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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#1111
I guess you can't read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:22 GMT
#1112
You can't say I'm not this stupid, by the way, when you're making the assertion I went full-blown retarded as mafia.

sorry man, that doesn't work.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#1114
ok, I'm ignoring you because my intelligence is being diminished just interacting with you.

I'll field questions from anyone else on the matter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:28 GMT
#1116
There's no chance at all you're dying tonight, lol.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#1123
On July 03 2013 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm assuming Lazer is town for now due to the lack of counterclaim. The presence of miller does not necessitate the presence of a cop. Nor in the instance that Lazer is fakeclaiming and there IS a real cop, would the real cop have necessarily counterclaimed by now, unless he was a) around right at the time of the lynch and b) thought he could move the lynch on to Lazer immediately.

Actually this is a big contradiction.
"I believe Lazer's claim now, but in case i was a cop and not online in the 4 minutes iwould have not counter-claimed him yet, but i apparently believe everyone else had done so".

cool-


I hope you're smoking some good shit man.

I've 'believed' Lazer's claim since he made it, since it's most logical that he's in fact town. I've not been 100% sure due to the timing of the claim. I have no idea what you just posted is even supposed to be a contradiction.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:49 GMT
#1126
On July 03 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, afaik the OP did not state scum have 2 KP until the game was paused.

My early game setup/miller analysis can be thrown out of window.
It's more beneficial for scum to try to play bold and fakeclaim miller (at least if they got 3 goon), because it gives them a good chance of 2x fakeclaims.

There is also evidence that supports marv being scum, what i have pointed out on N1. There is also evidence Lazer is scum, that i have pointed out. And this has even nothing to do with their accosiation, but their individual play/play from role's point of view.


It's more beneficial for scum not to be retarded and play the game normally actually. Just putting that out there.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:52 GMT
#1130
The only evidence you have is that of a blind conspiracy tunnel.

I'm hoping you wake up tomorrow and read again with a clear head.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:54 GMT
#1133
Claiming miller is arguably particularly dumb with #/2 rounded down, because it immediately puts one of the KP at risk :/

Towns usually lynch towns day 1 (most games are balanced for that in fact) so I've no idea why any mafia team would put a KP at risk by fakeclaiming a role. Any miller counterclaim and I'm going 1-for-1, and due to my past history of fakeclaiming miller it's pretty likely I'd die first (as people are super paranoid about me anyway). Your whole case rests on the idea that mafia don't have a roleblocker (we don't know this) and that I decided to gamble on miller.

It's totally ludicrous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:55 GMT
#1135
fuba, stop avoiding me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 21:56 GMT
#1137
On July 03 2013 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, why are you not pushing Vivax?
He has called me out for what i just said in my last post, he has mistakenly compared this game to Carnival and LXI and said the situations are similar. I was top lynch candidate at some point on D1 for that shit.

Here you agree with my early game miller-analysis, yet your "i'm back post" is this:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:15 marvellosity wrote:
On page 15 and getting seriously bored with this miller shit


Really, REALLY, REALLY???

How much i have to find for you guys to lynch marv?


Because it's all anyone had talked about for like 10 pages?

I can pull random quotes from your filter and go "lol scum" too you know.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:02 GMT
#1142
On July 03 2013 06:59 Vivax wrote:
EBWOP: What makes you say that the claim timing sitrs doubts in you


The claim was 4 minutes before the deadline. Thus the chances that there's a real cop not counterclaiming until day are non-zero. Although as the deadline was actually extended, it does make it that much more likely that he's cop (as any potential counterclaim had more than an hour to actually claim and get Lazer lynched if needs be).

Lazer was never a townread in particular, I just hadn't/haven't seen anything from him that makes me want to lynch him. Thus the claim is likely true (and more likely than what I said before due to how deadline was extended)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:06 GMT
#1144
On July 03 2013 07:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
Although as the deadline was actually extended, it does make it that much more likely that he's cop


This isn't really relevant as it's relevant what Lazer believed the deadline to be at.

Do you have evidence to back that Lazer knew deadline was actually one hour later? Else this statement looks pretty biased coming from you.


