Personality Mafia 2

On March 08 2013 15:45 HiroPro wrote:
fuck.

On March 10 2013 18:06 supersoft wrote:
Ver is probably claiming a certain personality.

On March 10 2013 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
Guys, rejoice! For I am town!

In other news, corazon looks bad/dumb, VE looks like VE (...), Ver looks bad, and everything else is boring.

On February 07 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why aren't you doing shit? You can't be scared of NKs, it's like you don't give a fuck. And in my experience a Marv that doesn't give a fuck is a scum Marv ..and I hate scum. I FUCKING HATE SCUM Marv

On March 10 2013 22:25 Mocsta wrote:

Stop being stupid: you use expound all the time.

Half the thread hasn't posted, and its all talking shit.
If you want a top read so far: iamp post reads like the most bullshit to me - lists half the player list and says: "a scum must be there"... no shit sherlock

Ver; made one post and its dumb as fuck, and so what? Maybe its a forced personality post?
What more is there to make of it then that?

Sounds to me like you know something I don't, or something? Expound.

Sounds to me like you know something I don't, or something? Expound.

On March 10 2013 22:56 Mocsta wrote:

If you haven't noticed. I am writing completely different. (- normally much more verbose)

I am not matching the personality meta completely, but its quite a mind-set change for me.


Whose your scummiest guy so far. Considering vote is on me, lets change to; whose your 2nd scummiest guy?

On March 10 2013 23:04 Acrofales wrote:

Only scum or Drazerk ever tries to pull this stunt.

##vote Ver

On March 10 2013 23:07 supersoft wrote:


I was actually aiming at his list and his statement that there is "a" mafia in that list.
I don't like these statements very much. When I am scum, I am trying to obscure these numbers.
Lynching because of balancing reasons is a pretty successful town-strategy. If you manage to fool the town on the number of vets in the scumteam, you can turn the balancing-reasoning against the town.

On March 10 2013 23:13 supersoft wrote:


I already said, that i agree with the rest of his post. Therefor he's still 0 rather town to me...

On March 10 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:
I think it's better if we keep our roles to ourselves for the moment, just for the fun component but yeah marv looks pretty much like ve right now.
I think that everyone who is contributing should have lower priority than those who are not posting but anyway only until we got everyone to post so we can be sure that we're looking for the mafia when they actually posted already
marv, ve what dou you think of my idea?

Also im still posting from tablet which is pretty annoying so i will be able to play properly in about 6 hours when im back home.

On March 10 2013 23:51 Acrofales wrote:

That's stupid. Ver dropped in to tell us he hasn't read his role pm. Now you can believe him, in which case he is probably worth keeping around. However the chance is bigger that he is NOT rping Drazerk and HAS read his pm. Now that means he is lying and giving himself an excuse to act any way he chooses.

Who needs excuses like that? Scum. I was looking forward to playing with Ver, but if he's scum, we should kill him.

On March 10 2013 23:55 Vivax wrote:


Well yeah i think personality claiming doesn't matter at all it's just for fun except for the powers and we should probably just play like we're supposed to and focus on getting everyone to post. I think that putting the thought out there that people can't just lurk is a good start for that and anyway, waiting for people to post is pretty much normal during day 1 :p

On March 11 2013 01:01 Acrofales wrote:

This is 100% a Chezinu claim. Points 2 and 3 are mutually exclusive

On March 11 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
I'm pretty much with risk on this one. I have no idea what Acro thinks he's doing with this Ver stuff. Ver pretty explicitly said he wouldn't have much time for the game until Monday as well. And yet Acro actually has his vote on him; he wants to kill potentially one of town's strongest assets. I can't really tell if this makes Acro mafia or just very silly.

On March 11 2013 01:21 prplhz wrote:
I have a one shot ability to become immune to the lynch next day at the expense of my own vote. Any votes on me, and by me, will simply not count.

On March 11 2013 01:28 Acrofales wrote:

In a game where your role is another mafia player, acting like one in particular is a claim in my book.

On March 11 2013 01:28 yamato77 wrote:
So Marv, out of Kurumi/Bugs, which one do you feel is more likely to be mafia, if either?

