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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 21 2013 22:33 GMT
#2441
Vivax why am I not on your list. you been dogging me as scum constantly. Now im not even worth a mention on your scum list???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
March 21 2013 22:36 GMT
#2442
Where did I call you scum?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 21 2013 22:38 GMT
#2443
So im a townie that needs fucking vigi shot? is that your stance on me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
March 21 2013 22:40 GMT
#2444
You're something, I don't know what. But for sure you are unimportant noise that makes this game harder to solve for townies.

In all courtesy, I hope someone takes care of you tonight.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 21 2013 22:45 GMT
#2445
ok so you got 6 people that you are saying are scum on your list there. 6 FUCKING SCUM READS. AND YOU WANT VIGI TO SHOOT A GUY THAT YOU "DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS"

YOUR GONNA EXCUSE YOUR 6 SCUM READS TO SHOOT A GUY THAT YOU HAVE NO READ ON?

RLY?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 21 2013 22:47 GMT
#2446
Well apparently I'm just retarded.
you gotta dance
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#2447
Shut up wiggles.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
March 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#2448
Coag do you like my reads?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 21 2013 23:08 GMT
#2449
remove wade fell and add wiggles and they are acceptable. I would probably add ryu and take out zerap also.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
March 21 2013 23:14 GMT
#2450
Thanks for the answer then, carry on and may you live long.

I will actually take a look at Wiggles again just to make sure, but I've been fairly confident he's town so far.
I'm also starting to doubt my scum read on cosmicomics although I find him mentioning scum KP kinda scummy.
Still think Wade is scum cause I don't think town has 2 masons and scum 0 + I feel he is pushing agenda.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 23:29 GMT
#2451
... wtf
Ace lynch are you guys 4 rela
like
really
what

i wanted to cringe when i read through the last 20 pages honestly. That just was not even fair and more importantly, easy as fuck for mafia to manipulate. Where is the justice in lynching somebody without a fair trial? are you fucking kidding me? We have numerous veterans in this game and this game is for experienced players and you guys go ahead and lynch Ace, not even there to defend himself. Honestly forget Vivax, the dude isn't as blatantly obvious as DP and Wiggles if he were scum because they literally just walked into the vote with 4 hours left and screamed LYNCH GOODKARMA/LYNCH ACE. Not only that, Wiggles wagon was about to catch fire and VE is going to be easy to kill for the next night regardless of his alignment, making it even easier for scum to manipulate our lynch. Fucking unbelievable. Ace was barely in this game too, I thought we might have learned something with that GreYMisT lynch. SERIOUSLY.
Also, VisceraEyes is a clown. BH is town, GK is town, Coagulation is town. Get off their dicks, and actually think for once.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#2452
also Mocsta called me a troll. Tell me you're not joking cause you are despicable if you're saying SHEEP ME as town.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 23:57 GMT
#2453
Hey Vivax, what is your current read on me? Am I still a "wild card", or am I scum or what. I'd also like hearing reasoning specifically-- I've noticed you've mentioned me several times on the list of scum, but since the timestamps issue has been cleared up I haven't heard why.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 23:59 GMT
#2454
Oh herp derp there you just posted it nvm
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 22 2013 00:42 GMT
#2455
On March 22 2013 08:32 Kenpachi wrote:
also Mocsta called me a troll. Tell me you're not joking cause you are despicable if you're saying SHEEP ME as town.

Go fuck yourself
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 22 2013 00:42 GMT
#2456
Bringing this back to the fore.

On March 22 2013 05:59 cosmicomics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 12:37 goodkarma wrote:
On March 21 2013 12:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Three of you just switched to Good Karma in the last twenty minutes. He only has four votes. Why can't we kill Ace again?

There's like honestly no reason...

What you just posted makes sense to me. The "not useful" meta argument I had doesn't seem to hold water, as I believe this is a solid case. While your day one was very scummy, as was some of your wishy-washy reads from today, I feel your case deserves consideration.

Unfortunately, time is short. I'm going to change my vote while I look further into this.:

##Unvote
##Vote: Ace

goodkarma acknowledges that Mr. Wiggles is very scummy, but "feels" like his case is still worth consideration. He then puts his vote on Ace while acknowledging the lack of time. Let me repeat that. He acknowledges that his super scummy read Mr. Wiggles made a case, that the case "feels" ok even though he didn't have time to read it, an proceeds to side with his super scum read Mr. Wiggles. He moves his vote before he looks further into this. And he doesn't look into it at all! This means that goodkarma, without properly reading his scum read Mr. Wiggles' case decided it was better to err on his side and vote Ace. Before reading.

