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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 06 2013 00:33 GMT
#29
/in
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 07 2013 12:42 GMT
#46
On October 07 2013 21:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 21:16 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2013 21:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 07 2013 18:16 Koshi wrote:
Cool guys are in slytherin


Only prepubescent girls like the evil guys!

rofl.

Every self respecting gamer would end up in Slytherin. True story.


Bitch please, only the cold-intelligent analytical ones.

The self-righteous hotheads end up somewhere else entirely ^^

I wanna be hufflepuff - no one ever
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 08 2013 15:18 GMT
#111
Spam is just maps spelled backwards
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#123
On October 10 2013 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm surprised to see syllo in a game that explicitly states that balance is not guaranteed.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 13 2013 20:44 GMT
#145
Et, in for me
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 16 2013 00:42 GMT
#255
On October 16 2013 09:39 Foolishness wrote:
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On October 16 2013 08:36 StorrZerg wrote:
are people smurfing in this game?

I have 3 smurfs in this game: You-Know-Who, Mattchew, and Storrzerg.

<3
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 16 2013 23:35 GMT
#439
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s

and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:38 GMT
#476
yo yam, does that mean your thinking what im thinking
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:40 GMT
#479
On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote:
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On October 17 2013 10:38 Mattchew wrote:
yo yam, does that mean your thinking what im thinking

that if it was Rayn I would lynch him on the spot?

hellz yeah.

what do you think about the houses and who's in each.. im really tempted to just list all my housemates cause i think theres nothing to be gained from a town perspective in keeping them secret
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:46 GMT
#483
yea

StorrZerg, Palmar, Mattchew, Holyflare, Hopeless1der, Grackaroni be reppin hufflepuff... like fucking losers
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:48 GMT
#486
grack is pretty active in the QT

everyones posted except palmar, and grack fake posted as palmar to be "funny"
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:48 GMT
#487
On October 17 2013 10:48 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 17 2013 10:46 Mattchew wrote:
yea

StorrZerg, Palmar, Mattchew, Holyflare, Hopeless1der, Grackaroni be reppin hufflepuff... like fucking losers

Get Out.

with pleasure
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:50 GMT
#488
or now maybe palmar did post... idk grack is a (redacting mean names)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:52 GMT
#492
On October 17 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment?

I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here.

Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise.


Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker.

On a different topic let me reiterate:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
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On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.



Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing.

Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win?




What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care?

I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol.

i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:58 GMT
#495
On October 17 2013 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
matt, what do you think about Moc?

nothing, other than that he claimed miller in the first post and that was either really bold play as mafia or smart play as town

On October 17 2013 10:54 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 17 2013 10:52 Mattchew wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment?

I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here.

Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise.


Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker.

On a different topic let me reiterate:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.



Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing.

Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win?




What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care?

I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol.

i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak

wat.

saying lol at the end of a sentence is what you do when your texting a girl and you're nervous she wont understand what you're saying is a joke, aka weakness
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 01:59 GMT
#496
i want to change my use of "smart" to "correct"
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 02:57 GMT
#500
shouldn't palmar and syllo be figuring out each others alignment?

im going to bed
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 15:02 GMT
#663
this is not in order

On October 17 2013 23:51 Pandain wrote:


Keeping mine on Mattchew because I actually have reasons but am interested to see three votes on Vayne


lol what because i asked if it was standard policy to lynch miller claims? or because i called his play correct from a town point of view? because they are 2 completely separate thoughts having nothing to do with one another

On October 17 2013 23:31 syllogism wrote:
Did you post on the QT last night Palmar?

yes, only to say that he hates our qt

On October 17 2013 12:01 StorrZerg wrote:
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On October 17 2013 11:57 Mattchew wrote:
shouldn't palmar and syllo be figuring out each others alignment?

im going to bed


why just them?
I don't know this group that well so if someone could explain their history that would be cool

they are bffle's who like to hunt scum together (and do so well) if they figure out they are both town. They both also believe they have the best read on each other if i recall correctly

On October 17 2013 16:15 syllogism wrote:
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On October 17 2013 11:57 Mattchew wrote:
shouldn't palmar and syllo be figuring out each others alignment?

im going to bed

How do you propose I do that? This post seems strange in that you imply that you have read the thread because you know we haven't been trying to do that in-thread, but if you have done that, you should also know that Palmar hasn't even posted. What was the point of that post?

I was pointing out that you had both posted in QT's but not in the thread, it struck me as surprising because i would have thought you 2 would have reached out to each other and not the QT's first.

On October 17 2013 15:57 yamato77 wrote:
I will say about Matt, it seems odd to me that he instantly seems to trust me this game when I believe he thought I was mafia last game on D1 for absolutely no reason. I expect town Matt to be very suspicious of other people; it seems out of place for him to have such friendly interaction with me.

why cant we be friends?

On October 17 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:


On Yamato: Im at loggerheads. Im pissed he suggested I was scum earlier and am somewhat dismayed by his lack of aura/presence when entering the thread. However, I like his pick-up on Mattchew as I felt the same way.
[/b]
why havent you attempted to talk to me at all then? weird

On October 17 2013 18:22 EchelonTee wrote:
Thoughts on raynpelikonoshi, Mattchew?

can i just say Koshi and have that be my answer?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 21:09 GMT
#820
On October 18 2013 05:56 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm feeling a syllo palmar scum team right now. Lets kill those guys.

i think this is an uninformed opinion
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 21:24 GMT
#827
is LA a smurf?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#860
i have no strong scum reads yet sorry LA.. trying to play a little better than last game... my town reads are growing though, so i will eventually have some scum in sight
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:10 GMT
#897
On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote:

Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him.

