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Once he dies ingame or the game ends I'll set him free, give him back his clothes, and send him back to Denmark with $1,500, a box of donuts, and a lithium pill for his troubles. | ||
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What interests me right now is how you can shine a flashlight in a different direction from the one you're walking. I'm thinking you could crabwalk around the edges of the map with your light shining toward the middle, minimizing the space that an Angel has to get to you. | ||
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The corners of the board are right angles, do you want us to stay away from the corners? Does this make you an angel? | ||
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Note that player B can see player J right now. It might help in figuring out if a player is not player B, because they absolutely would see movement in their periphery if they were. | ||
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On May 15 2013 23:45 marvellosity wrote: I don't believe anyone was accusing him of being over-eager? Where do you think he was being over-eager? What is this bizarre semi-defence? :/ On May 15 2013 09:41 fferyllt wrote: hi guys. Nice to meet you. I think I'm going to need to reread the discussion so far a couple of times for it to all sink in. each of us figuring out where we are on the board looks like a priority, whether it makes sense to share that info or not. My gut says it does make sense to share. Whether or how much we should spread out from there...I dunno. Not accusing him, his fluff came to me as more eagerness to do something productive than anything else | ||
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On May 15 2013 23:49 phagga wrote: Why do you know that he altered his gameplay? And since when is it a mistake to be new to TL? And what marv said. I don't, and the mistake is overeagerness, not being new in itself | ||
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I have played many games on TL but none on MS. Thus I know nothing about the latter and can only speculate whether the tone of his posts would be received less skeptically on Mafiascum compared to how it was answered in this thread. | ||
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On May 15 2013 23:58 phagga wrote: You are aware that some the letters are scum, right? So by herding all people together you also get townies near scum. How do you propose to deal with that? This is why I propose everyone to the edges instead of everyone standing back to back in the middle. Speaking of which: On May 15 2013 22:42 deconduo wrote: Can an Angel's movespeed be reduced to 0 if enough people are looking at it? If this is the case, it makes a good argument for gathering in the middle with everyone looking outwards. If they can't reach us they can't kill us. This is very suspicious looking | ||
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Sorry bout that, my phone takes a while to load the site after I post. I didn't see it update. | ||
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I don't find Dec suspicious anymore after his justification although I still disagree with his plan. | ||
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On May 16 2013 00:13 deconduo wrote: What specifically do you disagree with? You seem to have the same idea about gathering in the edges: His initial idea. Ima try to clarify these ideas more when posting in the future so I don't spam up the thread | ||
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On May 15 2013 22:42 deconduo wrote: Can an Angel's movespeed be reduced to 0 if enough people are looking at it? If this is the case, it makes a good argument for gathering in the middle with everyone looking outwards. If they can't reach us they can't kill us. But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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On May 16 2013 05:17 Vivax wrote: This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. It's possible. Which means maybe yes, maybe no. If yes, then angels gain nothing and town gains something. If no, then the angels and town both gain something, but angels gain more because they can use the info to win whereas town only needs to coordinate. However, in the second scenario, townies are able to lie/stay silent to protect themselves. If my movement speed was 5, for instance, I could say I had 2-3 movespeed to attract nearby angels. I see something I'm not supposed to, I can use all 5 the next night and dart around like the wind. Again, assuming the angels know nothing. Really it's all chance. And I don't think it's worth a night experimenting with it. So I'm going to back away from this and agree to disagree. At the very least we will voice our movements before the deadline for clarity's sake. Anything else, like you said, is open to discussion. ##unvote Time for some thoughts on Ghost's recent post. I chimed in my two cents, and then I was off to scum hunt. Unfortunately, it seems that no one is around whenever I'm here. I find a bunch of problems with this alone. Being alone while scumhunting makes my mafiadick hard. It means I can focus on what's already present in the thread with a clear mind, without having to worry about changing conditions. A lot of my reasoning goes out the window when the thread updates. I don't know why you'd have a problem with it and resort to lurking. I'm not happy with Vivax's play, but I'm never happy with Vivax's play. Sentinel's play has been bad this game as well, but IIRC, I always think that. Explain me why you vote for Vivax and not myself. That's a shitty vote to throw around. Game plan for myself is to organize my thoughts because that's what I'm lacking right now. I'm going to draft up another spreadsheet to consolidate my reads tomorrow and then start making calls from that. | ||
