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geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together? | ||
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As per your question, I have hunches on some things, but nothing I feel is actually worth saying atm. | ||
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On February 26 2014 10:51 TheChyz wrote: geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together? Welcome back geript, got a question waiting for you still... | ||
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On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards. But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched. Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case. Also in bold, I have never as town thought "does calling you something make me look scummy". It's only something scum usually worries about. | ||
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On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote: A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind. All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. ##Vote geript | ||
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Also suki just rubbing me the wrong way with here weird defensiveness and interactions with mocsta. Not sure what but something from reading her filter just doesn't seem right. And somethings on mocsta but I have to re-read his filter to see what. Mostly I just remember his very jumpy nature from a target to another and his vote is very weak in my opinion. But nothing I think will lead anywhere atm and just something to maybe keep an eye | ||
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On February 26 2014 09:38 Mocsta wrote: Sukmi U seem most out of place for me so far Everyone else is relatively carefree whereas u seem more try hard - in particular your claim is overly worded I get the history with toad, but your approach is not conducive towards gleaning alignment either On February 26 2014 09:55 Mocsta wrote: This is an unusually passive aggressive approach for early game.- And something I throw out as scum all the time. Instead of trying to understand if my read on u is genuine or feigned, u play the psychological game and twist my lack of vote as something scummy. That diversion is it self very scummy. Now suki, were u aware harry potter is not in the game?? On February 26 2014 10:07 Mocsta wrote: suki. I am confused why u r actually voting me. U have listed actions u think I have taken, yet failed to comment on why those actions are scummy. Can u go into more detail please. | ||
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On February 27 2014 01:05 geript wrote: Yah, it's super easy because your reasons for calling him town are completely fail. You "completely get" how I can have a townread on him for how he responds but that doesn't factor into ANY OF YOUR REASONS for him being town. Like Rayn not calling you a retard doesn't make him anything in this or any other situation. Rayn not causing chaos and confusion actually makes him more likely to be scum; have you even seen half of his town games. Every other game or so Rayn is fucking awful as town and is worse for town than if he were scum; hell he'd even say this. More importantly, he doesn't operate to cause chaos and confusion as scum; he tries to lead town to mislynches all along the way. Saving lynchbait Toadescum for later is a peachy keen plan. Rayn calling you town doesn't make him anything in this or any other situation. You visably recognize and understand how I can have a townread on him, your beef is that it doesn't extend to you for something that's completely trolly and 100% not alignment indicative of ANYONE LET ALONE YOU BISH. Get over it scum. So let me get this straight, your still pissy about toad thinking rayn is town. Why? That doesn't help scum hunt in the slightest. All your doing is clogging up the thread trying to convince others that their town read is wrong. Guess what, not everybody will have the same town reads as you. It's not towns job to find town, its towns job to eliminate scum. | ||
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On February 27 2014 01:19 JarJarDrinks wrote: OK I'm flip flopping on Moc again. I really like the fact that he's pushing TheChyz who I'm having a hard time reading any of his posts as town motivated. Look @ how he retracts his read on me: His retraction here doesn't make sense. Here's my statement in question: Him saying that he "kept thinking [I] was refering to mocsta and not gumshoe" makes no sense whatsoever. He retracted his statement cause of thread sentiment and came up w/ a BS reason. LOL JJD. I don't get it. so if im wrong on something for misreading it I'm suppose to still push the case? It's super scummy if you think about it in this sentence "I [JJD] think its way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" which is what I kept on thinking it was. So my dropping my case cause i messed up a read is wrong? I was refferring to gumshoe about mocsta. Chz thought I was scummy because he thought I was referring to myself about mocsta. | ||