On March 11 2013 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
bugs is more likely, but that's not saying much at this stage.

On March 11 2013 01:32 yamato77 wrote:
My question wasn't stupid.

I feel like one of them is probably mafia, given the nature of their posting. One is almost assuredly hiding with the other in the "Chezinu" category of unreadable players.

It's a valid mafia strategy if we, as town, allow it.

On March 11 2013 01:36 yamato77 wrote:

I never said both can't be mafia.

But right now, we can only pick one to lynch, and I want it to be the one we're more confident with.

On March 11 2013 01:50 prplhz wrote:

sigh

There's a reason none of the good players really reacted at all, use your brain and you might realize it too.

On March 11 2013 02:40 risk.nuke wrote:

What? Do you need glasses.
his low post-count wasn't the argument. And that he never brought it up again would only make it scummier however he might have just not gotten around to comment further on it.

On March 11 2013 10:52 austinmcc wrote:


Hello everyone! I think you should vote austinmcc for Mayor. Or any other elected office. But mainly mayor.

As mayor, I'll aim to keep a healthy thread environment. We have a lot of heavily-themed roles it seems, and a couple posting restrictions or flavor-lovers. Limericks and rats are nice, but there are a lot of other things that get lost when there is too much creativity and not enough scumhunting. So please be judicious with your silly posts.

But the real benefit to electing me mayor is that I will lynch scum. For now, that means lynching slOosh or crossfire. I like those better than oats, although I agree that oats doesn't look very green here. But iirc I'm not particularly good at putting oats's actions together with his alignment.

slOosh is a good townie, and generally active. scumslOosh is inactive. slOosh this game is...

But the stronger lynch today is crossfire. I like the idea that some scum will attempt to hide within personalities, allowing them to play the game from a less-than-town angle and pass it off as part of the game. crossfire has done just that. He has talked his nonsense, and I enjoyed reading his posts. But the posts contain little/nothing. bugs's post had some logic in them. Others are roleplaying within the context of scumhunting. crossfire is just posting nonsense. At best he called hiro out for voting for "non-alignment reasons," but he hasn't called out any other bad votes and he didn't go anywhere with hiro. Call out his vote, blink away.

On March 11 2013 11:12 austinmcc wrote:
snb, three things

what are those BHs in the Foolishness pic holding?

wbg's posts may ramble, but they rambled while making townie points (at times). Read his post about how rats work. It's not the most insightful thing ever, but it gave me a strong townie vibe on him, because he was still playing mafia while filling the thread with nonsense (unlike crossfire).

oats does look bad. I like the point on reads more than the point on not following his own advice, especially within a game where everyone is playing as someone else. For starts, you look at the iamperfection/mocsta pushes from oats, but you miss this:Oats still pushing iamp, before you post, in response to iamp finding hiro scummy based on hiro's wanting claims. Specifically, iamp made a case, and oats immediately jumps all over iamp. I dislike that, because he's not actually seeking discussion on those questions, he starts off with the all caps LYNCH IAMP, which makes it feel like the questions don't matter. He just wants to lynch iamp, for...making a case and scumhunting.

There's also his posts on ver. Check these out:Ver's entrance is "unimpressive" and he has no posts after. Reads like Oats finds this scummy
But now acro finds Ver scummy for the same post, and Oats thinks it's a horrible reason for a vote.
Acro responds, and Oats downplays Ver's post. Ver has a whopping one post. And yet Oats still manages to have 3 different thoughts about it. Weird interaction, and weirdly inconsistent.

Ver's entrance is "unimpressive" and he has no posts after.

But now acro finds Ver scummy for the same post, and Oats thinks it's a horrible reason for a vote.

Or he was kidding, and roleplaying.

Its one fucking post. Is he really the scummiest person so far?

On March 11 2013 12:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This just in, Oats softclaimed scum.

On March 10 2013 16:55 HiroPro wrote:
btw I think everyone should just say who they are. since there apparently aren't any risks to doing so and I don't fancy having to determine whether or not people are acting fake because of their personality or because they're mafia.

