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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:16 Hurricane Sponge wrote: StiM cast a crucial vote against Onegu. If you're still suspecting him, you're obviously not analyzing from a pro-town perspective. When StiM voted Onegu, he was still two voteswitches away from being lynched, which at that time looked pretty unlikely. It's a point in StiM's favour but not a conclusive one. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:17 hzflank wrote: Exactly. When I dropped that 4th vote on Onegu I was half-expecting Aqua or Hurricane to drop the hammer. Stim could not of know that they would not do this. Stim is likely town. I think that is extremely presumptuous. Read my previous post. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
The mafia play here is to kill me tonight (since I'm probably the only one who can convince Tofu of anything at this point), resulting in a split vote on Day 4 and a mafia win. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:18 Aquanim wrote: When StiM voted Onegu, he was still two voteswitches away from being lynched, which at that time looked pretty unlikely. It's a point in StiM's favour but not a conclusive one. This is the correct takeaway from StiM's behavior. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:19 Hurricane Sponge wrote: If the remaining townies don't see that Aqua is scum, we deserve to lose. (Not that we already don't deserve to lose with the quality posting content of StiM, Xzavier and Alakaslam on our side...) The mafia play here is to kill me tonight (since I'm probably the only one who can convince Tofu of anything at this point), resulting in a split vote on Day 4 and a mafia win. If the remaining townies can't tell that I'm town we're going to lose. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:20 Aquanim wrote: If the remaining townies can't tell that I'm town we're going to lose. Then why did you push so hard to lynch Alakaslam? You must of played out endgame scenarios. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:19 Hurricane Sponge wrote: If the remaining townies don't see that Aqua is scum, we deserve to lose. (Not that we already don't deserve to lose with the quality posting content of StiM, Xzavier and Alakaslam on our side...) The mafia play here is to kill me tonight (since I'm probably the only one who can convince Tofu of anything at this point), resulting in a split vote on Day 4 and a mafia win. You need to explain to me why you think Aqua is more likely to be scum than Spicy. Spicy has been the most obvious scumbuddy of Onegu all game long. They have not butted heads once and even formed a case against me together. I am as certain Spicy is scum as I was that Onegu was mafia an hour ago. | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:16 FirmTofu wrote: No. You don't get to be lazy. You are going to help us find out who the mafia is. If you are town, you need to stop playing terribly. :| Dang.. Yes sir, as you wish. My reads? Onegu = Scum Tracker FirmTofu = non PM town Aqua = null LoneMeow = no comment + Show Spoiler + my last game.. Hurricane = Town (NN probably) Spicy = don't know, he was great town last game. Not getting the same feel. hzflank = null uhh who else is there? Me = lazy fucking bastard that doesn't do shit.. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:21 hzflank wrote: Then why did you push so hard to lynch Alakaslam? You must of played out endgame scenarios. Because I thought he was scum and that if we lynched Onegu we would essentially be in the position we're in now. Look back at my arguments that Alakaslam (and Xzavier, for that matter) was scum and decide for yourself if a townie or a scum made those arguments, aped the spotlight and pushed them hard. I sincerely believed that both of them would flip scum, and hoping that you can see that is the only defence I can make for my play. If you have any questions as to my motivations and my reasons - ask them. I have nothing to hide. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
It doesn't matter, I'm never going to win a tunnel battle with you, Tofu. You are the tunnel king and I'm ready to just start throwing haymakers. I feel like I've said everything there is to say, the game is solved, and I'm probably going to die tonight anyway, so I don't have a vote left in this game. The scum team is Onegu, Aqua and LoneMeow (or Spicy, I haven't looked that far ahead yet). | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On June 27 2013 22:35 Aquanim wrote: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT If you have been roleblocked (you will have been notified by a PM from the host), claim in the thread in your next post that you have been roleblocked. This is NOT a claim that you have a role to be blocked. A player with no powers may also be blocked. This information is far more valuable to the town than it is to mafia when revealed. If you doubt this, check any recent normal game with roleblock/jailkeeper roles. (It just occured to me that no-one has said this yet, and perhaps there's someone who doesn't know.) We all let this slip by. Mafia want to know if they're contending with a JK. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Because less than an hour ago I was quizzing Stim because he mentioned roleblock claims. The next post was a 'public service announcement' from Hurricane. I thought that if Hurricane was town he realized why I asked and was leaving a breadcrumb for me. I thought that if Aqua was town he would noticed the connection. I was waiting to see which of them switched their vote. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote: We all let this slip by. Mafia want to know if they're contending with a JK. <facepalm> Claiming roleblocks is standard play in every TL mafia game. Check with your coach. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On June 24 2013 18:14 Aquanim wrote: The trouble with relying on a Nosy Neighbour counter-claiming later on is that we have no guarantee that there is even a Nosy Neighbour in the game. If there isn't, and scum fake-claims it, they get away scot-free. Sure, we could lynch an uncounterclaimed Nosy Neighbour, but enforcing a claim of it day 1 avoids considerations of "did he only claim it to avoid a lynch?". If there is an actual NN, and scum fake-claims it, then they get counter-claimed and lynched, which is OK. Also, if there is a Nosy Neighbour and they are forced to claim at LYLO, then scum can counter-claim and leave us with a 50-50 chance (which might be a lot better than what they faced before). Since scum would probably only claim NN if it was a choice between a fakeclaim and being lynched, if the NN claim is not available to them they're just as dead (if not more) than if they were counter-claimed anyway. Thus there is no advantage to leaving a NN claim till later in the hopes of counterclaiming a fakeclaim. Already plotting fake-claims, and wants NN to claim early so he knows if that's an option for his team. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote: You wound me. Regarding claims I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles. The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum. Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means. No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.) Regarding scum Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons. 1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me. Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous. 2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own. ##Vote: Chromatically Makes a case on confirmed townie #1 | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:54 Aquanim wrote: I have to admit I've been having trouble understanding what Alakaslam has said so far... but I'm having difficulty seeing his thing about "spamming up the thread with bad bbcode -> scum" (link) coming from a scum player. It just feels too... enthusiastic. I get the overall impression that he is trying. I'd love to see more from him but I'd prefer to lynch Xzavier or Onegu at this point. (A quick note: LoneMeow did say pregame that he would be on vacation until the 27th, so I'm inclined not to lynch him today.) Defends LoneMeow lurking awkwardly | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On June 29 2013 11:31 Aquanim wrote: <facepalm> Claiming roleblocks is standard play in every TL mafia game. Check with your coach. Bad answer. If someone was roleblocked they would of contacted a coach if they needed to. You needed to know whether someone was roleblocked. Why? | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On June 25 2013 15:49 Aquanim wrote: - LoneMeow's two posts feel more constructive than the entirety of your filter - StiMaDDict is a coinflip - I feel like fyfy, Hurricane Sponge and Alakaslam are at least trying, even if they are not being very effective so far. There could well be scum in this group but I'm not nearly as confident about any one of them as I am about you and Onegu. Voting in as of itself is not scumhunting. You aren't trying to gain information by voting me and your case is pretty bad, which doesn't really leave any possible towny motivation for your vote. Bolded | ||
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