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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 22:39 GMT
#2421
If Gumshoe is PGO vet with 3 night lives it's possible, but that seems excessive.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:41 GMT
#2422
Certainly not Oats (no role) or Hopeless (he talked a lot about seeing his action etc.). Or you (you were going to protect him after all). Or me or LSB. I guess Palmar/prplhz/gumshoe could be potential targets. Or then he just didn't RB anyone.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 22:43 GMT
#2423
Gumshoe is the only realistic target as Palmar already fired and prplhz is a dayvig so he has no night action, plus I don't think he suspected prplhz. If Marv rbed, it was on Gumshoe, and given how he wanted the role and how Austin's flip showed that roleblocks can have significant effects I would be surprised if he didn't try to rb him.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:44 GMT
#2424
Hmm, I guess gumshoe is the most likely option. If he became a Super-Vet-PGO with immunity to RB, then it would also explain the night actions. That's already stretching the limits of realism though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:45 GMT
#2425
gumshoe, are you fifth-dimensional planar dragon? Are you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:46 GMT
#2426
The only possibility at this point is a bus drive ability, since that makes night actions simple, you bus drive Gumshoe and Marv and everything makes sense. Every other explanation revolves around someone being a vet vig.

That means Gumshoe is town. This is assuming bus drivers can't bus themselves.

This also means directed Kp is horrible. I will not say who I will shoot if I survive the lynch because that would be a pretty bad idea.

This leaves us needing to verify
Palmar
LSB
Prphz

Of which I am the only one at this point who has the ability to verify one of the others. I am also the only one at this stage that might be able to keep Xata alive this night. All I can say is that it is a huge gamble lynching me

The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two? I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 22:47 GMT
#2427
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
This also means directed Kp is horrible. I will not say who I will shoot if I survive the lynch because that would be a pretty bad idea.

On March 09 2014 19:10 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, once JOAT uses *any* ability once, he becomes a vanilla. So LSB should have no more powers if he used an ability last night (which he claims).

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:48 GMT
#2428
LSB, you didn't read the part where it was confirmed that you're essentially a vanilla at this point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:48 GMT
#2429
"I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that."

Was this straight from the ScumQT?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:49 GMT
#2430
So much for being a jack of all trades
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 22:49 GMT
#2431
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.

On March 03 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Setup

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor. At the start of Day 1 all players will receive the one of the following PMs:
Vanilla Townie
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win when there are no more remaining Mafia players.

Mafia Goon
You are a Mafia Goon. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win the game when Mafia players equal or outnumber the Town and/or Third Party players remaining in the game.

Third Party Survivor
You are a vanilla Third Party Survivor. You receive an extra bulletproof vest to absorbs the first KP which targets you (this works against factional KP). Otherwise, you have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role. If you survive until End Game, then you win the game alongside Town or Scum.

Please stop making terrible assumptions.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:52 GMT
#2432
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 22:52 GMT
#2433
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two?

Gumshoe getting +1 vest and a PGO ability would fit with the role of veteran and it's two defensive abilities, versus another offensive ability for palmar plus some ability for him to prevent a hit on gumshoe (why would he do that?), or him busdriving. Tell me, how does a busdriving assassin make any sense?!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 22:53 GMT
#2434
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

I agree with this. I think we should lynch Gumshoe instead because too many shenanigans have taken place.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:53 GMT
#2435
On March 10 2014 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two?

Gumshoe getting +1 vest and a PGO ability would fit with the role of veteran and it's two defensive abilities, versus another offensive ability for palmar plus some ability for him to prevent a hit on gumshoe (why would he do that?), or him busdriving. Tell me, how does a busdriving assassin make any sense?!


This needs a Paint picture. Badly.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:55 GMT
#2436
On March 10 2014 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Setup

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor. At the start of Day 1 all players will receive the one of the following PMs:
Vanilla Townie
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win when there are no more remaining Mafia players.

Mafia Goon
You are a Mafia Goon. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win the game when Mafia players equal or outnumber the Town and/or Third Party players remaining in the game.

Third Party Survivor
You are a vanilla Third Party Survivor. You receive an extra bulletproof vest to absorbs the first KP which targets you (this works against factional KP). Otherwise, you have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role. If you survive until End Game, then you win the game alongside Town or Scum.

Please stop making terrible assumptions.

You saw Austinmcc's role right? It doesn't suggest that either you are correct or I am correct, it implies either explanation is likely
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:56 GMT
#2437
Dunno. This game seems to hardly make any sense. I guess there's something huge we're missing... But I somehow can't picture how gumshoe could be scum with his Veteran role.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:56 GMT
#2438
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

Lynching prphz or Palmar.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:57 GMT
#2439
On March 10 2014 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno. This game seems to hardly make any sense. I guess there's something huge we're missing... But I somehow can't picture how gumshoe could be scum with his Veteran role.

What's wrong with my explanation? It only relies on there being a bus drive ability in the game.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:59 GMT
#2440
On March 10 2014 07:56 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

Lynching prphz or Palmar.


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