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On May 16 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote: This is a really good point. My brain hasn't managed to process a good answer since reading it yet. I could see ghost either intentionally or not setting me up for the fall with that comment as it pretty much implies that he's avoiding any accusation of myself. It would make sense if he were scum to take another player down with him if he ever got caught. | ||
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On May 17 2013 00:14 Sharrant wrote: Sentinel: Sentinel is where my vote would feel safest. His filter just seems off, but not in the "paranoia/jumping at shadows" way that a town player can feel off. He spent so much time defending himself about his weird read early on, but people were asking him questions about it, so he gets a little bit of a pass on that part. The biggest thing that reads as scum in his filter to me, is his dropping of Vivax as a suspect just when everyone else was warming up to his lynch. Sentinel, what do you make of Vivax's actions post-removing your vote from him? Do they reinforce your idea to remove your vote from him, or are they making you reconsider voting for him? The reason I dropped Vivax is because our discussion would have no positive repercussions for the town. He interpreted the setup one way and I another. Since neither of us had anything to go on and arguing it would only spam up the thread, I decided to drop it until one of us had substantial evidence that his or my way of thinking was the right one. I'm really curious myself why Vivax became public enemy number one. What I saw was that he accused Oats but had weak reasoning, BH attacked him and Oats followed up for a quick two votes. Maybe the only thing after that was that Vivax let off a potential scumslip in knowing who B and J are. I feel neutral towards Vivax until I see how he vs Oats turns out. If I were scum I would cling onto Vivax and also further my case in some way or at least sweep it under the rug, not explicitly say "Let's put this aside and focus on something else." If he were town, woo hoo town is dead. If he were scum, I would have either defended him if I felt Oats was weak or bussed him if the sheepwagon gathered enough momentum. Sharrant's large entering post was a bit weird. A lot of the leads were meta-based. I'd like to see a few links to posts to justify those, especially how you and ghost were "on the same wavelength" before. I'm going for a quick eat, if I get back before t-minus 10 minutes I'll add more analysis of someone else | ||
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##unvote ##Vote: deconduo | ||
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##vote: vivax | ||
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There will be a 1 hour resolution period where no posting will be allowed. everyone shut up pls | ||
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I don't think anyone turned left, did they? Which would mean I'm player G. | ||
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On May 17 2013 06:21 deconduo wrote: Don't think so, G moved 4 squares in a straight line. Right you are. In that case, here's a thought. G is blind, D is dead. I suspect there is an angel in the vicinity. He killed D (marv) and blinded G so G can't find him. Which means G is in danger, whoever he is. | ||
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Other than the fact that it's a 180 degree face turn instead of a 90 degree one, I think I might actually be F. | ||
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On May 16 2013 05:32 Vivax wrote: I don't see what you want to say with that post. We all have movement speeds, but do the angels know it? Sentinel looks sure that they don't know it. It's a matter of picking more information for us or less information for the angels (in the case that they DON'T know it), which isn't even sure. Let's say 4 of us have MS 3, then 4 have 4, last 4 have 5. If we purposefully slow down our movement it will be harder to discern who is who, at best if 3 of the MS 5 players move slower, then we could be sure about who is the remaining MS 5 player. It's essentially a gamble on the angels having that information or not having it, let's talk a little about it. Regarding this post and Vivax's side in the argument, does this imply that the angels don't know all of the players' movespeeds? | ||
