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where did all the 12/9 player minis go? | ||
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That doesnt make any sense rayn. Survivor doesnt want to help town. Survivor gains no benefit from claiming. Survivor doesnt need to claim rayn. At all. It gains them nothing to claim n0. And probably means they lose the game. | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Explain why you and Oats are so eager to tell anti-town roles how to play? Its common sense. Apparently you lack it. | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Shoot: Oatsmaster rayn is scum. | ||
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Why? Because he knows that it isnt actually alignment indicative. | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Me shooting you makes me scum how? I propose a survivor claim. If there is a dumb enough survivor to claim, it helps town. I have a pro-town proposition and you immediately tell the survivor to not claim. Why? If someone had claim survivor, it would have helped town. If not, so fucking what? It does not change the fact that my proposition is pro-town and your immediate response is anti-town. this pro town shit. Doesnt exist. Also, it doesnt help town a ton if the real survivor were to claim. | ||
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Townies try to help town, scum do not. Uh no rayn, chill the fuck out. Also we as town know that there is no SK, how in the world does that help us? Also, I assume you think Im scum rayn, And in your previous game, TOWN players gave advice to the antitown. So why do you think im scum? | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah. let's drop it. I am still honestly a bit curious about Oats. He clearly thought survivor is anti-town role as he said so in his post. I understand your thought process but not his. I would also like to hear what makes me scum in his eyes. uh no I dont think survivor is anti town. L2english. You think we gave anti town advice. I asked how does that make me and yamato scum. | ||
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On August 20 2013 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait, now you are saying this. Why would you oppose an idea that might possibly help town and has zero downsides? Also how does me proposing that sort of an idea make me mafia? Its not an idea. Its a plan that helps scum. Scum knowing survivor is great. Town doesnt really have any direct benefit from survivor claiming. Also, I didnt say you were scum because you proposed a plan, I said you were scum because you shit on me and yamato for helping 'antitown' when you know its more likely to come from town. | ||
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Therefore survivor is anti-scum. | ||
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this is not an upside They are a survivor. Then we can assume there is probably not a SK in the game. We then judge them later on (are they helping town or not). If they are not, we lynch them, if they are - mafia needs to kill them (not kill a townie). | ||
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On August 20 2013 21:18 Koshi wrote: So what will we do with useless players and afkers? Lynching them is not working out for town lately D: Why do you care n0 about this? | ||
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Interesting. | ||
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On August 20 2013 21:41 yamato77 wrote: Are you trying to tell us about your plans, scum-WoS? On August 20 2013 22:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh yeah, Koshi, u scum? You do this kind of thing a lot as scum it seems. Is this different WoS? Can you tell me how the 2 sentences are significantly different. | ||
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You think yamato isnt serious in his accusation? Why? | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:35 Onegu wrote: Because I dont want some of the other people who are newer in the thread to listen to the other people without thinking because no one chalenges them. Why? Why dont you focus on finding scum instead of helping these unnamed people who I dont even know who. I assume you have a specific person in mind Onegu? | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote: Mostly rainbows, but there are some other people who I dont know or are recently out of newbies. Why would rainbows or any of these dudes need your advice? Did you see an example that without your advice, they would believe these things which are clearly wrong? | ||
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I did that before. I'm not doing it again. | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:44 Onegu wrote: Look I dont care if they take my opinion or not, but I prefer if someone disagrees with something they dont just keep it to themselves even if it isnt scum hunting so whos scum?? | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Who hates me? The difference between you and me is I won't get lynched for my play. Stop contributing to my supposed delinquency by continuing to shit on me if you don't like what I'm doing. Why is this an ego thing? | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:48 WaveofShadow wrote: I thought Rayn already established that. Why are you restating the obvious when nobody asked for it? I am telling the thread my read. Is Rayn me? No. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:12 DarthPunk wrote: Nah I'm not sure if he is scum or you are yet. Feel free to carry on though. fun-killer. | ||
