[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia - Page 202

On July 21 2013 07:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
GG. I knew Chez was the scum, Oats I had a hunch on, but Koshi I would've never guessed. I even thought he redeemed ghost and avoided looking in that direction.

GG

On July 21 2013 09:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
I thought austin was the scum leader and not Ace....His play threw me off so much this game. Made no sense from a town POV :/

On July 21 2013 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Koshi played fine imo.
Chez is still pretty amusing and at least plays the game, albeit in his own strange way.

CA's play I have more of a problem with this game and though the onus is on us for not having killed him for it, it's a borderline dick move to constantly make out-of-game excuses for your play and survive that way.

ESPECIALLY when as far as I can tell most people (if not everyone) tells the truth when they bring out-of-game reasons into the thread for shit play/afk.

On July 21 2013 13:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Koshi played awesome lategame, pretty much sealed with win. Good job .

FT, I have no idea why I asked MG to nuke jampi. I dunno, I really dont.
Good thing town kept him alive way too long.

On July 21 2013 14:01 getmoript wrote:

Are you kidding me? The only reason why Koshi looked like town was because he looked to stupid to be scum. Guess I'll just have to lynch him because I doubt anyone will be able to tell a difference between his normal town stupid and his scum stupid. Also, I'm removing the too stupid to be scum as a town tell because him. If anyone can be that stupid normally or fake being that stupid that well then oh well.

Yah, MG should've died D3. But no one listened to any logical points on why to lynch him instead of nuking him and why that made Ace scum until a day or 2 later.

This is not an example of a game with good scum play. I don't think I've seen a game of good scum play since The Game where Kita and Bugs and BH dominated throughout. Ace played pretty well, but the rest of the scum team rode him like a bitch in heat. Chezinu was Chezinu and he forever will be tunneled, shot, lynched, etc. in every single game from now on until he decides to actually play for real. I hope they lynch his ass in Ver's game. Also, Oats your scum play is going to be pretty easy from now on unless you step it up. This is a prime example of town derping and not having players with a reputation that can push a lynch.

Being able to push a lynch here is 90% reputation, 5% luck, 5% thought. That's why Ace was able to get away with the bullshit he did on D3. Maju gets lynched earlier and you guys have far more problems. Closed setup also heavily favored scum especially with 6 scum and a god awful SK. Game would've been fair if town had 1-2 more vets and idk 3-4 less dumbass lurkers.

On July 21 2013 14:26 getmoript wrote:
I hope they also discuss and tell people to GTFO if they intend to lurk. Nothing is any more infuriating to me than when town lurk-a-derps. I think by the end of D1 13 of 27 players had less than a 1 page filter. Onegu is here and trying to post WHILE HE'S FUCKING SICK OFF HIS ASS!!! People can devote enough time to scumhunt and be productive. If this lurking bullshit doesn't stop then we're going to have to have more vigilantes or find a better way to manage it because that in and of itself really imbalances the games.

On July 21 2013 14:23 s0Lstice wrote:
Being able to push a lynch here is 90% reputation, 5% luck, 5% thought.

couldn't agree more with this. I hope it gets discussed in one of the podcasts at least...the way vets are treated around here is ridiculous.

On July 21 2013 14:35 geript wrote:

I have never seen this sheer level of lurking in a normal game before. Like ever. I don't have any problem with newbies or less experienced players. Lurking is just unacceptable. I really hope that more games actually become invite only if this level of bullshit continues.

Obviously I disagree, but there's an important reason why. The Gumshoe lynch was a really weird situation that I don't think you could reproduce. It was what like D4 so there aren't many players. He was kinda lurking and I thought about Rayn's townread on him from D1 and went fuck it, people don't want to lynch who I want to lynch so I'll throw my hat in with WoS because I know he's town and I don't think I can convince him to lynch otherwise. To get a good lynch early on D1-2 definitely and often D3 as well, you need a someone who can throw their reputation behind the lynch or else it doesn't get moving.

The "experienced" to "newer" player ratio isn't something the host can or should control IMO. I'm a full on believer in random role distribution. My point was that after the early kills town didn't have a "rep" guy who could circle the wagons around a lynch. As for game setup/role balance, I think that the hosts hit the exact numbers and roles right on the money honestly.

On July 21 2013 14:40 geript wrote:

Here's a great example. On D3 was it, I made perfectly good explanations for lynching Maju despite the nuke. I explained it in full. Yet people thought I was trying to lynch a nuke despite knowing that there are nuke immune roles in the game AND that Rayn had called Ace scum. Ace used pretty words. I used logic. Who won that argument?