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On May 17 2013 06:42 Zephirdd wrote: had he survived, a big shitstorm would ensue today. Especially because at a point he was actually fooling me. Right but he could ensure his survival in other ways. He could have pushed dec (who was gathering steam at this point), maybe not written as much but still found something. He could have broken off some votes onto feryl, Sharrant or myself, each of whom had at least 1-2 mildly suspicious people on them at the time. If he thought it was too late, could have defended me à la ghost_403. EBWOP: Implied defend, push cases on one of the above players and ignore these faults of other players. | ||
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The mechanic that scares me the most is that angel's movespeed increases by some amount every day. Assuming that mechanic isn't unique to Vivax. Which means that if anything, they can stall us out. At some point, even if every town player on the board is looking at an angel, he will still be able to move around. My next priority once I get out of bed next morning is to re-analyze Vivax's interactions to see if there's something we can uncover now that he's scum. Otherwise, the thread's been pretty quiet since the day post and everyone's figured out generally which letter they are, so review is the best option we have right now. | ||
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Thank you and good night. | ||
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##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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2 of those 3 are scum, I'm HIV positive about it | ||
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On May 17 2013 23:37 Zephirdd wrote: also everyone consider this: If Oats is town, who is scum? Dec and ghost | ||
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Starting tomorrow however, I should have ample time to play mafia and accurately read the thread. | ||
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I'm going to side with precedent here and recall that Vivax claimed to misunderstand the movement rules as well. This is why I will keep my vote on Oats and not switch to dec... yet. | ||
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On May 18 2013 21:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Deconduo defended himself by saying. OMGUS. Which it wasnt. ##Vote: Deconduo What I sent was 3 up and look up. The reason why I said 'I wanted to move here' was that I figured that there was probably angels or statues in the area between HB6 and AAU25. So moving up and looking up would be the most efficient way I felt. Then with no one else claiming B, and B is matching my movement, and I think everything else was claimed already right? So I was in the right place that my actions indicated. You know what? As someone who spent half of Day 1 dealing with a frenzy of accusation because one of my posts got taken out of context, I wholeheartedly believe this post. Now I can vote for deconduo like I intended. ##Unvote ##Vote deconduo | ||
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Dec I don't trust you at all because the last two days you've been constantly setting off my scumdar. | ||
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On May 19 2013 00:20 Oatsmaster wrote: why do none of you have a sense of humor  .Really boring guys. really boring. im disappointed. Everytime I make jokes people accuse me of being a scum | ||
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On May 19 2013 03:50 fferyllt wrote: 1. Oatsmaster - null 2. Sharrant - null 4. deconduo - no counterclaim, tentative town 5. Zephirdd - town 7. ghost_403 - null 8. [UoN]Sentinel - leaning scum 9. Blazinghand - town 11. mkfuba07 - null 12. phagga - town I doubt that all my town reads are accurate. But I bet there is at least one scum in my nulls. Possibly Sharrant. mkfuba07 has really not made any impression at all on me and that's probably a bad sign. Of all the suspicious posts in the thread, only my whiteknighting is enough to give you a scum read? What kind of weed have you been smoking ##unvote ##vote fferyllt Post actual reads pls | ||
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On May 19 2013 04:55 phagga wrote: Oats has not voted at all, he risks getting warned or even modkilled. I doubt he made it on purpose. This would give credence to the idea that his absence after he was accused and nearly lynched had nothing to do with the accusation itself. My phone is at 2% charge, I'm getting off after the lynch and should be back for the daypost | ||
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Deconduo, what have your alleged detective powers informed you? | ||
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On May 19 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote: My guess is that both you and oats tried to move to the same space, and therefore stopped moving. Crap... My flashlight is out (obviously), but G's is back on, so that effect must only work for one turn. This makes sense. ##Vote: ghost_403 | ||