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On February 27 2014 05:46 Holyflare wrote: Still want thechyz to answer this by the way it's the only thing i want him to write about before i get a stance on him x_x I was getting shit for playing the way I wanted to play and people wouldn't stop circlejerking around the fact that I don't play like they expect. So instead of trying to argue about philosophies in which is such a tangential topic I decided that I would have to learn to play the TL way and give them what they expect of me and that is to make a case. And also I had my thoughts on geript as most scummy for quiet some time in the game so thats why I talked about him. | ||
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On February 27 2014 04:37 Vivax wrote: I'd rather find it odd/scummy if I had mentioned the vote-leader and not anyone else. Leave no stone unturned. I don't think he's scum at the moment. I'd rather not expand on the reasons cause: 1. I could be wrong and I'd be taking away pressure from him. 2. I prefer to focus on the people I find suspicious. Also in bolded it just seems very manufactured and why would you not be willing to share a read on someone no matter what is happening to them. Especially if someone is being voted on quiet a bit, if you think they aren't scum, wouldn't you atleast look at him/her more to see why that is the case and make your case on it instead of ignoring it. It's like he is ok if town were to mislynch because he didn't want to take any pressure off me. Might be just me but it seemed hella weird. | ||
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On February 27 2014 08:03 Vivax wrote: Chyz I have a question Can you go into detail on why you found the vote very weak at the time? Mind you that this post triggered Mocs vote on you. Also do you think Moc or geript is a better lynch today? I believe that was when his vote was on gumshoe. Basically he was agreeing with gumshoe all game until this post. On February 26 2014 11:37 Mocsta wrote: hmm I didnt get WoS point about and/or But rereading this from JJD post, I noticed something stick out to me. The stuff in red/blue is the biggest load of marketing crap I have read in this game so far. So nothing on gumshoe all game long and suddenly he doesn't like his marketting crap? And then later ironically he unvotes gumshoe for "pulling on his strings". Kinda ironic since the marketing crap talks "How someones posting makes us feel can easily influence our perception of them". | ||
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On February 27 2014 07:59 TheChyz wrote: I was getting shit for playing the way I wanted to play and people wouldn't stop circlejerking around the fact that I don't play like they expect. So instead of trying to argue about philosophies in which is such a tangential topic I decided that I would have to learn to play the TL way and give them what they expect of me and that is to make a case. And also I had my thoughts on geript as most scummy for quiet some time in the game so thats why I talked about him. | ||
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On February 27 2014 11:57 geript wrote: [/b]No, Mocs town. Vivax town. Suki new. Calvininho is new. So there's 4 people to vote for and 1 is 100% scum. Geript quick response please without re-reading thread, is there any other reason as to why toad is scum apart from that 1 interaction with rayn early on? | ||
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On February 27 2014 05:52 geript wrote: I think he's town but that's only based on his post about having to go to his computer to post or something. WaveofShadow Holyflare gumshoe Ange777 Toadesstern Cavalinho JarJarDrinks TheChyz soft tho suki raynpelikoneet Mocsta soft tho Vivax Geript So what do yout hink about suki and gumshoe? I haven't really looked at them. On February 27 2014 11:40 geript wrote: [/b]So I can vote for the following peeps: HF Gummybear JJD [red]Toadscum How did your read on change from nulls on both HF and JJD to a possible vote? Like apart from the random vote early on JJD you haven't really talked about these 2 much but suddenly they fall under the people you are ok lynching. Your thought process is abysmal. Explain | ||
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On February 27 2014 12:10 gumshoe wrote: If I was angry about rolling scum every game, I would troll to make up the difference in enjoyment and when If I finally did roll town I would be elated and of course to be all but declared scum soon after would crush me. Mocsta's melancholy makes absolute sense in my eyes. There is also a difference between conceding as a depressed townie and rage quiting as scum, he offers us a list he absolutely doesnt have to, scum Moc would just say "fuck this town, everyone so bad" and not offer us more reads to go off. Moc is not in a place to put this much effort into a game as scum, hes not scum, stop calling him scum. Like I understand coming from GSL that you would think that. I was able to obs the game and my conclusion at the start of this game was the same, but it was only that, at the very start. I don't know how you all play and such so I just commented that Mocsta atm was the only person that gave off a townie vibe. However as the game progresses that same logic can't be applied. Just because he puts more effort is not a valid reason for you to guarantee that mocsta is not scum. Like mentioned by rayn (?) the GSL game was just a drawn out lurker fest which is actually probably the reason why mocsta got so antsy. Stop sticking to this argument this late in the game, its useless. | ||