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hmm. 15 player game. day 1 with 14 players. lets say 3 mislynchs, town lose. so day 3 its 10 players. 5-4-1? that means scum win. 6-3-1. nah. 7-4. maybe. Probably 4 scum and survivor Or 3 scum and SK. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote: Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit. But I am the self aware miller guy. Why didnt you claim in your first post? Why did you decide to wait 4 hours? | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, you asked me why i act differently in this game than in CCM. I explained it to you. Because of setup differences. Then you call me out for "not learning and bla bla bla..", when i actually have already acted differently inbetween these games. If you are going to call me scum you need to get your facts straight. Hold on Rayn. You acted differently because different setups, not because you learned that CCM was the wrong way to go around doing this sorta shit. So DP is right. Your explanation is not about you learning. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:26 Koshi wrote: I really didn't know if that was the best course of action. So what changed your mind? What were you thinking about? Why was it bad for you to claim in your first post and good for you to claim now? | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote: Dnu, was thinking about it the entire time. But now seems like a good moment. Answer the questions. There must be reasons. "Dnu" not a reason. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:47 Koshi wrote: Well, I just tried to make a lot of posts about the topic. Could have done it more obvious but I really had no clue if I should insta claim or wait it out a bit. Come on Koshi. Why didnt you claim at the start? | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:54 Koshi wrote: Because I didn't know if it was the right play. That's it. So simple. That's why I made the statement that selfaware millers should claim at start. To see what people would say. I could also have said: "guys, do self-aware millers claim at start?" But that looked obvious. no thats not what you were thinking. You were thinking how claiming could get you killed, or help scum or help town. SPECIFICS KOSHI. Not knowing if its the right play means that you were thinking about the DOWNSIDES OF CLAIMING. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i know. But that's the exact "defense" DP was assuming i would give as town. What gives? DP assumes you would say something like 'what I did in CCM was wrong' | ||
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Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote: This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that. Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it. Um. I dont see what the past game has ANYTHING to do with it, and I dont care about your explanation. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not care to explain my townreads unless they are in danger of getting lynched. Now excuse me, i'm gonna make a case on WoS. So WoS can refuse to explain and thats a bad thing, but you can and we are supposed to accept it? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:23 Koshi wrote: D: meanie! Let me rephrase it. What you have to say about your claim in terms of the scum side of things is not relevent to me. | ||
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I dunno Sn0_Man. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:33 Sn0_Man wrote: It doesn't make a ton of sense as scum but it makes even less sense for him to play the way he did as town. It simply isn't a reasonable play for a townie to make. I can see where a scum player would believe it was the right play. so as town, you wouldve claimed miller immediately? Without any delay? Why do you think Koshi is like you? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:38 geript wrote: Wait Oats is in this game. Lynch the fuck out of him. <3 you too buddy. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:39 Sn0_Man wrote: Because the thread had happily agreed that SAM claims immediately, a conclusion that Koshi contributed to and supported. It has nothing to do with him being like me. Ur annoying to play with oats you don't think too much before getting in everybody's face and clouding the thread with shit slinging. I know its how you play town (hasn't changed since Newbie 36 or w/e) but its still annoying. I dont know how you got to the second part, but ok. | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:28 Rainbows wrote: Is anyone aware of a game in which scum fakeclaims miller Day 1? I've seen real millers do it but personally not scum. yup | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:24 DarthPunk wrote: You are fucking out of your mind if you think koshi isn't getting lynched. Why you not talking Rayn? Townies love to talk. Maybe you aren't a townie. IN fact. Since when do townies flat out refuse to discuss their townreads that just claimed miller? and this, DP, On August 21 2013 01:05 DarthPunk wrote: let me extrapolate. Rayns case is very good and leaves me with severe doubts over WoS. Further I liked the way rayn dealt with my tunnel and I think he is more likely to be town than scum. what changed? | ||
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why does it matter? | ||
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my flip flopping is the result of de-tunnelling rayn and then viewing the thread from the perspective of rayn being town. I got enough of a town read of rayn from the way he dealt with my tunnel that I feel good about a perspective switch. Interested to hear what oates has concluded and what kush thinks. this is full of shit. | ||
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DP what do you mean by 'viewing the thread from the perspective of rayn being town'? | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:44 Rainbows wrote: Because I want to figure out the nuances of scum being able to fakeclaim miller day 1? It takes mega balls, if I can see another game in which scum does this I can better figure out if Koshi is actually miller or not. The dude who was scum said yolo. Claimed in the first like 15 minutes. | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:53 DarthPunk wrote: If I was wrong about rayn and he was town. Then his analysis and meta of koshi was genuine and trustworthy making it far more likely that koshi was, in fact, being a retarded townie. Then taking away koshi as a suspect and ignoring my tunnel, Rayn actually had the best case in the thread and pointed out a lot of things about WoS that i also have problems with (avoidance of discussion being the major thing) Rayn had 1 of 2 cases in the thread. How is making a good case = town? Especially with the avoidance of discussion being so fucking obvious? | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:59 geript wrote: I don't play f2f. If he's new it makes him far more scummy because its a random way to hide. Same reason foe why palmar was scum on me in lxi for +1 his read on vivas. Class then work. so if he doesnt know how to play, its scummier? | ||