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On May 19 2013 08:09 Zephirdd wrote: In case people didn't realize it, I am a vigilante and I just shot sharrant. I guess I was wrong -_- I'm River Song. Fluff says I met the doctor on the wrong order blablabla and I have a bullet, which I just spent. Breadcumbs on first post: Also, A and B are town. Like, A and B are confirmed town. Which means we don't lynch oats nor deconduo. That's how I'm interpreting it at least; or does puppets show as green to lanterns? A = deconduo GREEN B = oats GREEN C = phagga F = Sentinel G = Zephirdd H = ghost I = mkfuba phagga has been playing blatantly town this game. which leaves Sentinel, ghost and mkfuba. Puppets are green I assume, since their game pieces are green. We have no confirmation that either Dec or Oats are green. You've answered my next question, which is which side the vig belongs to. I thought it would be an angel though, didn't think your bullet could shoot that far. I'm still gunning for ghost. He's lurking far too much and far too conveniently. He was completely absent for the feryl lynch discussion and the run-up to it. | ||
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On May 19 2013 08:19 Zephirdd wrote: It wasnt far. I asked sharrant to move towards me. I was adjacent to him. Ah I see. This many blues is leaving me once again in doubt of Dec's color. I'm not ready to point my finger at him yet though. | ||
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It seems passionate and poorly thought out. He's not trying to figure out Sentinel's alignment, or really thinking about what's going on; he's trying to push him onto the defensive and start an easy lynch. It kind of looks like he immediately dropped it, but it is kind of hard to tell at this point in the game. Until someone convinces me that leaving Vivax in game is a good idea, ##vote vivax And ends his post in a manner that makes it look like he's certain Vivax is scum (which he is) off of one paragraph of reasoning. When Oats slips he posts this: On May 17 2013 11:04 ghost_403 wrote: I wanted to move here. That's a curious thing to say. And then launches into his analysis of the players. Note that in his 11:17 post, he doesn't mention this oddity, but instead builds a sizable case on Sharrant. But then Zeph during this time points out the scumslip and ghost chucks his case out the window to get on the Oatsmaster wagon. Only then does he begin to build a case on the one alleged scumslip, writing with the conviction that Oats is scum. He doesn't stop to consider the alternatives, and I know this because his case severely weakens when Zephirdd presents a counterargument, and disappears after Oats' justification. This is why we lynch ghost_403 | ||
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What is that three votes on ghost? Get your asses in here sheepies, and put on your lynching pants, it's action time. | ||
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On May 20 2013 03:03 Zephirdd wrote: Sentinel where are your spreadsheet notes Ima post those more sparingly. Partially I don't want scum to see my complete thought process, partially because manipulating the colors on google docs is a fucking nightmare from my phone. I'll do it would out of necessity. | ||
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Or in this case since you're going forward, the red angel will be illuminated in your flashlight | ||
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I must stress to you all the importance of keeping your vote on ghost because of this. | ||
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First off the reason I didn't move. + Show Spoiler + I was suntanning on my roof since about 12 PM my time (5:10 currently for me, for reference) and I fell off. Luckily my house has two roofs and I fell from the upper one to the lower one. I got banged up hard, nothing that required medical attention but there was a decent amount of blood and I spent a while cleaning it up. Second off I was extremely convinced ghost would flip scum. I had a mini heart attack when I saw he was townie. Luckily I'm still alive and I wrote down a case last night for my next lynch target. I'll update it with the current circumstances and share with you all. | ||
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I have been aware of the third scum for some time now. In fact, he was hiding under my nose the third time. The third angel is Deconduo. I became aware of this shortly before the fferyllt lynch. Look at page 3 of his filter. In order, he implicitly accuses ghost, feryl and oats without offering substantial evidence for any lynch. Actually he did accuse ghost beforehand, but only when he felt it was safe to do so - when I pointed out ghost's slip in accusing vivax and not myself. I thought it was distancing but it still appears to make sense with a towny ghost and a scummy dec. He can soft accuse feryl or oats and incite others to actually push for their lynch, without seeming like a catalyst for a mislynch (of feryl) in the event that either of them flip town. This is a very scummy action. But