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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 22:47 GMT
#2427
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
This also means directed Kp is horrible. I will not say who I will shoot if I survive the lynch because that would be a pretty bad idea.

On March 09 2014 19:10 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, once JOAT uses *any* ability once, he becomes a vanilla. So LSB should have no more powers if he used an ability last night (which he claims).

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 22:49 GMT
#2431
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.

On March 03 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Setup

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor. At the start of Day 1 all players will receive the one of the following PMs:
Vanilla Townie
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win when there are no more remaining Mafia players.

Mafia Goon
You are a Mafia Goon. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win the game when Mafia players equal or outnumber the Town and/or Third Party players remaining in the game.

Third Party Survivor
You are a vanilla Third Party Survivor. You receive an extra bulletproof vest to absorbs the first KP which targets you (this works against factional KP). Otherwise, you have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role. If you survive until End Game, then you win the game alongside Town or Scum.

Please stop making terrible assumptions.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 22:52 GMT
#2433
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two?

Gumshoe getting +1 vest and a PGO ability would fit with the role of veteran and it's two defensive abilities, versus another offensive ability for palmar plus some ability for him to prevent a hit on gumshoe (why would he do that?), or him busdriving. Tell me, how does a busdriving assassin make any sense?!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 22:53 GMT
#2434
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

I agree with this. I think we should lynch Gumshoe instead because too many shenanigans have taken place.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:01 GMT
#2441
On March 10 2014 07:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two?

Gumshoe getting +1 vest and a PGO ability would fit with the role of veteran and it's two defensive abilities, versus another offensive ability for palmar plus some ability for him to prevent a hit on gumshoe (why would he do that?), or him busdriving. Tell me, how does a busdriving assassin make any sense?!


This needs a Paint picture. Badly.

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:03 GMT
#2443
On March 10 2014 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno. This game seems to hardly make any sense. I guess there's something huge we're missing... But I somehow can't picture how gumshoe could be scum with his Veteran role.

+1 vest and kill the first guy that visits you is what is required for that. I think it's very likely marv roleblocked him, and it would've taken precedence over a vig visiting as per the role list.
On March 10 2014 07:55 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.

On March 03 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Setup

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor. At the start of Day 1 all players will receive the one of the following PMs:
Vanilla Townie
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win when there are no more remaining Mafia players.

Mafia Goon
You are a Mafia Goon. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win the game when Mafia players equal or outnumber the Town and/or Third Party players remaining in the game.

Third Party Survivor
You are a vanilla Third Party Survivor. You receive an extra bulletproof vest to absorbs the first KP which targets you (this works against factional KP). Otherwise, you have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role. If you survive until End Game, then you win the game alongside Town or Scum.

Please stop making terrible assumptions.

You saw Austinmcc's role right? It doesn't suggest that either you are correct or I am correct, it implies either explanation is likely

Yes, but they didn't START with the role. It was in the rolecop role that they could get with PYP.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:04 GMT
#2445
We lynch gum today guys. I've got the feels.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:06 GMT
#2447
Hey Palmar, Palmar
Policy on Gumshoe.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:11 GMT
#2449
On March 10 2014 08:08 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 08:06 Xatalos wrote:
LSB, what do you think of lynching gumshoe?

Horrible idea, gumshoe is confirmed town in my explanation. That's what I'm hoping to make clear to you guys at least

True: I jailed Marvellosity.
True: RBer takes precedence over jailing.
Likely: Marvellosity RBed Gumshoe.
Plausible: The person that Marv visited killed him
Plausible: A scum veteran role could turn into a PGO-like role as it makes sense for the flavour of the role
Why is Gumshoe confirmed town again?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:11 GMT
#2450
With how you thought scum could start with roles and thought you could use more than one role, I really don't think you're in a position to make things clear to us LSB.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:13 GMT
#2452
On March 10 2014 08:13 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 10 2014 08:08 LSB wrote:
On March 10 2014 08:06 Xatalos wrote:
LSB, what do you think of lynching gumshoe?

Horrible idea, gumshoe is confirmed town in my explanation. That's what I'm hoping to make clear to you guys at least

True: I jailed Marvellosity.
True: RBer takes precedence over jailing.
Likely: Marvellosity RBed Gumshoe.
Plausible: The person that Marv visited killed him
Plausible: A scum veteran role could turn into a PGO-like role as it makes sense for the flavour of the role
Why is Gumshoe confirmed town again?



If Gumshoe is PGO why didn't hoplelessder die last night?

Perhaps only the first person that visits him dies. It makes sense as Marv's action takes precedence over a vig shot.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:17 GMT
#2453
It has to be Gumshoe because LSB has made so many wrongful assumptions AND didn't want to lynch Gumshoe whom is like the only realistic lynch other than him. Also makes sense with the Austin hard defend. Gumshoe has no reason to be town other than night actions and I've found a reasonable narrative for him to be scum even with the night actions so get on him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:18 GMT
#2455
Like what scum says "damn I'm about to get lynched better call the only alternative confirmed town!"
LSB town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:20 GMT
#2457
On March 10 2014 08:18 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 08:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 10 2014 08:13 LSB wrote:
On March 10 2014 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 10 2014 08:08 LSB wrote:
On March 10 2014 08:06 Xatalos wrote:
LSB, what do you think of lynching gumshoe?

Horrible idea, gumshoe is confirmed town in my explanation. That's what I'm hoping to make clear to you guys at least

True: I jailed Marvellosity.
True: RBer takes precedence over jailing.
Likely: Marvellosity RBed Gumshoe.
Plausible: The person that Marv visited killed him
Plausible: A scum veteran role could turn into a PGO-like role as it makes sense for the flavour of the role
Why is Gumshoe confirmed town again?



If Gumshoe is PGO why didn't hoplelessder die last night?

Perhaps only the first person that visits him dies. It makes sense as Marv's action takes precedence over a vig shot.

So you assume three things for Gumshoe to be mafia.

1) Marv RBed Gumshoe - Most likely
2) Gumshoe has extra Lives / immune to night KP - on top of vet, really?
3) Gumshoe has a PGO ability that only targets the first person that visits him at night - Okay this is just getting silly

For anyone else to be mafia, they would need a bus drive ability. Just one assumption.

You have to look at the flavour of the role too. A detective isn't suddenly going to get KP when they're scum. Survivability abilities for a veteran role make sense. A busdrive ability for an assassin makes no sense. You have to look at abilities within their role type. No way is a dayvig or an assassin going to have a busdrive ability.

A veteran scum getting two extra abilities is more reasonable to me than the alternative. And if we look at the actual play, Gumshoe is the only player in the game that has no reason to be town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:20 GMT
#2458
We lynch Gumshoe today.
Fin.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:26 GMT
#2460
On March 10 2014 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
We lynch Gumshoe today.
Fin.

Start voting folks. This bus is taking off today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:42 GMT
#2471
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:43 GMT
#2472
On March 10 2014 08:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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EBWOP
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:44 GMT
#2473
On March 10 2014 08:31 gumshoe wrote:
Alright, honestly I don't think much more could be expected of me this game XD god speed town, god save the jail keeper.

So you've actually been lurking the thread all this time without commenting?
Pls lynch with fire.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 09 2014 23:47 GMT
#2476
On March 10 2014 08:45 Xatalos wrote:
Was this a scumslip Artanis? Was it?

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