Hi all. Mocsta seems pretty town to me atm. In his last game (as scum, GSL open mini) his contributions in the middle of day 2 or 3 were worse than they seem right now.

geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together?

TheChyz

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February 26 2014 01:53 GMT

#360

Nothing to do with reads, just the way your playing. Back in that game it seemed like you and vivax/kush were just posting to fill up the thread and waste the day. Here it seems more like your actually trying to scum hunt. That combined with the fact you haven't claimed scum yet

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 01:59 GMT

#374

I am not a smurf WoS.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 02:16 GMT

#393

Ionno suki, are you going to come in and provide any attempt at reads or just ask questions all day long?

As per your question, I have hunches on some things, but nothing I feel is actually worth saying atm.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 02:20 GMT

#401

I'm not sure if this is because this is how he plays but holyflare has been making jokes all day 1. Seems like an easy way to get a free pass on the first day if everybody just knows your gonna joke around. The time for joking 24/7 is over I think, is there anything useful you plan on doing this day holyflare, or just gonna draw some more?

TheChyz

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February 26 2014 02:55 GMT

#438

On February 26 2014 10:51 TheChyz wrote:
geript, why is it unlikely that rayn and toad can't be scum together?

Welcome back geript, got a question waiting for you still...

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 03:04 GMT

#453

Mocsta what is your reason for voting gumshoe? Surely not just "marketing crap" post you made. You don't really explain it much.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 03:09 GMT

#459

Also, why is my case better now (@Mocsta). Before you told me how "fallacious" it was. Why does it change now?

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 03:26 GMT

#477

Hey geript I'm not a moron you know. My memory lasts more than a few minutes. Would you mind explain why rayn and toad can't be scum together. (for the third time...)

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 03:46 GMT

#494

To me it seems more like JJD has only tunneled on Mocsta for a read that mocsta made on suki. Apart from that he has done nothing really after that.

On February 26 2014 11:42 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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Lol, I thought rayn was the only person I always read backwards.

But actually, I'm starting to come around on you being town because I feel like gumshoe is using you to try and get suki lynched.

Like I think u've been acting kinda scummy mostly because of ur suki read. But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case.

Also in bold, I have never as town thought "does calling you something make me look scummy". It's only something scum usually worries about.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 05:31 GMT

#583

Typo seen ^ *gumshoe is currently set to be lynched*. Just found that funny since so much talk has been about him

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 05:42 GMT

#587

I don't think he's mafia, but I do think this sentence "But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" is scummy. He is addressing himself to mocsta and basically saying (or this is how I read it, maybe misinterpreted) that if he [JJD] calls Mocsta town and sheeps that case it will make him [JJD] look scummier. And I don't understand why a town would be afraid of having a "scummier" image. If you are town, you know your intent was not scummy and you can give an explanation out of it. However if your scum it seems more likely that you are afraid of your image.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 05:49 GMT

#594

NVM on the JJD case. I'm retarded and kept thinking he was refering to mocsta and not gumshoe. I also don't call him mafia cause 1 scummy thing from a person doesn't mean they are mafia.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 06:12 GMT

#608

You guys can play having 1 scummy thing on someone and immediately call them mafia. I don't.

TheChyz

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February 26 2014 06:19 GMT

#612

Ye, I played reckless. So I'm not allowed to play differently and have my philosophies change? Don't know what your leading to. All your doing is pointing out a playstyle that you probably don't agree with. Doesn't mean you have to like it. And im pretty sure both you and I would actually rather try to look for actual scum then keep talking about this thread clogging argument. Yes?

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 06:51 GMT

#619

I later on went on to find that i misinterpreted what JJD was saying. no shit I would drop it if I found out that the reason why he seemed scummy to me was wrong.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 07:38 GMT

#625

kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with

On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote:

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A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind.

All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points:
1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything.
2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant.
3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him.
4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all.

In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand.

Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now.

##Vote geript

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 07:39 GMT

#626

oh and btw i might not responds soon cause im passing out at the comp randomly. So if i don't respond ill get back to it in a few hours

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

February 26 2014 08:02 GMT

#629

Just some stuff on you and WoS clogging up the thread with your discussion surrounding gumshoe. It just felt like it was going no where and more like an ego thing at the end (which if I remember correctly I think WoS sayed he kept his vote in spite or something along those lines).

Also suki just rubbing me the wrong way with here weird defensiveness and interactions with mocsta. Not sure what but something from reading her filter just doesn't seem right.

And somethings on mocsta but I have to re-read his filter to see what. Mostly I just remember his very jumpy nature from a target to another and his vote is very weak in my opinion.

But nothing I think will lead anywhere atm and just something to maybe keep an eye