this can be construed as an indecisive townie in some way, so we couldn't rule out the possibility that he was in fact, a detective. But then he makes his next mistake - offering absolute zero pro-town information. In fact, he fills the thread with complaints and questions that he could not reach and check Oatsmaster. On May 19 2013 08:08 deconduo wrote: Also the sharrant kill doesn't look like it was an angel feeding. If it was, it should say he was sent back in time. Seeing as there was a neck snapped as well, I'd guess that was a 3rd party kill. This is the only post of the time period that breaks this trend. Note the implications of the third party here - we are not only to hunt the 2 scums but find a third player who may be something like SK. He is distracting from our prime directive at this point. Luckily Zeph steps in as the vig. But this takes the cake: I suppose his teammate is just bussing him rather than risking his head. This (as well as the post it was contained in) confirmed my read on deconduo when I was looking at the reasons people were voting for ghost. Deconduo sheeped my case without any constructive remarks to silently align himself behind the mislynch. Using his soft accusations he can quickly sheep any player he previously accused, here being ghost. And then, he plays dumb to further his standing as detective. By making all these questions, which the mod had already answered, dec keeps implying he is a detective and by extension so is Oats. So why would an actual detective want to waste another valuable night confirming someone he already knows? No, scum deconduo has been clouding up the process of finding scum with questions about a known mechanic in the game. And the hardest part of today has been watching Deconduo dig himself his own grave and say nothing about it until the time is right. On May 20 2013 10:11 deconduo wrote: Also BH used his illumination skill and both of us are showing up as human in that as well. And in the end, he still tries to paint himself green. This is the plan. We lynch deconduo next night. | ||
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On May 21 2013 06:24 phagga wrote: your only reaction was this: And then the vote. also, it was clear that several people were voting him because he used absolute movements instead of relative. However, you never mentioned that you used only absolute movements as well. Why not? I used relative as well. I turned left, then from that reference frame I moved two right and 1 up. Up being forward. | ||
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On May 21 2013 07:02 phagga wrote: Ok, now I feel like a complete moron. ##Unvote Happens to the best of us. Speaking of which I forgot to add my vote. Vote: deconduo | ||
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2. Zero impact does not constitute scum play. New players tend to lurk. Actually if you pushed ghost and found scum like an actual towny ghost would be lynched one night faster And maybe feryl would have done something instead of getting sheeped. He turned out to be town, but we would have been able to rectify that mislynch by today. 3. This falls under the category of "useless posts intended to confuse". We already learned from the mods several days ago that all of the pieces on the board are human or puppet humans. Note that in his infinite wisdom, Crossfire labeled angels as red on the key. Do you see any red pieces on the board? (Well you might because you're scum, I don't know, do you guys have a secret doc) Hence any post where you said either of you were human or puppet was scummy. 4. Or you know... you're setting up an Oats mislynch. Not evident in itself but it's a probable conclusion if one believes Dec is scum. Which I do. 5. It's lynch or lose today, my friend. The only way I die tomorrow is if you and your confederate kill me tonight. (I'm implying its a scumslip) | ||
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Implies that when a flashlight is not shone on it, an angel will not be recognizable. Also, with angels visible this game would be broken as fuck. If you thought Oats' player piece was an angel I don't see why you would sacrifice yourself, an alleged blue, just so Oats can get lynched the next day. Note that greymist answered the question whereas crossfire was the one that didn't. Maybe cross was mad because people weren't reading the thread and asked a question that the hosts already answered. Here he is answering again: On April 16 2013 03:21 GreYMisT wrote: Read under angel powers, they have a number of fake people they control on the board | ||
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I have nothing productive to reveal at the moment. I will return when this changes. | ||
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On May 21 2013 10:05 Oatsmaster wrote: ##Vote: Deconduo Im town, Phagga is town cause he doesnt fucking play like this as scum in the SLIGHTEST. So therefore what does this mean? DECONDUO IS SCUM! game too ez. Fuck if there were 2 scum wagons at the start, I need to think about a lotta things. Oats you keep forgetting to vote in the voting thread | ||