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On August 21 2013 02:03 DarthPunk wrote: I was already viewing him as town because after i de-tunnelled a lot of his interaction/frustration with me came across as townie. like he says he won't discuss koshi but he can't let it go and does anyway. he got into a shit fight with me willingly and didn't back down. That shit is hard to fake. Could he be faking? sure. But i have more reasons to think he is town than to not do so. So already viewing rayn as town. He has the best case in the thread, I want to put my weight behind it and see what is up with WoS. I also trust rayns analysis of koshi based on their previous game. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand. Can you explain why Rayns case is good? | ||
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On August 21 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw i am still waiting for your response to the case.. its all 'WoS didnt answer me' | ||
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I guess it is, but it isnt mindblowingly awesome. I dunno, too many assumptions for me. The facts are that he didnt want to answer your questions. You think that its scummy. I think he might do it as town. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521¤tpage=21#402 | ||
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and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum. Thats all. | ||
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On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: no it's not. you are probably mafia.- thanks for telling me what you think your case is about. | ||
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Town reasons are that he doesnt give a fuck. YOUR CASE IS ALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT WOS DIDNT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. | ||
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And it worries me that DP thought that your case was awesome. Does it worry you? | ||
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On August 21 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: nonono. DP is town. My case is awesome. You can lynch me on D2 if WoS flips town. Deal? why would town rayn always be right? | ||
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On August 21 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats please do not be bad now, not now. Read the post again and please do not be bad. It's all explained in it. - He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough. its not lylo. Its not deadline. Its not even the fucking day. | ||
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Not rayn, not WoS. WoS, rayn not picking up on your gambit doesnt make him scum. As you can see, I was also not too happy that you were not answering questions about that post. So am I scum too? | ||
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On August 21 2013 13:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Wat. How are those two things the same thing at all? He is calling me SCUM. I didn't call you scum necessarily I just wanted you gone because you weren't doing shit. Show me how I wasn't doing shit all day just because I didn't want to answer his measly questions. Please. he is annoyed at you and thinks that denial of information makes you scum. Its not the same, the attitude rayn has seems similar to the attitude you had. At the start at least. So why is scum rayn going full retard WoS? | ||
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Why do you expect 2 deaths rayn? | ||
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On August 21 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why wouldn't i? Scum KP is not fixed at 1 and there is a possibility of SK. How do you know Scum KP isnt 1? assume there are 2 nightkills every night. That means town gets 2 mislynches. That hardly isnt fair in a 15 player game is it rayn? | ||
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So who do I wanna lynch. Hmm. | ||
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Whats your point? | ||
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I wanna lynch onegu actually. | ||
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On August 22 2013 20:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you want to lynch a guy who accuses your scumread? geript isnt scum to me I can do this all day rayn, I prefer not to read people in association with other people. Hasnt worked out all to well the past few games. | ||
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On August 22 2013 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay so why exactly do you want to lynch Onegu? why is this the 3rd question you ask man. he has been totally sheeping town sentiment and trying to post 'protown' things at the start. He picks out people's post and attacks them but never really follows up on any of it. Also somehow he has a scumread on Sno dude that he never explains anywhere. Also this post On August 22 2013 19:36 Onegu wrote: And I dont understand you guys and kush, he was town in GoT because he didnt do anything, and he is town here because he is reading the thread and being activeish? serves no purpose, no read on kush, just points out weird shit and leaves it at that. ##vote Onegu | ||
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On August 22 2013 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now how does this differ at all from what he did in GoT? I understand he needs to share his own thoughts (which he just started doing). I also understand that does not make him town, but it does not make him mafia either. Also Oats, how does Onegu differ from players like yamato, kushmasta, Crazo? Onegu who do you actually want to lynch and why? Also what is your read on kushmasta? I dont care about what he did in GoT. Yamato useless, Crazy dude might be scum, kush is town for giving a fuck. What are all these questions about?? Like why ask me about 3 people who probably wont be lynched today? | ||