Will make deeper analysis when I'm back.

##Vote: Onegu

this is what i thought.. but then i read his game in aperture (town) and his game in desert (scum) and he plays almost invertedly
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:12 GMT
#898
i got ninja'd by my lack of reading lol... if its any benefit i posted those thoughts before HF in the QT
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:12 GMT
#899
(ps hi grack ^)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:48 GMT
#902
On October 18 2013 12:15 Pandain wrote:
Mattchew:

1. When do you plan to start contributing more?

2. What differentiates your town play from scum play?

3. Who are your town reads?

4. Is there anyone you find suspicious now, even if you're not sure.

You stated that Mocsta would've made the "correct" play to claim SAM as town, but then you ask if it's policy to lynch any such SAMS indicating a desire to or at least acceptance of. What would be your stance on the issue.

1. idk
2. idk

3. stutters holyflare and grack,
yam syllo pandain and LA look pretty town from the limited amount i've read from them too
onegu i just explained

i had the same thought process as grack (i think it was grack) regarding palmar but I think he has said before himself that he's not a fast starter especially on day 1, and for him to be calling for a policy lynch and calling things as he sees them makes me not want to lynch him day 1

i dont think i'll be able to read raykoshi this game cause im pretty sure i can't read either of them anyway, HF says he can read rayn though so i'll look for that

4. i dont have any slytherin on my town list so that could be a place i would want to start lynching into

ET scares me but for no reason belonging to this game

has tunk posted in the QT

JAT has posted basically nothing so if anyone wants to not lynch, has be posted anything in the QT?


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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 04:02 GMT
#905
On October 18 2013 12:15 Pandain wrote:

You stated that Mocsta would've made the "correct" play to claim SAM as town, but then you ask if it's policy to lynch any such SAMS indicating a desire to or at least acceptance of. What would be your stance on the issue.

i answered this and you are skewing my order.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 04:13 GMT
#908
On October 18 2013 13:06 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 13:02 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 12:15 Pandain wrote:

You stated that Mocsta would've made the "correct" play to claim SAM as town, but then you ask if it's policy to lynch any such SAMS indicating a desire to or at least acceptance of. What would be your stance on the issue.

i answered this and you are skewing my order.




Do you mean this?

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On October 18 2013 00:02 Mattchew wrote:

lol what because i asked if it was standard policy to lynch miller claims? or because i called his play correct from a town point of view? because they are 2 completely separate thoughts having nothing to do with one another




What I get from this is that you don't see the connection. If it was correct in your opinion to claim SAM as town, then why would you ask if its standard policy to lynch him if Mocsta made a possible town move.

yes. i was asking if it was standard policy to lynch a claimed miller. I also said that if you are town and a miller, it is the right thing to do to claim as I read that on mafiascum wiki.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 04:30 GMT
#910
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 05:01 GMT
#913
Moc that conclusion is (mean word here)
You are right though, i wanted to differentiate between smart and correct, that is because i was reading mafiascum wiki

Also, i asked a question about if the correct play was to auto lynch a claimed miller... For you, pandain and any other (redacted named calling) saying that i said to actually do it, please stop skewing what i said, it is quite frustrating
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 05:04 GMT
#920
On October 18 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 14:01 Mattchew wrote:
Moc that conclusion is (mean word here)
You are right though, i wanted to differentiate between smart and correct, that is because i was reading mafiascum wiki

Also, i asked a question about if the correct play was to auto lynch a claimed miller... For you, pandain and any other (redacted named calling) saying that i said to actually do it, please stop skewing what i said, it is quite frustrating

Okie Dokie.

So you respond on one item; why abstain on the other(s).

Cause i have no idea what to say? I buddied yam's thought processed and expressed that in the thread. Yes
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 05:05 GMT
#921
On October 18 2013 14:04 Mocsta wrote:
MattChew,

while you are at it.

Will you lynch Zaragon?

Why/Why Not?

Thats bh right? I wouldnt care either way if he died... Plus hes syltherin right?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 05:20 GMT
#928
Ravenclaw:
Onegu,
Syllo
LastArgument
Tunkeg
Supersoft
Yamato

huffle:
StorrZerg,
Palmar
Mattchew
HolyFlare
Hopeless
Grack

slytherin:
Mocsta,
EchelonTee
blazinghand
I-Be-Pro
sn0_man
skanjabs1s

Gryff:
Cephiro
Pandain
VayneAuthority
raynpelikonoshi
Stutters695
justanothertownie

for those who haven't read

and i have no read on zara/bh but if BH doesnt want to post then he can die
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 05:24 GMT
#929
plus bh rule amirite
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 09:54 GMT
#981
On October 18 2013 18:36 LastArgument wrote:
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On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning


This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made.

Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell.

He was trying to tell the thread something he believes he knows, trying to enhance someones read on him which i think is pretty fucking towny
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 11:06 GMT
#987
On October 18 2013 19:02 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 18:54 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:36 LastArgument wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning


This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made.

Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell.

He was trying to tell the thread something he believes he knows, trying to enhance someones read on him which i think is pretty fucking towny


what do you think about sn0_man

In an attempt to answer your question i think i found my first scum read, storrzerg.

