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+ Show Spoiler +On April 12 2013 03:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax.
All that means is that NOBODY knows you are gonna nuke. Which is the case.
Launching nuke doesnt mean LANDING the nuke dude .
I know, I said what I mean in sufficient detail in one of my earlier posts. I found it odd that MZ claimed his first nuke.
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On April 12 2013 05:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: where the hell did this idea that I have a "silent nuke" come from? Have any of you ever played with an america/russia role before? You have to type ##Nuke: Player into the thread. That's like literally the most basic shit I can think of, people who keep bringing it up are trying to obfuscate the conversation.
On April 12 2013 05:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: also vivax has the weakest claim of all time.
And not a single read or useful contribution was given that day.
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Unvoted Sharrant cause OO is a better lynch if I'm the first or second.
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Don't forget to look well into Oats,BM, MZ, Mocsta, Sharrant these are likely candidates for last scum assuming all DT checks are correct.
Do your work and gl town.
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Well I don't want him to get lynched before OO that's for sure. If someone plans to switches to me and Sharrant he might hinder OO's lynch.
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On April 12 2013 09:01 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 08:54 Keirathi wrote: Also: Today is a double lynch. Who else do you want to lynch? Why?
How do you feel about Vivax? I'm not entirely sure, to be honest. It seems to me there is only one mafia left, and StrongAndBig is the person I think far and away most likely to be mafia. I'm more comfortable with a single lynch since Austin is essentially already an extra lynch. I'll give Vivax a read through right now. From what I can remember he's acted far more sane this game than when I played with him, but someone mentioned this play is similar to his play on a smurf. He also at least seems on the same page about StrongAndBig which is a point for him in my books, but if StrongAndBig isn't the last mafia then that really means nothing. The last point alone makes him townie enough for me to want to lynch him until it's proven that StrongAndBig isn't the last mafia. My initial impression is still that any lynch I see today would benefit threefold by having another day which should resolve the BM situation that has its tendrils in just about every case I can think of.
I must say that I found this part to look pretty townie though, but it's not possible to not double lynch today. I found Sharrant to look scummy during Normal Mini II (I think it was that) but he was town.
I think the problem about his play is that he looks so thought out and careful but I read this quite early post
+ Show Spoiler +On April 07 2013 06:43 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Whatever. Kill me then. I can't hunt scum while not a single person in the entire game is taking me seriously.
##Vote: RestrainingOrder Hi, Viscera. I'm pretty much null on your actions, so I want you to help me. Now, the reason I'm null on you is because I know I can't read you. Last game we played I thought I had a slam dunk case on you, and you were town. Now I might be reaching with this, but I want you to help me talk about Keirathi. See, just a short while ago there was talk about why Keirathi was scum, I think there're some really valid points in there. And I think a few others saw it too, but then suddenly the town was dragged off of this and into a spammy little brawl focused on antogonizing you and painting you as scum. Maybe you're scum, maybe you're not, but the way the thread has turned suggests to me you're not. This feels more to me like you're getting attacked the same way that caused Marvellosity to explode when he was town in a recent game. So I want you to talk to me about Keirathi, who after being called out has dissapeared after the cases on him, and I just want your opinion on Rayne because frankly I'm not quite sure how to read him. Do you think this could be mafia Keirathi's team trying to drag the town away from him after he got caught by causing a spammy mess on day 1? Do you think this is more likely town getting in an argument that is not indicative of Keirathi's alignment? And then your opinion on Keirathi himself and Rayne would be great., thank you. and it doesn't look to me like a scum interaction. But I can't offer my lynch to stop his lynch cause I would essentially be throwing away next night's check. If I could pick only to lynch OO today I would pick that I think.
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Feeling guilty mocsta?
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Lol why would you shoot OO at this point that'd be dumb.
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Yeah shoot me for the wtf-award nomination. The uncounterclaimed parity cop only one guy in the game made a case against.
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If you shoot OO it's the same as shooting me anyway.But if you're town and want to do dumb shit don't let me stop you, it will stick on you postgame.
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Did austin just claim scum?
Applause for Sharrant going down like a boss.
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Yes I'm scum who started to hardbus OO during N1, now that you didn't lynch me to expect a check it's time to shoot me
clap clap clap
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Oh, you. Conveniently leaving out my arguments.
