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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:42 Holyflare wrote: kush said he hadn't even read the game yet starts quoting things from the game as to why i'm scum, i'm pretty sure that would be an obvious thing to realise palmar it's called skimming your filter | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Just everyone, try to argue with each other don't blindly jump on conclusions. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:45 Steveling wrote: Shall I take an oath? lmao Anyway, stick to the points pls and argue if you want. Also don't rustle your jimmies, to my eyes you look like a white angel compared to sentinel and I haven't even touch on coag yet. I don't care whether or not you want to vote me, I care that your case is fundamentally wrong, and I want to know why it's wrong. How can you say me calling HF is out of the blue, or that I agree fast with Coag, when half of your case is dedicated to talking about how I've been suspicious of HF throughout the game, all the way since his meta stuff which you even say is correct, which implies you actualy read it. Like I can understand not reading the game, but did you even read your own case? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:16 Palmar wrote: rayn doesn't have to be scum. Seriously why are you even playing this game, you're just assuming some random bullshit to be true. Steve is "modconfirmed" for saying "sorry mods" in the thread. And rayn claims scum and then town and thus he's mafia. No he doesnt have to be, but the claim itself in conjunction with his rage at me indicates the first bit was true, alchohol lowers inhibitions far more than it turns us into liars / : most likely scenario is that he was really pissed at me for what I did (id like to note here only two people should be pissed at me for that whole scenario, steve, because I turned him into the lynch target and scum. The vast majority considered me null because they thought it was possible I could be lying, whereas scum were like "wtf, thats so cheap, how do I reject that without looking scummy?!") then some part of him realized hed fucked up and backtracked. This is far and away the most likely scenario and I find it really strange how hard your clinging to the notion that what he did was null / : Could he still be town? Sure, is it far more likely hes scum? YES, so we should use all the information at our disposal, is that not what town Rayn would want us to do XD I'm less certain about sent, he did attack Rayn once, but this post is just so godamm soft XD, its hard to at a glance understand what he thinks of Rayn and shortly after he abandons this train of thought to go after Steve T_T A general impression from a quick skim of the 13 pages of roshi's filter: If I had to distinguish between town rayn and scum rayn, is that rayn plays scum like CNN - seemingly factual, but carefully omitting anything that doesn't support it, and shifting away the attention before anyone starts asking "why?" The case on gumshoe seems a bit myopic but legitimate, something I'd see coming from yamato more than rayn. Sure it's very detailed and sourced but it's almost to the point where rayn's letting his frustration with gum lead his argument instead of the other way around. More Fox than CNN. So we have a guy who is totally wrong and clinging to a sinking ship, a dude whose been a bit bouncy with his reads and the one time he did hit upon rayn it was in a very soft manner (a bit before he pushed onto steve) and Coag. Yaaaay cell 1 | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Palmar
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
I'll apologise if I did. Gumshoe hi, speak pls, we need more opinions. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:52 Steveling wrote: I don't think I made a mistake Palmar but I'm now reading my post again. I'll apologise if I did. Gumshoe hi, speak pls, we need more opinions. You acknowledge that I spent a lot of time talking to and about holyflare, and then you say my read on him comes out of the blue. Then you say you're surprised I'm agreeing with coag fast, when you should know, having written the first part of your case that I already agreed on that, prior to coag saying anything about it. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:50 Palmar wrote: You have no idea if I'm wrong or not unless you're mafia. wtf are you talking about palmar, no I dont know for bloody certain, but when does anyone know anything for certain in this game except scum?! We make pushes by reading into people and wondering why they do the things they do, I havent just said his claim makes him scum, I have also provided reasoning for why it does. As I would with any opinion of mine. Having no 100 precent idea of something doesnt mean we should just sit on our asses and not read into what Rayn did. Btw Palmar no offence, I do look up to you : P and legit think your damm good at this game despite what bits of mean I've thrown your way, but are you getting as annoyed by my posts as I am of yours? Just curios XD | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:47 Palmar wrote: I don't care whether or not you want to vote me, I care that your case is fundamentally wrong, and I want to know why it's wrong. How can you say me calling HF is out of the blue, or that I agree fast with Coag, when half of your case is dedicated to talking about how I've been suspicious of HF throughout the game, all the way since his meta stuff which you even say is correct, which implies you actualy read it. Like I can understand not reading the game, but did you even read your own case? Oh I see what you mean. You mean that it was obvious from your convo that you thought HF's play as scummy and that you reached a logical conclusion. Well, it seemed out of the blue to me because I think HF was right in that case and I was like "wtf, why is palmar calling him scum". | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
He also says "blindly attacking townies" in his "case" which he would have no idea whether it is true or not unless he knows the actual alignments of the players. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:57 Holyflare wrote: and then the fact that he goes into my filter as 100% confirmed scum and picks out random bits of it to say nothing like he's won some kind of jackpot One thing we can say for certain is your not scum together XD so if Palmar were to flip red you'd be clear most likely. You could also both be town / : | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On April 05 2014 01:01 Palmar wrote: So why are you mad hf? he's getting lynched right? im not mad, it's just silly you'd agree with stuff he's raised when he hasn't even read it! | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On April 05 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote: im not mad, it's just silly you'd agree with stuff he's raised when he hasn't even read it! I agreed with his read on you, not with his particular arguments. Go look at steve's case to see why I think you are mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 05 2014 00:52 Steveling wrote: I don't think I made a mistake Palmar but I'm now reading my post again. I'll apologise if I did. Gumshoe hi, speak pls, we need more opinions. We are probs town so we should no lynch. I have claimed that alchohol makes us more likely to tell truths (it is an inhibitor lowerer) and Rayns anger at me indicates hes scum (only scum and you were likely to be angry, you because you became directly impacted, scum because they saw what I did as unfair) Rayn got pissed at the order or something, claimed, realized he fucked up and thats that. Reading the filters a few things came to mind, Rayns convo with sent does not read as scum on scum I am maybe leaning Sentinel being scum over Coag. Sentinel made all-over-nothing posts on our group and wasted a lot of time and didn't come to any conclusion And everything Sentinel says is bleeding town? / : check it out for youself, wanna hear what you think about it. On the other hand, raynkoshi seems suprisingly warm twoards Coag, yet it feels like Coag's lynch is an almost forgone conclusion in his eyes. I am somewhat sad that coag is not playing and we need to lynch into that first but w.e. Palmar his responsibility. Like can you just play the game and deduct Coag is scum from Sentinel and Palmar their filter instead of going for a policy lynch? It's lame that because rayn thinks you are scum you refuse to give opinions on sentinel and Palmar and just policy lynch Coag Like, if Coag is scum, I dont see Koshi so blatantly being reluctant to lynch him / : and yet be effectively resolved to still do so. Heres a list of scum he offered in the midst of his turmoil Steveling (only trying to win his group currently) alakaslam (trust rayn) geript (imo not good reads, cav shares them and I don't understand why) Coag (Other 2 town) Read for youself, but it seems like hes prepping for a green flip on Coag / : which leaves the captain of a sinking ship.... | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
ceph coag or sent (probably sent tbh) slam maaaybe lsb And I have no idea and don't care. probably steve. | ||
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