I'm phone posting so this case will not be well formated nor long winded

Storr has focused on sn0 since his very first post which was more of a joke then anything

Storr has be consistently seeking approval of our qt before posting here, this is probably to make sure that other townies agree with him

Palmar very early said he liked storr's idea to kill sn0, this is what really set off the influx of storr's push on sn0

Storr's case on sn0 is bad, like forced bad. It only brings up one game related post, which is a setup post by sn0 that concludes scum may want to have a hand in who wins the challenges. This is a reasonable point

Storr has continued to push this case on sn0 despite its holes and seems to ignore a lot of other happenings in the thread... I think this is to look like a tunnelling townie

Storr has said in this thread and multiple times in the qt that hufflepuff produce the least dark wizards

Storr is scum

##vote storrzerg
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 12:08 GMT
#1003
Cant wait for another shit case
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1007
Syllo, your thoughts on storr, or thoughts on my thoughts on storr
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 12:12 GMT
#1008
Sn0 was/is suspicous of syllo...
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 12:15 GMT
#1009
On October 18 2013 21:10 LastArgument wrote:
Matt, can you explain to me why any of the points in your case can't be applied to a new town player?

I dont know how to answer this question
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Mattchew
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October 18 2013 12:18 GMT
#1012
On October 18 2013 21:17 LastArgument wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 21:15 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 21:10 LastArgument wrote:
Matt, can you explain to me why any of the points in your case can't be applied to a new town player?

I dont know how to answer this question


Well, it's one you need to find a way to answer if you want anyone to be convinced of your case.

Couldnt you literally say this about any case against a new player
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October 18 2013 12:20 GMT
#1013
On October 18 2013 21:17 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 21:12 Mattchew wrote:
Sn0 was/is suspicous of syllo...


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On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing


???

that's what you call suspicious? Do you even try?

Youre right, scum, especially lesser known players, love to poke at the best player in the game early
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October 18 2013 12:26 GMT
#1016
Yeah didnt realize it was that early, ill drop it
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October 18 2013 12:32 GMT
#1018
Yes, i was wrong
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October 18 2013 12:38 GMT
#1020
On October 18 2013 21:36 supersoft wrote:
Now look at sn0_man. He starts lurking when a discussion starts. When toad and I entered the thread, he disappeared. But he wasn't gone! When storr mentioned him during the skanjab discussion, he delurks and attacks skanjab a little and hides again.

How do you judge this behaviour?

Idk im too busy being upset about re-reading my case on storr and having to come to the realization that LA is right and i cant really defend it against him just being new...
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October 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1022
Yeah w.e i should have listened to everyone early last game too

##unvote
##vote sn0_man
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October 18 2013 15:45 GMT
#1077
Palmar i think sn0 looks better with his posts recently, am i stupid
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October 18 2013 15:45 GMT
#1078
And i think storr is still tunnelling
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October 18 2013 15:48 GMT
#1082
Skanj is strange
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October 18 2013 16:51 GMT
#1107
On October 19 2013 01:47 Skanjab1s wrote:
"hey guys please dont vote for me, or vote for other lynch candidate, even though I have said that I dont think he is scum, also I dont feel like finding scum so can one of you do it pls? thxxxbbz" - Sn0_Man2013

i have been where you are.. you are completely tunneled and blinded
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October 18 2013 16:53 GMT
#1111
neither am i.. im debating where i want to switch my vote to
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October 18 2013 17:04 GMT
#1122
yeah imma put a placeholder on ceph and read into him and the game more
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October 18 2013 17:14 GMT
#1130
this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily
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October 18 2013 18:00 GMT
#1162
On October 19 2013 02:57 I-be-Pro wrote:
okay I figured this shit out. Palmar is mafia and he's angry at everyone because he's indeed doing the right thing because Mocsta is mafia as well and they had it planned all along. But Palmar expected to get less flak so he's mad while knowing his target is mafia.

My gut is always right on these things.

wut
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October 18 2013 18:15 GMT
#1171
LA, storr is not a new player just fyi

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96429&user=StorrZerg
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October 18 2013 18:35 GMT
#1184
On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote:
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On October 19 2013 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.


1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever.

At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs.

I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming".

can you just claim?

i could get down on a switch
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Mattchew
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October 18 2013 19:57 GMT
#1329
wait what the fuck is going on
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October 18 2013 19:59 GMT
#1337
this is a lollercaust
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October 18 2013 20:11 GMT
#1352
we just lynched the 1 guy that woulda been mod killed

this is going swimmingly
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October 18 2013 20:12 GMT
#1356
palmar has policies.. they mean nothing if he doesn't act on them
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October 19 2013 03:57 GMT
#1466
syllo just to confirm, you we out'd by yourself correct?

also can you give me reads on hopeless, ET and SS?
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October 19 2013 11:57 GMT
#1486
Onegu i was sheeping
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October 19 2013 15:18 GMT
#1496
syllo can you please answer my questions before the deadline
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October 19 2013 18:18 GMT
#1548
On October 20 2013 03:13 yamato77 wrote:
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On October 18 2013 20:06 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 19:02 supersoft wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:54 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:36 LastArgument wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning


This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made.

Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell.

He was trying to tell the thread something he believes he knows, trying to enhance someones read on him which i think is pretty fucking towny


what do you think about sn0_man

In an attempt to answer your question i think i found my first scum read, storrzerg.

I'm phone posting so this case will not be well formated nor long winded

Storr has focused on sn0 since his very first post which was more of a joke then anything

Storr has be consistently seeking approval of our qt before posting here, this is probably to make sure that other townies agree with him

Palmar very early said he liked storr's idea to kill sn0, this is what really set off the influx of storr's push on sn0

Storr's case on sn0 is bad, like forced bad. It only brings up one game related post, which is a setup post by sn0 that concludes scum may want to have a hand in who wins the challenges. This is a reasonable point

Storr has continued to push this case on sn0 despite its holes and seems to ignore a lot of other happenings in the thread... I think this is to look like a tunnelling townie

Storr has said in this thread and multiple times in the qt that hufflepuff produce the least dark wizards

Storr is scum

##vote storrzerg

Catching up, but I wanted to note this post.