On March 11 2013 03:01 HiroPro wrote:
yo, unless one of them admits they were lying right now, we should be lynching between kurumi and bugs today. both of them have claimed chezinu - bugs's anagram is a an anagram for brown brotherhood.

at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker.

##Vote Kurumi

also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much.

On March 11 2013 08:52 HiroPro wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Stutters695

Forget about kurumi. if he's confirmed town then there is no point in talking about him.

lynch the commentator. his filter is short so i will not bother even quoting. all he can do is ask meaningless questions and complain about how people treat him. he has no opinions on anything of value.

On March 11 2013 11:18 HiroPro wrote:


man what does this even mean. you thought kurumi was suspicious also right? so why does kurumi flipping a bastard town role make you more suspicious of bugs?

On March 11 2013 12:41 Promethelax wrote:
bugs call K-room a scum
but when he is killed and confirmed a-1
bugs disappears
he says nothing here
his mislynch has been undone

when I show my cat a playerlist
it is at bugs which she begins to hiss
her reads are astute
my kitty is cute
she says that bugs is a bish

WBG has hidden in his role
he pretends to search for the mole
but when his chosen townie is shot
his contributions are less than not
now WBG's sharp wit has gone null

On March 11 2013 13:04 slOosh wrote:
u kids so bad

a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi
b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi
c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him
d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town

srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are.

##Vote: yamato

On March 11 2013 13:16 slOosh wrote:

cuz he can shoot him, and people like you let him get away with it

why would town use super mod check on kurumi of all people? less posting more sheeping me

SHEEP SLOOSH

A CHANGE YOU CAN SHEEP IN

MAYBE WE COULD

SHEPE

On March 11 2013 13:18 Stutters695 wrote:

Hiro is not the traitor we seek today. More than this I can't really say.

On March 11 2013 22:35 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, that sounds fine. Your filter is full of suspicion so I'm gonna call you town at the moment. Partly because I'm fucking desperate for town-reads this game.

On March 11 2013 22:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's got a lot of 'null' reads. Duh.

On March 11 2013 22:51 iamperfection wrote:

considering you haven't said much of anything maybe you should elaborate

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Can anyone honestly say that it looks like stutters is scum hunting? He is Not This is a great lynch and should be getting a whole lot more attention then it currently is. What are you guys going to do when im dead when i will be unable to point these obvious things out to you since i will be a prime night target.

On March 11 2013 23:08 iamperfection wrote:

Why do you have so poor critical thinking skills?

If you want to make a case maybe you should go for it instead of just floundering around not doing anything. If you read my posts you would probably see why my posting could be somewhat different to someone that spams one liners and is extremely aggressive.

On March 11 2013 23:46 cDgCorazon wrote:


I have to go but I can't say much so:

Hiro is the same when it comes to going after easy targets
Hiro has not given much advice so I can't say anything about #2

However, their play is slightly similar. A big lack of thread presence and a lack of scum hunting.

Hiro would be someone else I would be ok with lynching after Yamato.

(That brings the list of people to Oats, Hiro, and Acro-who hasn't contributed much besides overreacting to everything).

On March 12 2013 01:16 austinmcc wrote:

You seem to be applying for a position on my Panel. However, I am not convinced that you are a loyal constituent.

Whereas other constituents have analyzed specific posts, specific lines, here is what you have done:

Quite the case, quite the analysis. You have made a couple D1 cases. You have accused a bunch of other people of not scumhunting, or doing this or that little thing. However, despite bouncing your vote around all over the place, you have it resting on a guy that you aren't saying much about. I think I like that you are attempting to sling mud at every possible person who could oppose me for mayor, but yet...there seems to be no method to your slinging.

On March 12 2013 01:24 austinmcc wrote:
Don't read that as "you haven't made a case." Read it as "there ARE posts, even if you say wbg has done nothing." Yet you haven't looked at them at all.