How does he respond to Ace's flip?
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 02:02 goodkarma wrote:
Would it be possible for us to, like maybe, consolidate on the top two candidates like ~halfway through the day cycle so that, like maybe, we can have a more decisive vote result that can actually be analyzed? It turned into a 3-way split result... Like how in the fuck did you expect things would end well?

But goodkarma, you switched too... There were like 4+ people who couldn't be bothered to consolidate on the top two candidates of the day (VE/Mr. Wiggles), and I thought fuck it (I know, not great reasoning... feel free to hammer me but tbh exactly my thought process). What I saw in Mr. Wiggle's most recent case was what I perceived to be a blatant scumslip. We're talking about the legendary ace. Wanting to hunt who he thought to be 3P and not scum. It just didn't make sense from a town perspective, so even if he wasn't in the game that long I opted to lynch him.

But if you want a TL;DR for what to take from the ace mislynch:

We need to consolidate on two candidates, and anyone who can't be bothered to and/or brings up new candidates late in the cycle should be looked at with extra suspicion. Maybe some people here didn't know better before, but you do now. So no more excuses.

He blames town for not voting in a way where he can analyze the vote results. Where does he get off doing this? Even when he talks about the Ace mislynch, notice where the blame lies. He blames Ace for not playing the way he should have. He doesn't admit any fault of his own, he doesn't give an explanation why did a hard hard 180 on someone he called super scummy, and he doesn't even bother trying to draw conclusions about Mr. Wiggles' alignment!

He is overly concerned with how he himself is perceived rather than showing any indication of trying to figure out the game. He blames everyone else but makes sure to explain why he deserves none of the blame. He lectures town on how they should behave rather than providing any meaningful contribution / insights, even into the person who swayed him to lynch Ace. Who flipped town.

goodkarma is scum

Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 22 2013 00:44 GMT
#2457
On March 22 2013 09:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 08:32 Kenpachi wrote:
also Mocsta called me a troll. Tell me you're not joking cause you are despicable if you're saying SHEEP ME as town.

Go fuck yourself

woah, why so aggressive my lamb?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 22 2013 00:48 GMT
#2458
On March 22 2013 01:06 zarepath wrote:
Okay, so for the next bit it's going to look like I"m slinging crap at everybody unnecessarily, but I pulled out all the suspicious posts I wanted to talk about as I was catching up, so it's not all aligned into big cases yet, but I don't want these things looked over or forgotten.

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 12:04 Mocsta wrote:
##Vote: goodkarma

SHEEP ME


I noticed that right at the time when everyone is asking for consolidation, Mocsta busted out a completely different wagon.

Also notice that Mocsta has been getting a LOT of mileage out of criticizing people for jumping onto the Ace case. He was pretty critical of those on the Ace case, but not really pushing his own case that much. It's not that he had a town read on ACe; he just wanted to criticize those voting for him for some reaosn. And right after the flip, he re-quotes himself saying that.

This is absolutely wrong, and does not represent how the cycle went down.

If this is truly what you think occured then i see two options
(1) You got lazy and skimmed the thread
Or
(2) You are scum blatantly misrepresenting

How the fuck, can you say I wasnt pushing my case. This is the biggest crock of shit I have read since waking up.
I am the only person who applied critical thought when VE did his 3rd party bullshit
I am the only person who applied critical thought when the Ace cases came out
I am the only person calling out everyone for voting their fucking scum reads, targets.

This game is fucked and full of absolute retards (not the scum. they are doing a great job)
There is fuck all town putting any deep thought into anything. Everyone is going nuts off small things, e.g. the Vivax "yamato" slip... does not anyone fuckn know, Vivax loves guessing smurfS? it was never a slip. its just what we does.. FFS.. yet ppl managed to spam that shit for pages.. and then have the gall to call me a prolifer spammer.

This is meant in full sincerity.. the town environment in this game is worse than personality2.
Maybe marv was wrong on his reads.. but at least there was a fuckn leader. .this game is all sheep that log in, throw a pot shot and then fuck off.. and hide behind the rule of the game sayin :no spamming"

Dr.H offered me the opportunity for a modkill.

I have accepted.

Dont expect any night reads from me.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 00:50:31
March 22 2013 00:49 GMT
#2459
mocsta has been modkilled.
RIP Aaliyah
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 22 2013 00:55 GMT
#2460
What the hell just happened? Under what circumstances is someone "offered the opportunity" to be modkilled? I am so confused.
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