Matt, this is sketchy as fuck. No reason to think Storr is mafia IMO, and for this to basically be your only scum read of the game... I am disappoint.

yes.. my read on marv and you was really good day 1/2 last game too.. i start slow because I process of elimination scum hunt

right now i dont believe storr is scum... hes too willing to share his entire thought process

i dont have any direct scum read right now... just people im ok with dying
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October 19 2013 18:36 GMT
#1551
On October 20 2013 03:28 LastArgument wrote:
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On October 20 2013 03:18 Mattchew wrote:
On October 20 2013 03:13 yamato77 wrote:
On October 18 2013 20:06 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 19:02 supersoft wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:54 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:36 LastArgument wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning


This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made.

Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell.

He was trying to tell the thread something he believes he knows, trying to enhance someones read on him which i think is pretty fucking towny


what do you think about sn0_man

In an attempt to answer your question i think i found my first scum read, storrzerg.

I'm phone posting so this case will not be well formated nor long winded

Storr has focused on sn0 since his very first post which was more of a joke then anything

Storr has be consistently seeking approval of our qt before posting here, this is probably to make sure that other townies agree with him

Palmar very early said he liked storr's idea to kill sn0, this is what really set off the influx of storr's push on sn0

Storr's case on sn0 is bad, like forced bad. It only brings up one game related post, which is a setup post by sn0 that concludes scum may want to have a hand in who wins the challenges. This is a reasonable point

Storr has continued to push this case on sn0 despite its holes and seems to ignore a lot of other happenings in the thread... I think this is to look like a tunnelling townie

Storr has said in this thread and multiple times in the qt that hufflepuff produce the least dark wizards

Storr is scum

##vote storrzerg

Catching up, but I wanted to note this post.

Matt, this is sketchy as fuck. No reason to think Storr is mafia IMO, and for this to basically be your only scum read of the game... I am disappoint.

yes.. my read on marv and you was really good day 1/2 last game too.. i start slow because I process of elimination scum hunt

right now i dont believe storr is scum... hes too willing to share his entire thought process

i dont have any direct scum read right now... just people im ok with dying


I'm curious whether this post constitutes you playing better than Noir, which was your stated goal earlier in this game? It feels quite apathetic.

In Noir one of your early mafia-reads was correct (Stutters), was it not? You seem a bit less emotionally invested this game.

I do have a couple of reasons to think you may be town, but I'm not very confident in them.

im extremely invested in this game.. look at the times that i've posted.. the game has literally kept me up at night... I just haven't found anything near what i found in stutters, however my town list grows faster and faster and I've narrowed down to ~10 possible scum... i didn't like any of the candidates yesterday, ceph, palmar or myself and I came back from League too late to change any of them
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Mattchew
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October 19 2013 19:30 GMT
#1554
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October 19 2013 19:58 GMT
#1567
On October 20 2013 04:50 Onegu wrote:
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On October 20 2013 04:30 Mattchew wrote:
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Why is ET and hopeless blank? You write "nothing" on others but those two are blank... Since I have scum reads on you and ET at this point I find this interesting.

i have feelings of scum on them.. this is about my town reads not about my scum reads
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Mattchew
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October 19 2013 20:12 GMT
#1581
1 scum from each house other than huffle (mine have died)

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October 19 2013 20:14 GMT
#1583
challenge winner?
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October 19 2013 21:35 GMT
#1630
syllo any thoughts on hopeless
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October 19 2013 21:48 GMT
#1635
On October 20 2013 06:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
also dissappoint that the contest winner was a copy/paste from the internet, must be a bunch of redditers judging

hey i had to read through a LOT of shitty harry potter pick up lines to find that keeper
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Mattchew
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October 19 2013 22:05 GMT
#1651
syllo can we lynch hopeless instead?
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October 19 2013 22:27 GMT
#1671
On October 20 2013 07:02 Blazinghand wrote:
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On October 20 2013 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 20 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
man so i now i havet o liek read and stuff damn

Why you so nooooby? Syllo is innocent child all you have to do is sheep. That's the key to success in a game of mafia.


um yeah that only counts if Syllo actually has good reads

hint: probably not

On October 20 2013 07:25 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah not having read the thread at all I think I can comfortably vote mocsta unless he's also an innocent townie somehow

##vote mocsta

seriously though i'm gonna read thread now

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October 19 2013 23:10 GMT
#1706
On October 20 2013 07:50 syllogism wrote:
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On October 20 2013 07:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
That LA flipped? Was in response to syllo saying he can't know his alignment. I.E. he flipped I know he's town.

I didn't say that, I simply suggested that he couldn't know LA played "very strong" town game unless he knows alignments of every player in the game. It's possible that he thought LA was just very towny and therefore player a strong game, but I find that less likely than the alternative. Still, no point discussing this any further.

true... discuss hopeless with me?
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Mattchew
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October 19 2013 23:12 GMT
#1709
lol
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October 20 2013 02:54 GMT
#1741
On October 17 2013 23:21 LastArgument wrote:
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On October 17 2013 23:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:10 LastArgument wrote:
Just to be completely clear, Hopeless - you don't have any specific scumreads at the moment?

Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point.

Here's my issue with this. And there are two.

Firstly, you've said this as town before:
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On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets...

I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking.

I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy.

@wbg voters: dafuq?