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He starts off with his vote on toad for thinking rayn is town. This has been the only argument he has made on toad apart from the one he made a few posts ago. So over the course of most of the game he has provided no reasons for wanting to lynch toad apart from that early thing he keeps blabbing about. On February 26 2014 10:38 geript wrote: Mental note: Rayn and Toad very unlikely to be scum together. Also posts this and when I later call him out on it (and others) he tries making some reasons that are terrible, but again, come after a long time which seems like a common theme from him so far. On February 26 2014 09:47 geript wrote: No I don't. Look at the reason for the read he gave and don't tell me it's not bullshit. On February 26 2014 12:24 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote jarjardrinks I feel better about this. Rayn explain why. Whats with all of this about asking rayn why you [geript] are thinking this way? Shouldn't you connect the dots for town and not make other do the work for you? On February 26 2014 12:48 geript wrote: As in, I don't give a frak what I look like as town because I'm fraking town. Like it's a really weird perspective to think, "no but it'd be super scummy for me to sheep that terrible of a case" as coming from town because who as town is seriously concerned with their image that much. It's what you do that matters as town and not how it looks. As happened before, I always find it strange when people start talking about image. It might just be a philosophy thing I have but it still irks me the wrong way. On February 26 2014 22:24 geript wrote: [/b]Toad calls for millers to claim Rayn asks Toad if he's a miller Toad says no but he likes the question Rayn's response to Toadescum is like really really towny; it's an exceptionally off the cuff and funny that it's very hard to come from scum. The problem is that it's rayn and he's done this as either alignment many times. So that's why it's only semi-alignment indicative for Rayn. The thing is, at no point does any of this help read Toad; the initial miller thing isn't alignment indicative; recognizing Rayn's response as towny isn't alignment indicative. Like the only thing that's happened since him returning to the thread for him is nothing. If he were town, he'd at least try to give me an honest read. But since he's not he's probably just scum who fixated on a dashing sexy guy. [b\##unvote ##vote toadescum Also his argument continues to be that he gets back onto the toad scum case and he uses the case the toad is not giving him [geript] an honest read? Please, you haven't given anyone an honest read all game and just tunneling on mostly 1 person while ignoring everything else around you. Hypocritical much? He makes many posts about toad that are useless so won't add them all since that would just be redundant at this point. On February 27 2014 12:26 geript wrote: Sweet. I just got modconfirmed town. THanks. He calls him modconfirmed for no reason really other than a terrible reason and yet he continues to talk about it further... On February 27 2014 16:50 geript wrote: Goddammit then look at him and read him again with a fresh mind. On February 27 2014 17:06 geript wrote: Nope not going to do it. I have a townread on him and I refuse to read any more shazazzly cases on him. So he tells rayn to look again with a fresh mind but when rayn asks for the same he refuses? Again this is him being one of the worst towns as possible or as scum just trying to keep up the act he has been doing the whole time so that people think because he is to tunnel visioned that he can't be scum. On February 27 2014 12:46 geript wrote: Nah effort has nothing to do with why I think he's town. It has to do with looking at the game from his perspective and seeing how is reads and thought process evolves. Like him, wave and I were newbies (and experienced newb) together so we have loads of history. On February 27 2014 12:49 TheChyz wrote: ok geript is BS'ing right now. That was to gumshoe (anybody who has paid any attention would know that) and he somehow rolls with it and tries to explain the reasoning for it. Come on guys. he's literally making shit up to defend himself from accusations that he didn't make (in this case b/c he misread). Lynch with fire He even respons to an accusation that I use on gumshoe and goes with it as if it was his own and tries to cover it up. Thats a spewing off BS in my opinion. If anybody has anything that they have that can support geript as town I hope you make your case cause I'm either tunneling on him way to hard and missing it or I'm right. | ||
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On February 28 2014 00:16 Mocsta wrote: @Chz Do you think you are playing differently to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz&view=all Yes. | ||
