I would say that Sponge and Umasi try to work this out and they give us final target? It seems that Chroma made the kirby case and that hzflank made the super case.
Me, StiM and all others should FOLLOW lead.
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I would say that Sponge and Umasi try to work this out and they give us final target? It seems that Chroma made the kirby case and that hzflank made the super case. Me, StiM and all others should FOLLOW lead. | ||
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On July 15 2013 00:21 Chromatically wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2013 22:41 Koshi wrote: jrkirby needs to come back and start proving he is town. His last 5 posts were horribly rude, but I still wonder if scum would do that. It's so bold, or maybe he is just a rude person.. Why do you think that Kirby needs to price that he's town, but not Super? hzflank his case spreads out over a long period of Super posts and is a case on the playstyle of Super. Not as much nitpicking of sentences in the posts. The kirby case is more looking at the content of his posting. Kinda hard to explain, but you understand what I mean? | ||
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I see that you guys (StiM, Croma) are thinking that I am scum. It's fine by me, we can discuss it later, I am not going to stop posting, I am during Europe times online A LOT, you can keep grilling me. | ||
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On July 15 2013 03:25 Chromatically wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2013 03:21 Koshi wrote: Can we get a Super lynch going? Chromatically could you please consider this? Don't you think that Kirby is better for town if both Kirby and Super are at this point equally scum? Kirby posts much better than Super, if Kirby is scum I feel like it will be easier to catch him later on than Super. I see that you guys (StiM, Croma) are thinking that I am scum. It's fine by me, we can discuss it later, I am not going to stop posting, I am during Europe times online A LOT, you can keep grilling me. This is blatantly untrue. Super actually posts scumreads with reasoning. Kirby does not. Well, you refer to his read on hz or Xzavier? Because I don't like those AT ALL. | ||
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On July 15 2013 03:30 Chromatically wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2013 03:28 Rainbows wrote: On July 15 2013 03:19 Chromatically wrote: On July 15 2013 03:16 Rainbows wrote: On July 15 2013 03:15 StiMaDDict wrote: @Rainbow: Explain your unvote on Gotard please. Has your scumread on him changed or do you feel as if you need to change your vote due to majority voting system. I think he's scum. Just not the scum we're lynching today. Since he's voting JrKirby, I feel like Super is the better lynch. You're voting purely based on preflip associations, which you just said were bad? Both dudes on the block are scummy, Super just has less redeeming qualities.Pre-flip associations are bad. Very bad. Though as a mortal, I do bad things all the time. The problem I'm facing is figuring out which wagon is scum. My town reads are all over these two guys (and if my town reads are scum, GJ dudes, fuck these bad townies). Super just makes big paragraphs and has a ton of excuses blah blah blah. I have no qualms with lynching either of these guys, I may as well spin around and play pin-the-tail-on-the-scum at this point. Hurray for Day 1's, the only reason I'm rather 'meh' as town is because I have no information from the start. As scum I know all the things and am never wrong because my objective is to kill town. Fun Fact: I love playing scum :p Tell me your own reasoning, why is Super scum? You too, Koshi, I have no interest in doing so. I am also bored with the fact that we need to keep making our own giant posts to get completely ignored by your tunneling on Kirby. If you don't agree with me that both players look scummy atm but Kirby might be easier to read in Day 2 because he posts more and is more aggressive. Then we don't have much to discuss. If there are 6 votes on Kirby expect me to give the 7th. But for now I believe Super is the best choice. | ||
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On July 15 2013 05:06 StiMaDDict wrote: @hzflank: The deadline is 8:00 PM EDT. That's about 4 hours from now. Its 2 hours from now. Read to vote thread. 0700 KST will be the end. | ||
