would mean as a persona. I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you suggesting that he isn't role playing/messing around because it doesn't seem to match his D&D alignment? | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:07 austinmcc wrote: I don't think it's alignment-indicative, but I don't know gumshoe well. It's a stark contrast from what I know off-the-top-of-my-head about his recent play, and everyone else seems to be doing normal stuff (Palmar is being Palmar-y, people are being themselves-y, gumshoe is going ham on people). I like syllo for asking this question, he grabs a strange part of one of my posts, asks about it, in a way that indicates he probably wants to get a read on me. Why mention it at all if it's meaningless? Palmar hadn't even posted when you made that remark, and you using later content to explain why you singled out gumshoe at previous point is suspicious. Does no one else really feel different from how they usually play? | ||
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On April 04 2014 07:17 marvellosity wrote: All Palmar's reads are terrible and he's not even playing the game properly, so Paperscraps saying he's sheeping a trolling spammer while at the same time saying spam is making his eyes bleed is just stinkywinky. I agree with this, but him insisting on maintaining his supposed PR even after pressure doesn't strike me as mafia. Agreed? Sandro: HF does seem uninvested in the game so far. Not sure if that makes him mafia. Any thoughts on austin? Besides the things I mentioned earlier, his interactions with gumshoe overall seem random/forced. From my experience austin is quite paranoid and in this game he doesn't seem to be suspecting anyone so far. | ||
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On April 04 2014 16:54 Koshi wrote: Should I kill marv. No. Even if you suspect him, he is someone whose alignment will be abundantly clear after, at the latest, a few night of flips. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:28 Tehpoofter wrote: @those awake currently what are your thoughts on Oats/ WoS? This looks strange given that Oats is/was one of your strongest town reads. What were you hoping to gain from asking this question? Robik: As I understand it, you are a bit more familiar with tehpoofter's play. He understandably was fixated on you early on, but hasn't really been doing anything since then besides asking, from my perspective, unfocused questions. On the other hand, he seems carefree; what do you think? | ||
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On April 04 2014 20:29 marvellosity wrote: sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscraps which was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions There's actual insight and thought here. This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers. It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"? | ||
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Gumshoe: I'm not expecting miracles from your answer, but could you attempt to enunciate as to why this game doesn't interest you? | ||
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