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On August 22 2013 20:23 Onegu wrote: Nice try oats but here is my post on kush earlier. and what Onegu? Yeah I guess you think he is scummy, but I dont think he answered those questions and you dont want to find scum. | ||
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Also WoS did amazingly stupid things and everyone called him out. Why dont you ask a specific person? Also no one answered that question too and you dont seemt to care. | ||
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On August 22 2013 22:24 Onegu wrote: Why even post this, he is talking about what you did in precious games not this one and I and 95% certain he was jokeing. And you flip out about it, way overreact. He does this multiple times, he says im on this page, or I read everything, or I read that twice. He is trying to push how active he is on us. Why post these? Because he is scum and feels he needs to tell us how active he is, and why people give him town cred for this is beyond me. Almost all of his other posts are attacking someone or withdrawling his attack on the same person. And kusk why were you ok with a WoS lynch but if he flipped scum it was a rayne bus? context is that last game people shit on him for not reading the thread. And you were in the last game with Kush. Therefore, you are scum trying to take something that is a joke and make it out to be scummy. | ||
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On August 22 2013 23:18 Onegu wrote: Some people were giving him townreads last game, only people who didnt know him shit on him. This game he makes a effort and hes town. What joke are we talking about? His game this game is alot different from his town game in GoT. Tell me he isnt playing different, but even beyond that some of his actual posts that arent spam are scummy. eh what? What did kush not do in GOT? he didnt read the thread. Therefore in his NEXT GAME, he says he is reading the thread as much as possible. META. like real meta not that other stuff. Also this game is a mini, last game was big game. I was playing differently in that one too. Which of Kush's posts are scummy that are not a joke Onegu? | ||
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I dont know which post you are referring too. Also could you read Koshi's post about WoS' defense and tell me what's wrong in it? | ||
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I dont get what you want me to do with Koshi's post. Are you asking if I agree with it? | ||
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So Onegu says that he disagrees with kush's conclusion on FT. He never says the reason why. He only says his own opinion and therefore kush is scummier for it. Bullshit. And then kush gave this reason that Onegu is scum. I want to lynch him for his constant regurgitation of thread sentiment. He never expresses any idea that has not already been expressed. Which is a perfectly fine reason and something I mentioned. And onegu defends it by posting this And for me you attack me for no reason, I was already getting attacked from a few people for makeing posts that only add my thoughts to a existing arguement which is fine, but you jumping on me for this post when someone was talking about me disappearing is scummy. Kush's reason is hardly no reason. I mean, Kush is being an asshole but Onegu thinks its scummy to be mad about his constant 'whining' and disappearance. I dont see how any of this is 'spot on' at all Rayn. What the fuck. | ||
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Kush's post is not a factor in determining whether Onegu's post was good. Onegu cleary see's kush's behavior as an easy target for him to want to lynch, as would any newish scum player. Also Onegu can say what he want about the start of the game, the facts are that it was REALLY sheeping town sentiment and even just rephrased some stuff said before. I think that its scummy. And I dont think he did the same thing in GoT. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Oats. WoS stuff does not seem like town!insane to me. He calls me out for being mafia bluehunting ONLY after mkfuba gives him the seed. As i already said that is in the first place fishy because it was just discussed in GoT a couple of days ago. WoS hosted that game. He knows what has been in thread. Clarity and Xatalos called me out because i said i do bluehunt as town aswell (which is true). I was scum in that game. Does this not ring any bells? So WoS as scum didnt answer you because of what reason Rayn? Since his 'town' reason is bullshit. Why did he do it as scum? | ||
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Does this sound anywhere reasonable? | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:47 Koshi wrote: Oats, that's not the only scumpoint that WoS earned this game. Its not a points system. It isnt like once someone reaches 10 points they must be scum. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:49 Koshi wrote: The reason WoS eventually gave was that he emulated his town play from CCM to see reactions and catch scummies. Did you see him do that? Yeah. But currently I believe its Town WoS that did that and from my experience, Town WoS is more prone to stunts like this than Scum WoS. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:51 Koshi wrote: If somebody has 10 scumpoints and somebody else has 3 scumpoints I am going to lynch the first guy. so why arent you lynching kush? he has so many 'scumpoints' as you have aptly described | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would WoS as town do this: - Do anti-town shit - Do more anti-town shit he knows will flip me out - Call people out who call out his anti-town play - Make a retarded case against me based on me calling out his anti-town play - Retract from his only conclusion he he made from N0 - Distract half of the players completely on N0 - Refuse to answer on anything asked from him after that - Do absolutely nothing so far on D1 WoS is not stupid as town either. He only called out you. And actually yes, seems exactly like town WoS. Not like scum WoS in the slightest. Im only 1 vote and my vote is on Onegu, if you disagree, give good reasons, if you agree, vote for him. | ||
