• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:57
CEST 23:57
KST 06:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection6Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? What kind of tool would you be interested in? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BW animated web series: seeking contributors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9547 users

Handslaps and Fisticuff: A PYP Mini [M][T] - Page 122

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 120 121 122 123 124 128 Next
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 09 2014 22:39 GMT
#2421
If Gumshoe is PGO vet with 3 night lives it's possible, but that seems excessive.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:41 GMT
#2422
Certainly not Oats (no role) or Hopeless (he talked a lot about seeing his action etc.). Or you (you were going to protect him after all). Or me or LSB. I guess Palmar/prplhz/gumshoe could be potential targets. Or then he just didn't RB anyone.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 09 2014 22:43 GMT
#2423
Gumshoe is the only realistic target as Palmar already fired and prplhz is a dayvig so he has no night action, plus I don't think he suspected prplhz. If Marv rbed, it was on Gumshoe, and given how he wanted the role and how Austin's flip showed that roleblocks can have significant effects I would be surprised if he didn't try to rb him.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:44 GMT
#2424
Hmm, I guess gumshoe is the most likely option. If he became a Super-Vet-PGO with immunity to RB, then it would also explain the night actions. That's already stretching the limits of realism though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:45 GMT
#2425
gumshoe, are you fifth-dimensional planar dragon? Are you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:46 GMT
#2426
The only possibility at this point is a bus drive ability, since that makes night actions simple, you bus drive Gumshoe and Marv and everything makes sense. Every other explanation revolves around someone being a vet vig.

That means Gumshoe is town. This is assuming bus drivers can't bus themselves.

This also means directed Kp is horrible. I will not say who I will shoot if I survive the lynch because that would be a pretty bad idea.

This leaves us needing to verify
Palmar
LSB
Prphz

Of which I am the only one at this point who has the ability to verify one of the others. I am also the only one at this stage that might be able to keep Xata alive this night. All I can say is that it is a huge gamble lynching me

The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two? I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 09 2014 22:47 GMT
#2427
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
This also means directed Kp is horrible. I will not say who I will shoot if I survive the lynch because that would be a pretty bad idea.

On March 09 2014 19:10 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, once JOAT uses *any* ability once, he becomes a vanilla. So LSB should have no more powers if he used an ability last night (which he claims).

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:48 GMT
#2428
LSB, you didn't read the part where it was confirmed that you're essentially a vanilla at this point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:48 GMT
#2429
"I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that."

Was this straight from the ScumQT?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:49 GMT
#2430
So much for being a jack of all trades
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 09 2014 22:49 GMT
#2431
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.

On March 03 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Setup

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor. At the start of Day 1 all players will receive the one of the following PMs:
Vanilla Townie
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win when there are no more remaining Mafia players.

Mafia Goon
You are a Mafia Goon. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win the game when Mafia players equal or outnumber the Town and/or Third Party players remaining in the game.

Third Party Survivor
You are a vanilla Third Party Survivor. You receive an extra bulletproof vest to absorbs the first KP which targets you (this works against factional KP). Otherwise, you have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role. If you survive until End Game, then you win the game alongside Town or Scum.

Please stop making terrible assumptions.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:52 GMT
#2432
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 09 2014 22:52 GMT
#2433
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two?

Gumshoe getting +1 vest and a PGO ability would fit with the role of veteran and it's two defensive abilities, versus another offensive ability for palmar plus some ability for him to prevent a hit on gumshoe (why would he do that?), or him busdriving. Tell me, how does a busdriving assassin make any sense?!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 09 2014 22:53 GMT
#2434
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

I agree with this. I think we should lynch Gumshoe instead because too many shenanigans have taken place.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:53 GMT
#2435
On March 10 2014 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
The whole entire "Palmar can't have two abilities" argument is so bullshit really. You are willing to accept Gumshoe having 3 abilities but not palmar having two?

Gumshoe getting +1 vest and a PGO ability would fit with the role of veteran and it's two defensive abilities, versus another offensive ability for palmar plus some ability for him to prevent a hit on gumshoe (why would he do that?), or him busdriving. Tell me, how does a busdriving assassin make any sense?!


This needs a Paint picture. Badly.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:55 GMT
#2436
On March 10 2014 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:46 LSB wrote:
I'm going to assume that the mafia role PM tells you if you are "Goon, GF, or Roleblocker" and then you can select an additional ability off of that.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Setup

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a semi-open setup for 12 players. There will be either 9 Town and 3 scum or 9 Town, 2 Scum and 1 Third Party Survivor. At the start of Day 1 all players will receive the one of the following PMs:
Vanilla Townie
You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win when there are no more remaining Mafia players.

Mafia Goon
You are a Mafia Goon. You have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role pm if you successfully draft a new role. You win the game when Mafia players equal or outnumber the Town and/or Third Party players remaining in the game.

Third Party Survivor
You are a vanilla Third Party Survivor. You receive an extra bulletproof vest to absorbs the first KP which targets you (this works against factional KP). Otherwise, you have no special powers other than your vote as of yet. At the end of Day 1 you may receive a new role. If you survive until End Game, then you win the game alongside Town or Scum.

Please stop making terrible assumptions.

You saw Austinmcc's role right? It doesn't suggest that either you are correct or I am correct, it implies either explanation is likely
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:56 GMT
#2437
Dunno. This game seems to hardly make any sense. I guess there's something huge we're missing... But I somehow can't picture how gumshoe could be scum with his Veteran role.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:56 GMT
#2438
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

Lynching prphz or Palmar.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 22:57 GMT
#2439
On March 10 2014 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno. This game seems to hardly make any sense. I guess there's something huge we're missing... But I somehow can't picture how gumshoe could be scum with his Veteran role.

What's wrong with my explanation? It only relies on there being a bus drive ability in the game.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 22:59 GMT
#2440
On March 10 2014 07:56 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm, dunno why scum LSB would claim that gumshoe is town though. It's the only realistic other option for today :/

Who would you propose then LSB?

Lynching prphz or Palmar.


[image blocked]
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Prev 1 120 121 122 123 124 128 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech94
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 22
Dota 2
monkeys_forever625
capcasts181
NeuroSwarm93
Super Smash Bros
PPMD35
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu428
Other Games
summit1g11800
Grubby4668
uThermal843
shahzam754
byalli421
C9.Mang0325
Mew2King38
UpATreeSC37
ViBE9
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV236
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 38
• davetesta7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1314
• Shiphtur329
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 4m
Replay Cast
11h 4m
Kung Fu Cup
13h 4m
Maestros of the Game
17h 4m
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
Maestros of the Game
1d 17h
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
OSC
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.