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On July 13 2013 07:05 Blazinghand wrote: ![]() Startide Rising Mini Mafia Day 1 FROM THE JOURNAL OF GILLIAN BASKIN Streaker is limping like a dog on three legs. We took a chancy jump through overdrive yesterday, a step ahead of the Galactics who are chasing us. The one probability coil that had survived the Morgran battle groaned and complained, but finally delivered us here, to the shallow gravity well of a small population-11 dwarf star named Kthsemenee. The Library lists one habitable world in orbit, the planet Kithrup. When I say "habitable," it's with charity. Tom, Hikahi, and I spent hours with the captain, looking for alternatives. In the end, Creideiki decided to bring us here. As a physician, I dread landing on a planet as insidiously dangerous as this one, but Kithrup is a water world, and our mostly-dolphin crew needs water to be able to move about and repair the ship. Kithrup is rich in heavy metals, and should have the raw materials we need. It also has the virtue of being seldom visited. The Library says it's been fallow for a very long time. Maybe the Galactics won't think to look for us here. I said as much to Tom last night, as he and I held hands and watched the planet's disc grow larger in one of the lounge ports. It's a deceptively lovely blue globe, swathed in bands of white clouds. The night side was lit in patches by dimly glowing volcanoes and flickering lightning. I told Tom that I was sure no one would follow us here-pronouncing the prediction confidently, and fooling nobody. Tom smiled and said nothing, humoring my bout of wishful thinking. They'll look here, of course. There were only a few interspatial paths Streaker could have taken without using a transfer point. The only question is, can we get our repairs finished in time, and get away from here before the Galactics come for us? Tom and I had a few hours to ourselves, our first in days. We went back to our cabin and made love. While he sleeps, I'm making this entry. I don't know when I'll have another chance. Captain Creideiki just called. He wants both of us up on the bridge, I suppose so the fins can see us and know their human patrons are nearby. Even a competent dolphin spacer like Creideiki might feel the need from time to time. If only we humans had that psychological refuge. -Startide Rising by David Brin Foolishness as the Last Probability Coil has burnt out! Qatol as the Terragens Council has sent a final psicast! The Galactics are upon you! Welcome to Day 1! This Day ends in ~50 hours at Monday, Jul 15 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 00:00 GMT (+00:00). With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Posted on 0700KST | ||
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Entrance with post that no lynch is an option. 1h20m later Apologizing for being gone, defending his previous post in 8 lines. Mentions he has no reads, but cloud didn't post anythinh 2h20m later apalogising for saying cloud was afk. (in 4 lines) Biggest scumread is HZ, because Umasi is town and HZ commented on Umasi. Mentions NightCat to be town, Xzavier is scum because Xzavier says Super is scum (Remember Umasi was allowed to do so) 11hours later 3rd time sucking up to Umasi. mentions Koshi and Gotard are town. 4h 30min later Super is alarmed that H.Sponge is disagreeing with him. But maybe Sponge is scummy? Super not making a case but he mentions some things. Eventually a couple times apologizing as well. 1h later Super goes to a concert and votes Xzavier. Why the fuck Xzavier? Super his first and second post are about not lynching on the first day and now he starts a vote train. I think because he thinks days take 24hours? Conclusion: This isn't town play. this is surviving. Surviving because he is blue or scum? I say scum because of that last vote. | ||
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If you say not-kirby is scum, Chrom says: "WHY THE FUCK? MAKE A CASE" If you say kirby is scum, Crom says NOTHING Which is bullshit. Look at everybody that says kirby is scum, Chrom is just ignoring them. | ||
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On July 15 2013 06:13 Umasi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2013 06:12 Koshi wrote: Chrom is tunneling like a madman. He doesn't accept anything else than kirby is scum. If you say not-kirby is scum, Chrom says: "WHY THE FUCK? MAKE A CASE" If you say kirby is scum, Crom says NOTHING Which is bullshit. Look at everybody that says kirby is scum, Chrom is just ignoring them. Koshi, that's useless Of course he ignores them if they say Kirby is scum, he doesn't need to convince them -.- lol? look at any other game. Sheeping is not allowed. My last post in the Nuclear Mafia game is " Guys I will follow you on X because I believe you". The answer that I got "Don't sheep, make your case if you follow". | ||
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On July 15 2013 06:07 Koshi wrote: Superflous timeline Entrance with post that no lynch is an option. 1h20m later Apologizing for being gone, defending his previous post in 8 lines. Mentions he has no reads, but cloud didn't post anythinh 2h20m later apalogising for saying cloud was afk. (in 4 lines) Biggest scumread is HZ, because Umasi is town and HZ commented on Umasi. Mentions NightCat to be town, Xzavier is scum because Xzavier says Super is scum (Remember Umasi was allowed to do so) 11hours later 3rd time sucking up to Umasi. mentions Koshi and Gotard are town. 4h 30min later Super is alarmed that H.Sponge is disagreeing with him. But maybe Sponge is scummy? Super not making a case but he mentions some things. Eventually a couple times apologizing as well. Super goes to a concert and votes Xzavier. Why the fuck Xzavier? Super his first and second post are about not lynching on the first day and now he starts a vote train. I think because he thinks days take 24hours? Conclusion: This isn't town play. this is surviving. Surviving because he is blue or scum? I say scum because of that last vote. Comments on this Chrom? Isn't this exactly what Super did? Read his filter after reading this. | ||