You've also said this as town:
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On April 23 2013 01:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...its a pressure vote on someone you think is less scum than other players....are you sure you know how to play this game?

Your attitude doesn't seem to tally with how you view the game when you play town.

##Vote: Hopeless1der



lets not forget the dead aka the confirmed
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Mattchew
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October 20 2013 03:03 GMT
#1743
the guy that wants to lynch scum?
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October 20 2013 03:07 GMT
#1745
hopeless, in this thread, all your reads in detail from our house
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October 20 2013 03:34 GMT
#1749
On October 20 2013 12:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
storr town for asking random questions, and pandain's "scumread" on him
matt town for showing storr why he's likely confirmed town. also pandain's scumread
holyflare town for, you know, actually hunting scum and generally making sense.
grack...doesnt seem like scum? his playful attitude hasnt changed since daypost.


On October 20 2013 12:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
...so much for loyalty
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare

By process of elimination

LOL

##vote Hopeless1der
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October 20 2013 03:54 GMT
#1765
On October 20 2013 12:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On October 20 2013 12:48 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 20 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I had to pick from that list I would want to lynch grack first since he will never reveal his alignment. learned from thug life that he is apt to troll as both alignments so that would be my first pick.

The difference is I will actually start playing soon. You will not. <3


the real difference is there not a currently residing confirmed scum in my house...and I heavily agree with hopeless' analysis. Leaving you and holy. Holy looks better by far so there you have it.

why not hopeless?
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Mattchew
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October 20 2013 04:24 GMT
#1770
extenuating circumstances... need to reconsider

will be gone for atleast 15 hours (sleep and football game)

##unvote
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October 20 2013 22:46 GMT
#2029
On October 21 2013 07:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
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On October 21 2013 06:57 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Come on. The case from syllo has holes in it and Holyflare defended more than sufficiently. I dislike Mattchew 150.000 times more than Holyflare. Why is he town? Because Pandain filter? Meh.

Mattchew & Cephiro could easily be scum.
Holyflare is scum with who? He is trying to figure out the game and his interactions with Pandain early on were not scummy in my eyes, they looked good.


i think matt is town, does that have any weight?
i think he is the most town in my group

Yeah but I don't see it.

Page 1 of Mattchew filter is nothingness, somewhere he has a scumread on somebody because that person typed "lol" at the end if his sentence and that made him scummy because he was insecure because Mattchew texted girls like that when he is insecure or something.

Page 2/3 there is still pretty much nothing that makes him town, he defends himself a bit but that's it. Then there is Pandain voting for him because Pandain has "reasons" and then there him quoting EchelonTee on the Onegu case saying that ET is wrong.

Page 4 has the excelcopy of his reads:
Pandain: Green
Lonemeow: Nothing
EchelonTee:

That's quite strange if you look at Stutters you see that Mattchew has him for town because 2 lines of text in which he defends Palmar. Like why the fuck is that green? And Mattchew had Stutters green as soon as that happened, why wouldn't it be 2 scummers defending each other? Mattchew had Palmar as SCUM for the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. He was one of the 3 pioneers of the Palmar wagon.

Then there was the whole Mattchew wagon catching steam for 4 whole minutes. 4 minutes. Because Cephiro decided that Mattchew wasn't his preferred lynch even though he was whining and bitching that his reads in his 1 post were so valuable... But then Cephiro decided that when it seemed that Mattchew wagon was going to surpass the Palmar wagon to vote for Palmar who was NOT a scumread for Cephiro....


Yeah, I don't like Mattchew at all.

this one of the worst posts i've read in a long time
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October 20 2013 23:12 GMT
#2031
im down to lynch any one of holy/hopeless/grack

the thread will be a waste product until we rid ourselves of the hufflepuff scum
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October 20 2013 23:51 GMT
#2047
koshi is bad. if you listen to koshi, town will lose
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October 20 2013 23:56 GMT
#2049
im drunk and dont give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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October 21 2013 01:57 GMT
#2091
we should be lynching into the 3 holyflare, grack, hopeless we have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting scum even if we random them
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October 21 2013 11:00 GMT
#2129
Yeah im town, i mason's storr to get a better read on his thought process... I also tried to fake traitor claim him to out scum team members... I also knew his role, his full role, early into night 1
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October 21 2013 11:30 GMT
#2131
So syllo, who do we lynch... I can dig a JAT lynch
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October 21 2013 11:43 GMT
#2133
I dont really wanna lynch into syllerthin
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October 21 2013 12:24 GMT
#2142
Koshi, i knew about the check on our house 3 minutes into day 2

Hopeless gave his house reads before he knew about the check

Then he chose holy even though grack was scummier looking on his list

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October 21 2013 12:26 GMT
#2143
I also had a case on hopeless, but refrained from posting and then his role has got me completely confused
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October 21 2013 12:30 GMT
#2147
Thats a lie, i was building a case on hopeless centered around him asking a lot of questions but not furthering his thought process / reads through them
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October 21 2013 12:55 GMT
#2155
I think we have 2 general options, we lynch into my house or we lynch outside my house plus slytherin... I say this because i firmly believe in the check on my house and dont really see a framer being involved with any of us except maybe me.. If this is true and the is 1 mafia in our house, then i dont like slytherin with mocsta (as i believe his claim) to have a 2nd (and 3rd on house cop check) mafia in the house