No, the point is that if a real cop existed, and the deadline WAS 4 minutes away, he was either not looking at the thread during that moment, or if he was around thought it was too risky to counterclaim and maybe not even get Lazer lynched.

The fact that there was another hour of time gave a lot more time for any potential counterclaim to happen and get Lazer lynched, but this didn't happen.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:11 GMT
#1148
I think he's just late
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:12 GMT
#1150
On July 03 2013 07:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2013 07:04 Vivax wrote:
Although as the deadline was actually extended, it does make it that much more likely that he's cop


This isn't really relevant as it's relevant what Lazer believed the deadline to be at.

Do you have evidence to back that Lazer knew deadline was actually one hour later? Else this statement looks pretty biased coming from you.


No, the point is that if a real cop existed, and the deadline WAS 4 minutes away, he was either not looking at the thread during that moment, or if he was around thought it was too risky to counterclaim and maybe not even get Lazer lynched.

The fact that there was another hour of time gave a lot more time for any potential counterclaim to happen and get Lazer lynched, but this didn't happen.


It's still irrelevant to mention the hour of time then, as this can be reduced to the argument that lazer is supposed to be legit cop cause uncounterclaimed, which is unrelated to the timing of the counterclaim imo.

So the best course in your opinion is to swallow the claim unquestioned and not judge lazer by his play?


I've just explained why, all you have to do is read it and understand.

When did I ever say that was the best course of action? Don't put words in my mouth.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:20 GMT
#1153
I didn't WANT anything for this whole stupid Lazer thing. It's just people putting words in my mouth of what I think and what I did. I've thought very little of Lazer except for flicking through his filter late day 1 and deciding not to lynch him, and then thinking his claim is probably true. Now rayn is twisting every little word and it's really boring.

I don't know how I can make the counterclaim thing any clearer. If Lazer was fakeclaiming and there was a cop and there was ACTUALLY 4 minutes left, there's a high chance that he would not have counterclaimed for timing reasons. As there ended up being more time, if there were a non-Lazer cop, he would have had a lot of extra time to counterclaim. I don't know how I can state it any simpler.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#1156
You're reading far too much into that. If Lazer died overnight (town has no protective roles) then it's a situation that's 100% resolved.

I also don't understand what you're saying my mafia motivation for posting that is.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:40 GMT
#1159
On July 03 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know as you are a sneaky bitch but there definitely is no town!miller!motivation, at least on what you have said before/after.


So you can't think of a mafia motivation (because one doesn't exist. Did you think of that? Did you even STOP and work out what I was trying to achieve if I was mafia saying that? No you didn't, because you're on your retardo-tunnel), and I literally just gave one really obvious townie reason.

Carry on then.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:47 GMT
#1162
On July 03 2013 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
You're reading far too much into that. If Lazer died overnight (town has no protective roles) then it's a situation that's 100% resolved.

I also don't understand what you're saying my mafia motivation for posting that is.

Actually i can give you a clear mafia motivation. You want the town cop to die if he is town.

After this you don't follow your earlier suspicion but label him as town, with a post full of contradictions.


Do you really think, in your wildest dreams, that me saying that aids that goal?

Either I'm scum with Lazer in which case the idea is nonsense
Or I'm scum and Lazer is town, in which case I post that in the hope of achieving what??

Or I'm town and Lazer is probably town, and if Lazer dies (town can't prevent him being roleblocked/killed) then it's something 100% cleared up?

Hello???
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:48 GMT
#1163
On July 03 2013 07:46 Vivax wrote:
I endorse a shot on marv or Lazer as well.

Hardly seen town marv give a townread based on tryharding and skip on everything else presented. It was fucking deadline man, you don't skip on reading a guy and brush him off cause he's tryharding. That reflects lack of caring.
Lazer/Marv interactions have bad taste to them, too.

Also cause it's funny when marv gets mad.


No, it reflects using my time wisely.

Also it's funny cause you're a dick and also possibly scum.

The list lengthens
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 22:49 GMT
#1165
And it's not you rayn.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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