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On March 17 2013 20:24 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 20:20 Oatsmaster wrote: So he is scum because he forgot to tell everyone he is roleblocked?
Anyway can you check out sloosh's filter and see what you think, since you werent here day 1/2?
NO that is a dramatic and intentional simplification and straight out dismissal of what I wrote. It seems that you have an agenda and do not posses an open mind or the ability to objectively weigh the marv case.
Yes I dont have an open mind. (scummy right)
Yes I simplified that, my mind was on whether you/sloosh were scum.
Its not that I disagree with you, but think about it, marv was so set on the idea that foolishness was scum, that all his reads were based around that. Now that the tower has crumbled, marv is left with the bill. What is he gonna do? Instantly think of someone else to lynch?
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On March 17 2013 20:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 20:24 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 20:20 Oatsmaster wrote: So he is scum because he forgot to tell everyone he is roleblocked?
Anyway can you check out sloosh's filter and see what you think, since you werent here day 1/2?
NO that is a dramatic and intentional simplification and straight out dismissal of what I wrote. It seems that you have an agenda and do not posses an open mind or the ability to objectively weigh the marv case. Yes I dont have an open mind. (scummy right) Yes I simplified that, my mind was on whether you/sloosh were scum. Its not that I disagree with you, but think about it, marv was so set on the idea that foolishness was scum, that all his reads were based around that. Now that the tower has crumbled, marv is left with the bill. What is he gonna do? Instantly think of someone else to lynch?
He thinks I am scum and is doing nothing about it. That is so scummy and you KNOW it is scummy. He successfully crapped up the thread with foolishness and brought all of day two to ahead with the vote having to be Foolishness or himself. Everyone had to sheep marv or foolishness and when anyone tried to discuss anything OTHER than foolishness he promptly brought it back to him again. This situation was entirely manufactured by marv. we had very little other discussion day two because of marv, and what little there was was shat all over by the foolishness debate.
Now at mylo I am his number one scum read with a weak as shit case backing up an even weaker vote and he is doing nothing to elevate us out of the hole he dug for us.
Now tell me why on earth town marv could not only be wrong multiple times but then shit up the thread and be useless DESPITE his 30+ page filter?
I admire marv's play to much to buy any of his play this game to be honest and other people like yamato see that too.
But keep going Oats, and when marv flips scum we will lynch you afterwards.
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Come on dont be like sloosh.
READ SLOOSH'S FILTER PLEASE! Thanks
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On March 17 2013 16:58 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 16:54 Moology wrote:On March 17 2013 16:38 yamato77 wrote: Good to know you're mafia. Once again back to the useless comments. yam, your terrible at this game. THe quicker you admit that to yourself, the quicker you can become useful. Theres a reason marv didnt bother commenting at your case; its because its shit, and is not worthy of a retort. Lol, whatever. See you after this game when marv is found out red.
what will you do for me when I'm town?
just as a fun, theoretical question. i want to prepare.
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slOosh/DP/Crossfire/Vivax in some order of likelihood
I'm going to take a leap of faith and call Acro town. He is the best player by far left in this game, bar a collapsing marvellosity.
Players like austin are pretty awful and can't get a read right to save their life. austin only thinks i'm mafia when i'm town, and thinks i'm town when i'm mafia, apparently. His only comment is "mafia tricksy this game". Pathetic. He obviously has a complete inability to even understand basic meta arguments. yamato is eager and probably town, he just still has no idea apparently what makes someone town or someone mafia; certainly running commentaries don't make anyone anything.
If Acro is dead certain about Crossfire ahead of DP, then I'll go for that, although I'd still hang DP first.
##Unvote ##Vote: Crossfire
I am a watcher and I will watch Acrofales tonight.
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P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far.
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On March 17 2013 21:05 marvellosity wrote: slOosh/DP/Crossfire/Vivax in some order of likelihood
I'm going to take a leap of faith and call Acro town. He is the best player by far left in this game, bar a collapsing marvellosity.
Players like austin are pretty awful and can't get a read right to save their life. austin only thinks i'm mafia when i'm town, and thinks i'm town when i'm mafia, apparently. His only comment is "mafia tricksy this game". Pathetic. He obviously has a complete inability to even understand basic meta arguments. yamato is eager and probably town, he just still has no idea apparently what makes someone town or someone mafia; certainly running commentaries don't make anyone anything.
If Acro is dead certain about Crossfire ahead of DP, then I'll go for that, although I'd still hang DP first.
##Unvote ##Vote: Crossfire
I am a watcher and I will watch Acrofales tonight.
The chance of you being roleblocked/killed is between 0.999 and 1, I think..
Also Vivax has suddenly shut up, same with sloosh, same with Crossfire.
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On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far.
You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two.
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Can we shut the fuck up about Cora, it doesnt make a difference.
DP, why havent you read sloosh's filter yet?
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by the way, mafia are probably all-inning on me today
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On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two.
Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2?
What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole?
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On March 17 2013 21:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two. Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2? What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole?