In my mind, unless im completely missing something we should be lynching into jat, onegu, va or yam/cr...
Onegu has tried to pressure me and scum hunt mostly me but i think his read has been adapting, which seems pretty townie
Yam just bounced so i dont really know where i lie on him anymore it seems he really couldnt be arsed to try
Jat and VA i havent dont enough reading on to say scum or not but i havent read anything that made me think theyre town yet
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October 21 2013 12:59 GMT
#2158
They arent scum reads they are people im ok with killing that might flip scum
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October 21 2013 13:32 GMT
#2171
We as town have 1 lynch aka 1 kill and we killed someone who was gonna die anyway... I wanna kill everyone i dont think is town asap
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October 21 2013 13:33 GMT
#2172
And now both holyflare and hopeless have suspicious and towny qualities, when im not driving i will list them out
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Mattchew
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October 21 2013 13:49 GMT
#2174
Im always more sure of my town reads then my scum reads... I was wrong about pandain but im not too worried about that

I want to go on a killing spree because i get to chose (or atleast a voice in choosing) who dies... Its not like mafia is going to start killing themselves and they arent often killing scummy or inactive townies... The more inactive, scummy townies dead the more narrowed down the scum team becomes... Lets say we lynched ceph or sn0 or someone else that has looked bad (including myself) we wouldnt be talking about lynching them today because they would have already flipped and its not like mafia is gonna kill me or anyone else town in this situation if they think they can push mislynch on us and nullify our biggest power aka lynching
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 13:53 GMT
#2176
I said slytherin dont have a second scum
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 15:21 GMT
#2237
Cephiro is a stupid lynch imo his play is too weird for scum and way too weird for an antitown 3rd party
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 15:32 GMT
#2244
So self centered koshi
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 15:49 GMT
#2267
On October 22 2013 00:43 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 00:40 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:34 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:28 Onegu wrote:
@Matt

Why is storr so sure you are town?

Those 2 are masoned

What kind of reason is that?

wtf snow?



Matt and i had a priv QT
we removed all doubt from each other in that qt.

You know what would be protown?
REMOVING DOUBT FROM EACH OTHER IN THIS THREAD.

Like why would you 2 not give the exact reason why you have such strong townreads on each other so the rest of the thread can remove you 2 from the suspect pool? Why the fuck?
How is that keeping a secret protown? You 2 even already roleclaimed so there is litterally no reason at all.

Now I know again why I think both of you are scum.



I really doubt storr is scum but saying my vote is wasted at this point is dumb when he isnt giveing reasons in thread why matt is town.

I could have killed a known pretty powerful blue role when almost no other roles were known
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 15:58 GMT
#2276
Im not gonna be at a computer until atleast 3 hours from now

Holyflare has posted sensibly, scum hunted and pursued his scum reads, however his scum read on me at the end of day 1 seemed really off to me. Syllo also posted a lot about the possibility of him being scum, but his power (if true) seems almost too weak for scum given all the powers and numbers town have in this game

Hopeless's powers are kinda strong and he kinda breadcrumbed he was a jat in our QT, however he could change the word role check to cop and then it could easily be a scum role, and he could have been role checking toad on behalf of his scum teammate ET... Pandain also protects him from LA, and he really does ask a lot of questions and not follow up on them

Grack has started contributing however he was also defended i believe by pandain, he has played this game with a lot of excitment and seems to post very fast without what seems like any second thought to what he has to say... His confidence is what really makes me think he is town

I think i would still pick hopeless to die first out of the three, the more i think about it the less im convinced scum would target me or anyone from our house for a framer
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:01 GMT
#2278
On October 22 2013 00:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 00:49 Mattchew wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:43 Onegu wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:40 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:34 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2013 00:28 Onegu wrote:
@Matt

Why is storr so sure you are town?

Those 2 are masoned

What kind of reason is that?

wtf snow?



Matt and i had a priv QT
we removed all doubt from each other in that qt.

You know what would be protown?
REMOVING DOUBT FROM EACH OTHER IN THIS THREAD.

Like why would you 2 not give the exact reason why you have such strong townreads on each other so the rest of the thread can remove you 2 from the suspect pool? Why the fuck?
How is that keeping a secret protown? You 2 even already roleclaimed so there is litterally no reason at all.

Now I know again why I think both of you are scum.


We were masoned as soon as night 1 started... I knew by the middle on n1 storrs role
I really doubt storr is scum but saying my vote is wasted at this point is dumb when he isnt giveing reasons in thread why matt is town.

I could have killed a known pretty powerful blue role when almost no other roles were known

You are killing me.
How? Because you knew 2 hours in N1 that he was the housecop?
How would you prevent the rest of your QT to spill that in the thread? It would be the same effect, 1 scum in Hufflepuff.
If only you knew, how would you prevent Storr from telling the thread you knew in the quiet period?
Also, were you masoned from the start of N1? or did Storr claim in the QT? I missed that.

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:02 GMT
#2280
Fuck phone posting i said to ray "we were masoned at the beginning of n1 and i knew storrs role middle of n1
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:06 GMT
#2288
Pandain buddying holy makes me lean even less towards holy can someone else confirm this is what happened
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:12 GMT
#2292
Posts like hopeless's latest make me so confused about my own reads
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:21 GMT
#2305
if cr doesnt vote can we please mod kill him, personally i am sick of playing with inactive people especially in a very complex game like this one. Cr only has an hour a day and over 100 pages to read let alone his house qt and if hes in anything else that requires his time
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:31 GMT
#2318
I think our best play is to lynch hufflepuff until we hit scum or are all dead

Yall can start with me but i think that wouldnt be smart
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:32 GMT
#2320
On October 22 2013 01:28 You-Know-Who wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 01:21 Mattchew wrote:
if cr doesnt vote can we please mod kill him, personally i am sick of playing with inactive people especially in a very complex game like this one. Cr only has an hour a day and over 100 pages to read let alone his house qt and if hes in anything else that requires his time