I will continue to find people scummy who just disregard cryptic posts as useless. There are, at the very least, some thoughts in wbg's posts. See marv 's post above. See my post in response to snb yesterday, bugs had a somewhat neat post on how scum would be looking for targets, and why kurumi fit that bill.

wbg looks scummy. I don't know how scum wbg responds to pressure, and if this is how he does so, then he should hang. But you are flinging mud everywhere, either to try and be useful OR to try and be active/point to your suspicions later when we lynch scum. Your mud has no weight behind it though. It is very thin, mostly water. It's pretty clear from other posts that you can read wbg's posts and get something out of them, his filter isn't entirely devoid of content.

On March 12 2013 15:37 Mocsta wrote:

Why does Vivax = scum => Foolishness MUST = scum?

On March 12 2013 16:05 Mocsta wrote:

hmm.. well you can only have one lynch a cycle.

With the information currently, do you prefer foolishness or vivax?

On March 12 2013 16:13 Foolishness wrote:

I was gone and made an accusation based on what I skimmed through the thread at the time. Then when I came back to push the case further I realized I was wrong when I analyzed him. Which should be obvious given that I gave the proof.

On March 12 2013 18:33 Promethelax wrote:





so you are sure Viv is scum
why then attack the other bum?
Votes were almost tied
it was six to five
but your vote was on Bugs the dumb.

On March 12 2013 19:32 Vivax wrote:
If anything it can't be explained how marv and Hiro were so sure that the announcement made Kurumi confirmed town. They couldn't know where it came from, but they could know that Kurumi was indeed town.

On March 12 2013 22:13 Acrofales wrote:
Read back up to page 25, this time taking notes. Will be catching up today and you'll have all my thoughts by the end of the day.

For now I can say that Vivax entered the thread in an extremely wishy washy manner. Seemed like he wanted to lynch lurkers, but was afraid of saying so. This seems completely out of wack with his town meta, where he ALWAYS says whatever he wants.

Supersoft also tried his hardest to not step on anybody's toes. He "agreed" with Iamp's post, but when questioned about it, disagreed with calling VE scum. Effectively that means he disagreed with Iamp's post.

Also, a little bit about the lynch: if Vivax is scum, then there is almost guaranteed to be scum who refused to leave the WBG wagon. If he's town, then it's completely up in the air where scum ended up. Given what I think of Vivax's entry into the thread, I like the Vivax=scum theory. I will pay special attention to this list: Oatsmaster, Mocsta, austinmcc, iamperfection and prplhz.

Heading to the office. Will continue reading and analysing there.

On March 12 2013 22:21 Vivax wrote:


Oh it's cool you know I'm town

On March 12 2013 22:27 Vivax wrote:


You scumslipped you don't have me as town in your reads.


Shoot Oats or lynch him tomorrow

On March 12 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:


Well let's put the scumslip aside for now then and affront your argument: I think Foolishness is town and your argument is not going to change anything about it, if you think I'm scum then why are you trying to dissuade me from saying Foolishness is town?

On March 12 2013 23:10 Vivax wrote:
There is another option I didn't think through and it's that I read crossfire as slight town early, Foolishness repeatedly said that he didn't analyse him yet as he did me and yamato so if crossfire is scum then it would kinda make sense for scum Foolish to want to keep me around since if crossfire flips then I'd be a logical next step.

On the other hand after I flip town cause of that Foolish would look better for defending me early.

So yeah maybe I'm a bit too fast on the Foolish read but I found his defense of me townie since I would have been a good mislynch candidate as well, if he kept pushing me together with marv and VE he could have gotten me killed but he didn't.

I'll stick with town though cause there are scummier people than Foolish and losing him as town early is too big of a risk, if he's scum we will find out later anyway he's not the guy who can allow himself to make too many mistakes as town without being at danger of lynch.

On March 12 2013 23:19 austinmcc wrote:
marv, let's argue.

It seems like every time you think someone who is well-respected for scumhunting is out to get you, you decide they're scum. I decide you're being an idiot and overreacting. Then palmar flips scum in ... Rock Band? And Foolishness flips scum in Parallel.

So, you've got the track record here. Do you actually think this is a strategy that would be continued? I don't see why, especially as it didn't work well for Foolishness before, he would do the same thing 2 months later.

On March 13 2013 01:57 marvellosity wrote:


Acro your best point you hid in the spoiler!