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That game I wanted to be aggressive and use myself as lynch bait to try to find scum. I won't mention what my plan is this game but you can probably realize its not the exact same. | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:33 Vivax wrote: Yeah well I'll give you the newbie benefit cause lynching people you don't find helpful is something you would like to do when you're new to the game. However I don't like that you say you don't mind other people being lynched, since I would expect that you want the person lynched that you DO want to get lynched, and not anybody else you didn't really take a closer look at. Or did you take a closer look at suki and Moc? Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote: See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy. HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......? | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:55 Cavalinho wrote: Go reread. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you if you aren't diving my incredibly short filter. ##Unvote ##vote Mocsta I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:44 TheChyz wrote: Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will | ||
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On February 28 2014 09:06 Mocsta wrote: Sweet I'm confirmed town now so fuck u all I don't think your confirmed by any means. you could possibly be a goon and throwing the lynch on you would make suki + any other scum that might have voted for you look more town. | ||
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On February 28 2014 09:05 Aquanim wrote: [/center]Night One For a group of sophonts who had never experienced great suffering, unrequited needs, or great conflict, the crew developed a mob mentality suprisingly fast. Suki was the first to be thrown out an airlock. Suki the Mafia Godfather has been lynched! Night 1 begins now and will end at Saturday, Mar 01 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). Remember to send any night actions to all hosts via PM. On February 28 2014 09:06 Mocsta wrote: Sweet I'm confirmed town now so fuck u all On February 28 2014 09:19 Mocsta wrote: Where is the proof. I didn't see the flip till 5min after deadline. This is now beyond stupid Exaclty 1 minute actually. So that could mean you were just lurking until after the votes were over. just saying. Why so eager to be confirmed town anyway. Show it in your play and others will realize. | ||
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On February 28 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote: zzz kill ppl not on suki, play adventure with me, relax, win game Even tho I think this was meant as a joke I think that ultimately this is what this game feels like. I don't think any of the scum have any of the votes on suki since there was not substantial votes on her until the end of the day. Also apart from that basically everybody who has voted for suki I read as being town. The only iffy one in there for me is gumshoe. Even for the small posibility there is 1 of the scum that voted for suki, it can't be possible there was 2 (I'm assuming 3 scum at least since thats what it usually is, right?) voting for her. Therefore I think for now we treat those 5 as confirmed towns. Along with that vivax for now gets a confirmed town pass from most people (could change depending what happens after night is over). So the only people that should be left to analyze are myself, mocsta, geript, toad, cava, and JJD. After reading suki's filter more closely I came with a few conclusions. As typical with scum, it is pretty normal for them to have some contact with another scum member in order so that it doesn't really look like they are avoiding them and in order to gain any credibility later on in the game in case they get lynched. A quick summary of her filter is: alot of talk with mocsta early on, asking ppls opinions on mocsta, I'm her second scum read, tries to make a terrible case on my meta, town read on Wos, goes a bit on vivax by sheeping WoS, again more questions about mocsta, JJD is town read, geript is weird as FU, votes on vivax, asks holy what thoughts on me are (was really random imo), backs off of vivax, jumps back onto me, lynched to death. (PS, she didn't unvote so dunno if her vote still went through, doesn't really matter, but hopefully someone can confirm if it counts or not so i know just in case for the future). After going through this the only people who are on the list in the last paragraph are myself, mocsta, geript, and JJD. So I think from now on that these are the only people that should be left for town to analyze. I myself know I'm town so for me its down to only 3. But for everybody else I think that town should just focus on these atm as I'm pretty sure one of them is scum. On an aside, I remember pretty well that suki jumped from a null read to suddenly number 2 read from mocsta... even more strange now that we know suki's alignment. | ||
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On February 28 2014 16:31 geript wrote: Rayn here's the situation. Scum has no thread control or presence. I'm calling it. I'm town, you're town, Wave's town, HF's town. Vivax is probably town. Like it's a really big unlynchable circle right now. Thanks for calling my post terrible and basically using almost all of the same confirmed townies that I listed aswell. ++ points to you | ||