You should lynch him if you want him removed from the game. We cannot make any promises regarding modkills so play as though he is going to remain in the game until he dies.
-FT

So no posts for a cycle and no vote day 2... Cool.. I know ill "save it for the postgame" bs
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:53 GMT
#2336
Syllo i need you to tell me where you read all of hufflepuff including me and storr without roles and just on game play... Also without the assumption that there has to be 1 scum in there, assume it can be anywhere from 0-5
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#2338
Also i dont really care about the why, just the strength of the read
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#2339
I need that
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:00 GMT
#2346
Im not lynching another random policy lynch when we have so much info... Plus he should be modkilled anyway so hopefully he will lynch himself for us
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:08 GMT
#2357
Syllo, can you answer atleast this, where would storrzerg read if not for his role
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:12 GMT
#2364
How stronf a read is that?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:29 GMT
#2378
Just cause i echo'd storr doesnt mean he came up with it, much of, if not all of our reads and play has been discussed between the 2 of us
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:45 GMT
#2406
Potentially confirming that his role exists, not alignment
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:48 GMT
#2411
Cant he claimed to use his only protown ability last night all the rest are pretty alignment null
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 17:59 GMT
#2420
he claimed to cop check toad
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 18:02 GMT
#2423
he has 4 potions he can give out.. the person recieving them has to accept and "chug" them for them to work

cop check, makes target unlynchable
target cant vote or target hopeless
target is untargetable (except to votes/lynch)
if target dies they live another 24 hours

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 18:03 GMT
#2424
i think it is very possible he is scum and his cop check is actually a role check, and that he was checking i-be-pro on behalf of ET
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 18:12 GMT
#2437
On October 22 2013 03:05 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hey I just read my role pm. I'm at work atm, so won't be able to read 100+ pages of stuff. I think I can get all caught up tonight though. In the meantime, I'll just throw up a null vote.

##vote: no lynch

glhf!

this might make me rage quit
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 18:54 GMT
#2492
as of right now i am going to vote hopeless, i am treating Yam/CR as if they don't exist in this game because in my mind they dont, and should be modkilled
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:01 GMT
#2501
On October 22 2013 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Reading through stutters' filter, it seems he's posting just enough not to get modkilled. I'm comfortable lynching him. Since we have a lot of space after the N1 actions, it's reasonable to use a lynch or two to clear out chaff.

##unvote
##vote sutters695


Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 03:54 Mattchew wrote:
as of right now i am going to vote hopeless, i am treating Yam/CR as if they don't exist in this game because in my mind they dont, and should be modkilled


hopeless situation will resolve itself though, right?

no
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:05 GMT
#2507
On October 22 2013 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:01 Mattchew wrote:
On October 22 2013 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Reading through stutters' filter, it seems he's posting just enough not to get modkilled. I'm comfortable lynching him. Since we have a lot of space after the N1 actions, it's reasonable to use a lynch or two to clear out chaff.

##unvote
##vote sutters695


On October 22 2013 03:54 Mattchew wrote:
as of right now i am going to vote hopeless, i am treating Yam/CR as if they don't exist in this game because in my mind they dont, and should be modkilled


hopeless situation will resolve itself though, right?

no


how won't it? either he delivers, and we don't lynch him, or he doesn't, and we do. in the meantime we can pursue other leads, it's not even like we're wasting time.

all your saying is that we can control where he uses his powers
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:16 GMT
#2511
i will not vote my town read stutters, i will not vote CR, i will not vote cephiro.

I will only lynch within hufflepuff
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:18 GMT
#2516
On October 18 2013 03:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Last time I played with Palmar was YANMM or LX or some big game where he argued really strongly in favor of policy lynching a claimed SAM in similar circumstances as town.

I'd like to see him contribute more, but as of now, I think his frustration is genuine.

at the time this seemed very townie, i still think so
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:21 GMT
#2520
On October 22 2013 04:20 Blazinghand wrote:
If we lynch into hufflepuff it shouldn't be hopeless1 since we will know what's up with him one way or another soon enough

explain how
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:24 GMT
#2523
On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot

and that confirms alignment how?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:32 GMT
#2532
On October 22 2013 04:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:24 Mattchew wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
syllo can confirm that he has pot

and that confirms alignment how?

it doesnt. Matt has the right of this, controlling my abilities doesn't prove anything towards my alignment. However, I can't lie about what each ability does or who I'm using it on. That information is going to be public. Town is making my decisions so you can't expect my powers to benefit scum, even if you think I am scum. Is that a completely unreasonable compromise to you Matt?


@Ceph's insistent "There was no daypost message"
There won't be one. Syllo will (should) get a PM.

If you play along with what town tells you to do you dont get lynched.. you are being forced into these decisions, so the decision to do this isn't alignment indicative
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:33 GMT
#2535
On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.

why not? it could win them the game and force a day sooner lylo
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#2542
On October 22 2013 04:34 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:33 Mattchew wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:30 syllogism wrote:
The "if target dies they live another 24 hours" potion is a really bad claim if he is mafia as we have means of killing people (would lynch count?). On the other hand, there is no way mafia actually has a potion with that effect.

why not? it could win them the game and force a day sooner lylo

Because this is not how you design roles. I will keep that in mind if you host a themed game, however.