On April 12 2013 21:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 21:51 Vivax wrote: Yes I'm scum who started to hardbus OO during N1, now that you didn't lynch me to expect a check it's time to shoot me
clap clap clap Hard bus OO means this? + Show Spoiler +On April 11 2013 10:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:53 Mocsta wrote:On April 11 2013 09:41 Vivax wrote:On April 11 2013 09:39 Mocsta wrote: o vivax thats a twist of events
austin wasnt the strongest scum.cndidate going forward.today
to release the check is protown as its meant to remove an option from discussion so we can focus better What if I fakeclaim, oh look I tried to pick cop it wasn't available sowwy I'm just a VT. Nothing going to change if I claim. Scum can lie, and it doesn't make anyone town. I'd rather show I'm town through my actions, not help scum choose their NK targets. Thats not a response to what i said. I commented that u think austin and kei and sno doing a power play. U talkjng about the claim. Im not asking u to claim. Im just saying u r the hold up. I don't leave any stone unturned. I don't have enough base to claim they're doing powerplay, but I have a base to say hat MZ and OO look really really really scummy. On April 11 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote: Mocsta let's lynch ObviousOne. That'd be real gangsta. On April 10 2013 07:32 Vivax wrote:I do agree on ObviousOne though, I noticed that he only spent time bullshitting around after posting his Artanis case. Looks to me like he only posted it to look good. Here, filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766¤tpage=73#1456He was also the 7th or 8th to vote for him, and the fact he felt the need to post such an extensive case only makes him look worse when he could have simply sheeped or pushed others to vote for him. If you shoot OO you're the next hero. On April 10 2013 11:34 Vivax wrote: I wanna lynch Sno_Man or OO. I'm starting to find Mocsta interesting.
I don't think austin is a good target for nuke, he's talkative enough and doesn't troll. On April 12 2013 01:57 Vivax wrote: Question: S & B claimed that MZ is town america, but where's the D1 nuke then?
I can currently just support a shot on OO, he's scum.
Rereading Sharrant and BM now since MZ and S & B seem to be off the hook. On April 12 2013 03:05 Vivax wrote: Mocsta is not scum he doesn't do abrasive shit as scum, go read Personality 2, he was nice and reasonable, and he didn't try to jump into your face with what he had to say.
Lynch ObviousOne. On April 12 2013 03:12 Vivax wrote: I don't care about mocsta either way. OO best lynch, he scum tryin to look good with his cases but no interest whatsoever in pursuing what he claims to believe. On April 12 2013 09:23 Vivax wrote: Well I don't want him to get lynched before OO that's for sure. If someone plans to switches to me and Sharrant he might hinder OO's lynch. Shouting OO is scum isnt a bus, I doubt ANYONE was swayed by your arguments, so cheap town cred to a lynch that already was happening.
On April 11 2013 02:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 02:00 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 11 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote: Mocsta let's lynch ObviousOne. That'd be real gangsta. What would be gangsta about it? Why do you wish to be gangsta? How will it help town win this mafia game? He expressed interest into VE when he got under pressure, promised to look into him, never did.But was fine with throwing around his other two reads. + Show Spoiler + VE: I've been aware he's in two games since I am/was on the replacement list for his other game (Noir Mini I) so I expect this game to suffer more due to the nature of Noir being instant majority. I'll review him as we approach the midpoint of day so there's hopefully something more there. Keirathi: I'm more green than null on Kei, but that's more bias based on how I perceive him as a person than a player so now that he's finished jerking off for 12 hours straight [lol take a nap, dude] should be able to identify if my bias is clouding my perception of him. RO: He's another one I will want to review before the midpoint of day. I believe I mentioned earlier his D0 was more helpful/proactive than he was all game in LX [my opinion, didn't review LX] so he's at least Null.
He started summarizing inconclusive meta points about Artanis when he got under pressure + Show Spoiler +@Gonzaw:
Artanis[XP] mafia meta highlights based on his one recorded scum game in the database: Haunted Mafia - Replaced into game at P64 - GG out P116 - Total of perhaps 8 "useful" posts over 50 pages
Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]: - Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games - Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool - Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself - Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction
I'm looking for something more recent, but Artanis tends to host games rather than play... search filter only went back to March 2012 and the database shows no scum games other than Haunted. to show up the day after as 8th to vote for him with an extensive meta case, but barely considering what had been happening in the thread, and never pushing for any lynch despite posting such a huge case (which was at a weird time cause Artanis was already dead, basically, and imo he only posted it to look good after flip.
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On April 12 2013 21:56 Mocsta wrote: Nice delurk Vivax
What has hard bussing got to do with being town or scum?
I dont recall you having any presence this game to get a wagon started; so your point is moot.
So Vivax. Caller scum or town?
Caller town. I already said that if janitor is used I'd assume every death was a townie to simplify things. They can basically only use it to discredit vigis or let jubjubs argue that 1 scum is already dead.
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I'd be a pretty bad DT to tell you my reads before the night ends.
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How sure are we that he would have died anyway even if scum shot Caller first?
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On April 12 2013 22:40 Mocsta wrote: who said BM is scum?
Im struggling to understand how that was an honest attempt to address the question at large.
Mocsta, what do you want to know exactly? You look a lot like you're just trying to throw shit, not find out what I'm thinking.
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So yamato guarantees that BM picked JV, that's good. If that means there's only one scum left the game is basically over.
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On April 13 2013 00:11 Bill Murray wrote: yeah ill kill vivax
You mean yourself. Shoot Mocsta instead.
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