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Hydra Mini Mafia II - Extra Nuke Edition

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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 10 2013 15:50 GMT
#22
/in (sandroba/syllogism)
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 07:34 GMT
#471
On April 13 2013 08:58 John Matrix wrote:
ok I just got modconfirmed town so my work here is done. Syllo will explain why I'm confirmed tomorrow. If he doesn't he's scum.

See you, I'm gonna go watch the watchmen again.

Because most* hosts are terrible** and only make jokes and interact with players who are town. This literally happens every game.

*everyone except you
**no offense intended
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 07:51 GMT
#473
How about we have either have everyone nuke themselves? It's seems very likely that at least mafia has a nuke, and possibly both mafia and town. It's 8-3, but, without taking nukes into account, that doesn't impact the number of mislynches we have, and therefore I think it's very unlikely that mafia has no roles given how much everyone being a hydra favors town. With this assumption at worst we get a 1-1 trade and if there's an anti-nuker, we could even decide to save one.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 08:15 GMT
#478
On April 13 2013 15:32 MockArmor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 14:33 FiveTouch wrote:
Also is that the only question you have? I find it hard to believe that the entire body of your thoughts hinge on the answer to that question.

The disappointing aspect of the game is that we have a bunch of people waiting for better scumhunters to "carry" them. And yet, their lack of participation makes it that much harder to find scum (like half the people in the game, so they can't all be scum...).

At the time of this post the game had been going on for less than 8 hours; did you genuinely find the thread worse than usual and their posting indicative of them waiting for others to "carry" them? Can you make a list of players (should be easy since you suggested that there were many) who you thought were doing this? You named one, but that was just a person who prima facie left due to time zone constraints.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 08:30 GMT
#479
Palmar any thoughts on WaveOfCheesecake?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 08:44 GMT
#481
It's Syllogism. Did you the answer in some way informative?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 09:03 GMT
#484
It feels like marv is genuinely incredulous at the fact hapa is making some of the accusations and both of them have posted some content. Nothing seems to stand out so far so I don't think they are a priority at all right now.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 09:31 GMT
#486
On April 13 2013 18:12 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 18:03 SamuelLJackson wrote:
It feels like marv is genuinely incredulous at the fact hapa is making some of the accusations and both of them have posted some content. Nothing seems to stand out so far so I don't think they are a priority at all right now.

Who do you think is the priority right now?

Players who haven't by the time of lynch produced meaningful content despite being here and the game being a hydra game. In a hydra format players should be more confident in sharing their thoughts and lacking the need to comment on irrelevant things as they can discuss things with their partner. Meanwhile mafia still feels the pressure of posting.

WaveOfCheesecake's has a bunch of fluff, but also a few serious posts that don't give me the impression of a curious townie. His read on you somewhat point towards the other way though regardless of your alignment.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 10:30 GMT
#487
On April 13 2013 10:12 VIVAX420 wrote:
@hapa only one of those were me.. the all caps one lol. I'd prob think vivax was scum if I wasn't hydrad with him. I guess that is just his playstyle though.

I'm serious though you can't be on hapa that is a violation of the rules I think.

This feels a bit off. Why do you say that? It doesn't seem to indicate a mindset of a town hydra. When you know someone's alignment this kind of thought isn't very likely to cross your mind, unless it's a more defensive response, indicative of guilt. What about vivax's posts did you find suspicious, even knowing his alignment?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 14:19 GMT
#527
Mocsta you didn't answer my question. Why did you attempt to make a big deal out of a person posting something that in essence looked like a confirmation post and a post implying that he was going to bed? The complaint in general feels false given that the game had just started and it doesn't seem like you could have genuinely felt frustrated by the state of things at the time of the post.

Palmar: still interested in your thoughts on Waveofcheese
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 14:28 GMT
#531
On April 13 2013 23:25 raynmaster wrote:
SamuelLJackson how sure you are John Matrix is town based on the nuke stuff? Why?