You forced the issue, we both know it. You pushed so hard and screamed so loudly that we either had to for vote you or foolishness and everything else got crushed under the weight of all that noise.
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On March 17 2013 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two. Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2? What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole? You forced the issue, we both know it. You pushed so hard and screamed so loudly that we either had to for vote you or foolishness and everything else got crushed under the weight of all that noise.
Everyone came down on my side
supersoft the confirmed town who isn't weak and caves to noone came down on my side after rereading both our filters
don't try and bullshit and say "it counts for 2". that's just you inflating things for absolutely no reason. Pretty scummy I would say.
I got Foolishness wrong, and that's what you can say about it. "It counts for 2" is one of the stupidest things I've seen in this entire thread yet, and we have Vivax playing so that's saying something.
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On March 17 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two. Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2? What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole? You forced the issue, we both know it. You pushed so hard and screamed so loudly that we either had to for vote you or foolishness and everything else got crushed under the weight of all that noise. Everyone came down on my side supersoft the confirmed town who isn't weak and caves to noone came down on my side after rereading both our filters don't try and bullshit and say "it counts for 2". that's just you inflating things for absolutely no reason. Pretty scummy I would say. I got Foolishness wrong, and that's what you can say about it. "It counts for 2" is one of the stupidest things I've seen in this entire thread yet, and we have Vivax playing so that's saying something.
Lol another throwaway remark responding to nothing meaning nothing makes me scum because you don't like it. The damage from getting foolishness wrong was enlarged because of the way that it dominated all of day 2 and lots of people listened to you because of your rep. I know I did.
Anyway this is counter productive and I refuse to shit up the thread today as well. We are not going to agree.
##Vote: Marvellosity
Oats I'll read sloosh's filter later tonight after I spend some time on my other game.
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On March 17 2013 21:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two. Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2? What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole? You forced the issue, we both know it. You pushed so hard and screamed so loudly that we either had to for vote you or foolishness and everything else got crushed under the weight of all that noise. Everyone came down on my side supersoft the confirmed town who isn't weak and caves to noone came down on my side after rereading both our filters don't try and bullshit and say "it counts for 2". that's just you inflating things for absolutely no reason. Pretty scummy I would say. I got Foolishness wrong, and that's what you can say about it. "It counts for 2" is one of the stupidest things I've seen in this entire thread yet, and we have Vivax playing so that's saying something. Lol another throwaway remark responding to nothing meaning nothing makes me scum because you don't like it. The damage from getting foolishness wrong was enlarged because of the way that it dominated all of day 2 and lots of people listened to you because of your rep. I know I did.Anyway this is counter productive and I refuse to shit up the thread today as well. We are not going to agree. ##Vote: Marvellosity Oats I'll read sloosh's filter later tonight after I spend some time on my other game.
I thought the cop check that you never mentioned and somehow you didn't know was unreliable was why you voted Fool.
My mistake......
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Acro, I'd prefer to kill one of DP or slOosh. slOosh has no satisfactory reply to this, rather saying he'd prefer to not argue with the guy who he wants to lynch.
On March 17 2013 02:02 marvellosity wrote: Here's how it is slOosh.
supersoft, Dandel, Promethelax, iamperfection, strongandbig and whoever else I'm forgetting believed Foolish to be certain mafia.
You said you went back and reread what I wrote and agreed with what I wrote about Foolish, and agreed with what I said about Corazon.
And you're calling me mafia.
Is this about right?
Unfortunately for him everything in this post is 100% correct.
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On March 17 2013 21:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:21 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two. Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2? What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole? You forced the issue, we both know it. You pushed so hard and screamed so loudly that we either had to for vote you or foolishness and everything else got crushed under the weight of all that noise. Everyone came down on my side supersoft the confirmed town who isn't weak and caves to noone came down on my side after rereading both our filters don't try and bullshit and say "it counts for 2". that's just you inflating things for absolutely no reason. Pretty scummy I would say. I got Foolishness wrong, and that's what you can say about it. "It counts for 2" is one of the stupidest things I've seen in this entire thread yet, and we have Vivax playing so that's saying something. Lol another throwaway remark responding to nothing meaning nothing makes me scum because you don't like it. The damage from getting foolishness wrong was enlarged because of the way that it dominated all of day 2 and lots of people listened to you because of your rep. I know I did.Anyway this is counter productive and I refuse to shit up the thread today as well. We are not going to agree. ##Vote: Marvellosity Oats I'll read sloosh's filter later tonight after I spend some time on my other game. I thought the cop check that you never mentioned and somehow you didn't know was unreliable was why you voted Fool. My mistake......
And when I found out it was completely useless I sheeped you because you are you. You know that because it is in my filter which you have read. Stop making things seem to be something they are not. Actually forget it. This is pointless and I refuse to engage with your blatantly misleading one liners.