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Hes like really detached | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:05 Sn0_Man wrote: A) what lynch am I derailing? my own? I think I have 2 votes on me AFTER vayne voted me. Nobody has more than 2 to my knowledge unless WoS has picked up a 3rd or something. B) have you read his shit? "Anybody who wants to lynch me is scum", without even trying to look town. I'd lynch that anyday. I'm curious to know if you have any opinion on him after reading everything he just said, and after reading his really really short filter. 'Without even trying to look town'. Um have you seen scum play like that? | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:26 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes. Boardwalk Empire. I've seen town do it too, but none of them take the attitude that "I know i'm not acting townie but anybody who suspects me is obv scum". link me the dude in boardwalk. Rayn, he wanted to policy lynch kush man, that counts | ||
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VA is being an asshole but that doesnt translate into him being scum. His behavior doesnt help town, all it does is it draws everyone's attention to him for no reason. Which isnt scummy. | ||
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On August 23 2013 04:38 FirmTofu wrote: I explained that. Scum didn't roleblock N0 so that they could roleblock N1. If they roleblock N1, the person who is roleblocked will appear scummy because no one was roleblocked N0. Scum was playing at driving discussion on Day 2 about roleblocks to divert attention away from them. Regardless, how does this "conspiracy theory" make me scummy? Care to explain? Why would scum fake a rb claim when there wasnt 1 day 1 FT? Your explanation tries really hard to paint Snodude as scummy. But its bridge too far. | ||
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On August 23 2013 04:41 FirmTofu wrote: You've been saying this for a while now. I don't really understand why you've never made the move to actually vote me. If you find me scummy, why aren't you pushing your reads? Why aren't you pressuring me? I dont need to. | ||
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Somemore bullshit is the reason you voted for Snodude. like what the fuck is this shit? You just attacked a few random people in the beginning of the game to provide the illusion of scumhunting, then you afked to allow the thread to fester. Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you. Its all speculation. You are providing shitty reasons that snodude is scum for his gameplay. scum cant find good reasons because they know they are attacking town. Your reasons are shit. Shit reasons+speculation that is totally wrong+not attacking someone who fits your apparent view of scummy play to a tee. Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you. isnt this what vayne is doing? | ||
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##vote FT | ||
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On August 23 2013 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have pushed FT mislynch as town. I have pushed FT mislynch as mafia. I have pushed FT lynch as twon when he was mafia. I know how he reacts to the situation and he is not mafia in this game. Period. On August 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is a mislynch. | ||
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thats not backing it up. | ||
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On August 23 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes it is. FirmTofu says stupid stuff as town. Especially early on in the game. when he is attacked as mafia he tries his best to show his "towniness" and discredits the attacker and his arguments. He fights back. Town FirmTofu rolls over and dies, leaving his thoughts behind. Notice Oats, what happens when kush unvotes? see? See what snoman and wos do. They drop their fucking scumread instantly and bring the rest of the town under scrutiny. That's fucking textbook scumplay. Cast doubt everywhere when the lynch we wanted does not go through. Do you see them seriously considering geript as suspect? rofl, that's a fucking soft accusation on a guy who is not gonna get lynched today either way. So FT hasnt rolled over yet, that means he is scum right? I dunno rayn, your insaneness is too insane. We got 15 hours to decide. Lotta time. | ||
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he cant be scum | ||
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So bad. So very bad. And general detachment yeah. Like he couldnt really care less. | ||
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On August 23 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: He has been telling snoman is mafia all the game, questioning for his actions all the game. Do you remember what FT did in Titanic D1? no i dont rayn. Enlighten me | ||
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yeah I wish. Anyone wanna lynch geript? | ||
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On August 23 2013 09:53 yamato77 wrote: The last time someone said "I do this as scum too" it was a MAFIA player. Hey yamato, wanna actually be a part of the lynch today? | ||
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##vote WoS | ||
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hi | ||
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On August 23 2013 11:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Cool story. That's what you're going with? yup | ||
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also rayn  I think marytring is really bad play and almost as bad as WoS's gambit day 1. | ||
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I dont understand. | ||
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But the thing is, parity cops dont get back a check until d2 | ||
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Every fucking game there are checks. | ||