This from a player who I distinctly recall saying all meta cases are terrible in Duel mafia

I'd completely forgotten this. Witness:



This game, witness (spoilered for length)

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 13 2013 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats what are your thoughts on the hyperveterans? I'm referring here to BC, Ver and Foolishness. Just your objective, gut response is all I'm after here, I'm not asking you to reread them and give me full reads.

On March 13 2013 02:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you make of the fact that Ver is claiming he hasn't read his role PM? And how does this affect your assessment that "he'd give more of a fuck"?

On March 12 2013 09:40 Foolishness wrote:
I'm sold.

##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Yamato77

On March 12 2013 09:44 Foolishness wrote:

Actually, yamato makes a lot of sense. He's more trolly and abrasive when he's mafia. When I say that, I mean he's direct about his insults: "you're an asshat", etc. Refer to Fruity Mini Mafia to see this in action (when he's mafia). In Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia, he was town, and while his posting rate was the same, he wasn't as abrasive and didn't swear as much. More importantly, in that game he was actually helpful and contributing.

On March 12 2013 18:20 Foolishness wrote:
Mafia don't need to create multiple wagons if none of them are under pressure. From what I see bugs was always top candidate and not many people were hard against his lynch. I don't really think there's much to gather from the lynch. If there were last minute swings and people sheeping on bandwagons sure, but meh from yesterday's lynch.

I still 100% support a yamato lynch. I am also on board a crossfire lynch. I was skeptical of him at first, but after seeing his reactions right before and after the lynch I will gladly kill him (I haven't thoroughly analyzed him like I have yamato or Vivax though).

On March 13 2013 02:24 Acrofales wrote:

How the hell do you have a meta town read on Ver. Like... HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THAT HAPPEN?

SOO MUCH STUPID IN THIS GAME!!!

On March 13 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:


Tell me the time intervals he should have between his posts for you to be considered pushing.

Oats please don't be town, please.

On March 13 2013 02:35 Acrofales wrote:

Go and explain that same for town. Go on, do it. While Ver is known as a "sit back and analyse" scumhunter, he is fucking good at it and nails scum left right and center. Where has he done that this game?

He also pushes his reads. Where has he done that this game?

Anyway, my first post read of Ver still stands. Ver is scum because he is trying to dodge any responsibility. He has not done any of the fabled scumhunting he is so famed for. How the fuck can you have a town read on him?

If you think inactivity is a town tell you are too stupid to talk to. Did you not JUST get done playing Duel mafia with Keirathi the inactive? And CT with Sandroba the inactive? And for that matter, Parallel Universe with Foolishness the inactive?

On March 13 2013 13:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
You can sit here and mislynch me all you want. My death will only confirm Yamato and Mocsta being scum.

On March 13 2013 13:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato's defense "Your argument is invalid because I'm town"
Mocsta's attack "You are scum because you attacked Yamato"

Sure Moc has said more but when you read between the lines that's all I see.

On March 13 2013 19:00 DrParnassus wrote:


I guess this means foolishness is town.
Damn.

On March 13 2013 23:34 iamperfection wrote:

what happened to that big scary pressure oats?

On March 14 2013 00:56 Vivax wrote:
First you gotta wait for the flip, that's why.

On March 14 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
this all feels like a setup.

On March 14 2013 03:44 slOosh wrote:

I still think there is a wealth of information in how people respond to my claim. But I think you are smart enough to figure out how they might work.

On March 14 2013 13:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
If you guys want to sit here and lynch me, so be it. I'll take my hands off the wheel if it's so obvious I'm scum.

I've defended myself over and over and if you all can't see that, then there's no use trying to fight you all.

On March 14 2013 18:59 supersoft wrote:
Ah whatever, I fold.
Really this town is just too FUCKING dumb

WHY DONT YOU FUCKING FOLLOW MY COMMANDS??? ITS 17 HOURS TO THE LYNCH!

I NEED YOU RETARDS TO FOLLOW ME TO PRESSURE RESULTS!
ARGH

WHY IS NOONE GETTING IT

On March 14 2013 19:23 DrParnassus wrote:

So you are syllo? Or?