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On July 15 2013 06:24 Rainbows wrote: Okay so here's my thing. Kirby is town. His list post and recent activity feels townie. Super might be scum. Lynch him. But I think both might be town here. If I'm right I believe Koshi/Gotard/plus one lurker are scumteam. Id love to explain but again, working atm. Im trying to shoot off what im thinking as we go but it sucks i cant quote here. Will probably be voting super again later. That is a very interesting read. Kudos to you. | ||
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On July 14 2013 04:37 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2013 04:29 Superfluous wrote: Going back through the posts, I'm a little alarmed at Hurricane Sponge's change of tone.In this post he disagrees with my opinion and says it casts suspicion on me, but doesnt state that I'm a huge scumread or anything. Here I interpreted his post as acknowledging that while we disagree, I was still trying to state my opinion and reasons for having that view. He then says some weird things here though. For instance, he says that he agrees with others' view of me who had semi-defended me, and in the same list puts me as the only scum read. I realize his view may have changed, but it strikes me especially considering in the second post I listed he acknowledged the possibility of a bandwagon on me just because of differing opinions. We also have a mutual disagreement on reads as well. I don't see how hzflank and xzavier have contributed substantially more than me. While knowing everyone's scum reads is good, I don't like it when people show up, say their scum reads, then expect other people to act on them. As for Stim I think he's more likely bad town then mafia. Then again everyone else is saying the same thing, so could be mafia excuse for not lynching him. You still haven't shared any of your scumhunting with us. You're showing massive weakness to relationship / association theory (i.e. your suspicion of hz because he's suspicious of Umasi, your claim that because I agree with some of the views of people who happened to semi-defend you that I must think you're town, etc.) I much prefer people who show up and share their scumreads than people not sharing scumreads (and reasoning for them) at all as I've seen from you so far. The only scumhunting I've seen from you is a weak FoS on hzflank, the reasoning being that he was suspicious of Umasi. I think you can agree this is not particularly compelling. You are full of shit Chrom. Look at this, at this point Hurricane Sponge says that he hasn't shared any scumreads. Are you saying Sponge is bullshitting at this point of t he game? Or what? Super his whole read on Xzavier is this: "Xzavier putted me on top of a scumlist, Xzavier is scum" What else is there? | ||
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On July 13 2013 12:24 Superfluous wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2013 10:59 Chromatically wrote: On July 13 2013 10:49 StiMaDDict wrote: I may be biased but I put Chromatically as the most capable scumhunter. In last game, he pretty much had the whole scum team Day1. It goes without saying that I do not Chromatically's alignment as of right now. @Chromatically Your current scum reads? Superfluous looks really bad, he's been apologetic in his posts (not trying to rock the boat) and has only said what others have already said. It looks like he's trying hard to find anything to post about because he wants to look active. On July 13 2013 10:05 Superfluous wrote: On July 13 2013 09:55 Umasi wrote: Superfluous, do you have any current scum reads? At the moment no, as I said I was gone for a couple hours then came back and just skimmed through the thread . I mean to go through it again in more detail once I'm finished defending myself or w/e. Two things are on my mind though. One is that I think you are town (not just to suck up to you b/c you are pressuring me). Reasons being that in my personal experience those who are most aggressive are generally town, and also that this is a semi-noob game so I'm unsure if a mafia would have the confidence to go out and control the game/ put pressure on early on. Another thing is that I dont think I've seen much (if anything) from Cloud 9. He may be in same situation as me and I'll give him Benefit of the doubt though. It's extremely odd that he specifically points out Cloud-9 as opposed to any of the other players who haven't posted. This shows pretty clearly that he's not trying at all to find scum, he doesn't even know who hasn't posted. Also looking at Kirby. Lurkers be