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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 04:51 GMT
#1221
Jesus christ you people aren't too bright. I was asleep and sandro was posting. I told you I had 30 minutes. Can anyone actually explain what about my play makes me mafia? No one has even attempted to.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 04:55 GMT
#1222
I'm not mafia, and even if you think I'm mafia, DESPITE THERE BEING NO CASE AT ALL, you should shoot that nuke down as it confirms a player and gives us the chance to convince you otherwise
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 04:58 GMT
#1226
On April 15 2013 13:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
By that I mean:

Until you scumhunt, you die.

Can you point to a single thing in my filter that is indicative of me not being straightforward with my thoughts? No, because it's not possible. Your case amounts to a stupid meta assumption of me always, under every circumstances and format, being useful and not lazy. You aren't even trying.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 05:00 GMT
#1228
If there is an anti-nuker out there who understands the concept of timezones, shoot the nuke down, thanks.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 05:07 GMT
#1231
I'll likely come up with something when I'm home and get a chance to discuss things with sandro, although putting in effort after being nuked out of the blue n1 while I was asleep is difficult
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 06:30 GMT
#1232
On April 15 2013 07:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 07:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
Hmmm I'm not sure about killing syllo. Everyone remember his plan for people to nuke themselves?

On April 13 2013 16:51 SamuelLJackson wrote:
How about we have either have everyone nuke themselves? It's seems very likely that at least mafia has a nuke, and possibly both mafia and town. It's 8-3, but, without taking nukes into account, that doesn't impact the number of mislynches we have, and therefore I think it's very unlikely that mafia has no roles given how much everyone being a hydra favors town. With this assumption at worst we get a 1-1 trade and if there's an anti-nuker, we could even decide to save one.


Not a bad plan and I wouldn't expect mafia to come up with something like this.

No, it was a terrible plan.

Terrible.

No, you are terrible. It was an incredibly pro-town plan that was only foiled by the fact that you could also nuke over PMs, which I clearly did not know about, because if you work on the assumption that I'm mafia, I would have known that someone would point out the flaw and make the plan would suddenly look pro-mafia.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 06:33 GMT
#1233
So, by nuking me, congratulations for essentially nullifying the advantage we gained by lynching the mafia nuker on day 1.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 06:41 GMT
#1237
On April 15 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Syllo - the issue here is that you (or sandro) left us promising to read through filters hours before the deadline, and did nothing instead, leaving your vote on what looks to be a guaranteed townie at this point.

I didn't promise anything, I said I had 30 minutes and then went to bed. Sandro apparently had to go out for a dinner and it doesn't look like he promised anything either.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 07:33 GMT
#1242
No it does not, unless you think I'm lying about being asleep and about Sandro's dinner (I can assure you I am not).

So just to keep record, so far the reasons for suspecting me have amounted to not understanding timezones, reading comprehension issues and me being slightly less active than usual. Not a single content based reason has been suggested by anyone. But keep pretending as if any of you had a reason for nuking me day 1
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 07:44 GMT
#1244
That's a meta reason, because townies are useless all the time, in particular on day 1. I'm using 'useless' as a relative, meta based adjective and not as an absolute, objective characterization of my play. If it wasn't me (and nominally sandro) playing, none of you would find me suspicious at all and I don't think that evaluation would be applicable.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 07:52 GMT
#1248
There's content and it's day 1. If that's the standard, or excuse, you are going to use to lynch and nuke people on day 1, you aren't going to be winning many games.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 07:56 GMT
#1250
False, I presented content based reasons for the lynch and someone even had noticed the same things (mockarmor). Perhaps that was your reason for finding him suspicious, but it was not mine. Palmar hasn't accused me of anything, just said that I'm "scum". How do you propose I respond to that?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 07:59 GMT
#1252
It's palmar not reading closely, because Sandro is the one who was open to lynching Vivax.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 08:00 GMT
#1254
Add that to the list, Palmar imagining I said a thing, when I didn't
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 08:06 GMT
#1256
On April 15 2013 16:59 MockArmor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:56 SamuelLJackson wrote:
False, I presented content based reasons for the lynch and someone even had noticed the same things (mockarmor). Perhaps that was your reason for finding him suspicious, but it was not mine. Palmar hasn't accused me of anything, just said that I'm "scum". How do you propose I respond to that?

Yes, though you would have been aware we were deeply entrenched with other scum pursuits; you still decided to throw that back at MA as suspicious.

I can not know if he had genuinely reached the same conclusion as I had or just claimed so afterwards.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#1259
I have not called anyone an idiot, nor have I implied that either. I do not have a habit of doing that. Suspecting me is fine per se, I admit that there is semi-valid meta based evidence for that. If I'm berating you for something, it's for nuking me while I was asleep and for accusing me of fictional things and expecting me to not sleep. You are right that it would be better if I could provide context for this kind of reads, but it's not easy to explain why something feels faked. Sometimes just highlighting the fact is sufficient, nothing wrong with that.

It's an early day 1 case and a lot of other people were very content lynching purely based on a person lurking. Are they being held accountable? The point being, you can not expect a very throughout case on day 1 and it's not my style either. That does not prevent you from analyzing my play. Indeed, people are analyzed based on other aspects of their play all the time. "Accountability" for analysis isn't the main method, at least accountability in the sense that you have to understand why I reached the conclusion I did. In this case there is auxiliary evidence supporting the notion that the read was genuine because someone else had allegedly reached the same conclusion.

If you got the idea that I'm calling you or anyone else bad, you got it wrong. What I'm saying it that the decision was wrong, based on faulty evidence and there was NO NEED whatsoever to do that n1. I'm understandably angry.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 09:09 GMT
#1260
If I had been alive tomorrow, you could easily have announced that you are nuking me if I don't make myself useful. That would have provided me the opportunity to shape up. Now that really only matters if there is an anti-nuker and I have much less time than I would otherwise.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 09:18 GMT
#1262
Palmar why so bad
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#1264
You should read my defense and tell the anti-nuker how towny I am
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 09:22 GMT
#1267
Not tomorrow at least, I would have to reread him to give a better answer and that sounds like effort
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