If you insist on pushing yamato, you basically waste the day.
It comes down to yamato's shot and his oddly useless behavior right? Or is there something else in there?

Who else do you think is scum that COULD get lynched today. Marv is not getting lynched today.

On March 14 2013 21:32 Vivax wrote:
Forgot to add Dandel to the possible scum.

Oats is likely just bad townie.

On March 14 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:


Lol if im bad townie what are you?

Dandel I really like your analyzation of the cross thing. And it does seem somewhat petty for foolishness to think that Cross is scum cause of nuke. Non-withstanding his nuke on yamato in the first place.

Supersoft, the only thing going for foolish is his long post right? And the fact that he tries to kill marv. You dont seem to have done much with your 100% townie IMO other than calling, FOOLISHNESS TOWN DONT LYCNH. And here you think you are a good player.

On March 14 2013 21:53 Vivax wrote:


You can bank on bad towns for playing like this, same as in our last game where you were mafia and I wanted to policy lynch you D1.

Too bad you actually suck, but luckily for you your opponents suck even more.

Anyway I'll go watch some paralympics from the last years.

On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?

On March 15 2013 00:26 yamato77 wrote:

I've skipped a good 30 pages at times and I've missed very little important stuff.

On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote:

I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot.

It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point.

On March 15 2013 00:53 marvellosity wrote:


if you actually read my post, it should be pretty clear already that Foolishness isn't town

On March 15 2013 00:57 marvellosity wrote:


You know I like you a lot, so in the nicest way possible - I'm much more likely to be right than you, and you know that.

On March 15 2013 01:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Why is Oats calling Foolishness Town whilst continuing to have his vote parked on foolishness?

On March 15 2013 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So vivax. Why are you answering questions for oats? Oats are you calling yamato scum?

On March 15 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats what is your case on Yamato? Why did you try and imply that Yamato was scum without actually saying it? Why did your town read on Yamato from earlier change? Why have you ignored every question I have asked you?

On March 15 2013 01:23 DarthPunk wrote:


Hmm. I don't think I have read or could read anything that would rationalise a vote on someone you have called town a few times now.

But forgive me. I replaced in 2 hours ago and have not yet managed to read every post in this thread. That is obviously my fault so I will try and do better.

You don't have a 'case'. You didn't even IMPLY having a case (although in my opinion that is implied when calling for a lynch) but you believe that yamato is scum correct? You surely must to propose him as a lynch target. If that is the case then you must have a reason for thinking he is scum. What is the reason?

Why did you try to imply Yamato was scum without saying so when he stated he skimmed the thread?

On March 15 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote:


I don't know if it is just me but I don't understand the last part. Also if you could direct me to the reason behind your call to vote Yamato I would appreciate it.

On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?

Like, YAMATO!!!!

On March 15 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:


Please explain your flippyfloppy Oats, I don't like it much. You've gone scum-town-scum with no reason whatsoever.

On March 15 2013 01:38 DarthPunk wrote:


why is Yamato scum?

On March 15 2013 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Oats if Foolish speaks the truth about being unlynchable then scum doesn't care if it's no-lynch today but town will still be in the dark after this day without having accomplished anything.

On the other hand they will have some more people to kill off tonight. Hint: Marv not dying + he has the excuse for it since Dandel keeps saying he will protect him.

If I can give you a hint for posting: Don't fall victim to get yourself dragged too much into conversations (It's ok at times). Do your own thing, don't get pulled into longish conversations about single posts like marv and darth try to get you into.

Go dive some filters, look at important moments during the game (lynch, nuke firing, night hits and their targets).

I often ask quick series of questions too (when I shouldn't) , it's normal at times but there are a lot of people in this game who only lurk in the last page of the game and don't pull out stuff from earlier pages. Those are people like marv and Dandel.

There have been a few times where the game has been properly readable cause people stick to writing long posts. Austin hardly ever spams, he's a fine poster.
This as future guideline if you have comments a la "Oh well you did that too in this and this game" then keep them to yourself we look forward here when it comes to pushing useful play.