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Real quick, I'm ruling out Oats as scum assuming Dec flips red because for two scum to bus each other at lylo is incredibly stupid. If by some miracle he doesn't, it'll be too late to care. I'm rereading to find out the second scum, but I'm not voting him today. I'm voting deconduo today. | ||
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On May 22 2013 05:08 phagga wrote: Sentinel, any news on your second scum read? One at a time. | ||
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Phagga you better have some quality shit on Oatsmaster to justify yourself because your vote is deciding this election. | ||
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On May 22 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Sentinel is second scum after deconduo. Why? Cause he has been flipflopping around my 'scumslip' and now of course he doesnt think phagga is scum, and he cant find any stronger reasons for me to be scum. I never thought phagga was scum. I fell into the sheephole and when you presented your justification of "I wanted to move here" I realized you were in a similar position I fell into by defending feryl. That's when I realized the error of my ways. I pushed for Dec but that one was harder to prove at the moment so I went for ghost. Although ghost flipped town, I gathered more scum play from the dec camp. Why are you not scum? Because Dec is, and for either of you to bus each other at lylo would be so idiotic I would make it a duty to policy lynch both of you from now on. Mkfuba is scum because he fluffs like a mofo and cherrypicks evidence. He believes dec's claim wholeheartedly yet votes to lynch you due to a scumslip and questionable meta. That's playing blind to so many facets of what's transpiring here, its obvious he is trying to sheep you simply because the alternative would be to bus Dec. It is for this reason I will not strive to convince him for he cannot be convinced as scum, but phagga can. | ||
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On May 22 2013 10:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Sentinel is second scum after deconduo. Why? Cause he has been flipflopping around my 'scumslip' and now of course he doesnt think phagga is scum, and he cant find any stronger reasons for me to be scum. Oh you misconstrued my post, I didn't see it. I'm still pushing Dec, I'm simply voicing my disdain for the Oats wagon and its integrity. I wish for the three remaining towns to vote for Dec, and I am asking Phagga what justification he could have to vote for you. | ||
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Dec had nothing to lose. Sure enough, he could've passed himself as the third blue and pretended to be a DT. Zeph was one who would've pointed out that he too was a blue and there were an awful lot of blues in the game. But otherwise it would've been insanely hard to bust Dec or anyone on a simple claim. Imagine you were the real detective and someone else claimed - both of you haven't been able to secure a position next to someone to check , whether on purpose or accident. With your word against his, it would be impossible to root him out as scum. The rest of the players would suspect one of you is blue and the other red, but nothing more. Similarly in this case it is my word against dec's. I have attempted to lay out points that strengthen the notion that he is scum, and he has done the same to defend himself. I'm just claiming that my points make more sense in context than him. The fact that ghost was lynched sealed the deal. Now it is 2 vs 3 and thus the vote should hang on the balance of one townie. Maybe it is you who are town after all - I make mistakes and I have not analyzed either of you just yet. But dec's fakeclaim is very strong here - he wins, he wins the game. He loses, its 1 v 2 tomorrow and we have to start the scumhunt from scratch. TL;DR Fakeclaiming isn't as dangerous as you think it is. | ||
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On May 22 2013 16:13 mkfuba07 wrote: What scum gains from this wouldn't be that simple, and what I need to assume for this plan to work is far, far more than scum would have to. In my scenario, scum don't simply gain a mislynch on oats. They kill a confirmed, experienced townie (zeph), avoid allowing deconduo to make oats a confirmed townie, almost guarantee a mislynch on oats, and in turn win the game because it's lylo. Those are a LOT of gains when the alternative is letting deconduo confirm the most lynchable townie. And as for the assumptions scum would have to make in that scenario, they know everyone's alignment already, they didn't need to come up with a last minute plan, just unveil it at the last minute, and the rest of those assumptions are just implicitly part of the plan that they would have formed. Your list of town phagga assumptions is right though... And I just now understood what you really said about my assumptions. I'm wondering if I've been Sherlocking it (that's what I've decided to call it when I find a scum plan that I think fits so perfectly that I can't believe it's not the truth). The ease with which I feel a scum phagga could have developed this plan is at odds with how I would otherwise feel about your alignment. I'll have to think on it a bit more, possibly set myself straight. In any case, I do still believe deconduo, which means that either you or oats is scum (but not both). That leaves only Sentinel as the last scum. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel Oh, and as for oats's plan... I'm kind of against it. HOLD THE FUCK UP You're telling me that you don't know whether phagga or Oats is town because Oats refuted your plan, so by that logic I'm the scum? | ||
