TL Mafia LXI - Page 73

On April 25 2013 04:48 ObviousOne wrote:
So let's kill VE or ShiaoPi today.

If you think one or both are town, tell us why.

##Vote VisceraEyes

Accio votes!

On April 25 2013 04:49 TheRavensName wrote:
The Vivax shot I don't think was a blue snipe. I found his flip to be a surprise, and from what I can see in his filter (read me trying to search for a bunch of code words that pop in my head, and taking a look through his first dozen posts for any of the usual hidden code tricks.) he doesn't seem to breadcrumb (Or at least none that I can see but then they are probably pretty good breadcrumbs .)

That is not to say shooting him doesn't make sense. He seems to be on everyones super confirmed town lists, its a pretty good idea as town to get those out of the way. Finding out he was a blue is just a bonus. Clarity is of course the victim of the Wine of today.

On April 25 2013 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Can you tell me why they're scum first?

There is also the possibility like I said that Vivax' mason partner was scum. That way, scum would know that he's blue.
I just can't wrap my head around a N1 Vivax kill. No offense to him, but there's plenty of scarier players in the game that can scumhunt better than him.

On April 25 2013 00:29 ObviousOne wrote:
People I want to lynch:

25) VisceraEyes - scum - not paranoid enough to be town, mostly antagonistic with players who are more likely to be lynched and more friendly to players who are considered vets or town
17) Mr. Cheesecake - scum - too much friendly playful interplay with VE, not enough information sharing, being extremely "helpful" and "pro-town" by pointing out his meta
20) ShiaoPi - scum - not seeing anything the speaks town to me, seemingly random decision to kill BM, barely contributing or trying to figure things out
11) GiygaS - scum - fuck it, why not, someone said he was so he has to be, and besides he was more concerned people spelled his name correctly than he was about making a contribution to the thread

Cedric Diggory (Masoner): Hufflepuff Seeker and Prefect, you are a skilled duelist, a natural leader, and a kind soul. With your access to the Prefect's Bathroom you can have private conversations with others where you can't be overheard. You bend the rules, just a little, for Harry Potter to help him solve the puzzle of the second task, since he helped you with the first one. You are a loyal fellow, after all. When Voldie returns to power, you are the first to fall, but at least you die a champion. Each Night, you can select a target. Until the end of the next night, you are masoned with that target. You cannot mason the same target twice.

On April 25 2013 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Can you tell me why they're scum first?

There is also the possibility like I said that Vivax' mason partner was scum. That way, scum would know that he's blue.
I just can't wrap my head around a N1 Vivax kill. No offense to him, but there's plenty of scarier players in the game that can scumhunt better than him.

On April 25 2013 05:05 Ace wrote:
@OO: VE has been coasting but "not paranoid enough to be Town" doesn't mean the guy is Scum. He could easily just not be giving a fuck.

On April 25 2013 05:02 Ace wrote:
Vivax didn't have a Mason partner. There was nothing to crumb as the rules didnt allow him to Mason up until Night 1. He was killed because he was on the right track.

On April 24 2013 23:26 ObviousOne wrote:

Ace, I have been listening to the most recent podcast and an interesting note came up regarding use of meta. D1 meta should never be used ever, according to someone on the cast, and it is often used as a crutch by scum to secure mislynches. Does this ring true to you, and if so does this change your perspective on Vivax at all?

I ask because it seems despite your apprehension to using meta this early in the game, you seem to have come around to supporting Vivax's case:

So I brought up Vivax's filter and I see he rounded out a legitimate case on Oats that leads to you coming to this conclusion.

Two points from Vivax:
- Oats says VE has good reads: he did the same exact thing in boardwalk as town with VE scum, I think there might be a Craigslist Missed Connection ad VE should be looking for. Not sure what I'm not seeing that happened before this and we can't ask Oats anymore but perhaps VE can clarify whether or not they have a history together that would explain Oats thinking he's right/town all the time.
- Oats found Palmar's post scummy, VE said Palmar would be town for that: Oats is just random as fuck. I don't think there's a more effective way to say it, but even the above point fits into this category.

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I want to ask you specifically how familiar you are with Oats' playstyle and general thread presence outside of what you've seen in this game.

Admittedly I didn't do anything whatsoever to convince town that Oats was a bad lynch, and these are thoughts in retrospect, but they are leading to this final question:

Would town VE be suspicious of Palmar for that kind of post, from your experience and from your opinion this game, or does his off-the-cuff town read of Palmar come TOO easily? I'm not getting town vibes from VE, his style here seems to be passive enough that he's confident town will tear itself apart as scum or he's simply too busy with other things that unless he is under direct threat of lynch he will be around just enough to keep above the activity level of some of the scummier lurkers. I think he's mafia, but I've been wrong every single time on my initial read of him that I'm leery of pushing it unless it makes enough sense to at least one other person.

On April 25 2013 05:13 Palmar wrote:
I need a few things cleared up to proceed.

On April 25 2013 05:13 Palmar wrote:
I need a few things cleared up to proceed.