On March 15 2013 01:48 supersoft wrote:
on the road: Part 1 reads:

yamato, acro, oats
are town.

this is my final stance on them.
i am curious though, why vivax wents for acro after i called his filter interesting; because i didnt call it interesting because of scummieness. acro actually has some useful contributions, that convinced me that yamato must be town.
acro himself is town, because he was flying successfully under every radar with useless play and shaped up immensly without any pressure.

my read on oats bases on page 0-130. his latest flipflopping however only shows his interest in lynching properly.
therefor it's still accurate!

On March 15 2013 13:33 Foolishness wrote:
As a final note, you are more abrasive when you're mafia than town, those filters I linked are proof of that. It's probably worth it for me to die so you guys can be convinced that what I'm saying is true at this point, cause I have no motivation for this anymore.

Yawn. Game too difficult.

On March 15 2013 14:41 yamato77 wrote:
...

Is scum really that easy to pick apart?

Ugh. Sloosh/Foolish/Vivax/X.

The rest of my time this game is devoted to finding X.

On March 15 2013 22:09 marvellosity wrote:


Bear in mind as well, supersoft had Foolish down as confirmed mafia. Wouldn't talk to him about that either.

On March 15 2013 22:23 Vivax wrote:
I do. I'm just not easily influenced by others just cause of what I think of them and prefer pushing my own thoughts.
My whole personality as town is basically anti-sheep except for rare occasions (I like the prospect of being right when everyone else was wrong lol)
So I think you mentioning me not getting influenced by supersoft isn't a good reason to claim I'm scum.

As for my reads, I am too afraid as scum to end up on the wrong wagon/side usually. They were wrong mostly cause I started from the scum yamato town Foolish premise (I still can't believe yamato could be town tbh) and then made connections from that point on.

However don't let me stop you rallying people for my lynch.

On March 16 2013 00:09 austinmcc wrote:

^

The nightpost DID say there would be an announcement...so I guess this is it?

I'm less worried about messing up one of the posts than this being some kind of broadcaster or whatever a "magic marker" does. Coloring people's names in wrong?

On March 16 2013 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
LOLOL WHAT.

Anyway makes foolishness scum more than ever.

On March 14 2013 01:13 kitaman27 wrote:
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On March 16 2013 00:18 austinmcc wrote:
Oats, I like to speculate so much because it's all part of the puzzle. I like the puzzle aspect of the game.

Based on your filter, and what people are saying, you're off the hook. It's not cause you don't make big paragraphs. It's because, often, I don't follow your leaps and suspicions. If I can't follow them, I tend to assume they're fabricated and you're scum just trying to be active/have a bunch of scumreads for mislynch targets.

My MAIN reason to think you're scum this game, as of now, is the prplhz vote steal. You fit that bill best imo. That's an important thing, that people need to not forget, but it's not the main issue for now. Bigger things afoot.

On March 16 2013 00:25 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Exactly cause it makes you look less bad.
And WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM.

We don't talk about this derp ability. We talk about reads now. Marv got a townie lynched, Foolishness defended him. Take your pick.

On March 16 2013 00:59 Vivax wrote:


I'll trust both hosts telling me it's a fact. If they trolled me I don't know, but that's the choice I make.

Did the hosts comment on the flip in personality? I don't think so cause it wasn't delayed as far as I grasp.

And if the hosts comment on it here it's reason enough to believe it. Else they would just drop the announcement and not comment on it.

On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.

On March 16 2013 03:21 slOosh wrote:

Scaling back to 12 hours is a sensible and possible nerf. Hinting that it may be false while the OP remains true and the hosts both confirming multiple times it is true is not a sensible nerf.

On March 16 2013 10:42 DarthPunk wrote:


Waste time? I read from page 150 or so onwards as I was reading through the thread so I could at least be involved somewhat in current discussions. I don't think anyone would have preferred it if I had replaced in only to disappear for several days reading the thread. And as for saying I hadn't read the thread. Several people were answering with some variant of 'read the thread' to simple questions. So I politely informed everyone that I just replaced in and that this thread is enormous. So I won't be caught up for a long time. This quite frankly should have been common sense and yet I had to state several times that I had in fact NOT read the thread because apparently common sense is difficult.