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On May 22 2013 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote: because both you or dec could be scum, and I dont think its both. So there is one scum in sent or mkfuba. Which I think its easier to figure out than you or dec considering the fact that you caused the check to cause this confusion. I think you are town, but Dec is claimed blue, and lynching claimed blue takes a lotta proof for me, and I dont wanna risk it over my read on him or you. So therefore, filtered both sent and mkfuba, And I think that what I see is that mkfuba is scum. mkfuba, who do you wanna lynch? Okay. So now, after voting for Dec not once but twice today, you suspect that he's indubitably blue compared to phagga? I am going to admit something - I've been making a mistake all day. In my zeal to push Deconduo I couldn't see the fact that out of the five of us, one has bothered to contribute minimal information. One of us spent the entire thread asking questions like "What do you think of X" while rarely taking the initiative and posting his own reasoning. One of us has been making jokes in an effort to take the heat off of himself. One of us has sheeped every vote so far. Oats has never in this game voted for someone out of his own volition except when someone did it already before him. And he dares to accuse me and condemn me on the premise that I flip flopped on feryl's vote when he himself switched from Dec to Phagga to Dec to mkfuba to myself. On about one paragraph of actual evidence at a time. In my zeal to push a lynch i forgot to look at the big picture, and now I realize not only did Oats scumslip but he's been playing scum this whole time. Forgive me, Deconduo. ##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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On May 22 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Well no, I said that I dont want to make a decision today between you 2 because Im not confident in killing dec cause blue, and not confident in flipping you cause you townish. And I want to kill outside that. I am now firm in the belief that Sent is scum. Yay thanks sent for posting that case. Isnt it easier to make a decsion between 2 people for dec/sent/mkfuba? Than 3 people if me/you/dec is up for lynch? Keep believing that. See where it gets you. I might not be here at the deadline itself but I'll check in whenever I can. Everyone vote Oats. The reason I can't make a big case on him like I did with ghost and dec is that his lack of substance is spread all across his filter. Six pages of "what do you think of abcdefg" and sheep. | ||
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On May 22 2013 23:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I do this in a whole lotta games.... Show a meta reason why im scum if you can. I've never played with you. All I see is scum play so I vote for the person who I'm most convinced is scum. That would be you. | ||
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And by extension of your logic, I am not scum so I am convinced that Oats is. Oh and oats doesn't actually have much of an argument, he parrots other peoples words to make it look like he's contributing. | ||
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On May 23 2013 02:26 Crossfire99 wrote: Day 4 Lynch Oatsmaster (3): deconduo, phagga, [UoN]Sentinel (2): deconduo (0): phagga (0): mkfuba07 (0): The lynch will happen in at 20:00 GMT (+00:00). With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Oatsmasters name is in every slot except for his Vote for Oat | ||
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He said phagga is town I'm town Vote: mkfuba07 But its not like you guys are going to believe me amirite | ||
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Mk could you justify why dec and oats would bus each other? assuming they are both scum | ||
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Vivax bussed oats as well and it got him killed... I wonder. My head's not in this game, I'm going to go reread the debate I had with dec. Until then ##Vote deconduo | ||
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All good though, it's the final day no matter what. | ||
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10 minutes left then we all go home | ||
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SURPRISE!!! | ||
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I'm so sad I made a good read and threw it away | ||
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