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On March 01 2014 15:31 Vivax wrote: I think lynching geript is a better idea Although I don't think geript would be a better lynch atm I think there is something to this that maybe can be explored further. I was kinda thinking that for the most part geript was after toad almost the whole time without really reading into anybody else. So it could have been a play for the lategame so that if one of them dies that the other looks pretty townie for it. On February 28 2014 11:08 geript wrote: The bad news for me is that suki's dig at Toad makes it more likely that he's town. That makes me really sad. After the flip this is what geript has said about toad. Scum were down to 2 (since they start with 3, right?) and it seems like such a release of the gas pedal from 100% toad to just easing off of him. They probably didn't want to go at each others throats anymore in worry that one might get the other lynched and it would be 1 vs town. On February 28 2014 17:50 geript wrote: Votecount Mocsta (1) - geript (2) - TheChyz (1) - Toadesstern (1) - JarJarDrinks (1) - gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow (0) - suki (1) - Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, Not Voting (2)- raynpelikoneet, Cavalinho, Ange777 Ok so here's the votecount that you posted (I added in not voting for completeness). Look what happens when you color it in and remove the strikethroughs. Votecount Mocsta (1) - Vivax geript (2) - TheChyz, Toadesstern TheChyz (1) - suki Toadesstern (1) - Geript JarJarDrinks (1) - Gumshoe gumshoe (1) - JarJarDrinks WaveofShadow (0) - suki (1) - Holyflare Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta Not Voting (2)- raynpelikoneet, Cavalinho, Ange777 Like I know you're a little iffy about Mocsta in a "save it for later" way, but I'm kinda iffy about gumshoe in the same way so I'm splitting the difference and calling them both green. I think we both agree that Chyz is green so no problem there. Look how pretty a split of scum that is; like this is what I'm used to seeing for a mid-day 1 scum vote split. That feels really good; the problem is the following: Votecount Mocsta (5) - Vivax, Toadesstern, JarJarDrinks, [red]suki[red], Cavalinho geript (1) - TheChyz TheChyz (0) - Toadesstern (1) - Geript JarJarDrinks (0) - gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow (0) - suki (5) - Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Gumshoe, WaveofShadow, Ange777 Vivax (1) - Mocsta When you look at it, this means that for that perfect vote split to be true, scum pretty much went all out to try to save suki. Like usually you don't commit more than 2 people to try and save someone. That means that we still need to look at gumshoe, ange, chyz and mocsta. Like less than Toad, JJD, Cavalinho but there'd normally be a the third scum not on Mocsta in this situation. In bold at the bottom is so strange to me because he basically says that we should look at myself, gum, ang and mocsta instead of toad, jjd, cava? Thats just seems like he's trying to ease off the possible pressure that could be coming toad's way. The last scum (assuming we started with 3, god can someone confirm that its 3, or is it possible for 4?) is probably going to be able to blend in well since he/she doesn't have to worry about their fellow teamates, and with geript there isn't much to read off of him apart from him going hard on toad and calling ALOT of people as town reads and not really giving much scum reads | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:44 TheChyz wrote: Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will If I was scum then I had an easy chance to take an out. With votes on moc and suki as the majority I was given an out where I could have voted on moc instead of suki. Note this was just 15 minutes before the deadline. Do you guys really think that the person you have been calling noob all game would be able to bus onto their gf and hope to ride the game till the late game when I could have easily made some reason to lynch moc instead. No. I don't care if you think I'm scum because of things I did before since I have played pretty shit but the argument on me for the last few minutes before the lynch is complete and utter garbage. Anyway I don't know what people are thinking but so far the scum targets on mocsta are 2/3 confirmed. Why stop now? The only people that should be up for a lynch should only be JJD and cava unless somebody is able to provide substantial evidence otherwise. Out of the two I think JJD is the scummiest but will have to filter dive them both. Also all this "If you lynch me, please lynch _____ the next day" is utter BS. If you think the other person is scum why wont you make a case. JJD and gum especially haven't made a single decent case on each other lately other than saying "lynch him, hes scum 100%". That doesn't help town in the slightest and is just clogging up the thread with literally useless posts. | ||
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On March 03 2014 03:43 Vivax wrote: And why weren't you spiteful towards suki when she had been constantly pushing you? I don't like people pushing me. Damned if I do, damned if I don't it seems. People complain that I'm overdefensive but complain if I don't defend. Anyways, here arguments were pretty weak and especially here "meta" case on me from our last game was complete trash. If I got any more traction from others I felt pretty confident I could shut down the arguments easily. Therefore I didn't feel the need to have to defend myself on a terrible case | ||