Ironically. If YOU had read the thread or even my paltry 2 page filter you would know the answer to the second question.

But because I am nice I will not tell you to "read" and in fact answer your question politely.

Yes I think foolishness is probably scum because I think marv is town and I KNOW marv is a better player than me so Sheepy sheepy sheep sheep.

As for the check. It is incredibly unreliable as he had to announce it before hand which you and everyone should know already so I am guessing that question is some sort of test as to whether I, in fact, possess the common knowledge of everyone else?

On March 16 2013 10:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Waste time? I read from page 150 or so onwards as I was reading through the thread so I could at least be involved somewhat in current discussions. I don't think anyone would have preferred it if I had replaced in only to disappear for several days reading the thread. And as for saying I hadn't read the thread. Several people were answering with some variant of 'read the thread' to simple questions. So I politely informed everyone that I just replaced in and that this thread is enormous. So I won't be caught up for a long time. This quite frankly should have been common sense and yet I had to state several times that I had in fact NOT read the thread because apparently common sense is difficult.

On March 15 2013 01:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal?

On March 15 2013 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah. I could read your filter but it would have to get behind 120 pages of thread I still need to read and several more filters before I get to yours I am afraid.

But fair enough I guess.

On March 15 2013 11:14 DarthPunk wrote:


Regardless of the timing, It is true.

As for not pushing anything, well I have only read 52 pages of a 160+ plus game I am not nearly up to speed. There is an almost certain lynch on foolishness that I am pretty much sheeping marv on while I catch up so I don't see the value in pushing anything whilst I am as ill informed as I am currently and certainly don't feel the need to do so just to keep up appearances.

That said if something so basic as the fact that scum don't generally try to kill themselves when, in fact, killing themselves is an antithesis to their very purpose in the game comes along; I don't feel the need to not state my agreement with it simply because the circumstances of my arrival have prevented me from contributing much prior to that

On March 15 2013 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:


I think yamato is town.

I think marv is probably town and I am sheeping marv while I catch up.

On March 15 2013 11:19 DarthPunk wrote:


Yep it's really difficult. No offense to everyone who wants me to 'read' or 'push a case' For me Bugs has not even been lynched yet so give me a break. K thanks.

On March 15 2013 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:


Yes, but Marv, and this is important, your filter is already 30+ pages. And I had to READ that marv. and i'll have to RE-READ it.

On March 16 2013 17:08 Mocsta wrote:
Im not going to WIFOM into whether Stutters was bullshitting with the Sleeper Cell; but I cant even being to believe how we get to 5KP without 3 from Mafia.

5 mafia exist full stop as per the OP; and we need to move and close this matter.

(i) There is no stance/reference on the sleeper cell. I cant see scum making a story up like that just to feign a NK as a vig hit. Especially someone as thread non-existent as Stutters

Im not sure what you are actually saying here? Do you think Stutters is scum, fake-claiming a sleeper cell; or town, honest-claiming a sleeper cell?

My issue with Yamato stems beyond the foolishness push. Its as I wrote. I had one reason for why yamato was town. Fact is.. hes not playing the game like he is known for as town. Look at his last post; setting himself up not to bother contributing for half a day, when we at a pivotal point in the game. Why is it, guys like you and me you coming in here asking questions, and hes trying to fuck off? The whole sitaution reminds me of Vivax fake-claiming vig in Mafia LX. So many town refused to vote him based on that action; until I proved the NK logically didnt support a vig claim.

On March 16 2013 18:53 Mocsta wrote:

If you didnt notice, my key target is Vivax.

I am saying Yamato needs scrutiny and so does DP.

(1) My focus is Vivax.. what have you say about that?

(2) In regards to what you said with Yam.. Im saying you vehemently defending yam, and not even bothering to provide a counter for against the solid points already raised. This is remidning me of Corazon.. so many never botehred to refute my points or marvs or anyone else hunting corazon.. saying what you just said... yet now.. *YOU* are the one who is adamant corazon is scum.

On March 16 2013 20:47 risk.nuke wrote:
btw. I'm on the train and I have one hour of free internet.

We had 2 fake roleclaims from marv with this (Cop and medic)