explain how this works with town then?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#2545
as of now, no one i want lynched is up for vote.. cr dying is fine but i refuse to vote for him on principal of the fact he shouldnt be in this game

i have to go to work for like an hour.. i was called in... i will try to pay attention and post via mobile while driving dangerously
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#2547
On October 22 2013 04:38 Chairman Ray wrote:
If we're gonna be lynching into Hufflepuff tomorrow, I would go after anyone who tries to preserve the others. I think that the scum in Hufflepuff would try to push the vote onto people outside the house, because for every Hufflepuff that dies, town gets closer to the scum. Given that town is ahead, it's against scum wincon to lynch both Hufflepuff town and scum. Hufflepuff town however, would be totally up for lynching inhouse, as long as they aren't the one being lynched. To them, they know they are town, so from their perspective, there is 1/4 mafia or 2/4 mafia, and that's pretty good, better than lynching outside the house. I don't have a lot of time left anymore before I get lynched, so I can't really dive into all their filters and get a good read, so I'm just putting this here.

bah you guys wanna vote this.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#2551
On October 22 2013 04:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:42 StorrZerg wrote:
Voted Hopeless


...uhhh why? You dont want to chance me making syllo invulnerable?

probably cause he wants to lynch scum
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:44 GMT
#2555
On October 22 2013 04:43 Stutters695 wrote:
Since we are not lynching, I'm following syllo and my vote is on Ray.

well this is dumb... are you scum?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:44 GMT
#2558
hey syllo, cr is probs town and you should be leading the switch... where you at broski
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:47 GMT
#2564
when CR flips town i will be confirmed mmkay? and stutters will no longer be a town read for me... far from it
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:48 GMT
#2566
On October 22 2013 04:47 syllogism wrote:
I don't want to deal with a guy who is going to available for 1 hour a day. Why even replace in if you don't have time?

me neither but im also trying to win the game
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:50 GMT
#2571
i dont care enough about ray dying to amass a vote switch onto stutters
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 19:50 GMT
#2573
plus i could be really wrong
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:01 GMT
#2595
On October 22 2013 05:00 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:58 StorrZerg wrote:
Would you say your last coins went out to town?
Also where does C.Ray say he can only play for 1 hour a day?


I said it in the replacement thread. I dunno if me replacing in is better than no replacement at all though. I'm just trying my best for the one hour I'm in this game though ^^

please asked to be modkilled 1 hour a day is not enough for this game and you shouldn't have replaced in... sorry if this seems mean
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:06 GMT
#2605
Lol
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:27 GMT
#2628
Oh shit cephiro is voldemort but a town voldemort
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:39 GMT
#2637
I bet ceph kills cr, or hopeless
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#2642
On October 22 2013 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I didn't get a coin. Unless his goal was to get powered up in order to gain his NK ability I don't see how killing me helps his cause, whatever the hell it is, or why he had to aquire more lovers.

If hes town he thinks your scum
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:45 GMT
#2646
Mafia probably used the secret vote whether or not cr is scum... Either they delay his death or get a vig/lynch on a townie from the confusion and sketchiness
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:46 GMT
#2647
For the record i dont think cr is scum... I dont care if he lives though (emotions in the way of logic ftl)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 21 2013 20:48 GMT
#2650
On October 22 2013 05:47 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:45 Mattchew wrote:
Mafia probably used the secret vote whether or not cr is scum... Either they delay his death or get a vig/lynch on a townie from the confusion and sketchiness


The closeness of the lynch points more to CRay scum. It is pointless as scum to try last minute switch the lynch off of one townie and onto another.

Your assumption is exactly what scum would want with 2 townies up for lynch
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 00:15 GMT
#2678
On October 22 2013 09:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 08:44 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 22 2013 08:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Apart from the fact that BH is saving syllo or we lynch him? AND Apart from the fact that we don't have a claimed cop to save?

Not much no.


was meaning myself the house cop..


If you can convince me that saving you over syllo won't get me auto lynched tomorrow then sure. If I were in no danger of getting lynched, I'd suggest a strategy where I flip a coin and save between you and syllo, thereby discouraging scum from shooting either of you. That being said, it's probably best for me to just save syllo who is almost certainly getting shot if I don't, and also avert a mislynch.

save syllo
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 06:25 GMT
#2843
probably wont post till tomorrow.. my thoughts are in the thread.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 20:45 GMT
#3160
I lied to you guys... But it seems to have worked
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 21:05 GMT
#3202
Wait storr.. Calm down
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 21:42 GMT
#3270
Storr is mason, im house cop, i told him i would check raven claw and the number of paragraphs i wrote would be the number of scum... I forgot about that plan

What storr said about palmar was true, the mods messed up n1 and included him with 5town 1scum

I wanna say im sure storr is town but i cant be 100 so i lied to him too and check gryff... I got a 1 scum result

Ps im susan bones and storr is cedric diggerary doo
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 21:43 GMT
#3275
Storr has some other powers too, one may say "he is the only wizard to ever tie harry potter"

Thats all i got till i get home... I did like the suspense though
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 21:43 GMT
#3277
On October 23 2013 06:43 Blazinghand wrote:
so there's currently one hufflescum and one grffinscum

As per my checks yes
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 21:44 GMT
#3280
On October 23 2013 06:43 Blazinghand wrote:
wait if you forgot about the number of paragraphs how did he know which house you checked and what you got?

I told him end of day 2 i was for sure checking ravenclaw
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 21:45 GMT
#3283
On October 23 2013 06:44 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 06:43 Blazinghand wrote:
wait if you forgot about the number of paragraphs how did he know which house you checked and what you got?

I told him end of day 2 i was for sure checking ravenclaw and my first post was 1 line


EBWOP
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 22:51 GMT
#3374
Today i got "1 scum" and thats all
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#3389
this is the best hydra ever
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#3447
So whats going on?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 03 2013 22:33 GMT
#5892
yay town

boo mods
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