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On March 01 2014 08:15 geript wrote: JJD's likely to be Mia on the weekends. Like it's another good reason to lynch him. On March 01 2014 23:47 geript wrote: Like I said, waste of time. HF I'm really torn between JJD/Cav. Like Cav looks really scummy but he's got a few things that look really towny too. Wanna help? On March 02 2014 00:20 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote Cavalinho I can't really express it, but I think JJD's town. I still expect those posts tho JJD On March 02 2014 00:21 geript wrote: For the record it has nothing to do with JJD's recent posting. On March 02 2014 00:54 geript wrote: Votecount Mocsta (1) - geript (2) - TheChyz (1) - Toadesstern (1) - JarJarDrinks (1) - gumshoe (1) - WaveofShadow (0) - suki (1) - Vivax (2) - WaveofShadow, Not Voting (2)- raynpelikoneet, Cavalinho, Ange777 Ok so it's like really odd for 2 scum to be on me at this point. Scum really like to spread out their votes. Besides, like Chyz has been really, really towny all game. Noob but really towny. Ok so Chyz gets a pass for me. On JJD: This is a really, really hard post for scum to make. It's clear frustration. Like when you read his filter, he's tunneled on my gummybear the whole time, but he still gets off of him at points in really towny ways. So like the only person left not on Suki is Cav. Process of elimination. On March 02 2014 05:18 geript wrote: Look gummy bear I know you want to be right too. And if you are I'll personally dance naked in the streets signing how amazingly you played this game. I'll even take photos just for you. But me and JJD have history. I really think he's town. And my townreads have been damn good so far. Like Cav is really the first best option. Geripts logic --> lynch JJD -- torn between JJD/cava -- don't know why but JJD is town, votes cava -- JJD being town has nothing to do with recent posts tho -- uses some shitty argument which makes NO sense to me other than a feels read -- another feel read. In conclusion, why would anybody listen to you geript? All you have basically said is that JJD feels like town to you. I don't really care how good your feels are, but that isn't good enough imo. So if you have an actual case that you think you can make that proves cava over a JJD lynch then be my guest. But there are way too many holes in JJD's play that seem way too scummy with all of these flips. | ||
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On March 03 2014 04:03 TheChyz wrote: Hey JJD, why did you have your second scum read on moc day 1? Rereading your filter day 1 you don't provide any reasons as to why you think he is scum except that he is your second scum read. Explain please. | ||
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On March 03 2014 08:40 JarJarDrinks wrote: And I thought suki was town like vivax said. Moc was a suspect of mine alot but I certainly wasnt sure of him because what I still think was a scumslip of gumshoe. I wasnt happy Moc was the alt wagon but I voted him cause I liked suki. I really just wanted gumshoe lynched. You still havent given a reason why you think he was a suspect, you just keep saying he is. I'm a 3 meters tall, but I will never show you a photo. Does that make sense to you? Cause that is what your argument is sounding like. | ||
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On March 02 2014 07:53 TheChyz wrote: Most of the cases of me being scum seems to do alot with my voting near the deadline. If I was scum then I had an easy chance to take an out. With votes on moc and suki as the majority I was given an out where I could have voted on moc instead of suki. Note this was just 15 minutes before the deadline. Do you guys really think that the person you have been calling noob all game would be able to bus onto their gf and hope to ride the game till the late game when I could have easily made some reason to lynch moc instead. No. I don't care if you think I'm scum because of things I did before since I have played pretty shit but the argument on me for the last few minutes before the lynch is complete and utter garbage. Anyway I don't know what people are thinking but so far the scum targets on mocsta are 2/3 confirmed. Why stop now? The only people that should be up for a lynch should only be JJD and cava unless somebody is able to provide substantial evidence otherwise. Out of the two I think JJD is the scummiest but will have to filter dive them both. Also all this "If you lynch me, please lynch _____ the next day" is utter BS. If you think the other person is scum why wont you make a case. JJD and gum especially haven't made a single decent case on each other lately other than saying "lynch him, hes scum 100%". That doesn't help town in the slightest and is just clogging up the thread with literally useless posts. | ||
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On March 03 2014 09:15 gumshoe wrote: Oh shit your right, fuck, goddamit, thats such a huge misplay T_T why did no one think about it? I tried saying that before, but I guess I just wasn't able to express it properly. | ||