/rayn

How is this relevant to your interests right now? Do you otherwise find his play suspicious? I'm not wasting time explaining things that have been discussed repeatedly. He isn't "confirmed", but due to the exchange between him and dandel he is very likely to be town and shouldn't be someone who you should worry about right now.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 17:41 GMT
#598
FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me.

On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote MockArmor


Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!

the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.

It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote.

His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post.

Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 21:33 GMT
#671
Prom: you have provided no opportunity to interact with you, and you should know this; you have been way less active than in the previous games I've played with you and you were town. I'm not particularly interested in interacting with you anyway except when I have something specific to ask. You haven't defended your read on vivax420, and it still reads false to me. Since he is still your strongest read, you should be able to provide a better case than the one you presented so far.

I'm fine with lynching NeutralSrvivngBalrog, the effort they have put into the game so far is disgusting, in particular from a hydra
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 21:42 GMT
#675
[QUOTE]On April 14 2013 06:24 John Matrix wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 13 2013 16:51 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Also it again surprises me slightly that we haven't just made the guy who has the nuke claim that he has it and use it for a double lynch today? Sandroba, having previously created a plan to use nukes in that fashion, clearly should have noticed that possibility.

Double lynching is incredibly town favored. We can either do it today or tomorrow, but since our nuke-dude cannot be roleblocked but could be randomly night-killed, why not just do it today? So when the nuke deadline hits (12h before the lynch) we nuke the guy with the most votes, then we ignore him and lynch someone else.[/QUOTE]
Because the best case and fairly likely scenario is that no one gets nuked or the mafia nuke gets shot down. If we "double lynch" today don't hit mafia, it's lylo tomorrow, otherwise on day 3.



SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 21:49 GMT
#679
And we want a nuke to be shot down. It not only confirms the person who fired the anti-nuke, but to a lesser degree the person targeted by the nuke. While mafia knows this, they may still gamble that there is no anti-nuker.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 13 2013 21:51 GMT
#682
On April 14 2013 06:50 FiveTouch wrote:
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On April 14 2013 06:49 SamuelLJackson wrote:
And we want a nuke to be shot down. It not only confirms the person who fired the anti-nuke, but to a lesser degree the person targeted by the nuke. While mafia knows this, they may still gamble that there is no anti-nuker.


This seems a bit of a stretch, no?

~marv

If no one claims shooting the nuke, not at all
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 14 2013 07:46 GMT
#743
On April 14 2013 15:31 raynmaster wrote:
Why does EVERYONE not live in timezones that allows me to interact with dudes :/

Syllo and Sandro,
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 02:41 SamuelLJackson wrote:
FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me.

On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote MockArmor


Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!

the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.

It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote.

His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post.

Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?

why is this your only useful post? In over 30 hours of play, you have 1 post. This post is echoing town sentiment at that point too. Is this still current? Do you have any other reads?

You are mischaracterizing or not reading our* filter if you think that's our only useful post. Why is that?

*I (syllo) have been made every single post so far, because I'm a moron and promised to take care of the weekend. We didn't expect the game to start this quickly
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 14 2013 07:54 GMT
#746
On April 14 2013 10:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This thread looks like shit.

What the fuck is that giant summary post doing in my town? Goddamn I could lynch him JUST for that post.

Why the fuck are Kush, GK/CC, and Mocsta shitting the thread up like it's their fucking job?

So many questions, only one lynch to sort them out.

Is this Yamato? Palmar why do you think this guy is town? Your summary post isn't helping, can you go back to making one sentence explanations
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 14 2013 08:23 GMT
#749
Actually rather explain your read on Touchey. Besides what I noted earlier, their activity has remained low and I don't like the comment about me having a 0% track record on him. It's a) not true (in chrono I was initially, but not in the end wrong about him) b) a claim mafia from my experience is more likely to make.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 14 2013 08:29 GMT
#751
Palmar
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