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Holyflare
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Palmar
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Palmar
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Palmar
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On April 05 2014 01:13 Holyflare wrote: just gonna lynch palmar today You do that. | ||
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Palmar
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Palmar
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Geript is a much harder case, but for the most part he doesn't look like scumript. I always call him out as mafia on day 1 when he is mafia, and I actually thought rayn's tunnel on him was wrong, I pointed out some flaws in rayn's case here: On April 02 2014 22:08 Palmar wrote: I didn't like poofter's giant post on HF just to come back and say mderg is more likely scum. That's basically actively keeping options open which isn't really needed for town. But yes, if this is all mderg has to offer we lynch him. Doesn't make HF's meta any more valid, even if he flips mafia  I don't really understand the first part of #1, the second part is a non-point because if you call that a contradiction no one can ever bring up the HF = bus/right thing and then disagree with him. It's actually really dumb to expect geript to consistently stay with that notion of holyflare and never question antyhing HF does because of it. You're pushing him to live up to what is probably a joke. #3 is actually a good point, and if there was a way of testing it that'd be great. ie if we could somehow interrogate only the Cav head without him being funneled answers from the geript head. But I don't think we can so whatever. #2 is just a meta read, and I'm not even sure I agree scum geript is passive, he was plenty mad at me in survivor. Like I don't know, if this is geript mafia he's not playing like he played in survivor. He was much more cowboy-ish and less interactive in that game than he is now. | ||
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gumshoe
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In the early stages of the game, Rayn was certain me and Geript were scum BEFORE really hearing out our teamates. Okay geript is scum. There is no way he is town in this game. Reasoning: You don't policy lynch in this setup. You don't even think about it because you can read the other two people in the group and decide the lynch based on reads on those people. There is no way geript brings up some fluff like policy lynches as town. Not in this game. The post prplhz quoted is full of nothing, policies after policies. The post is nothing and says nothing useful. At this point in time Cephiro (Geripts cell mate ) had not actually posted / : Here i present you our first...... Confirmed scumscumscumscumscum!!!! ezpz This is on me and similarly at this point in time Steve has not posted. So clearly Rayn is willing to make reads despite hearing a whole cell out right? Welp, thats not exactly the case for one guy. Palmar looks town but there was 1 point I was a bit iffy about, and we can't say shit about his teammates, so I am a bit hesitant about him but currently I want to call him town. So it's not that this thread needs us to win. From the last group i have a read on Sentinel in a way or anohter but it's not strong so i don't want to elaborate more on that yet. Palmar could go either way until he talks more and so can Coag. Palmar is not certain because his cellmates are afk. If they start playing the game Palmar could go second. and eventually this comes out. Palmar is quite obviously town. I am good at reading him. As scum he does not read the thread, he just doesn't give a fuck about properly reading the thread. He sticks to his policies (lynch lurkers, lynch liars, etc etc..) and makes weak cases. He does not think about motivation behind what people say. In this game it's the opposite. at the start he did what he always does in PYP (said "be back in 48h this phase dumb"). When i explained him why he should not afk he realized i was right. If he was mafia he would have stuck to his PYP policy 99%. He is also trying to actually figure out shit and not only look like it ( see for example Holyflare - mderg meta thingy, in contrary see Thug life where i insta-caught him for his shit read on yamato and Titanic where he just tunneled VE and made some half-arsed comments on other people). In both scumcases he clearly didn't care about the game. WHWC game was even more hilarious. He just asked some random questions from gumshoe and ended up in non-conclusion, then he didn't do anything at all. Palmar can be lazy as town aswell but it's different. He still shows he thinks about the game when he posts. It's totes different than in this game than when he is scum. Palmar is town! ~rayn This came a bit out of the blue, it wasnt really a direct response but from what I can gather, it was prompted I assume by Palmar's support of Rayn against me, and my attack on the active players in thread / : (of which palmar was one and I did comment against him as well a short while before this post) Whats funny though is that at this point sent and Coag have barely posted 0_0 so what changed? The only reason I see for scum Rayn coming out in support of Palmar is so that they can safely consolidate / : which means his whole "cant say what palmar is cause afks" was probally bullshit and just an excuse to avoid talking about his scum mate. Yeah, we should lynch plam today / : | ||
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gumshoe
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##Vote Palmar | ||
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Palmar
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On April 05 2014 01:51 gumshoe wrote: Palmar is loath to admit that what Rayn did makes him scum, because it is much easier to argue that point than it is to convince us that he is not also scum if Rayn is in fact red / : They were likely willing to buddy up so closely after a certain point because they realized that neither of them were going flip, so long as something crazy didn't happen....... ##Vote Palmar Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit. | ||
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Palmar
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No one is this dumb. | ||
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Palmar
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conclude someone entirely different is mafia. | ||
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gumshoe
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On April 05 2014 01:58 Palmar wrote: write 200 word essay on unflipped player. conclude someone entirely different is mafia. Virtually everyone here agrees that what rayn did makes him scummy. Kinda funny how things have turned around no? Just a few days ago our positions were reversed XD not fun fighting the whole thread is it? How long till your scum buddy's smell the blood in the water and come for you as well ya think? | ||
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Coagulation
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##unvote ##vote sent | ||
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Alakaslam
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prplhz
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Palmar
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On April 05 2014 02:01 gumshoe wrote: Virtually everyone here agrees that what rayn did makes him scummy. Kinda funny how things have turned around no? Just a few days ago our positions were reversed XD not fun fighting the whole thread is it? How long till your scum buddy's smell the blood in the water and come for you as well ya think? You were under suspicion for something you did. You and HF are trying to pusht he idea that I should be under suspicion for something rayn did. There is a difference and it makes you mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
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On April 05 2014 02:04 Coagulation wrote: palmar is really engaged. looks quite town, so it must be sent right? ##unvote ##vote sent but sentinels meta is to look scummy as town right righhhhhhhttttt | ||
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Holyflare
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On April 05 2014 02:06 Palmar wrote: You were under suspicion for something you did. You and HF are trying to pusht he idea that I should be under suspicion for something rayn did. There is a difference and it makes you mafia. i'm not sure i imply that anywhere? | ||
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Holyflare
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On April 04 2014 19:55 Holyflare wrote: Cell 1 Raynpelikonoshi Gumshoe Steveling Cell 2 Holyflare Tehpoofter mderg Cell 3 Palmar Sentinel Coagulation Cell 4 Balla24 LSB Alakaslam Cell 5 Getmoript prplhz Cephiro this is where i'm at right now tis what lists are for | ||
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gumshoe
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Take note, this is the angriest reaction from palmar I have ever seen. I think what I've said is fairly reasonable / : and well mannered as well. So why an outburst this bad? Why does my opinion ( which he doesn't really seem to value) get him this angry? 2 things are at work. He blames me for what rayn did, the game was thiers before I did something cheap / : so he can't help but be angry at me. palmar responds more coolly to accusations as town than a lot of players on tl in my opinion XD Yet he's furious here, which brings me to the second factor, which is that I have hit the nail on the head XD and he can't stand it. | ||
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