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Not only that but once we started today he seems to be right back and maybe even in a more retarded attitude than on day 1 with him trying to say stuff about modconfirmed town and just spewing BS all over his posts with him not ever really saying who he thinks todays lynch should be. Especially his latest thing of "lets ask around the circle thing" is so LOL worthy. Like what a good way to cover up who you think is scum and not by wasting time talking about town and not really giving a straightforward answer. He hasn't really given his scum read for todays lynch and his reasoning on voting on ange is double LOL worthy. I kinda sidetracked about the whole attitude thing but now looking back in hindsight to me it seems like this: play like an ass, bus partner -- shit, gf died, gotta go back to town mode -- shit, bussed scum buddy died -- ok i can kill cop with mislynch, time to go all out -- ok 4 townies down, can go back to being an ass and using my bus early to ride me to victory --asshole mode engaged, waste time, give no reads. That's how I'm reading geript atm. Along with just this overall sense off scummyness from him On March 05 2014 05:31 geript wrote: Ok you have reasons on her too. That's fine. Like I really don't care. I'd much rather just agree on someone, practically anyone, assume we're going to mislynch and talk about whoever is going to make it to the next day. Like we can policy lynch Ange for 2 page filter, Chyz for not being on suki, me for being too goddamn awesome. I'd mych rather pull a Gonzaw and say "Let's look at X person. Let's assume this person is scum and then ask ourselves why wasn't it obvious earlier." I feel like yesterday we all just phoned it in and I see no reason to allow that today. This way we have like 84 hours to discuss a lynch instead of 48. Is this a scum slip, where he would just rather agree on someone for the sheer fact just to get a lynch? Why would you play assuming you're going to mislynch. He's basically saying not to give a damn who is going to get lynched today and focus on the next guy? WTF thats so stupid. Every lynch should be an opportunity to get scum. On March 05 2014 03:32 geript wrote: No. Even if suki came out and claimed GF, even if she was modconfirmed scum. Like even then I'm not sure I would've voted her over keeping my vote on Toad. Toad was my read. One that like all you guys gave a pass on so many times so awfully. Like, I really don't understand why you even think I'm scum. It's so incomprehensible and comical to me. It's just making me smile. And gonna leave this last one here, just think about it. confirmed scum and chance to lynch, nope my read is better. Why? Exactly my dear Watson, its cause he's scum. ##VOTE geript | ||
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To me geript u seem to feed around the bush with your posts. Here's an easy one. Who would you Lynch and make a case y. Nothing about this person or that person being town or your second scum. ONE person, ONE good case | ||
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On March 06 2014 14:15 geript wrote: You know whatever. You want to be an ass then be an ass. I've tried too many times to get you to actually try and do something. I can't even tell you how badly I want to get myself mod killed just as a big fuck you HF. Instead I'm going to do exactly what I said. I'm going to write a huge ass case on why you're scum. That way scum will take you to endgame for an easy freebie lynch. If you're town, you deserve to lose the game. Like 100%. You're scummy as hell. Have been the whole game. I think everybody agrees this is how they feel about you, kinda ironic coming from you lol. Having trouble with someone playing like an ass? Join the club, going 3 days strong. | ||
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On March 07 2014 13:15 gumshoe wrote: Im sorry if youve been asked this before, but why didnt you switch your vote off of geript when we were at 5 5? 2) When you asked that we should lynch someone else cause jar jar was getting modkilled, who did you think we would lynch had we followed your advice? Honestly I just didn't like geript's attitude and it was in spite of him. As mentioned many times before I was around deadline so any I would have been able to vote last minute. Honestly I kinda regret it cause that is what everybody starts a case on me with, is that stupid early voting stuff day 1 and other than that nobody really says anything else unless they are grabbing for things from thin air. I took back my statement because we had something like 30-ish minutes left. And to get town to cooperate in a hectic time frame like that just didn't seem likely. I would have rather gone with a lynch that we talked about for many hours than something cooked up in under an hour. Also I really thought cava was scum b/c of his vote on his check (which still makes no sense to me) | ||
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On March 07 2014 13:20 gumshoe wrote: Last question, you didn't feel the need to discuss night actions with us at all, why? What do you mean by night actions, like what to do at night? | ||