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On March 17 2013 21:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:26 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:21 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:12 marvellosity wrote:On March 17 2013 21:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: P.S. I have not been wrong 'multiple' times, I was wrong (in a major fashion) once. I was right about Corazon, I was right about bugs not being town, I was right with all my townreads so far. You are wrong about me, who the fuck knows about cora. and getting foolishness that spectacularly wrong counts for two. Getting a player wrong THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON counts for 2? What is this fucking ridiculous hyperbole? You forced the issue, we both know it. You pushed so hard and screamed so loudly that we either had to for vote you or foolishness and everything else got crushed under the weight of all that noise. Everyone came down on my side supersoft the confirmed town who isn't weak and caves to noone came down on my side after rereading both our filters don't try and bullshit and say "it counts for 2". that's just you inflating things for absolutely no reason. Pretty scummy I would say. I got Foolishness wrong, and that's what you can say about it. "It counts for 2" is one of the stupidest things I've seen in this entire thread yet, and we have Vivax playing so that's saying something. Lol another throwaway remark responding to nothing meaning nothing makes me scum because you don't like it. The damage from getting foolishness wrong was enlarged because of the way that it dominated all of day 2 and lots of people listened to you because of your rep. I know I did.Anyway this is counter productive and I refuse to shit up the thread today as well. We are not going to agree. ##Vote: Marvellosity Oats I'll read sloosh's filter later tonight after I spend some time on my other game. I thought the cop check that you never mentioned and somehow you didn't know was unreliable was why you voted Fool. My mistake...... And when I found out it was completely useless I sheeped you because you are you. You know that because it is in my filter which you have read. Stop making things seem to be something they are not. Actually forget it. This is pointless and I refuse to engage with your blatantly misleading one liners.
Yes, you very specifically said you were sheeping marv.
You didn't say you were sheeping marv's cop check, oh no. Only me.
Somehow you manage to never mention the cop check, which is why you were so convinced to vote Foolishness. Somehow you just never mentioned it... all you mention is that you're reading the cases, that you're sheeping me... but you're never citing the cop check. Funny.
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DarthPunk's claim on why he voted for Foolishness is this:
On March 16 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 23:56 marvellosity wrote: Just to make it clear in 2 bullet points
- yesterday DP read the posts on Foolish and found them so convincing that it was so easy to vote for him - today he finds them as enlightening as a quagmire
No. If you want the truth. The reason it was so easy is because the opposing cop checked was mentioned in something I read. And I did not yet know that you had to declare it until I read through a heap more things. I had been in the game 3 hours at that point but when someone says opposing cop checks and you are town it suddenly becomes really easy.
I invite you, the reader, to look at his filter and decide for yourself if this is the case. I will provide below what I believe to be the relevant quotes, but if you believe me to be evil twisty mafia, I encourage you to check for yourself.
On March 15 2013 01:43 DarthPunk wrote: Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal?
On March 15 2013 01:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:On March 15 2013 01:43 DarthPunk wrote: Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal? The case on Foolish as it stands is littered across all my posts, and Hiro's posts, in the thread. Foolish's main post is about page 131. My rebuttal to half of it is a few pages ago. Thanks!
On March 15 2013 01:56 DarthPunk wrote: That was really easy once I found the relevant posts.
##Vote: Foolishness
Note well here. Relevant posts, plural. One would think a cop check was only one post or mention. Heyo.
On March 15 2013 11:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 11:05 Vivax wrote:On March 15 2013 11:02 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I actually have to agree with VIVAX on it being doubtful that corazon would try and kill himself as scum day 2. Not only is that against every instinct you have as scum. which is generally SURVIVE! SURVIVE! But I am sure his scummer friends would have something to say about him being suicidal.
The timing to say this is pretty scummy given you've almost not been pushing anything this day. The timing to say this is scummy if Cora flips town, that is. Regardless of the timing, It is true. As for not pushing anything, well I have only read 52 pages of a 160+ plus game I am not nearly up to speed. There is an almost certain lynch on foolishness that I am pretty much sheeping marv on while I catch up so I don't see the value in pushing anything whilst I am as ill informed as I am currently and certainly don't feel the need to do so just to keep up appearances. That said if something so basic as the fact that scum don't generally try to kill themselves when, in fact, killing themselves is an antithesis to their very purpose in the game comes along; I don't feel the need to not state my agreement with it simply because the circumstances of my arrival have prevented me from contributing much prior to that
On March 15 2013 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 11:07 Promethelax wrote:On March 15 2013 11:02 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I actually have to agree with VIVAX on it being doubtful that corazon would try and kill himself as scum day 2. Not only is that against every instinct you have as scum. which is generally SURVIVE! SURVIVE! But I am sure his scummer friends would have something to say about him being suicidal.
Hey oldest friend who I've missed This post is shit You add nothing at all To the Marv/fool brawl Could you give me a read list? I think yamato is town. I think marv is probably town and I am sheeping marv while I catch up.
If any of you can find a shred of evidence in any of this that DP was voting for Foolish because of the check like he claimed, I'm all ears.
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For those of you who believe I'm town - Vivax is probably the lynch you can be least sure about, just because of how nuts he is. I still think he's mafia but meh.
Look at what DP is saying about his vote for Fool, look at slOosh's reasons to vote for me, hell look at Crossfire, but I don't think Vivax is the strongest lynch today.
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