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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:03 GMT
#2381
Yeah, that's true. So we can 100% know IF Xatalos got his check before the daypost as it'd mean Gumshoe would've been informed of being shot before the daypost went up. If he got it right after, it depends on the timing that prplhz sent it in, but it's going to be minutes so I doubt that will be conclusive as geript could've just f5'd late.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:11 GMT
#2382
Actually this stuff might be against the rule. I think it should be fair to find out in which phase the shot was made but the exact timing probably shouldn't be revealed. It should be discernable if someone was shot by a dayvig or a vig if it was close, but we shouldn't be able to confirm him based on the exact timing thing. I think it's fair if Xatalos tells us if he was told just before or just after but we probably shouldn't go further than that.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 09 2014 21:13 GMT
#2383
On March 10 2014 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually this stuff might be against the rule. I think it should be fair to find out in which phase the shot was made but the exact timing probably shouldn't be revealed. It should be discernable if someone was shot by a dayvig or a vig if it was close, but we shouldn't be able to confirm him based on the exact timing thing. I think it's fair if Xatalos tells us if he was told just before or just after but we probably shouldn't go further than that.


In that case I cant be certain prplz didnt shoot marv last night ) : can we at least ask xata if he got his check before or after day post?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:30 GMT
#2384
Yeah, that's what I said in the post.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 09 2014 21:32 GMT
#2385
On March 10 2014 06:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah, that's what I said in the post.


Becoming Artanis step 2: Rephrase everything he says and pass it off as your own. Check.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:36 GMT
#2386
My check result came just after the deadline (and the daypost came exactly at the deadline).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:37 GMT
#2387
Boo hiss.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:38 GMT
#2388
*just after* as in around a minute or so
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:39 GMT
#2389
Whatever, prplhz is town anyway.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:41 GMT
#2390
On March 10 2014 04:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway if it isn't LSB then this game is really dumb.
LSB's confidence could also come from the DT ability turning into a framing ability for scum and being able to frame himself to look as town so he'd be confirmed town. And he could be allowed to use two abilities. Would be a pretty OP role then but those kinda roles are all we're potentially left with anyway, and JOAT makes the most sense for it.


I doubt it'd be two powers at the same time. It's possible that it was just a risk he took. Actually if I redchecked him he'd be screwed anyway, so why not?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:43 GMT
#2391
On March 10 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 04:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway if it isn't LSB then this game is really dumb.
LSB's confidence could also come from the DT ability turning into a framing ability for scum and being able to frame himself to look as town so he'd be confirmed town. And he could be allowed to use two abilities. Would be a pretty OP role then but those kinda roles are all we're potentially left with anyway, and JOAT makes the most sense for it.


I doubt it'd be two powers at the same time. It's possible that it was just a risk he took. Actually if I redchecked him he'd be screwed anyway, so why not?

He could've busdriven himself with marv, let gum die and have you "greencheck" him.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:44 GMT
#2392
I won't be there at the deadline, but I leave you, Artanis, to handle the lynch LSB is very probably the best lynch. If he's town, we'll have to think of something else, but for now I think it's him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:46 GMT
#2393
Stay awhile if you can, I need to discuss this.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:46 GMT
#2394
On March 10 2014 06:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 10 2014 04:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway if it isn't LSB then this game is really dumb.
LSB's confidence could also come from the DT ability turning into a framing ability for scum and being able to frame himself to look as town so he'd be confirmed town. And he could be allowed to use two abilities. Would be a pretty OP role then but those kinda roles are all we're potentially left with anyway, and JOAT makes the most sense for it.


I doubt it'd be two powers at the same time. It's possible that it was just a risk he took. Actually if I redchecked him he'd be screwed anyway, so why not?

He could've busdriven himself with marv, let gum die and have you "greencheck" him.


Then gumshoe would be dead now and marv would be alive?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:47 GMT
#2395
On March 10 2014 06:46 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 06:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 10 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 10 2014 04:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway if it isn't LSB then this game is really dumb.
LSB's confidence could also come from the DT ability turning into a framing ability for scum and being able to frame himself to look as town so he'd be confirmed town. And he could be allowed to use two abilities. Would be a pretty OP role then but those kinda roles are all we're potentially left with anyway, and JOAT makes the most sense for it.


I doubt it'd be two powers at the same time. It's possible that it was just a risk he took. Actually if I redchecked him he'd be screwed anyway, so why not?

He could've busdriven himself with marv, let gum die and have you "greencheck" him.


Then gumshoe would be dead now and marv would be alive?

Yeah, and he would be confirmed town because you got a greencheck on him. Why wouldn't he do that?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:50 GMT
#2396
Hmm. I'd say killing marv instead of gumshoe is a pretty big plus. Also I didn't really give the impression that I was going to check LSB from my thread presence... Maybe he felt like he had to take a risk?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:52 GMT
#2397
On March 10 2014 06:50 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm. I'd say killing marv instead of gumshoe is a pretty big plus. Also I didn't really give the impression that I was going to check LSB from my thread presence... Maybe he felt like he had to take a risk?

But we told the DT's to check each other, I'd imagine he'd find it likely that he'd be checked. And getting ticked off as confirmed town after a gf flip as well as nothing funky happening with nk's so no one is surprised that gumshoe flips would be pretty good for him. I'd imagine it's worth the tradeoff with not shooting Marv.
I have the feeling we're missing an option here, or a night action being different than we think. The bus driver theory alone doesn't cut it for me.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:52 GMT
#2398
This was my last post before the night deadline:

On March 08 2014 03:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 01:46 marvellosity wrote:
I mean

LSB and Xatalos can cop each other

then it doesn't even matter if everyone else dies...


Btw what does this mean? We should check each other? Why?


It really doesn't give the impression that my check was locked on LSB....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 09 2014 21:54 GMT
#2399
Hmmm. Still, there was a clear call for people to organize their actions, but you could be right.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 21:54 GMT
#2400
It's pretty hard to rely so much on role speculation. I guess it's possible that the truth is something we haven't even thought about yet...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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