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On March 07 2014 13:23 Holyflare wrote: Ok chyz, i want to ask you: A) where did your town read on toad come from? B) where did your scum read on suki come from? C) where did your read on mocsta disappear to? I read toad as town early on because I actually could understand the logic of the miller thing with rayn early on. Also afterwards I didn't really find anything jump out in his play as scummy to me. All of his cases made some sense to me and I could follow the logic behind them (even if I didn't agree with them) My scum read on suki came when she started to talk about the meta from the last game we played together. Basically she was saying that because I was playing the SAME like i did last game that I was scum (in which that game i was town). All of her reasonings on me were terrible and just trying to find something to latch onto me. Also she seemed to chime in about me when suspicion grew on me, so it seemed like she was a candidate of just wanting in on an early mislynch I wouldn't say it disappeared but he was probably the lowest out of all the people that I thought played scummy. If I had to rank them it would probably be geript, suki/vivax, cava, mocsta. I think that out of all of them mocsta had started making better casses as the day progressed. I don't really go after people day 1 because of 1 shitty case as long as they fix their play as the day progresses. | ||
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This is the only way that I think that I can help win the game. I don't think I will be able to have a good enough case on WoS or HF to be able to convince all of you that the one who I think is scum actually is. However if it goes to next day I would be hopefully able to make a good enough case so that gum will know why either WoS or HF is scum. Too bad there's no way to actually kill myself without breaking the rules, cause then that would make you guys actually think. Scum can you please kill me night if we dont lynch today, like we can agree that you would probably win vs me in last day but make it entertaining for yourself and for all obsing. | ||
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Thanks...there goes my theory. BTW do you guys want me to make this an even more epic mafia game later on? | ||
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You have a problem answering the question idiot? | ||
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I'm just gonna leave saying this last word. Nothing on concrete has really been put on me. The only thing that people keep rehashing is just the non vote on suki day 1. That argument alone is so weak but it seems the only thing you guys are doing is thinking each of you is confirmed town so the only one with a small question mark is going to get lynched. "Follow the list", pretty good plan scum, keeps you alive all game long. What seems more likely, a noobie's second game (being town last game) having nothing scummy except for some overblown vote argument thats super wishy-wash (similar to my town game) or a veteran scum being able to hide under voting in a list? Anyways, gg guys. Was fun (and HELLA stressful  ) | ||
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On March 08 2014 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote: Exactly. I would have totally written that as scum (though I'd never text/drive in the first place). Hey CHyz? What was that thing you didn't want to post? You know, maybe it would have helped me change my mind for good? (Doubtful lol, but still). The only way I could have gotten town to maybe win is if I died by modkill. only 2 ways this would happen, I modkill myself or if we decided to no lynch and I got modkilled for not voting. Anyway I wrote this really really late so was tired and it probablly makes no sense but this is what I was going to post when I was asking if you guys are busy and such to play till the end. Anyway I commend you scum on a game well played, but you forgot one thing that will make you actually have to fight till the end. *cough* *cough* As the day winds down to its end, our noobie scrub, TheChyz is fighting an uphill battle vs 3 of the most well behaved foes he has ever faced with only 1 being the notorious enemy he has sought for since the beginning. Not being able to find anything to try and help town to win the game, our hero enters his cottage. Inside he finds a secret weapon he has been hiding all of this time. With nothing left to live for, our beloved scrub breathes his breath as he pulls the only weapon that he has left in his arsenal........ From: Aquanim [ 1684 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Cultured Mini Mafia Role Date: 2/26/14 08:04 You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers, but you have your voice and your vote. You win with the town. LET THE GAMES, BEGIN!!!! | ||
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On March 08 2014 12:15 Balla24 wrote: You know Chyz, that would have been fucking badass and epic BUT Thank god you didn't do it because it's clearly against the rules and i'm glad you didn't do it because this game already had enough drama ^_^ Thank you for not doing it. HOORAY for not cheating !!! | ||
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