lurking. As I said I just skimmed over after returning. Cloud 9 was a name I didn't see when comparing the posts I saw to the player list, so I pointed it out. And I have been trying to get something to talk about other than what seem to be mini discussions between certain people. I also don't get why you're attacking me saying "I'm not trying to find scum". In my own post I said that I was going to look it over again and get reads, obviously meaning that I hadn't looked that hard for scum yet. Right now my biggest scum read is HZflank, because I still think Umasi is doing mostly pro town moves yet hz says its scummy. If it pushes to me actually being lynched I think that I'd still feel this way. He also had an early post or two that distracted somewhat from the discussion, which I'm always suspicious of. I'll give nightcat benefit of the doubt. It's a bit weird he showed up once his name came up but eh. I realize thats not really a great reason but seems like we're in semi-similar situations. Xzavier I'm more suspicious of, he didnt have many posts then in his first one he shows up saying he'll consider lynching me. It's really scummy play to lurk then show up ready to lynch imo. PLEASE GIVE ME MORE SUPERFLOUS READS ON XZAVIER Extra below: Xzavier his post + Show Spoiler + On July 13 2013 11:19 Xzavier wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2013 08:33 Superfluous wrote: While I agree that we should lynch someone if they are super scummy, I'd like to point out that voting for no lynch is an option. Assuming I'm interpreting the rules/setup right, mafia only has 1 kp so there's no immediate motive for lynching such as reducing kp. It may be a stronger play to not lynch and hope that cop(if there is one) gets a turn to check before lynch. It is a risk though because I believe we are not guaranteed to have a cop. Just an idea I wanted to throw out and get your guys' thoughts on. i know usami has touched on this, but i see voting for No-lynch is like sacrificing a townie or playing russian roullet for zero prize money. its just basically saying "i want to start this game a townie down" it seems silly to me, if somebody comes and gives me an ungodly reason for no-lynching ill hear it. but i see it as silly. Also from playing with usami before, hes a super fucking hyper aggressive person who needs like a single post to tunnel somebody for a full day, that can be bad. we need to keep our eyes open and looking at multiple people. As i learned my first game, a tunnel vision day1 can lead to a mislynch, or in this gametype, a no-lynch. Its far better to lynch scum, and thats what we should try to do. Even day1 we lynch either a lurker or our top scumread, if nobody has any strong scumreads, lynching the scummiest lurker is the best townplay day1. (it yields the highest chance of killing scum while creating the best pro-town enviroment) with that im also shocked of how active stim-addict is being. its nice to see a usual lurker picking it up leaving less for the scum to hide behind :D again, even Superfluous is at the top of my scumdar, he isnt high enough to deserve a vote yet. I want to lynch a lurker or superfluous depending on how he reacts to our posts and the events of the day. if the rest of it goes uneventful/no major scumslips i want to fuck up a lurker as i believe that to be the best pro-town action. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On July 14 2013 04:45 Superfluous wrote: Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in my posts, but my reasons for Hzflank and xzavier were not only because of association. I am suspicious of Hzflank because he had posts which didn't contribute or add anything (he defended it by saying it's his style of getting discussion started) and because he posted early on then didn't post much afterwards. Xzavier didn't post at all, then showed up and basically agreed with what had been said. He also said I was his biggest scum read but wasn't ready yet to vote for me. It struck me the wrong WAY, and I interpreted it as he was waiting for a reason to lynch me, not that he wasn't going to at all. Again, my interpretation here, but I already listed these reasons in previous posts just want to make it clearer. On July 14 2013 04:51 Superfluous wrote: I'm pointing out Sponge as a possibility as he has seemed to be clear from suspicion after jrkirby's early pressure. Xzavier is my biggest scum read atm for the reasons listed. I have a gut feeling and really have not liked the tone in his posts. Look at ALL THE REASONS SUPER GIVES. WOOOOWWWWOWWW | ||