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C) Hard defended multiple scummy people on flimsy meta reasons like "they play bad as town so they must be town" Why is this scummy sn0man? | ||
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On August 24 2013 01:49 VayneAuthority wrote: no problem, in retrospect your survival instincts now make a lot of sense. I went to sleep before you breadcrumbed =/ I'd say onegu looks the worst coming out of this lynch, he was really up for anything between sn0_man and WOS. If sno man ever flips town at some point I think this guy should basically be an auto lynch. why dont we lynch onegu tmr? | ||
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On August 24 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote: Its hard to read you as town when you did literally no scumhunting D1, threw away your vote on somebody who obviously wasn't getting lynched AND never even tried to convince others to lynch him, made no case on him beyond "well you voted me and I warned you I'll vote you back" and are now calling him "insanely scummy" still without further justification. And are implying that you have done your job and that it certainly couldn't be even a fraction your fault that we just lynched a powerful blue role. I'd love to hear some reasons why yamato is scummy. Preferably compare/contrast them to A) a confirmed red check and B) Actively driving a mislynch for ~70 hours. Why the fuck do I want to contrast them to a red check??? Also driving a mislynch is almost all the time for town. Scum dont get tunneled. Town do. Rayn got tunneled. ggnore YOU LOSE SN0man hey you wanna lynch koshi? | ||
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On August 24 2013 02:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Getting red checked = bad play. nice exaggeration buddy. getting red checked =/= scumplay | ||
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The very act of taking the initiative to vote for somebody of his own accord is better than just sitting there waiting for somebody to vote you so you can vote them back. Why? | ||
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On August 24 2013 02:29 Sn0_Man wrote: I wouldn't mind lynching Koshi only its literally impossible for Koshi to be scum and rayn to be town unless: Koshi is scum, claimed Self Aware Miller, then got Framed to green by a scum ally so that (get this) any check on him would give away that he lied from the very start of the game. Or I suppose rayn got framed to red or is a NSAM but I don't buy there being a SAM and NSAM in the same game and I don't buy a scumteam involving Koshi (who has yet to seriously disagree with rayn the entire game) FRAMING rayn. It would make koshi look bad if rayn gets red checked. So basically as far as I'm concerned there is 0 reason to lynch Koshi over rayn. So Snoman, if koshi had a green check on any day, is he scum? | ||
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On August 24 2013 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote: Because the latter is not doing anything. Not doing anything defaults to mafia victory. I've explained this already. Town does not win by sitting on their ass and waiting for shit to go down. So all scum are bad and all town is awesome in your world I guess. | ||
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On August 24 2013 02:51 Sn0_Man wrote: I'd assume he was framed since nobody in their right minds claims SAM as a role that shows green to cop checks. That doesn't really affect his alignment. It would actually look good for Koshi since it seems unlikely that scum would frame themselves to green after claiming red. wrong conclusion. | ||
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I dont know about sn0, its a bit weird that he was 100% koshi was scum and now is 100% you are scum. Its a bit weird for scum to take those hard stances. I would have to say town. | ||
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i dunno about fuba. Well the thing with me as sn0, is that he is doing a lotta stupid shit for what seems to be no reason. | ||
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On August 24 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote: The snowman should not be on the lynchlist tomorrow imo. Because it is very unlikely that rayn would be in a team with him. Take a target that would work with rayn and the Snowman and is scummy. if you think rayn is so scum, why dont you want to just kill rayn tmr? | ||
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On August 24 2013 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats, mafia does read the OP carefully so that they know how to best use their roles. If i flip non-miller i can guarantee you Koshi was framed, that's so beneficial to mafia. Like have every possible parity cop check worng if they check the miller. (That's why you should have checked yourself WoS and not Koshi :E). I would assume parity cop is like in every single game ive seen it in. I wouldve done the same thing as scum. | ||
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On August 24 2013 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Oats, even if you would do that as scum not everyone would. That's 100% been discussed in scumchat. Im not taking it as alignment indicative. | ||
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On August 24 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: See me flipping non-miller town this night, that will prove you wrong. I meant the 'same thing' as assuming that parity cop works the same as other games. | ||
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On August 24 2013 04:25 Koshi wrote: Nope everything in my head says that rayn is town. But the Snowman. I don't really want to lynch him in case my head is wrong. Can't we find other scummy people? huuuuuuuhh??????? So rayn is town, and therefore you dont want to lynch sn0man because he is definetely not on the scumteam with rayn? What? | ||
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yamato tmr! | ||
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I could lynch this dude to. | ||
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