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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
I consider ghost like sort of lynchworthy but his interaction with oats seems genuine to me. I don't think his first post is worth crap though. I'm down for vivax lynch. I'll reread after chinese micro and be more specific and give a better read | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 15 2013 22:42 deconduo wrote: Can an Angel's movespeed be reduced to 0 if enough people are looking at it? If this is the case, it makes a good argument for gathering in the middle with everyone looking outwards. If they can't reach us they can't kill us. But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
On May 16 2013 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On May 15 2013 23:58 Zephirdd wrote: What do you think of sentinel and fferyllt? I don't know why ffer took so much offence to Sentinel defending him. While everyone can speak for themselves, there's no reason not to chime in with your opinion on matters. Apart from that, his last post seems reasonable enough, though calling these two posts 'reads' is stretching somewhat  On May 16 2013 01:07 fferyllt wrote: Being whiteknighted like this gives me a bad case of hives. Sentinel needs to be more careful with his reading and posting. The above vote clearly shows he missed Vivax's last post, which asked him a few questions. He also misquoted me instead of Blazing. He said he was posting from his phone, but either way he should double check things before hitting the post button, as he's not contributing properly otherwise. Ugh. In this case, scrap the gathering together plan for now. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Claim choices and speed shortly before the phase ends. People might end up doing the same movements though, but if everyone moves at maximum speed we will be able to sort it out and narrow down the options. Why are we required to move at max MS? by claiming direction+speed+facing_direction, we already narrow down tons of possibilities. also this I'm not sure if it's a good idea to look for the sides, it might make you less vulnerable, but also more predictable for the angels. It's a 25x25 board. It's not predictable when we are completely protected from one entire side of the board. Vivax, bring in your scum reads. Reasoning etc, be active. ##Vote Vivax | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
On May 16 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote: dude. Read the setup talk. There is nothing of value that we can do day 1 when we dont even know which piece we are. Marv, I wanted you to explain about Please? for me? Sweet babe  Deconduo and Sentinel. Huh. Deconduo. All fucking setup talk, no scumhunting. This isnt unique btw, there are a few people like him. They cant all be scum though, as much as I would want it. Wait and see, WAIT AND SEE. Deconduo, top 2 scumspects. GOOOO. Sentinel, I liked his analysis on fferyllt. nothing more though, as of now, he is in my DO NOT LYNCH pile. Is this serious? He literally said that FF looks productive for posting fluff. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On May 16 2013 05:17 Vivax wrote: This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. >ctrl+f speed on crossfire's and greymist's filter > one match, saying 1. Which direction they would like to move (each player has a movement speed, you will be told this in your Role PM) Okay | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 16 2013 05:23 Zephirdd wrote: >ctrl+f speed on crossfire's and greymist's filter > one match, saying Okay ctrl-f crossfire's filter for "possible" (er, or possibly) | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 15 2013 06:51 Vivax wrote: You also have to factor in that multiple players could have the same MS. In the OP there's no mentioning of the angel's knowledge about other player's movement speed, cause if they don't know it, it might not be the smartest idea to claim it. Do Angels know the players' movement speeds? On May 15 2013 06:55 GreYMisT wrote: Its Possible Okay! | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On May 16 2013 05:26 marvellosity wrote: ctrl-f crossfire's filter for "possible" (er, or possibly) Oh. Yes. On May 15 2013 06:51 Vivax wrote: You also have to factor in that multiple players could have the same MS. In the OP there's no mentioning of the angel's knowledge about other player's movement speed, cause if they don't know it, it might not be the smartest idea to claim it. Do Angels know the players' movement speeds? On May 15 2013 06:55 GreYMisT wrote: Its Possible okay.jpg ##unvote | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
Sentinel looks sure that they don't know it. It's a matter of picking more information for us or less information for the angels (in the case that they DON'T know it), which isn't even sure. Let's say 4 of us have MS 3, then 4 have 4, last 4 have 5. If we purposefully slow down our movement it will be harder to discern who is who, at best if 3 of the MS 5 players move slower, then we could be sure about who is the remaining MS 5 player. It's essentially a gamble on the angels having that information or not having it, let's talk a little about it. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 16 2013 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax This post is bad. If you would have taken a minute to go through Vivax' filter (which was like 6 posts at that point) you would have seen that your whole second paragraph is wrong. So, with this out of the way, do you still think Vivax is scum? Is there anyone else your suspicious of? | ||
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Vivax
22408 Posts
On May 16 2013 05:23 Zephirdd wrote: >ctrl+f speed on crossfire's and greymist's filter > one match, saying Okay I didn't understand what you meant with this one | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
let's talk a little about it. Ok. We have facing direction and movement direction to discern each other. Done talking. Can you form a case on Sentinel bigger than the said "scumslip"? I had forgotten about the question of the MS you made, and I don't think it's impossible that the same happened there. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On May 15 2013 11:09 ghost_403 wrote: Everyone, glhf. Two quick thoughts. First of all, this is a Greymist game. Don't rely on mechanics or power roles or anything else. At the end of the day, the only way to make sure that the town wins the game is to really rely on scum hunting. Focus on finding scum, don't get too caught up in the mechanics. Secondly, I think I agree with Phagga, that we need some sort of plan to start working together to identify all of the pieces on the board. His plan of claiming before the lynch is pretty solid and comes at no loss to us. Sure, the mafia are going to mess with our plans, but there's only so much that they can do. I would like to start working together on that so that we fix the information imbalance; *hushed voice* they already know where we are. Lastly (totally lied about the two quick thoughts), I'm lynching Marv Day 3 if he's not dead at that point. @marv <3 And numbah four (I worship chaos), I have a MS of 4. First of all he says not to get worked up about the mechanics, then he spend the rest of the post talking about the mechanics. Then he says that we need a plan, but doesn't offer any suggestions about that plan, apart from liking Phagga's idea. Thirdly about lynching marv is just terrible in general. Finally, claiming his movespeed is also a massively WTF thing to do. On May 15 2013 11:19 ghost_403 wrote: We're assuming that the angels have to be physically close to the other players in order to use their night actions. Someone speculated earlier that town PRs would have similar mechanics. Not dying at night >> dying at night. But, you're right. Focus on finding scum. You have any thoughts on the other players so far? Again he speculates on mechanics, and follows up by saying we should emphasize scumhunting. Yet he offers no opinions himself. I know 2 posts isn't a lot to go on, but he's definitely the scummiest person to me so far. ##Vote ghost_403 | ||
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