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On July 15 2013 07:01 Chromatically wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2013 06:53 Koshi wrote: On July 14 2013 04:45 Superfluous wrote: Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in my posts, but my reasons for Hzflank and xzavier were not only because of association. I am suspicious of Hzflank because he had posts which didn't contribute or add anything (he defended it by saying it's his style of getting discussion started) and because he posted early on then didn't post much afterwards. Xzavier didn't post at all, then showed up and basically agreed with what had been said. He also said I was his biggest scum read but wasn't ready yet to vote for me. It struck me the wrong WAY, and I interpreted it as he was waiting for a reason to lynch me, not that he wasn't going to at all. Again, my interpretation here, but I already listed these reasons in previous posts just want to make it clearer. On July 14 2013 04:51 Superfluous wrote: I'm pointing out Sponge as a possibility as he has seemed to be clear from suspicion after jrkirby's early pressure. Xzavier is my biggest scum read atm for the reasons listed. I have a gut feeling and really have not liked the tone in his posts. Look at ALL THE REASONS SUPER GIVES. WOOOOWWWWOWWW You sure suddenly have very strong feelings about Super when he wasn't even a scumread not too long ago. There's no way you honestly believe that those are his only reasons. I control-F'd "Xzavier" in his filter and here's the reasons I found: 1) Xzav lurked before suddenly jumping on him JEEZ THIS IS SCUMMY 2) Xzav read him as scum SO DID UMASI 3) Xzav hasn't contributed YES HE DID? READ THE ENTIRE XZAV POST WHERE HE ALSO MENTIONS SUPER 4) Xzav lurked and then sheeped thread sentiment by voting for him SHEEPED WHO? UMASI? 5) Gut read CRAZYYYYYYYYY I personally agree with points 3 and 4, that's why I don't like Xzav. I find it hard to believe that you honestly missed all of these posts. I capslocked my response. I quoted all 3 posts of Super about Xzavier You were able to find 5 points? I am having a feeling that you are all-in on this Kirby vs Super lynch? Chrom, you are going to look very bad when Super turns red. You realise that? | ||
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On July 15 2013 07:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote: On July 15 2013 07:01 Chromatically wrote: On July 15 2013 06:53 Koshi wrote: On July 14 2013 04:45 Superfluous wrote: Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in my posts, but my reasons for Hzflank and xzavier were not only because of association. I am suspicious of Hzflank because he had posts which didn't contribute or add anything (he defended it by saying it's his style of getting discussion started) and because he posted early on then didn't post much afterwards. Xzavier didn't post at all, then showed up and basically agreed with what had been said. He also said I was his biggest scum read but wasn't ready yet to vote for me. It struck me the wrong WAY, and I interpreted it as he was waiting for a reason to lynch me, not that he wasn't going to at all. Again, my interpretation here, but I already listed these reasons in previous posts just want to make it clearer. On July 14 2013 04:51 Superfluous wrote: I'm pointing out Sponge as a possibility as he has seemed to be clear from suspicion after jrkirby's early pressure. Xzavier is my biggest scum read atm for the reasons listed. I have a gut feeling and really have not liked the tone in his posts. Look at ALL THE REASONS SUPER GIVES. WOOOOWWWWOWWW You sure suddenly have very strong feelings about Super when he wasn't even a scumread not too long ago. There's no way you honestly believe that those are his only reasons. I control-F'd "Xzavier" in his filter and here's the reasons I found: 1) Xzav lurked before suddenly jumping on him JEEZ THIS IS SCUMMY 2) Xzav read him as scum SO DID UMASI 3) Xzav hasn't contributed YES HE DID? READ THE ENTIRE XZAV POST WHERE HE ALSO MENTIONS SUPER 4) Xzav lurked and then sheeped thread sentiment by voting for him SHEEPED WHO? UMASI? 5) Gut read CRAZYYYYYYYYY I personally agree with points 3 and 4, that's why I don't like Xzav. I find it hard to believe that you honestly missed all of these posts. I capslocked my response. I quoted all 3 posts of Super about Xzavier You were able to find 5 points? I am having a feeling that you are all-in on this Kirby vs Super lynch? Chrom, you are going to look very bad when Super turns red. You realise that? A Townie realizes it and doesn't care. Mafia would realize it and back off their case. Especially a Day 1 case when it's easy to get away with fuzzy reads and FoS. I agree. That's why I say that it feels like he is going all in right now. Remember there is only 3 scum. 1 down now would be VERY bad. Sponge please read the Super log. Or read the 3 Super posts that I quoted I bolded the parts that Super talks about Xzavier. It's everything. I even quoted your posts ssaying that Super had done nothing till that point. Super did NO READ on xzavier and voted him. While Super his policy is that not voting is ok for day 1. Come on. COME ON. | ||
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1) Xzav lurked before suddenly jumping on him 2) Xzav read him as scum 3) Xzav hasn't contributed 4) Xzav lurked and then sheeped thread sentiment by voting for him 5) Gut read I am laughing so hard when I read these reasons after reading the super log over and over. | ||
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